just give us sp content already

[D3ADSH0T]

For me, 20 something more missions, 4 of them could be detailed heists. New mini-games and features, new strangers and freaks, random events and clothing options and new properties and garages would be a dream come true for me at this point. A man can dream.

[NDH92]

What I found most interesting reading those employee reviews, was the suggestion the proper work on these games starts in the last 12 to 18 months. So if that applied to GTA V, presumably the next GTA could come out within three years, which used to be Rockstar's timeframe for the 3D era games.

 

Regarding online that is going to be a part of games going forward but single player isn't in any danger. Games like GTA, EA are designed to be single player primarily but also online. Online is designed to add an extra element it's not the 'game'.

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

 

 

Just because you enjoy online gaming doesn't give you the right to try and force that aggressive opinion onto others.

Lol?

 

More and more games are going Online.

 

Streaming is getting really popular, with programs such as EA Access and Playstation Now(?).

 

CoD is one of the most popular game franchises currently because of its online. Same goes for Battlefield.

 

Franchises that have always been SP are going Online.

 

We have the supposed Cloud that will help with games.

 

Online is the future. Whether or not you like that is irrelevant.

 

Osho: Yes, Skyrim was great. Yes, it was SP. I'm not saying that SP is dead.

 

However, what I said above is completely true. I mean, even Elder Scrolls went Online, and Fallout was going to.

 

Online is the future. You can love it. You can hate it. That doesn't change the outcome.

 

Like I said, I'm just saying how it is.

 

Lolwut? Online is the future? Sorry mate, SP isn't going anywhere. AFAIK most people would complete the main story/campaign before they started to play online (not counting MP-only games like TF2 or Elder Scrolls Online, or MP-oriented games like Minecraft or Battlefield).

 

Even though not everyone finished IV's story, most IV players DO actually finished the story.

I never said SP was going anywhere. I said Online play was the future.

 

Are you denying that?

[Lethal Vaccine]

 

 

If you find SP only gaming as "great" gaming, you better raise the white flag. Online is where it's at. There's even an Elder Scrolls Online.

 

Either adapt or 'die'.

 

 

 

Then my gaming dies. I will stick to my older games that I really enjoyed. It's as simple as that.

 

 

That's like how I feel. Tbh, it's almost a chore going for 100% with perfect stats. Do you guys think I live for this? If GTA turns to sh*t, or Rockstar all together, then yeah...My gaming dies. What do I care, I work too many hours anyways and only have time 2 days a week for a few hours to game. I am not obsessed and need gaming in my life. It's only a hobby and if Rockstar/GTA dies (in my eyes) then so be it, I honestly could careless. The older games will always be the best for me, and nobody will ever take them away from me and luckily there isn't all these lame updates for those games.

[Geeteeaifive]

Wait for pc and console release. Don't you get it old consoles are not worth their time, they'll roll out the big stuff on PC.

 

Same here, it's been a while since i played a multiplayer game that forces you to grind endlessly. Now i stick to fast fun. Sp games or dota.

Edited August 25, 2014 by Geeteeaifive

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

 

I'm not saying that SP is dead. However, what I said above is completely true. I mean, even Elder Scrolls went Online, and Fallout was going to. Online is the future. You can love it. You can hate it. That doesn't change the outcome.

Like I said, I'm just saying how it is.

I'm not denying the online's increasing popularity, and the business side.

But, SP faces a great threat of gradually losing the appeal, as seen with the prev. games, in the long run, if online continues to be stronger.

Shorter story, limited content, decreasing challenge and other decisions benefiting online, etc. are couple of things that come to mind right off the top of my head.

But, you will get the idea about my point of concern.

 

That only depends on the developers. Rockstar realises that if they don't deliver on the single player and dumb it way down, people will start going against them. It's just that GTAO has a LOT of potential right now and they are focusing more on that due to lots of problems occuring both minor and major, while SP doesn't have substantial issues. They will eventually be focusing on that again anyway.

