The reason GTA SA's storyline was weak

[SuperGTFan]

So cute when lastmanonearth tries to lure me in

[lastmanonearth]

So cute when lastmanonearth tries to lure me in

Pardon?

[SuperGTFan]

 

 

So cute when lastmanonearth tries to lure me in

Pardon?Just how many times you want to complain about IV like this ?

 

It always resulted in this vs that between you and the IV fanbase .

Edited May 10, 2015 by SuperGTFan

[ten-a-penny]

^OK man, you`ve made your point that YOU THINK it was a weak story. It`s cool, I respectfully disagree however. I don`t think it`s that much more unrealistic compared to V, all it takes is a little suspension of disbelief but not much more than for when you watch an action movie. The Terminator requires more suspension of disbelief and yet no one complains about how unrealistic The Terminator is, everyone accepts it for what it is. And for a videogame, it was much better written than many other games, more like a movie or a fictional novel or something. If it had been realistic as f*ck like IV it would have been boring as hell, like IV.

Um.....

I never said that SA should be like IV?

[Osho]

 

 

 

So cute when lastmanonearth tries to lure me in

Pardon?

Just how many times you want to complain about IV like this ?

 

It always resulted in this vs that between you and the IV fanbase .

Just how many times you are going to keep spamming nearly every thread by sarcastic off topic comments?

Besides, he was simply using IV to explain his point more clearly!

[SuperGTFan]

Story of San Andreas was great , but it did need more missions between CJ and his family , Sweet's long time in prison really hurted the narrative .

[Son of Zeus]

So I just noticed the OP.

 

Boyz2Society.

 

In case anyone doesn't know, this guy is a huge Tommy & VC fanboy, who keeps nitpicking at SA. Along with his friend Paul723, he keeps critisicing SA over at the VC section.

 

Their butthurt is so great, they come here to make negative threads.

 

For example, Paul723 made a thread titled "Pretend SA didn't have customisation features". In the thread, he says "Let's face it, guys. People only like CJ because of the customisations".

 

And now these two are very active in this thread, constantly bumping it. And not to forget the great Midnight Hitman, who visits this section only to post negative things.

 

 

So this is just a message to fellow SA fans: It's the great butthurt of the VC fanboys Boyz2Society and Paul723 that prompts them to create negative threads and actively participate in it.

 

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.

 

I'm out.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Son of Zeus

[ten-a-penny]

I didn't knew that criticizing something = [thing here] hater.

 

By that logic then I should hate SA just because I criticize the story, even though I actually like the game.

[gangster2332]

I didn't knew that criticizing something = [thing here] hater.

 

By that logic then I should hate SA just because I criticize the story, even though I actually like the game.

why didnt you like thr story?

[SuperGTFan]

Another problem with the story is that the only goal that CJ was after is working for Toreno to free Sweet , would have been much better if he was looking for the culprit that planned the murder of CJ's mother.

[Boyz2Society]

So I just noticed the OP.

 

Boyz2Society.

 

In case anyone doesn't know, this guy is a huge Tommy & VC fanboy, who keeps nitpicking at SA. Along with his friend Paul723, he keeps critisicing SA over at the VC section.

 

Their butthurt is so great, they come here to make negative threads.

 

For example, Paul723 made a thread titled "Pretend SA didn't have customisation features". In the thread, he says "Let's face it, guys. People only like CJ because of the customisations".

 

And now these two are very active in this thread, constantly bumping it. And not to forget the great Midnight Hitman, who visits this section only to post negative things.

 

 

So this is just a message to fellow SA fans: It's the great butthurt of the VC fanboys Boyz2Society and Paul723 that prompts them to create negative threads and actively participate in it.

 

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.

 

I'm out.

That's funny. Because in another forum where everyone was talking about their favorite protagonists, CJ was the first on my list with Tommy at number two. So yeah. You just made yourself sound embarrassedly stupid with that presumptuous bullsh*t you just posted. Ironic, huh?

[Son of Zeus]

 

So I just noticed the OP.

 

Boyz2Society.

 

In case anyone doesn't know, this guy is a huge Tommy & VC fanboy, who keeps nitpicking at SA. Along with his friend Paul723, he keeps critisicing SA over at the VC section.

