Sergiu Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) I've been thinking about this and thought about asking you guys as well. Hearing more opinions on the matter would do good.As you may know, in the alpha of Grand Theft Auto 3 there were Zaibatsu posters as well as crates scattered all over Chinatown.Just like in Grand Theft Auto 2.Diablo turf tag found in GTA3's internal files.The alpha/beta Triads, they had quite an unusual attire. It would be likely that the Zaibatsus (gang) would've replaced the Triads at an early point. The alpha Triads would've made for some great Zaibatsu members based on their looks and clothing.Example of a Zaibatsu pharma crate. All piled up with the radio commercial, it's very plausible. I'd appreciate some thoughts on this subject. Thank you. Edited April 25, 2015 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dope_0110 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 They probably started with a similar concept they had in 2, and carries over some or all of the gangs too, but as development went on they dropped things they didn't think would make sense in this new game, while introducing new ones, and so Zaibatsu and turf marking was removed among other things. Just an assumption which seems logical. They kept the game mechanic of getting points or money in III when you hit other cars, but by VC they removed it as they realized it doesn't fit in, and a few other things like that have happened in the franchise so that's the basis for my assumption above. Sergiu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I wouldn't mind them appearing again. Hell I dunno why they didn't appear in GTA 5. It would've given an amazing opportunity for some "social commentary" of big business. Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughtius Maximus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 They probably started with a similar concept they had in 2, and carries over some or all of the gangs too, but as development went on they dropped things they didn't think would make sense in this new game, while introducing new ones, and so Zaibatsu and turf marking was removed among other things. Just an assumption which seems logical. In some ways, I think this would be the spirit. Probably, with GTA III, they started with more fictional, more independent, %100 original stuff... I mean GTA 2 was like that, unlike III Era or HD Era, GTA 2 didn't rely on the real too much (at least with the minimum level they did). With III Era, GTA started to be more prone to real stuff, generally based on real things. I give this theory a possibility of being true, maybe later it's changed to put a way that is based on much more reality in the series. Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) They probably started with a similar concept they had in 2, and carries over some or all of the gangs too, but as development went on they dropped things they didn't think would make sense in this new game, while introducing new ones, and so Zaibatsu and turf marking was removed among other things. Just an assumption which seems logical. In some ways, I think this would be the spirit. Probably, with GTA III, they started with more fictional, more independent, %100 original stuff... I mean GTA 2 was like that, unlike III Era or HD Era, GTA 2 didn't rely on the real too much (at least with the minimum level they did). With III Era, GTA started to be more prone to real stuff, generally based on real things. I give this theory a possibility of being true, maybe later it's changed to put a way that is based on much more reality in the series. Yes, Grand Theft Auto 3 wasn't in its own universe when they've started working on it. Instead, it was more of a GTA 1/2 combination, only 3D. As a matter of fact, they've used GTA 1 radios (you can hear that in E3 gameplay videos) and GTA 2 game sounds as placeholders. I think Zs were, indeed, meant to return but, some people do not agree on this, that's why I've started this discussion. Just to see what most people think. Not to mention how much content was supposed to return, including cars, gangs, themes, etc. The design was certainly closer to the 2D games. Edited August 19, 2014 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Zaibatsu ain't got sh*t. #AMF4life Target13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Zaibatsu ain't got sh*t. #AMF4life And your point? This has nothing to do with the discussion. I've seen funnier trolls than you are. OT: Seems like it is quite agreed on. Zaibatsus might have returned in the alpha but later got scrapped. Edited August 19, 2014 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinx. Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 As Sergiu said, the game hadn't it's 3D universe. That means Z were different in the Alpha. They were not so powerful like in GTA 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvin Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Zaibatsu ain't got sh*t. Nipperkins pls. It would've been interesting for Z Corp to return and they probably would've, but R* most likely wanted to have it a bit more realistic and not have one company rule the world Zaibatsu does technically return too, but instead as a small mediocre company what sells pharmaceutical products. Edited August 19, 2014 by Kalvin Sergiu, Detective Phelps and Zello 3 Shine o' Vice | Vice City BETA Edition | Grand Theft Auto 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 As Sergiu said, the game hadn't it's 3D universe. That means Z were different in the Alpha. They were not so powerful like in GTA 2. Maybe because they weren't as big back in 2000? Maybe they were a minor pharmaceutical company with taste for gang war. Before becoming a corporation. I see that as possible. Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target13 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) If Zaibatsu returned in GTA 3, they will also most likely return in other GTA games such VC, SA and then later in IV & V with bigger roles. That would make them the Ultor of the GTA Universe. Edited August 19, 2014 by Target13Productions Sergiu and Voit Turyv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunkyBunch Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) they may bring them back i mean the Z - type was in V. (Their gang Car in 2) Edited August 19, 2014 by TheFunkyBunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 they may bring them back i mean the Z - type was in V. (Their gang Car in 2) It is just a reference. Seeing as the Zaibatsus aren't mentioned at all in the HD universe so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunkyBunch Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 they may bring them back i mean the Z - type was in V. (Their gang Car in 2) It is just a reference. Seeing as the Zaibatsus aren't mentioned at all in the HD universe so far. Im Not Saying its Likely im saying it may be a Possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbanov Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It could be a possibility that the Z-Type was added to GTA V because it's set in 2013, like GTA2 (According to those police reports in the GTA2 site), and was there to be a nod to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) It could be a possibility that the Z-Type was added to GTA V because it's set in 2013, like GTA2 (According to those police reports in the GTA2 site), and was there to be a nod to it. Possibly. Anyways, back on topic, seems like each gang tagged their own turfs. I've found a few gang tags scattered in the img files. Meaning Zaibatsus were definitely going to come back. Cheers everyone for sharing your own opinions. Edited August 20, 2014 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinaAnna Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 If the Zaibatsu does come back, it will probably come back in some future game. It is unlikely to be seen again unless as DLC update content giving them nods for some random products that might appear in the game, as they have for the past 6 games or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) If the Zaibatsu does come back, it will probably come back in some future game. It is unlikely to be seen again unless as DLC update content giving them nods for some random products that might appear in the game, as they have for the past 6 games or so. Yeah, I agree on that one. But now, we are sure they've been in Grand Theft Auto 3 as a gang. Due to turf tagging and the alpha props (Z crate). Even the Diablos were having their own turf stamp, as seen in the OP. The answer's pretty obvious to me right now. Edited August 20, 2014 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) If the Zaibatsu does come back, it will probably come back in some future game. It is unlikely to be seen again unless as DLC update content giving them nods for some random products that might appear in the game, as they have for the past 6 games or so. Yeah, I agree on that one. But now, we are sure they've been in Grand Theft Auto 3 as a gang. Due to turf tagging and the alpha props (Z crate). Even the Diablos were having their own turf stamp, as seen in the OP. The answer's pretty obvious to me right now. Of course, It is really old topic. There is even a render with that crate (along with the other objects). But anyway - GTA 2's events aren't exactly happening in 2013. It's a big fault to think GTA 2 is set in 2013. Edited November 29, 2014 by Filip454 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergiu Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) If the Zaibatsu does come back, it will probably come back in some future game. It is unlikely to be seen again unless as DLC update content giving them nods for some random products that might appear in the game, as they have for the past 6 games or so. Yeah, I agree on that one. But now, we are sure they've been in Grand Theft Auto 3 as a gang. Due to turf tagging and the alpha props (Z crate). Even the Diablos were having their own turf stamp, as seen in the OP. The answer's pretty obvious to me right now. Of course, It is really old topic. There is even a render with that crate (along with the other objects). But anyway - GTA 2's events aren't exactly happening in 2013. It's a big fault to think GTA 2 is set in 2013. Indeed, old topic on both ways (this topic itself and the discussion) but nobody has ever mentioned the other gang tags. GTA 2 doesn't really have any timeline, it is just "three weeks into the future". GTA 2's not a game to be taken seriously when it comes to the consistency of elements. Edited November 29, 2014 by CasualSergiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error2k Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Zaibatsu should replace Merryweather in GTA 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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