Is 1.16 a fail?

[am30]

Fail doesn't even begin to describe this update.

[GraniteDevil]

People just don't have anything better to do than hate on whatever.

 

I would only judge the update to be a fail if it did not deliver what it says it's going to deliver. So far, it has delivered exactly what it said it would.

 

I have experience no adverse effects.

Edited August 19, 2014 by GraniteDevil

[am30]

It's certainly not delivered on what it promised.

[Reemer]

Considering the only thing I bought was the Canada parachute bag, im gonna have to say it was a fail for me.

 

Also tried joining a quick job and just kept getting put into RR.

[Kampioen]

It's certainly not delivered on what it promised.

 

What else did it promise? I'm not very impressed, but I didn't expect anything more than this. The flight school was pretty good, probably just a one time thing for me but at least it's a nice change from the usual cars, clothes and masks updates.

[elfoam]

Did they fix the mission fail bugs in RR by the way?.

[HighwayPatrol]

The only thing good about it is the flight suit.

[LonerStoner97]

It wasn't a fail, it was just different from the other updates. This one was for the wanna be pilots.

[GrandMaster Smith]

Took them 2 months for this..?

 

1+ million for a reskinned jet that doesn't have guns, no new weapons, 1 new outfit.. 2 versions of the same exact car. Not to mention the issues of entire lobbies leaving, failing to find compatible rooms ect.. The hell have they been doing all this time?

[elfoam]

The biggest fail about it is the reintroduction of hard freezes.

[sultangris]

 

My problem with auto aim is the fact that its auto aim. Its fine for sp but for a multiplayer game its complete bs especially since people can lock on to you while your zooming by in a car or heli. Idc how easily i can rack up kills in auto aim its still lame. Also, its not that players realized auto aim is better bec free aim lobbies went from full to ghost towns right after beach bum and im sure alot players migrated over to auto bec its either that or play alone pretty much. I like more of a challenge, i play hc in fps no map or hud and free aim in this. I guess you could say i dont like playing with training wheels like the casuals, hence the reason auto aim is default for gta. When you feel like your ready to graduate and play with the big boys you change it to free aim.

 

 

LOL, when youre ready to graduate and play with the big boys you ask your mommy for about 3000$ and build yourself a gaming PC and youll never play a sh*t console game again except in the rare case that you like a game so much that you will go spend 500 to play it on a console while you wait for it to be released on the PC where it will be 1000X better with fully customizable controls, more features, more players per session, and literally pretty much everything about it is better as long as they dont half ass it. GTA is the only reason I have a console and its mostly a blueray player to me.

 

You are kinda partially right though, auto aim is pretty lame when it comes to PVP combat games but you gotta understand GTA is a single player game and they are trying to convert it to something way different than GTA 4 was to be something more like World of Warcraft online or similar to that type of game with intended continual support and new content regularly to keep people playing. They totally botched this attempted switchover however by not really ever providing any instructions or announcements explaining how they were changing it so most players do not understand what rockstar was trying to accomplish/create with this game. rockstar didnt intend for free mode to be a deathmatch, thats why there are deathmatches and thats why the autoaim system targets like it does and they wont fix it. I expect the next version to be a little different and they better pick one way or the other, cause what we got here is a complete disaster as far as what it could/should be with a half and half sh*tfest going on. Do you know why consoles have auto aim in the first place? Cause their controls suck major asscrack compared to a PC, there is no auto aim on PC games. You dont need it, you have 1000X better controls

Most players are stuck thinking with the GTA 4 online mentality and trying to play this game that way cause probably half or more of console players are little kids and stoners who arent so quick with the brainpower anymore and they didnt notice that when you die in free mode when the game was first released it cost you a considerable amount of money and you respawned so close to your killer that half the time they would kill you repeatedly as soon as you spawn before you even can move yet which it totally retarded and no good competitive game would do such a stupid thing giving one player a major advantage over the other. Plus the before they added passive mode which didnt exist at first you could actually get stuck in this loop and the only way to exit the game was pull your internet or power off your console cause you cant access any menus when dead and it took too long to get to the quit/leave option and it reset every time you died and it was pretty well impossible if some asshat kept spawnraping you and it was a complete sh*t show, lol! Not to mention the fact that if you were killing each other sh*ttons of police show up and you get killed by the cops about 10X as much as you get killed by the other players and if you blew up i think it was 3 players cars or mabye 5 you got sent to the bad sport pool and couldnt play with your friends anymore and the time doubled each time you got sent back so you were just losing money so fast and either letting people in cars get free kills or getting sent to bad sport for weeks/ months to play with lots of griefers and some other players who were just trying to defend themselves. that maybe perhaps wasnt something you wanted to be doing very often, maybe play deathmatches where you actually make money instead of lose it and there are no f*cking insane cops f*cking with you constantly and you didnt become unable to play with your friends?!?!