 

Their butthurt is so great, they come here to make negative threads.

 

For example, Paul723 made a thread titled "Pretend SA didn't have customisation features". In the thread, he says "Let's face it, guys. People only like CJ because of the customisations".

 

And now these two are very active in this thread, constantly bumping it. And not to forget the great Midnight Hitman, who visits this section only to post negative things.

 

 

So this is just a message to fellow SA fans: It's the great butthurt of the VC fanboys Boyz2Society and Paul723 that prompts them to create negative threads and actively participate in it.

 

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.

 

I'm out.

 

That's funny. Because in another forum where everyone was talking about their favorite protagonists, CJ was the first on my list with Tommy at number two. So yeah. You just made yourself sound embarrassedly stupid with that presumptuos bullsh*t you just posted. Ironic, huh?

I'm sorry, but I've got better things to do than keep track of your posts 24/7. I'm talking about this forum, not some other. So congrats, you became an idiot by mentioning another forum.

 

So far I've seen you nitpicking on SA at the VC section and talking negative on this section.

 

Presumptuous bullsh*t?

That's funny, coming from you. Remember how you and your friend started spouting sh*t when I said Tommy was one-dimensional?

Edited May 10, 2015 by Son of Zeus

[ten-a-penny]

 

I didn't knew that criticizing something = [thing here] hater.

 

By that logic then I should hate SA just because I criticize the story, even though I actually like the game.

why didnt you like thr story?

I didn't like story because..... I simply didn't like it?

Stupid question if you ask me. I didn't find it entertaining and I didn't knew what the f*ck the game was about, the second CJ was dumped outside LS.

 

 

EDIT: Kinda off topic but I decided to ask here, hopefully somebody can answer.

 

Its either an issue in Gmail, or the site itself. Because I made it so that whenever somebody make a new post in any thread I'm following I get a message in Gmail stating that there's a reply to a thread I'm following, but these days not every post shows up in Gmail. I didn't get notified when gangster2332 posted here even though I'm actually following this thread.

 

Is it a forum issue or the problem is coming from Gmail?

Edited May 10, 2015 by ten-a-penny

[Th3MaN1]

The view on the game nowadays is different.

 

Back in 2004, the game was not liked, or criticized for it's story. It was a game with many things to do, and it captures the gang life pretty well, so the story got a pass. But since we're not in 2004, but in 2015, looking back on the game, you may be dissapointed.

I can assure you that the first time I played the game, I gave two f*cks about the story. I was alright with anything that happened, and didn't question it. CJ goes from gangbanger to owning the entire state of San Andreas, all while working with secrets agents, stealing jets and sh*t? I just didn't give a f*ck, and the same could be said for many other people.

 

Ever since Walking Dead won the GOTY for 2012 (not that I give a sh*t about the award, but still), people became to also have an opinion about the story. Hell, even when GTA IV came out (which arguably has the best story in the series), it wasn't much about the story, it was more about the graphics and gameplay.

 

Today you look back at San Andreas, can you honestly say it's telling a good story? I doubt that. I don't want to make other's agree with my opinion, but every time I look back at it, the story sucks, pure and simple.

 

But that's not to say it's not fun at times. Tenpenny was a pretty good antagonist, and I was pretty interested to see how Ryder and Smoke would be handled. But the way CJ goes through San Andreas is just too stupid.

 

But do you seriously think even R* gave a crap about the story? I'm pretty sure they weren't even trying. Vice City was the only 3D era game that had a good story. GTA III's was average at best, and SA's one was crap, to be honest.

 

The only good part of the story was the start and the end. Yes, when you were 'fo' the grove'.

[Boyz2Society]

 

 

So I just noticed the OP.

 

Boyz2Society.

 

In case anyone doesn't know, this guy is a huge Tommy & VC fanboy, who keeps nitpicking at SA. Along with his friend Paul723, he keeps critisicing SA over at the VC section.

 

Their butthurt is so great, they come here to make negative threads.

 

For example, Paul723 made a thread titled "Pretend SA didn't have customisation features". In the thread, he says "Let's face it, guys. People only like CJ because of the customisations".