 

And let's be honest here, if the only thing GTA offered was SP and people got bored of it, and there was no online mode, you know what would happen, right? That's right. They would obviously sell it, or give it to someone or something. Online fills that void. Only the proper greedy and lazy developers would use online to their advantage in the wrong way. Come back in abot 5 years time and say Rockstar haven't done anything for the community.

Edited August 25, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Lethal Vaccine]

And let's be honest here, if the only thing GTA offered was SP and people got bored of it

 

Then I must be the minority here as I can go back to GTA III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS, IV, TLaD, and TBoGT anytime, anyday. However, the newest, GTA V, with this Online mode (including SP mode), I am just bored of. But because I didn't play V since April, I am slowly getting the feeling back to play it.

 

Also, Rockstar were doing SP only for a good decade+. I don't see how if they continued to do that, it'd hurt the GTA games? It grew this big off SP, not Online. Online might make them money in 2013-14, but they didn't need that in 2001 (GTA III) through 2006-7 (VCS). Funny thing is, these are my favorite games. I like IV a lot + Episodes but this is where they started to slowly dumb down the games and make them easier. The only thing I see as to why the games got more casual, is the introduction to Online. It can't be a coincidence.

Edited August 25, 2014 by Militia

[Geralt of Rivia]

They didn't need Online back then because Online wasn't big back then.

 

Times have changed. People have changed.

 

There's an Elder Scrolls Online. There was going to be a Fallout Online. Call of Duty is big for its multiplayer only. Same with Battlefield.

 

The most played games currently on Steam? I bet that more than half of the top 10 are Online only or played mostly for its online. Same for Xbox Live.

[fac316]

right now there isn't much to do in story mode and while it is the single player portion, being called a story mode tells you that rockstar's main focus was the story but they forgot to include the usual bulk of side content that keeps you occupied in the years to come.

 

I was able to play gta 3 all the way to vice city than on to san andreas and played it up to gta iv and iv kept me busy until v, wasn't a couple weeks after beating story mode that i started to become bored with it. A couple of weeks compared to a play cycle of between two to four years for each gta game, v couldn't get the job done for some bizarre reason, it's unlike grand theft auto to be a short and terrible experience.

Same, I played IV and EFLC for the entire 5 years, I can't even go thru the loading screen w/o rolling my eyes. Sometimes as soon as the super police are alerted even @ a star I just don't even have the motivation to outrun them.

[Officer Ronson]

@Militia

 

You don't have to name every single GTA game you have played, that honestly makes it seem like you have little to no life or too much spare time.

 

 

[Lethal Vaccine]

They didn't need Online back then because Online wasn't big back then.

 

Times have changed. People have changed.

 

There's an Elder Scrolls Online. There was going to be a Fallout Online. Call of Duty is big for its multiplayer only. Same with Battlefield.

 

The most played games currently on Steam? I bet that more than half of the top 10 are Online only or played mostly for its online. Same for Xbox Live.

 

I don't even know what Elder Scrolls is. This is how little I game, and this is why I could careless if GTA went downhill. I simply, like OG said, would stop gaming and my gaming would die. No big deal, literally.

 

Tbh, if you took a poll of Online gamers the ladder would be middle school through high school with a handful of college kids thrown in the mix. I don't want to really associate with kids who are 10 years younger than me or anything. Too much energy and too chaotic for me. This is one big reason I never got into Online. I can't be bothered with dealing with people, tbh. I buy a game for me to play, I don't buy a game to play with others, unless it's a classic like Mario Party and Mario Kart N64, etc...But how did you play with others back then? Oh yeah, they came over to your house. This virtual Online stuff is just lame. Call me old fashion, I could careless. I am only 25, but I do NOT want to have anything to do with all this crap.

 

Same goes for music. I listen to 80's music. I don't care to follow the crowd and the trends of today's standards. I do my own thing and it doesn't involve catering to anybody but myself.