 

But no, partially cause rockstar released such a buggy beta version full of exploits that made it really easy and simple to glitch money way faster than earning it legit cause they had the economy balance so far out of wack it took forever to earn money legit with everything costing a small fortune so most everyone was glitching money and had lots or could get it quick so they didnt care too much about losing 5K or more every 2 minutes when the the cops smoked them, they liked and wanted gta4 style. Those not cheating complained about it and rockstar caved and did change it greatly so you hardly drop much money now and you can blow up lots of players cars before getting in the BS pool instead of explaining their intent or banning the cheaters eliminating the problem. However they didnt really fully change it enough to be like gta4 and thats why it still f*cking sucks so bad, half cause its not being played right and half cause they wont force people to play it right and actually made it easier to play wrong and wont fully change it over to gta 4 style and give options to have no cops and stuff like that but fortunately the ps3 is so slow and sh*tty that when you get a few people going at it the computing power is so maxed out that the cops quit spawning anyway, but unfortunately so does every other npc car and that kinda sucks, lol!

 

Thats why auto aim is totally f*cked up in this game and actually more challenging than free aim because it targets npcs, cops, and even other players who are farther away from your crosshair than the one you are trying to target plus knowing when to combat roll to break locks and knowing different weapons autoaim ranges and when its better to use which one. having to watch your map constantly and not drive by players who can autolock you out of your car and watching for the ones trying to run you over so you can do that to them instead of becoming roadkill and a few other things/situations that are much different and not the same in free aim and that really makes it harder with more stuff you gotta know and watch out for than free aim if you wanna consistently come out on top. Ive been playing since release and they havent added anything new really thats fun for more than 10 seconds and I really enjoy the PVP even though its full of flaws and unfair sh*t that goes both ways but i really hope they get it fixed and more fair and competitive next version cause there is lots of potential with this game.

 

If you have any doubt in your mind im sure you know or could find someone with battlefield 4 who plays on a ps3 and someone who plays on a properly speced gaming PC and if you go watch them or play them both you will quickly see how much better the PC version is. The console version is like literally half the game in that case, lol! different games vary depending on how they make them and what they make them for first, sometimes they half ass the other platform and its not as good as it couldve been even on the console side, but overall there is no question, no comparison, no argument to be had, PC is undeniably the champion and anyone who attempts to claim otherwise is a dimwitted oaf that doesnt have a clue what hes talking about. A console is just a cheaper less powerful version of a PC in reality.

 

The ps4 looks like it is gonna be eons better than ps3 but the controls still suck ass and when you play a game like this or battlefield 4 where you need to be constantly using and doing many different things you qill quickly figure out why a keyboard/mouse combo is 1000X faster and better than a sh*t console controller where you have 2 thumbs to operate 10 buttons and not enough buttons for all the features so you have sh*tty menus and button combos you gotta press that slow you down when youre already slowed down cause you only have 2 fingers for 10 buttons so you have to stop doing things in order to do the other things and half youre controls dont work when the menu is up so youre very vulnerable an easy to kill. with a keyboard and a mouse that has 9 buttons, 2of which can scroll through different preset sensitivity levels so for games like GTA5 on console which arent optimized for competitive gameplay where you only have one sensitivity setting instead of like battlefield 4 on the PC where you can a sensitivity setting for everything that is different like sniping long range, land vehicles, water vehicles, air vehicles and so on. you get the idea? you can actually have 5 and then you can be good at sniping and good at catching up to and killing close targets simply by pressing a button to change the sensitivity to optimal for the task you need. This isnt possible on a console, you have to pick one or the other or compromise and be handicap at everything. Then you dont need those stupid menus for the other functions that disable half your normal buttons functions because you have more buttons and more fingers that can operate them quicker and more efficiently and in these types of games milliseconds count. If you could play cross platform barely average PC players would dominate the best console players in the world simply due to the better controls being that much more effective and fast and fine tune customized however you want.

 

One thing i hate about console is that you cant fine tune those sensitivities and you never know what the other guys set for but usually most players go for the up close weapons and they suck at sniping, im a little more set slower to get the headshot sniping but this puts me at a disadvantage up close and I die way more often than i would if it was on a computer with good controls and sensitivity adjustment and I dont like dying for stupid preventable reasons like that when im used to winning. If i got the other way then the snipers get me first so either way youre boned, you gotta pick a happy medium and hope you arnt too handicap at one or both ranges, its to hard to quickly change the sensitivity and for some reason in this game when you press the start button sometimes the damn menu wont even show up or it takes forever, totally dumb problem that PC doesnt have.