 

And now these two are very active in this thread, constantly bumping it. And not to forget the great Midnight Hitman, who visits this section only to post negative things.

 

 

So this is just a message to fellow SA fans: It's the great butthurt of the VC fanboys Boyz2Society and Paul723 that prompts them to create negative threads and actively participate in it.

 

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.

 

I'm out.

 

That's funny. Because in another forum where everyone was talking about their favorite protagonists, CJ was the first on my list with Tommy at number two. So yeah. You just made yourself sound embarrassedly stupid with that presumptuos bullsh*t you just posted. Ironic, huh?

I'm sorry, but I've got better things to do than keep track of your posts 24/7. I'm talking about this forum, not some other. So congrats, you became an idiot by mentioning another forum.

 

So far I've seen you nitpicking on SA at the VC section and talking negative on this section.

 

Presumptuous bullsh*t?

That's funny, coming from you. Remember how you and your friend started spouting sh*t when I said Tommy was one-dimensional?

How in any f*cking way was I "nitpicking?" All I said was that I enjoy playing SA, but the storyline was weak. That in no way is "nitpicking", as you call it. You're the one getting "butthurt" (I put that word in quotes just to reiterate what you call me as, because I hate platitudes like that) over the fact that I point out the obtrusive flaws of your favorite game. Hell, in a post about Claude being the most overrated protagonist, I actually defended CJ along with Tommy and Niko, saying that all three have their overrated moments but are still great.

 

Also, pretty ironic you call me an idiot for mentioning another post when that's exactly what you did in your original post. Irony just reflected back on you. Hurts, doesn't it?

 

Also, in the other post I actually said I respected your opinion about Tommy and gave examples of how he's not "one-dimensional" as you claimed he was and that Claude was the one-dimensional one.

 

Amazing how I point out a few flaws and you assume that I speak negatively about a game when I had not once said anything negative about CJ or the game itself. But it's cool though. You obviously misconstrued my comments and I forgive you for that, man. So we cool now. At least you're not a complete asshole like natetheguitarkid.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Boyz2Society

[housedeep]

I personally don't find SA's story weak. Some characters and their respective sub-plots take the focus away from the main story at certain points, but it is in no way a weak story IMO. The story didn't revolve around the gang as I expected, but in then other hand, you get to interact with various characters and their life-story, all this around three diferent states, which feels like a great adventure.

The story was good enough to me.

[ten-a-penny]

Off topic post is off topic.

As always Gmail is acting out. This is getting annoying.

[gangster2332]

Off topic post is off topic.

As always Gmail is acting out. This is getting annoying.

do u receive emails when sonebody posts something here lol?

[Boyz2Society]

I personally don't find SA's story weak. Some characters and their respective sub-plots take the focus away from the main story at certain points, but it is in no way a weak story IMO. The story didn't revolve around the gang as I expected, but in then other hand, you get to interact with various characters and their life-story, all this around three diferent states, which feels like a great adventure.

The story was good enough to me.

Now that is a respectful way to disagree with me. And for that, I respect your opinion more than anyone else's on this forum, because you didn't come off as an asshole like those other three assholes who disagreed with me.

 

Anyway, I'm cool with anyone who tells me that they liked the story. I just felt that the storyline needed more improvements.

 

Also, Ryder was my favorite NP character of the whole game and I hate how he was completely ignored after his death while Smoke's overrated fat ass got all the attention.

[ten-a-penny]

^ Another point.

Smoke got all the attention with a dramatic cutscene but Ryder didn't. Why?

 

 

 

Off topic post is off topic.
As always Gmail is acting out. This is getting annoying.

do u receive emails when sonebody posts something here lol?

Yes, but its either Gmail or this site that is messing up. This is the third time someone post here and I didn't get a notification about it.

Its an option somewhere in the Settings. When you check the option you'll get a message on the E-mail you used to register here. In my case I used my G-Mail account.

[Th3MaN1]

I personally don't find SA's story weak. Some characters and their respective sub-plots take the focus away from the main story at certain points, but it is in no way a weak story IMO. The story didn't revolve around the gang as I expected, but in then other hand, you get to interact with various characters and their life-story, all this around three diferent states, which feels like a great adventure.