 

@Militia

 

You don't have to name every single GTA game you have played, that honestly makes it seem like you have little to no life or too much spare time.

 

I did have spare time. Graduated in August 2013. Found job in July 2014, and started working for said job in August 2014. So I didn't do anything for an entire year besides relax and play games when I felt like it. A big portion went to playing V as well, but I got out of that in April 2014, basically and haven't gone back since. Plus, my playing time in all those games (besides IV) is 23-25 hours. One day. Sound like I am playing it too much? No, I just know how to budget my time and work toward my goal without getting side tracked like so many people do in these games. I set small goals each day and do said goals, same with anything in life for that matter. Maybe you're bad with time management skills...

 

Also, what gives if I name all of them I played? Did they come out yesterday? No, they were spaced out since 2001, when I bought GTA III, through 2013, when I bought V...Once you get to 100% once, the second time and any more times becomes easier. But who knows, maybe 100% isn't your thing and maybe you buy these games just to get sight seeing like Kevin de Santa, lol

Edited August 25, 2014 by Militia

[oRNoKrazK1ipz]

At first I used to laugh at all your post Militia.Naming all the GTAs all the time.But you earned some respect with this post you made..

 

 

They didn't need Online back then because Online wasn't big back then.

 

Times have changed. People have changed.

 

There's an Elder Scrolls Online. There was going to be a Fallout Online. Call of Duty is big for its multiplayer only. Same with Battlefield.

 

The most played games currently on Steam? I bet that more than half of the top 10 are Online only or played mostly for its online. Same for Xbox Live.

I don't even know what Elder Scrolls is. This is how little I game, and this is why I could careless if GTA went downhill. I simply, like OG said, would stop gaming and my gaming would die. No big deal, literally.

 

Tbh, if you took a poll of Online gamers the ladder would be middle school through high school with a handful of college kids thrown in the mix. I don't want to really associate with kids who are 10 years younger than me or anything. Too much energy and too chaotic for me. This is one big reason I never got into Online. I can't be bothered with dealing with people, tbh. I buy a game for me to play, I don't buy a game to play with others, unless it's a classic like Mario Party and Mario Kart N64, etc...But how did you play with others back then? Oh yeah, they came over to your house. This virtual Online stuff is just lame. Call me old fashion, I could careless. I am only 25, but I do NOT want to have anything to do with all this crap.

 

Same goes for music. I listen to 80's music. I don't care to follow the crowd and the trends of today's standards. I do my own thing and it doesn't involve catering to anybody but myself.

 

 

@Militia

 

You don't have to name every single GTA game you have played, that honestly makes it seem like you have little to no life or too much spare time.

 

 

I did have spare time. Graduated in August 2013. Found job in July 2014, and started working for said job in August 2014. So I didn't do anything for an entire year besides relax and play games when I felt like it. A big portion went to playing V as well, but I got out of that in April 2014, basically and haven't gone back since. Plus, my playing time in all those games (besides IV) is 23-25 hours. One day. Sound like I am playing it too much? No, I just know how to budget my time and work toward my goal without getting side tracked like so many people do in these games. I set small goals each day and do said goals, same with anything in life for that matter.

[Geralt of Rivia]

The Elder Scrolls is a franchise that has always been SP only, and has had massive maps with tons to do. It is an RPG.

[Lethal Vaccine]

The Elder Scrolls is a franchise that has always been SP only, and has had massive maps with tons to do. It is an RPG.

 

RPG? Rocket Propelled Grenade? Rocket Launcher?

 

I literally don't know anything about gaming. I am on a GTA Forum...Well cuz I like GTA. I've said in other threads across PS1, 2, and 3, I own 20 games and 9 of them are GTA. The other 11 are Tony Hawk and sh*t like that, really old stuff I was into in middle school and high school but never bothered to sell them. I only have 5 PS3 games (GTA IV, TLaD, TBoGT, V, and some Metal Gear Solid 4 game that came with my PS3 when I bought it, granted, I never played it) and had PS3 since 2008.

