The reason GTA SA's storyline was weak

[BabeRuth]

Its best to stay on topic.

[SuperGTFan]

I think that melvin harris should have made more apperances after betraying cj and sweet , or atleast sending death threats phonecalls to cj from time to time , cause he only made one apperance after " the grean sabre " , which it is the the final mission in the game .

[GTA19somethin]

I think that melvin harris should have made more apperances after betraying cj and sweet , or atleast sending death threats phonecalls to cj from time to time , cause he only made one apperance after " the grean sabre " , which it is the the final mission in the game .

Well at least Melvin had a big role in the game. Lance was pretty much forgotten after his demise in Pier 69.

[SuperGTFan]

Kendl should have played a better role rather than the " CJ hooker-looking voice of reason cutscenes-appearing-only of a sister " LOL , I think that ryder and T-bone should have kidnapped her and showed CJ that Melvin really means business .

[Spadge]

Agree with Osho.

 

The only part I can complain about is the Scene of Ryder's death.

[BabeRuth]

His death was a bit early. A while back I made atopic asking if his death was too early, and predominantly most people answered "yes"

[PhillBellic]

I prefer SA's story over V's any day. To me SA wraps its self up in a better manner than V.

[SuperGTFan]

I always wondered what happened to Toreno after cj left the mansion to pick up sweet , he completely vanished from the game .

 

 

The facial apperance of Eugene Reaper and the personality of Charles Doberman in GTA IV might be a reference to toreno himself .

 

 

On-topic : I think there should have been more missions for Los Santos after CJ returned from Las Venturas , because Los Santos didn't feel like the real Los Santos in the first quarter of the story right before the Riot .

[Thegamer111]

I still haven't beat the game LOL

[Gummy]

Because SA originally had 3 protagonists and they made features that are fitting for each protagonists. But then they decided to have 1 protagonists instead, amd they still wanted to keep those features somehow.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Gummy 

[EU Mafia]

At least the story and especially the side characters were better than in V. SA didn't try to be something it couldn't be, and felt like a nice journey through the whole map, pretty much every (main) location gets used. We can't say that of V, why no missions in the Prison or the Military Base? And side characters like Mike Toreno, Cesar, The Truth and Woozie are memorable and good. The antagonist was miles better too, Tenpenny left an impact and was a good villain, Big Smoke was pretty good too. Stretch and Chang Sr. were easily forgettable and Haines and Weston were bland douchebags.

[ten-a-penny]

The storyline simply didn't made sense. I know I know SA wasn't supposed to be a story-driven game blablabla I don't care about that.

 

What REALLY annoy me is how could Savage Skies (a PS2 game, 2 years before SA's release) could have a better story than this randomly made thing. Its like a child wrote the story for his grandma to read, and his father didn't had any story plans for the game so he had to use his little squeaker's story for SA. Hell even Doom had better storyline.

[EU Mafia]

^ Your member title makes you a bit biased.

Edited May 6, 2015 by EU Mafia

[Osho]

^ Your member title makes you a bit biased.

If you read many of his confused and incoherent nonsense at SA comparisons, either with Doom or any random pick, it will instantly makes you think, "oh look! How can one be that stupid?"

I have seen people comparing SA with IV, V or other open world games that are still written with a reasonably fair tone, but the kind of comparisons he invents seems so bizarre that nobody with any common sense could take them seriously.

[lil weasel]

A game, any game, should have the story only in the mind of the Player.

A game should need only an obscure reason for the Avatar to be there and a Goal at the end. Anything in between should be sketchy to allow the imagination of the player to fill in (if the player wants.)

 

The need to question "What is my Motivation" should not be necessary.
Having to supply a Deep and involving Story is simply inane.
If a person needs a Complicated Story, READ A BOOK.
The way these modern games are going there is less play and more "interaction".
You sit watch a movie, then the person is permitted to make a decision. Another movie and another decision. There is no PLAY. You move a character around that is it.

And now we have the Trophy/Achievement. You breathe and you get a trophy, you start the game you get a trophy. You follow the game and you get a trophy. I can understand a prize for doing something out of the ordinary, but these needs for the children to be given a trophy for just doing the normal (must do it anyway) game play is ridiculous. I blame it on the schools

Edited May 7, 2015 by lil weasel

[Sentrion]

I was never a fan of III Era San Andreas plot, but it wasn't the best if you compare it with GTA V, where character backgrounds were focused on even if they made a bad attempting at connecting the storylines. The setting was perfect, so was the game engine. But, I've never been into street gangstar thing. The coolest part was meeting new characters through several contacts. But it doesn't make the storyline any better. So, I agree with you on this one.