The story was good enough to me.

I do agree, it was nice how you got to meet so many colourfull characters. Woozie, Toreno, hell, even guys like T-Bone etc. were awesome characters. The biggest problem was that they were thrown in very fast.

 

I may be digging in far too deep now, but this was something that stood out for me.

 

The gang T-Bone was in (I really don't remember the pimp's name) was just pushing dope, right? Nothing major. But then, what was Toreno doing in there, an agent who asks a gang member to do the impossible? I know it's a video game, and I wouldn't really consider what I just said something that hurts the story in a huge way, it's just that the strings were tied very weak.

[Paul723]

I didn't knew that criticizing something = [thing here] hater.

 

By that logic then I should hate SA just because I criticize the story, even though I actually like the game.

Let's face it. Too many SA fanboys are gonna call anyone who points out one flaw a hater because they're so butthurt. Like that asshole who called me a VC fanboy. Hell I dislike more characters in VC than the ones in SA. Tommy, Diaz, Colonel Cortez, Avery, Phil, and Earnest were the only characters of that game I liked. Everyone else I despised with a passion. For SA, the only characters I dislike are CJ, OG Loc, Catalina, Rosenberg, and Maccer. I love everyone else, and Pulaski and Truth are the ones I'm fairly ambivalent towards. So that other guy is just talking out of his hurt ass calling me a VC fanboy and calling someone I don't even know my friend.

 

I'm not gonna lie either. When I first heard about GTA SA, I was so excited because we were finally gonna have a black protagonist in GTA. So when I actually played the game, I was interested in what kind of guy CJ was. I decided to give him a chance since it was still the beginning of the game. When he did missions for OG Loc, I started to lose a little respect for him. But I decided to just let it slide since that wasn't an important factor of the game. But as soon as I got to the cutscene where that Colombian psychopath pointed a gun to his temple, I stopped liking him once he begged for clemency. Thay exacerbated when he bitched at Toreno after that Vertical Bird mission and complained about a rocket launcher in the middle of a riot.

 

Overall, the only protagonist worse than CJ IMO is Vic.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Paul723

[roadrage19]

 

 

 

So I just noticed the OP.

 

Boyz2Society.

 

In case anyone doesn't know, this guy is a huge Tommy & VC fanboy, who keeps nitpicking at SA. Along with his friend Paul723, he keeps critisicing SA over at the VC section.

 

Their butthurt is so great, they come here to make negative threads.

 

For example, Paul723 made a thread titled "Pretend SA didn't have customisation features". In the thread, he says "Let's face it, guys. People only like CJ because of the customisations".

 

And now these two are very active in this thread, constantly bumping it. And not to forget the great Midnight Hitman, who visits this section only to post negative things.

 

 

So this is just a message to fellow SA fans: It's the great butthurt of the VC fanboys Boyz2Society and Paul723 that prompts them to create negative threads and actively participate in it.

 

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.

 

I'm out.

 

That's funny. Because in another forum where everyone was talking about their favorite protagonists, CJ was the first on my list with Tommy at number two. So yeah. You just made yourself sound embarrassedly stupid with that presumptuos bullsh*t you just posted. Ironic, huh?

I'm sorry, but I've got better things to do than keep track of your posts 24/7. I'm talking about this forum, not some other. So congrats, you became an idiot by mentioning another forum.

 

So far I've seen you nitpicking on SA at the VC section and talking negative on this section.

 

Presumptuous bullsh*t?

That's funny, coming from you. Remember how you and your friend started spouting sh*t when I said Tommy was one-dimensional?

How in any f*cking way was I "nitpicking?" All I said was that I enjoy playing SA, but the storyline was weak. That in no way is "nitpicking", as you call it. You're the one getting "butthurt" (I put that word in quotes just to reiterate what you call me as, because I hate platitudes like that) over the fact that I point out the obtrusive flaws of your favorite game. Hell, in a post about Claude being the most overrated protagonist, I actually defended CJ along with Tommy and Niko, saying that all three have their overrated moments but are still great.