[GTA V Is On PC]

Grand Theft Auto just doesn't seem like an online franchise for me. I would rather do crimes and fight cops without some 10 year old kid with a pink Adder throwing sticky bombs out the window.

Edited August 25, 2014 by GtaV Is Coming To Pc

[Geralt of Rivia]

Role playing game lol

[Official General]

Just because you enjoy online gaming doesn't give you the right to try and force that aggressive opinion onto others.

 

Well said

[Geralt of Rivia]

Except it's not an opinion. It's reality.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

It's sad to see the downfall of gaming coming. Online is great and all but when SP is no longer the center of attention, things get shabby. At least this is happening around when I'll become too busy with work to play games that much.

[Official General]

Except it's not an opinion. It's reality.

 

Yeah we all know that. We don't need you to tell us this, or give us a sermon on the future of gaming. The whole point of talking about online gaming was about how many people feel it's been detrimental to the SP experience of V.

 

Save your boring lectures for another thread more relevant.

Edited August 25, 2014 by Official General

[Lethal Vaccine]

It's sad to see the downfall of gaming coming. Online is great and all but when SP is no longer the center of attention, things get shabby. At least this is happening around when I'll become too busy with work to play games that much.

 

Exactly. That is how I am. My life has just begun with 40+ hours a week at work and while working, exercising, and sleeping, there literally is no time to game anymore, anyways. The only time I get time is weekends and that is IF and ONLY IF I don't have to work. My job does a lot of traveling but has amazing benefits and pay, so I rather get payed then play video games, lol...

 

This is also why in my years time off from college until now, I trucked through all 8 games, 9 being GTA V, to 100% with best stats, and a proof/unique vehicle collection. I had the time and know how to budget time, as I knew once I started working, my life with gaming would basically be over. I am getting too old for it anyways. Can't even sit longer than a couple hours anyways haha

[Official General]

 

It's sad to see the downfall of gaming coming. Online is great and all but when SP is no longer the center of attention, things get shabby. At least this is happening around when I'll become too busy with work to play games that much.

 

Exactly. That is how I am. My life has just begun with 40+ hours a week at work and while working, exercising, and sleeping, there literally is no time to game anymore, anyways. The only time I get time is weekends and that is IF and ONLY IF I don't have to work. My job does a lot of traveling but has amazing benefits and pay, so I rather get payed then play video games, lol...

 

This is also why in my years time off from college until now, I trucked through all 8 games, 9 being GTA V, to 100% with best stats, and a proof/unique vehicle collection. I had the time and know how to budget time, as I knew once I started working, my life with gaming would basically be over. I am getting too old for it anyways. Can't even sit longer than a couple hours anyways haha

 

 

I'm going through a similar thing myself. These days, I only make time for games that offer me the ultimate SP experience. GTA used to be the epitome of that, but with V that seems to have gone out the window. If GTA continues like how V has, then yeah I see a downfall of GTA gaming.

[CarlitoDorito]

It'll come eventually, probably bigger than most expect.

[woggleman]

I prefer SP myself but games not embracing online these days is like music not embracing digital downloads. If you don't keep up with the times you get left behind.

[josephene123]

I'm not really certain that online IS the future of gaming. I think the balance will remain how it is at the moment (not talking about GTA but the wider spectrum of gaming). People like it how it is. Games like fallout and the elder scrolls are franchises that need to stay sp orientated and we've seen that with how TESO didn't really take off all that well OR garner amazing reception, the SP counterparts DID. There are games which are much better online - COD, Battlefield, other FPS games and then there are games that I can't see ever being better online - TES, Fallout, and in my opinion GTA, and then there are even games that offer equally as satisfying experiences! FIFA, Strategy games like Total War, and even The Last of Us. There will always be a strong demand for both and we have enough to go around right now for those different tastes. You just can't consistently craft great experiences for players in online while you can with single player.