 

Some simple games that dont require many buttons or ones where speed of having to stop doing something in order to start digging through menus to get to the function you want arent so critical are great on a console, but ones where speed/accuracy are essential and there arent enough buttons to do important things you need to do in order to be competitive are not good on a console. They are ok for your average player or a little kid who doesnt know any better or care too much about getting seriously into competitive gaming but anyone who does will not be playing on a console. I hope that makes sense and I hope you learned something cause that took me a couple hours to write and I was multitasking.

[Skylan]

There's nothing inherently wrong with "cosmetic" updates. I don't mind getting a few new vehicles and weapons here and here. But ALL the updates so far has been cosmetic, and that's the problem.

 

For starters, I don't understand why they bother to add more helicopters and planes that have no guns. There's nothing wrong with an unarmed aircraft, but the problem is nobody is going to be using them when you have the buzzard and the lazer as alternatives. Are you seriously going to call a frogger for transport when you can call the buzzard which is not only faster, but is also weaponized? On the same coin, why would you pay 1.5 million for a frogger (or any helicopter that isn't the buzzard) in the first place, when .25 million more will get you the buzzard which, as I've just mentioned, is weaponized? And even on the remote chance that you DO need a non-weaponized helicopter for something, you can just call one from Lester. The same thing applies to planes, albeit not as strongly, since you have to actually steal the only weaponized plane, but even that's too easy now, not to mention the only safe option, since flying in anything that isn't the lazer is guaranteed death at the hands of a player that is flying it...

 

Solution: Make a class system. Planes, for example. Keep the lazer mostly as it is, but give it incendiary rounds instead of explosive cannons. And the new training jet we got - if you're not gonna give it weapons, then make it faster than the lazer, and make it a 'stealth' aircraft. The higher your stealth stat, the closer someone has to be in order to see you on the minimap, and a full stealth stat makes the training jet immune to being locked-on by missiles. Civilian aircraft on the other hand (frogger, duster, shamal, etc.), have no defenses, but give you 5 stars if you attack them which don't go away until you are shot down(No Lester). This way, there would actually be a reason to use the training jet over the lazer, the stealth stat would become relevant, and lazer griefers might actually think twice about randomly shooting you down, not to mention incendiary rounds wouldn't immediately kill you, they'd just set your vehicle on fire, giving you time to bail, etc. Also, add the skimmer.

 

Helicopters on the other hand, just need more variety. Do we really need the Helo Helicopter when we already have the maverick, frogger, and all their variations? They're the exact same thing, re-skinned to look different, and maybe some are faster or more maneuverable than the others, but that buzzard over there is faster and has missiles! The only other weaponized helicopter is slower than a snail and has miniguns that are too weak and unwieldy to be of any practical use. Now, I DO know that a skilled pilot using machine guns WILL beat a missile-toting noob most of the time, but that skill is worth sh*t against the cannon-using-lazer-griefer noob coming your way.

 

Apply the same civilian aircraft rule to helicopters. Attacking a non-weaponized helicopter gives you 5 stars that don't go away until you are shot down. Furthermore, give existing aircraft some special abilities. Keep the buzzard mostly as it is, but make it slower and give passengers aiming controls over the machine guns. Make the Annihilator slightly faster and give it incendiary rounds (but no passenger control). Either add the Sea Sparrow from previous games, or give one of the civilian helicopters the ability to land in water. The cargobob already has a special function and is fine as is.

 

Really, the possibilities are endless. Rockstar could do SO MUCH with their vehicles, but they either choose not to, or can't, because of all the modders. I didn't even talk about weapons, but those need an overhaul as well. The game is called Grand Theft Auto Online, but there are very little Online-game-ish things about it. The leveling system is the only thing I can think of. There is no balance, no class systems....

 

This turned out to be a longer rant than I planned, and I wanted to make a thread about it instead, but I know wannabe modders and trolls will just re-direct me to the b&m thread or whatever (and attract trolls), so here.