 

Also, pretty ironic you call me an idiot for mentioning another post when that's exactly what you did in your original post. Irony just reflected back on you. Hurts, doesn't it?

 

Also, in the other post I actually said I respected your opinion about Tommy and gave examples of how he's not "one-dimensional" as you claimed he was and that Claude was the one-dimensional one.

 

Amazing how I point out a few flaws and you assume that I speak negatively about a game when I had not once said anything negative about CJ or the game itself. But it's cool though. You obviously misconstrued my comments and I forgive you for that, man. So we cool now. At least you're not a complete asshole like natetheguitarkid.

aw man. Don't bring that guy up. Natetheguitarkid is prehaps the biggest asshole on this forum. Him and Rollin69.

[lastmanonearth]

The view on the game nowadays is different.

 

Back in 2004, the game was not liked, or criticized for it's story. It was a game with many things to do, and it captures the gang life pretty well, so the story got a pass. But since we're not in 2004, but in 2015, looking back on the game, you may be dissapointed.

I can assure you that the first time I played the game, I gave two f*cks about the story. I was alright with anything that happened, and didn't question it. CJ goes from gangbanger to owning the entire state of San Andreas, all while working with secrets agents, stealing jets and sh*t? I just didn't give a f*ck, and the same could be said for many other people.

 

Ever since Walking Dead won the GOTY for 2012 (not that I give a sh*t about the award, but still), people became to also have an opinion about the story. Hell, even when GTA IV came out (which arguably has the best story in the series), it wasn't much about the story, it was more about the graphics and gameplay.

 

Today you look back at San Andreas, can you honestly say it's telling a good story? I doubt that. I don't want to make other's agree with my opinion, but every time I look back at it, the story sucks, pure and simple.

 

But that's not to say it's not fun at times. Tenpenny was a pretty good antagonist, and I was pretty interested to see how Ryder and Smoke would be handled. But the way CJ goes through San Andreas is just too stupid.

 

But do you seriously think even R* gave a crap about the story? I'm pretty sure they weren't even trying. Vice City was the only 3D era game that had a good story. GTA III's was average at best, and SA's one was crap, to be honest.

 

The only good part of the story was the start and the end. Yes, when you were 'fo' the grove'.

I respectfully disagree. I`d say that ESPECIALLY now after the release of GTAs IV and V, the SA story looks better than it ever did. It`s not only realism that makes a story good, many depressing European cinema "masterpieces" are 100% realistic movies about children dying a slow death from cancer and eventually dying in the most miserable way imaginable, but are those good stories? That`s the kind of movie my mom would watch because she`ll only watch whatever makes her cry, and it has to be 100% realistic and depressing to be a "good movie" according to her. She has the right to think that but my opinion couldn`t be any more different. GTA IV on one hand was like a European cinema masterpiece, boring as f*ck but it has a cult following because of it, since there are people who care about the realism more than they care about fun. Fair enough.

 

Then you have V which is fun yet unrealistic, more like SA. I liked the bare skeleton of V`s story but was disappointed that it was too short to the point that it didn`t explore either of the three protagonists` individual stories near deeply enough as it should have, nor the stories of any of the numerous antagonists it had. For instance, Franklin had one girlfriend the whole story and I had forgotten about her until she appeared at the end and surprised me. SA`s story was right on the money IMHO because it had the fun, the length, the emotional attachment to the characters, everything. I felt that way about CJ because his mom died while he wasn`t there and his little brother died and his older brother didn`t love him and didn`t want to recognize that he was trying to win back his respect etc. We didn`t get anything like that to get us to sympathize with the characters in V, and in IV they tried so hard to get us emotionally attached to Niko and Roman that it all felt like it was done just to achieve that goal, and so we miss out on the kind of outlandish fun we`ve come to expect and look forward to in GTA.