[lastmanonearth]

If you pay attention to the story, it`s all explained and makes sense. I`ve never felt like it`s too much to swallow because every once in a while you only face one unrealistic mission objective, like stealing a jetpack, stealing a jet, jumping into a moving plane from another plane... but you only have one of those over the top things per mission. Now if any given mission included stealing a top secret military jet in mid air while riding a jetpack and holding a jar of green goo, then I would have felt like it`s too much. That`s the kind of thing you can expect in Saints Row, as they throw in as many ridiculous elements as possible into any given mission, like fighting off aliens spaceships with a turret on the lawn of the White House as the president of the United States. SA has a fine balance of over-the-top fun and realism IMO. Also you don`t notice those things if you play to have fun as opposed to playing in role of a movie critic.

[Osho]

Yea, people who complain about the SA Story generally review as catering specifically for sone serious, story driven experience.

Instead of looking at SA story as the weak / worst plot, it should be seen at as a means for an enjoying gaming ride throughout because you know, its a "video game" unlike the other way, as seen in case of HD games!

That's why I still love SA story more than IV and V because its more entertaining, enjoyable and overall fun playing and watching the best cast, listening all the memorable lines and music while still having loads of variety shown in both activities and exploration within the game world.

Personally, I'd give an 8/10 for the story!!

[Paul723]

OK, now don't get me wrong now. I love playing GTA San Andreas. But out of all the protagonists of the whole GTA series, CJ was by far the second weakest protagonist (the weakest being Vic). First of all, he lets his little brother die for some obscure reason, and instead of acknowledging his mistake and taking the diatribe from his brother when that happened, he ran to the east coast in a fit of pique and never returned. He let his family struggle in the hood against the Ballas while he was in LC stealing cars with Mr. Leone's son. CJ didn't give a crap about his family until his mom got killed. That's when he went back to giving a sh*t about his family. He would've never went back to his home city had his mom not been killed. That's some selfish sh*t. He was only thinking about himself until his mom's demise. Then he lets almost everyone walk on top of him like he was an old doormat someone could wipe their wet shoes onto. He snuck inside a rapper's mansion and killed his manager because some wannabe gangster told him to. He begged for mercy when a Colombian bitch pointed a gun to his temple. On top of all that, he is completely querulous throughout the whole storyline (example: he whined to Toreno after the latter told him to destroy a few jets and ships, talking about "I nearly lost my life for you" when he did other sh*t that was far more perilous). And even after he owned a car show room in SF and a huge casino in LV, he still goes back to the hood just because his provincial brother told him to instead of getting him to look at the bigger picture. I'm sorry to all you fans of CJ, but as much as I love the game, CJ's my second least favorite protagonist of the whole series.

[Mister Pink]

You are being extremely pedantic, OP. Just because the main theme is early 90's L.A., doesn't mean it has to be early 90's LA in San Fierro and Las Venturas.

 

I think you are completely misreading the whole thing. It think a lot of it went right over your head.

 

Let's look at the obvious and I'll break it down. San Andreas is comprised of 3 cities. Each city has it's own unique weather and colour palette during sunsets etc.

 

The game can be broken in to a few acts. First it's 90's gang culture in a fictional LA. Then you are exiled by cops getting you to do dirty work for them and using you as a puppet to clean up their mess. This takes you to the badlands where you hide out. Now, countryside was a new feature in GTA so they made a good reason to utilise it. Then you meet the Truth and your missions take you to San Fierro.

 

Now, why you think 90's LA gang culture should have existed in a different city famous for hippies, gay people and open-minded culture is beyond me. What you don't seem to get is the missions take you around the map. The missions compliment the locale. So, there's a big triad presence and Asian gang presence in SF, so that's who you start working for. SF is famous for having the film Bullit with Steve McQueen and they flavoured San Fierro with SFUR, modifiable cars with a unique mod shop and it's the only city with 2 mod shops. It's a good city for driving around. You own a car showroom and you own a garage. It's car themed, you know, like GTA!?

 

Then you get to desert. You start to own a runway there. What goes on in the desert in America? Conspiracies, UFO sightings, Area 51. Why not include technology that may be developed in Area 51 in a game? Also the joke ties in with The Truth because the crap you hear him say starts to become The Truth and CJ realises this after a while. He has a conversation with Cesar about it.

Also, for the story, SF is supposed to be the place where CJ makes it out of the hood. with his sister and Cesar. To make a clean break but he has to keep working for Law Enforcement guys to save Sweet, whilst doing his own stuff with Triads etc for cash for the new business to GET OUT OF THE HOOD.

 

Missions take you to Las Venturas. A place that was controlled by Triads and MAFIA. So you work for Leone. Also a cameo from Kent Paul and Maccer. I bet you didn't know who Maccer was and why it was funny that he was out doing Peyote in the desert, lol. And Maccer is so 90's you don't even realise it man. But that probably went over your head too. We also get a cameo from the Lawer from VC. Kent Paul and him knew one another.

 

So, you get taken back to Los Santos to face your demons and conclude the story. Notice how you've now completed a huge journey around the map. Except now you are wiser. You are not skinnny any more. You are not poor. You found out who your friends were.

