Lethal Vaccine Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 GTA 3 was pretty hard, especially that Espresso 2 Go mission solely because there's no menu map or any other way to detect the stands unless you've got a guide. Â jam8tone all the way, LOL Â I agree here. I mean, technically, you can go find all 9 stands BEFORE destroying them, thus, the timer won't start until you destrou the 1st. Â However, I just used jam8tone's walkthrough. I would destroy a stand. Pause the game. Go back to the computer to see the Youtube video. And repeat the process until all 9 were done. Â I thought S.A.M. was harder than that, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBG Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 This Mr_Leone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Really? ^^^^ That gave you trouble? I did that in 2007 probably first try and I know I did that mission first try as well in my most recent playthrough which was this past June to 100%, best stats, and a proof/unique/EC vehicle collection. Â Quite frankly, I think VC and GTA V are the easiest games in the entire series. I don't find any GTA's story very hard, either. It's usally some side stuff that cause some problems. Something tricky for me in VC was PCJ Playground side mission. Even the final story mission where I had to kill Diaz and Vance, it only took 3 tries. I actually killed Vance on the roof with molotovs without any goons firing a single shot at me, LOL...And I killed Diaz after I quickly ran into this small room and hid behind the wall and kept sneaking up on him. Very easy stuff, VC. Edited August 23, 2014 by Militia Nico, KBG and Kafonix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Demolition Man wasn't too bad on PS2, but it was a prick of a mission on PC IMO. KBG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 This  Oh god that mission was awful. Why did Tommy need an RC Helicopter to place the bombs? He could have used his hands and legs ffs... donnits and KBG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014  This  Oh god that mission was awful. Why did Tommy need an RC Helicopter to place the bombs? He could have used his hands and legs ffs... There's a difference between real logic and GTA logic... KBG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I was joking. Â But that mission is/was terrible and whoever designed it should never be allowed to code a video game ever. Â SA's missions were pretty hard too although I suppose that's mostly to do with the fact that they were poorly written. (I'm looking at you Wrong side of the tracks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 GTA III and GTA VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I was joking.. I think you missed my point Mr Vercetti. All I was was saying is there's real logic that would mean us doing it on foot. Then there's GTA logic that makes it the most inconvenient thing ever. Vercetti42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangOne50 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 San Andreas was the hardest. Though I never played the IV series but I hear they were pretty easy. I have beat all my GTAs without any cheats or deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 San Andreas was the hardest. Though I never played the IV series but I hear they were pretty easy. I have beat all my GTAs without any cheats or deaths. GTA IV isn't the hardest GTA, but I don't think it's that easy. Or at least what people describe. I liked GTA IV's overall difficulty because it wasn't exactly hand holding (like GTA V) yet not as frustrating as some of the 3D eras. Â I've always felt like it had a good balance between somewhat challenging missions and missions that don't require hair replacement afterwards. Payne Killer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Byzantine Empire Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 San Andreas is the hardest GTA, imo. (without cheats). Â Hard missions, gang wars that needs some caution, CJ's health bar could be depleted easily in Los Santos chaos. Â But the hardest mission in GTA history is in GTA VCS. (Domestobot in Menendez Mansion). Oh, man this mission drives me crazy! ten-a-penny and KBG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Badgirl Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Â As someone who's never managed to get past more than 20 missions in any of the 3D era games (yeah yeah, I suck. Go ahead and laugh at me) I choose III as being the toughest. There are a couple reasons for this. Â One, cars are so absurdly weak in that game. Of course, that only seems to apply to the car you're driving, enemy cars can take much more damage. A couple bullets and your engine will be in flames. The fact that Pay N' Sprays aren't marked on the map is another factor. This leads to irritation when I've got the cops on my ass and can't remember where the nearest Pay N' Spray is. Â Vice City definitely seems like the easiest of the PS2 trilogy though. I might actually be able to beat that one. Â Yeah, if you aren't very good, I suggest trying VC or V. These are the two easiest games in the entire 3D and HD Era combined. TLaD and TBoGT are cake, too, but those aren't "full" games. Â Â I beat IV, TBOGT and V without too much trouble. It's the controls of the old GTAs that make them difficult for me. I think if I had played the PS2 GTAs when they came out instead of a good ten years later, I would have found them easier. Â IV does have some missions that aggrivated me at first, but they became a lot easier on my second playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangbutt Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Had to use a weapons cheat to beat the final mission in III, but that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 This Demolition Man wasn't too bad on PS2, but it was a prick of a mission on PC IMO. I'll never understand what makes this mission so hard for almost everyone. The Byzantine Empire 1 Did you see the frightened ones? Did you hear the falling bombs? Did you ever wonder... ...why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Oh god that mission was awful. Why did Tommy need an RC Helicopter to place the bombs? He could have used his hands and legs ffs... Â But those RC Helicopters control just like a regular Maverick would control...Thus, if you can fly a Helicopter, the RC Chopper is no different. I still can't see how this was trouble for some people. PC is a different story, never played one single PC game ever for 1 minute of my life, so I can't speak. But PS2 is so easy with this mission. If you can fly a helicopter, you can pass the mission. It's that simple... I was joking. Â But that mission is/was terrible and whoever designed it should never be allowed to code a video game ever. Â SA's missions