 

So yes, taking into consideration that it`s 2015 and all the GTA titles that have come out since, I`d still have to honestly say that the SA story takes the cake as being the best overall. I`ll agree that it`s the most unlikely story but that doesn`t phase me in the slightest and it easily beats V, IV, VCS, LCS and I don`t know Chinatown Wars because I haven`t played it but probably that one as well. That`s not to say I don`t enjoy playing any of these other GTAs, in fact other GTAs have done certain things better than SA did, but overall and story wise SA has the best story since VC (and I`m kinda torn between the SA and VC`s stories,) but VC was heavily inspired by scarface while SA was mostly original. SA had the most epic story too.

[Th3MaN1]

I respect your opinion, but honestly, I can't see how you were emotionally attached to the characters. Maybe CJ, but that's about it. I couldn't really care less much about the others. Maybe if the story went in a different direction with Smoke and Ryder, I would have my view on the game changed. I just couldn't really care about any of the guys, simple as that.

 

Sure, CJ's mom died, and his brother as well, but they didn't dwell on that much. A nice touch to the story would have been CJ interrogatting Smoke (before his death) about who killed his mother, because as far as I remember, CJ didn't find out. The evidence was there that Tenpenny, Smoke and Ryder were behind it, but according to the prequel cinematic that R* released, it was a group of Ballas that attack Grove St. and took out CJ's mom.

 

 

The view on the game nowadays is different.

 

Back in 2004, the game was not liked, or criticized for it's story. It was a game with many things to do, and it captures the gang life pretty well, so the story got a pass. But since we're not in 2004, but in 2015, looking back on the game, you may be dissapointed.

I can assure you that the first time I played the game, I gave two f*cks about the story. I was alright with anything that happened, and didn't question it. CJ goes from gangbanger to owning the entire state of San Andreas, all while working with secrets agents, stealing jets and sh*t? I just didn't give a f*ck, and the same could be said for many other people.

 

Ever since Walking Dead won the GOTY for 2012 (not that I give a sh*t about the award, but still), people became to also have an opinion about the story. Hell, even when GTA IV came out (which arguably has the best story in the series), it wasn't much about the story, it was more about the graphics and gameplay.

 

Today you look back at San Andreas, can you honestly say it's telling a good story? I doubt that. I don't want to make other's agree with my opinion, but every time I look back at it, the story sucks, pure and simple.

 

But that's not to say it's not fun at times. Tenpenny was a pretty good antagonist, and I was pretty interested to see how Ryder and Smoke would be handled. But the way CJ goes through San Andreas is just too stupid.

 

But do you seriously think even R* gave a crap about the story? I'm pretty sure they weren't even trying. Vice City was the only 3D era game that had a good story. GTA III's was average at best, and SA's one was crap, to be honest.

 

The only good part of the story was the start and the end. Yes, when you were 'fo' the grove'.

I`ll agree that it`s the most unlikely story but that doesn`t phase me in the slightest

Well you see, if I could say the same thing, I would agree that SA's story was good. I'm not saying it's bad now, but as I said before, it's badly connected. CJ goes up the ladder faster than any motherf*cker. He went from gang member to an owner of a chop shop. Up to this point, it was pretty much alright. But when CJ got to Venturas, it started to get pretty weird from my view. I did like how money changed CJ though. That was awesome, up until the point Sweet got in your sh*t.

 

My question is: Did you disagree with my opinion about San Andreas, or about my opinion of how 'important' story is in video games nowadays?

[lastmanonearth]

My question is: Did you disagree with my opinion about San Andreas, or about my opinion of how 'important' story is in video games nowadays?

I just disagree that it`s a bad story. Obviously a good story is preferable to a bad story, but I wouldn`t call SA`s story thrown together or bad. Considering all the remarkably difficult things CJ did (and we all had to fail a bunch of missions a million times before we passed them,) it`s only fair that he`d be rewarded by Woozie with an OPPORTUNITY to own a share of the casino. He didn`t just hand it to CJ on a silver platter, but made CJ work his ass off before he actually gave him and the other triad guy the contract to sign. And since CJ ultimately completed his side of the bargain by getting rid of the other mafias one extraordinarily difficult mission at a time, he was rightfully rewarded as promised a one third share of the casino. Sounds fair to me. I suppose in real life it would have taken longer to get all those things done, and I would have welcomed a longer story but I understand the limitations of both hardware and man hours and the money that was available to Rockstar to finish the game.