Edited August 26, 2014 by josephene123

[Geralt of Rivia]

When I say Online is the future of gaming, I don't mean everything's only going to be Online and there will never be a SP.

 

What I mean is that Online will always be a component of games. Everything will revolve around being connected to each other. SP won't be gone, but it won't be the same.

 

Of course, this is a far ways away.

[Turkey Shenanigans]

Well, GTA is MAINLY SP. Multiplayer is like the 'side story'. But yes, I would like a SP DLC. Especially if it's in North Yankton.

 

If they did a DLC in North Yankton, it would be perfect.

Michael and Trevor already have snow jackets. Actually they both have 2. (You get a bunch of outfits after completing the main missions)

What they would do is make more 'wintery/snowy' clothes for all 3 protags, make snow versions of all the cars in the game (which some already have snow versions), new weapons, haircuts, interiors, radio stations, story line (which they said themselves that there will be a new storyline) and make Ludendorff bigger with a few other small towns around the area and one big town.

[Osho]

 

I'm not denying the online's increasing popularity, and the business side. But, SP faces a great threat of gradually losing the appeal, as seen with the prev. games, in the long run, if online continues to be stronger. Shorter story, limited content, decreasing challenge and other decisions benefiting online, etc. are couple of things that come to mind right off the top of my head. But, you will get the idea about my point of concern. 02

That only depends on the developers. Rockstar realises that if they don't deliver on the single player and dumb it way down, people will start going against them. It's just that GTAO has a LOT of potential right now and they are focusing more on that due to lots of problems occurring both minor and major, while SP doesn't have substantial issues. They will eventually be focusing on that again anyway.My thoughts exactly, and hope they do continue the efforts towards brilliant SP gaming too.

And let's be honest here, if the only thing GTA offered was SP and people got bored of it, and there was no online mode, you know what would happen, right? That's right. They would obviously sell it, or give it to someone or something. Online fills that void.

That's wrong! I suppose, Single-player always meant to be the strength of the video-games, that has the ability to expand creativity, produce satisfying moments from any particular direction ( free-roaming, completing missions, participate in side-activities, interacting with the surrounding, exploring the setting, roleplaying, etc. ) by using one's imagination. But today, it means getting along with the changing times of limited SP experience, and unlimited MP fun.

Because there's not enough content for single players' to be more creative, as the 3D titles offered without any unwanted restrictions, thus of course, game would become annoying and boring quickly.

It's the replay value, that makes or breaks the interest for me, along side the difficulty, in SP gaming.

That's the problem with V, it's a good single player, but probably not the best and greatest of all, to me.

 

So yeah, regardless of, an involving plot, mind-boggling detailed world, jaw-dropping graphics, and bigger maps, it is crucial to also balance the gameplay, with equally excellent amount of engaging challenges/activities fitting for the amazing world they offer, and that reward perseverance ...rather keep talking about creating your own fun online, that only rewards you nothing more than the rankings or money to survive. That's more boring for me.

 

Come back in about 5 years time and say Rockstar haven't done anything for the community.

Well, lets see!

[A.O.D.88]

So we know rockstar outright lied about flight school being for single-player as they moved it all to online. That probably means they're gonna make the assassination missions and the "big story DLC" online only too. Mark my words, they will announce that SP DLC has been cancelled and all its content has been transferred to online. That's probably what's causing the big delay for the dlc and why there has been no new info whatsoever for the PC and current gen versions.

Edited August 26, 2014 by A.O.D.88

[OGLuke]

rockstar f*cked themselves in a corner when they announced that story mode dlc would continue the adventures of the trio.

 

You can't say there won't be at least one episode of story dlc with micheal, trevor and franklin.. afterall they are the stars of single player.

 

The assassin dlc from the leaked missions sheet may be essential to the story seeing how franklin has worked for lester.

 

Rockstar would have a hard time gaining back fans trust if story mode dlc was a lie. I rather have zombie madness than nothing at all.

and another dead give away that story dlc is coming

 

next gen release