were pretty hard too although I suppose that's mostly to do with the fact that they were poorly written. (I'm looking at you Wrong side of the tracks). Â Wrong Side of the Tracks? You just drive the AP Sanchez (That's right, the Sanchez is BP, DP, EP, and FP) a bit away from the train. The closer you are to the train, Smoke or Ryder, or whoever the f*ck is riding with you, can't shoot the guys on the train. The farther away you are, Smoke easily can kill those guys quickly. It's all about finding the right location and distance away from the train, that's all. Nothing to it, really... San Andreas is the hardest GTA, imo. (without cheats). Â Hard missions, gang wars that needs some caution, CJ's health bar could be depleted easily in Los Santos chaos. Â But the hardest mission in GTA history is in GTA VCS. (Domestobot in Menendez Mansion). Oh, man this mission drives me crazy! Â That mission with the Robot is "unique" but it's not really special or hard to say the least. You just click a few buttons on the controller and you pass the mission. It's very easy. I won't lie, though, but for every GTA game and missions etc, I view a Youtube video before doing it, but by doing that, I do everything first try. Â VCS overall, though, gave me some trouble here and there. Since April I re-did all 5 3D Era games (III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS) over to 100%, so I am used to all this stuff now a days. I always have 0 Cheats, 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Missions Failed. The games themselves are easy enough, so I gotta challenge myself or I'll fall asleep basically... I beat IV, TBOGT and V without too much trouble. It's the controls of the old GTAs that make them difficult for me. I think if I had played the PS2 GTAs when they came out instead of a good ten years later, I would have found them easier. Â IV does have some missions that aggrivated me at first, but they became a lot easier on my second playthrough. Â LOLOL...I hear ya. See, I started with III. So I am so used to the 3D Controls and actually HATE the HD Controls. Luckily, GTA IV + Episodes allows me to change the Controller Type back to "Classic" so it makes is very similar to the 3D Controls, at least for driving vehicles. V forces everyone to get used to the stupid new controls. I don't like them at all. Try going back and forth from the controls and you'll have a problem. I didn't play V in 6 months now, since March and the 3D Era Controls and Classic Controls on IV + Episodes is all I know pretty much. I am dreading going back to V and hitting X for the gas, meanwhile it's the f*cking handbrake. Rockstar flip flopped everything. Logic? None. I'll never understand what makes this mission so hard for almost everyone. Â That's what I am saying. It's not like the RC Monster Trucks in LCS which are impossible to handle. The RC Chopper in VC flies like any ordinary Maverick, basically. Can't fly a Helicopter? Edited August 23, 2014 by Militia Payne Killer and Nico 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) This Haha, not really. I passed it on my first try as well as mission "Freefall" in San Andreas which most people also find hard. For me the hardest mission was to learn how to get all Golds in San Andreas driving school- it took me a lot attempts. But cheats wouldn't help me with that anyway. Â Imo, San Andreas offers a lot of challenges, much more than any other GTA game. I had so much fun doing pretty much anything in this game- even collectibles, if you do them early in the game with 4 stars, can be fun. Edited August 24, 2014 by ThatSpecialSomeone Tacymist, TheGr8Cornholio, Flachbau and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillBellic Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I have never played Grand Theft Auto (1997) with out cheats. Every other 3D/HD game I have usually done at least one story play through without cheats. Â Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matajuegos01 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 definitely GTA III, others may have hard missions but this one takes the cake: enemies with miniguns (with m16 skins), no map, cars made of plasticine, etc. Â still one of my favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyborgZombieJesus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 If you need cheats to complete GTA then you just are not being creative enough. Saying that though I would say that GTA III was probably the most challenging however maybe that's because I was younger and not as clever as I am now. Always think about different ways to attack an objective man. Payne Killer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyborgZombieJesus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 But those RC Helicopters control just like a regular Maverick would control...Thus, if you can fly a Helicopter, the RC Chopper is no different. I still can't see how this was trouble for some people. PC is a different story, never played one single PC game ever for 1 minute of my life, so I can't speak. But PS2 is so easy with this mission. If you can fly a helicopter, you can pass the mission. It's that simple... Â I view a Youtube video before doing it, but by doing that, I do everything first try. Â That's what I am saying. It's not like the RC Monster Trucks in LCS which are impossible to handle. The RC Chopper in VC flies like any ordinary Maverick, basically. Can't fly a Helicopter? Â Firstly you sound very condescending. You talk like you are the best pilot in the world but you seem to forget that it wasn't the controls of the RC chopper that made that mission hard for some people. It's the fact there are enemies who attack the chopper, which has a very small health bar. Â Secondly you are not playing the game if you just watch Youtube videos and parrot fashion complete missions using other people's methods. In my opinion you complete games by cheating. Therefore you don't have the right to say YOU have completed any of them nor do you have the right to say a mission is easy and act all high and mightyand have a 'I am a boss' attitude. Â My guess is that if you rely so heavily on Youtube then you are a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) First of all learn NOT to double post. Too hard to copy and past a second reply into the first? I guess so. Second, well you play GTAO, so you're null and void to me... Â EDIT: It also appears you didn't even quote me properly, either...Like taking advice from a retard. Edited September 22, 2014 by Militia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtafaninwest Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I would say mostly GTA III, when it comes to the car handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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