 

Let`s compare SA to V, V has a shorter story revolving around three (3) protagonists, which means it`s impossible to get all the character development that`s necessary for every character to fit in the story, and the story doesn`t have that much variety besides FIB missions and a few heists, despite supposedly having a "larger map" than SA. I just felt much more satisfied when I first finished SA`s story than when I beat V, so IMO SA has the better story - more missions, more mission variety, more character development and a more rewarding ending. Never mind that it also does most other things better too. And why did I feel sympathy toward the characters? I only felt bad about CJ because he`s given excrement sandwiches five ways to Sunday, and still overcomes all the odds to climb to the top. That`s what a real good story is, because of the positive, inspirational message and the morals.

[Osho]

I find it extremely odd that some guys constantly bitch about how the storyline seems badly connected, INSANE, UNREALISTIC and whatever, but even after 10 YEARS they still don't realize that some missions are COMPLETELY OPTIONAL to the MAIN STORYLINE!!

Some missions are not necessary to progress the storyline.

- Wang Cars missions

- Zero's missions

- The Truth's desert missions, yea SUCK that

- Toreno's desert missions (after finishing pilot school), and

- Woozie's Caligula's casino robbery missions.

All the above missions can be completed after the final storyline mission (end of the line), except the ones necessary to get 100% (which barely anyone does).

Source

Basically, I think some people simply don't understand the FACT that GTA SA allows the FREEDOM to complete the main plot without as many irrelevant missions to the main story as possible!!

That's why, these nitpicking regarding the story don't appear to me as CRITICISMS rather quite clearly HATE!!!

It seems some people are so f*cked up to modern 2015 linear storyline and ONLINE experiences, that they aren't able to figure out how to experience the 2004 non-linear story by avoiding some of the unrealistic/irrelevant elements!

[Son of Zeus]

How in any f*cking way was I "nitpicking?" All I said was that I enjoy playing SA, but the storyline was weak. That in no way is "nitpicking", as you call it.

I'll tell you.

 

You mention the jetpack mission as a flaw of the story.

 

It's not a flaw. How?

 

Let's see. In the cutsecene, the dialogue goes like this:

 

CJ: "Hey Truth, do we have a plan here?"

The Truth:"Go, go, go!"

 

This makes it clear that R* made this mission just for the sake of the jetpack. They didn't even bother to make it a bit realistic(for example CJ and Truth making a plan). They just put in the mission thinking it'll be a nice surprise since Area 69 was mysterious and a parody of Area 51.

 

The mission has no effect on the storyline and CJ's character.

 

 

Also, pretty ironic you call me an idiot for mentioning another post when that's exactly what you did in your original post. Irony just reflected back on you. Hurts, doesn't it?

No, I called you an idiot for mentioning a post in some other forum(you didn't even mention which forum). You expect me to keep track of your posts 24/7?

 

I mentioned your activities in the VC section because you're a regular there.

 

 

Amazing how I point out a few flaws and you assume that I speak negatively about the game.

Because some of your flaws aren't flaws. You expected the story to be about gangs only. How the hell can you expect that with three cities?

 

Another reason why the story appears weak to you is that SA was supposed to have three protags. Due to tech limitations, that couldn't happen.

 

Now R* had two choices:

 

1. Cut out many features from the cities, cut out many missions and characters and end up with a short story.

 

2. Keep the cities and their features, put in some over the top fun missions, keep the characters and craft the story like a big adventure all over the state.

 

Needless to say, the first option would have resulted in a short story stretched out over three cities. Possibly many features would have been cut.

 

So they went for the second one. Sure, some over the top missions. But the amazing cast of characters and a brilliant antagonist coupled with an epic wrap up makes it a highly memorable story.

 

So no, the story isn't weak. It's got the best antagonist in the series, it's got charming characters, it's got emotion. The disconnected feel is present at some points, but the bigger picture is awesome.

[SuperGTFan]

We should have seen more background of CJ's Mother and Brian .

[Osho]

I see you have put up some very interesting points SuperGTFan. I think GTA SA deserved sort of a prequel or story mode continued in the format of "San Andreas stories".