[5.7]

Failed before it was actually released

[StangOne50]

Huge flop. Would like to have seen a poll added to this thread. Would have been happy if it was nothing more than a 3rd garage or a new gun that isnt a damn rifle. Planes are useless to me as well as the flight suit. If i want to fly a plane i can do so in single player, brings nothing to mp free roam. One car no one asked for. Where is the dukes or uranus people been askin for months now. As i said before a complete joke of an update

[sultangris]

lol, i think we are on the same page but i know the reasons, read my rant above,

Edited August 19, 2014 by sultangris

[JON22]

It succeeded. Lol at all the butthurt speculation fails and false (other than flight school) rumours to pull youtube views. R* troll win. I heard San Andreas has a hydra

[The Angel King]

Logged on for 10 mins, saw the vehicles I won't buy, and logged off. Not even any new clothes(female) or guns. I thought I saw a lot of camo gear in the video of this update.....

 

O well. I shelved the game. Nothing more to do.

[Not A Nice Person]

R* took 1 and a half monthes for this, The trailer seemed awesome but the actually content was lackluster, 1 and a half monthes for a non-combat jet, Reskinned Titan, And a sh*tty helicopter? The patch was great but with these halfassed content prices, I'm guessing R* is really saying "Guys we're lazy but we need money please buy Kesh Kurds

Why would they put clothes we didn't even have access to in the trailer, Nontheless NPC models and jet smoke

Sad thing is there's competition in the next weeks and they aren't even trying at this point.

[Hylskriksen]

New things cost sh*tloads. Still nerfing missions.

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Edited August 19, 2014 by morrami2000

[Curtis]

>Promised Singleplayer additions to the flight school

>Don't make me laugh

[The Angel King]

R* took 1 and a half monthes for this, The trailer seemed awesome but the actually content was lackluster, 1 and a half monthes for a non-combat jet, Reskinned Titan, And a sh*tty helicopter? The patch was great but with these halfassed content prices, I'm guessing R* is really saying "Guys we're lazy but we need money please buy Kesh Kurds

Why would they put clothes we didn't even have access to in the trailer, Nontheless NPC models and jet smoke

Took 1 and a half months to release something they already made over a year ago.... the trailer was also prob made then too. That is why it shows things we don't have. Just my 2 cents though.

[NeonBlade]

A magnanimous failure, but they had to get something out, sadly it was this.

[Stringer Bell]

eh i knew this update would be lame......flight school is nothing but frustration (always is)

 

also the classic coquette is a sports classic...all the sports classics have crappy handling (especially in rain) and high prices

 

of course the aircrafts were gonna be expensive

 

the flag parachutes are pretty cool ive been wanting a new chute for awhile

Edited August 19, 2014 by Poohdini

[lazyassedlover]

you get free content and its a flop/fail?

 

Im happy with anything new, some people just cannot be satisfied

[Sir Michael]

This flight school should have came with the game to begin with. Lol, but nonetheless, I had more fun with this than the SP version... it really tested my flying.

 

Benefits of having two characters: each one of them has to complete flying school. $234k per character = MULA.

 

Content-wise, I'm iffy bout it. Patch-wise, they f*cked up at trying to fixing the game. Matchmaking is still dodgy, mission pay is all awkward, you get the idea.

Edited August 19, 2014 by SirMichaelRocks23

[Kampioen]

What happens if you do the flight school again? No money?

[Sir Michael]

What happens if you do the flight school again? No money?

 

You get money, but only enough to go to a store and buy a couple of clothes.

[Kampioen]

 

What happens if you do the flight school again? No money?

 

You get money, but only enough to go to a store and buy a couple of clothes.

 

 

Well, that can be a lot in this game.

 

What if you managed to get silver and go back for gold? Do you get paid the difference between silver and gold?

[Sir Michael]

 

 

What happens if you do the flight school again? No money?

 

You get money, but only enough to go to a store and buy a couple of clothes.

 

 

Well, that can be a lot in this game.

 

What if you managed to get silver and go back for gold? Do you get paid the difference between silver and gold?

 

 

Mhmm. Lol, I thought you meant replaying after getting the gold star. Yup, you'll get paid the difference.

[autobot_hotwire]

This right here is a perfect example of the stupid entitlement mentality of so many gamers today!! (Some corrections made for grammar.)

 

 

I can't even pass the catching the parachute one....I miss the maker by a few feet and I fail. You should get at least bronze for that.

No. No you should not get at least a bronze for failing the lesson! You failed. That's the point!

 

 

fail

fāl/

verb

verb: fail; 3rd person present: fails; past tense: failed; past participle: failed; gerund or present participle: failing

1.

be unsuccessful in achieving one's goal.

You don't get a reward for that! Rewards are for achieving goals and, if someone else does it better, than they get a better reward. If you can't deal with not getting a reward for not achieving your goal, you are in for one seriously disappointing life, kid!