 

You didn't like your sister going out with a Mexican but this Mexican becomes your best friend. You are brought up in the hood to believe your homies or people your own colour are all thats good for you but obviously not. That is the theme. Black on black crime. Tenpenny screws over "his own." Anyone can be c*nt from any race.

 

And why did he not ask Ryder why he betrayed him? Lol, I think it was pretty obvious. They all did it for the money. It was greed. Him, BS. They ran the city, betrayed friends for money. And CJ had to prove himself, evolve, learn to drive better, learn to fly, he started of scrawy and got big and muscly at the end. There was real progression. He got better at shooting and then he came back to his city and took it back, killing BS, face to face and Tenpenny! He saved his bro and gained a real family. He restored GSF.

 

To summarise, 3 cities and countryside. The story takes you around the map with CJ being exiled and on the run and also trying to leave for a better life but he needs to wrap things up in LS. Having LA gang culture theme forced in the desert would have been cheesy as f*ck. Instead it was a journey that took you and the player from city to city and then back for revenge in your home city.

 

CJ wasn't walked on. They had his brother captive and Law Enforcement blackmailed you in to doing work for them. There wasn't anything he could do. I think you are quite young because a whole bunch of details have gone flying over your head.

Edited May 7, 2015 by Mister Pink

[ten-a-penny]

^ Your member title makes you a bit biased.

Eh, Tenpenny is my all time favorite GTA character so you got that.

 

OK, now don't get me wrong now. I love playing GTA San Andreas. But out of all the protagonists of the whole GTA series, CJ was by far the second weakest protagonist (the weakest being Vic). First of all, he lets his little brother die for some obscure reason, and instead of acknowledging his mistake and taking the diatribe from his brother when that happened, he ran to the east coast in a fit of pique and never returned. He let his family struggle in the hood against the Ballas while he was in LC stealing cars with Mr. Leone's son. CJ didn't give a crap about his family until his mom got killed. That's when he went back to giving a sh*t about his family. He would've never went back to his home city had his mom not been killed. That's some selfish sh*t. He was only thinking about himself until his mom's demise. Then he lets almost everyone walk on top of him like he was an old doormat someone could wipe their wet shoes onto. He snuck inside a rapper's mansion and killed his manager because some wannabe gangster told him to. He begged for mercy when a Colombian bitch pointed a gun to his temple. On top of all that, he is completely querulous throughout the whole storyline (example: he whined to Toreno after the latter told him to destroy a few jets and ships, talking about "I nearly lost my life for you" when he did other sh*t that was far more perilous). And even after he owned a car show room in SF and a huge casino in LV, he still goes back to the hood just because his provincial brother told him to instead of getting him to look at the bigger picture. I'm sorry to all you fans of CJ, but as much as I love the game, CJ's my second least favorite protagonist of the whole series.

CJ is the weakest character I have ever seen in video games. Not even Franklin is as bad.

 

E: And who exactly told you to submit the post you dumb PC?! I still haven't even finished half my response!

Edited May 7, 2015 by ten-a-penny

[Boyz2Society]

You are being extremely pedantic, OP. Just because the main theme is early 90's L.A., doesn't mean it has to be early 90's LA in San Fierro and Las Venturas.

 

I think you are completely misreading the whole thing. It think a lot of it went right over your head.

 

Let's look at the obvious and I'll break it down. San Andreas is comprised of 3 cities. Each city has it's own unique weather and colour palette during sunsets etc.

 

The game can be broken in to a few acts. First it's 90's gang culture in a fictional LA. Then you are exiled by cops getting you to do dirty work for them and using you as a puppet to clean up their mess. This takes you to the badlands where you hide out. Now, countryside was a new feature in GTA so they made a good reason to utilise it. Then you meet the Truth and your missions take you to San Fierro.

 

Now, why you think 90's LA gang culture should have existed in a different city famous for hippies, gay people and open-minded culture is beyond me. What you don't seem to get is the missions take you around the map. The missions compliment the locale. So, there's a big triad presence and Asian gang presence in SF, so that's who you start working for. SF is famous for having the film Bullit with Steve McQueen and they flavoured San Fierro with SFUR, modifiable cars with a unique mod shop and it's the only city with 2 mod shops. It's a good city for driving around. You own a car showroom and you own a garage. It's car themed, you know, like GTA!?

 

Then you get to desert. You start to own a runway there. What goes on in the desert in America? Conspiracies, UFO sightings, Area 51. Why not include technology that may be developed in Area 51 in a game? Also the joke ties in with The Truth because the crap you hear him say starts to become The Truth and CJ realises this after a while. He has a conversation with Cesar about it.

Also, for the story, SF is supposed to be the place where CJ makes it out of the hood. with his sister and Cesar. To make a clean break but he has to keep working for Law Enforcement guys to save Sweet, whilst doing his own stuff with Triads etc for cash for the new business to GET OUT OF THE HOOD.

 

Missions take you to Las Venturas. A place that was controlled by Triads and MAFIA. So you work for Leone. Also a cameo from Kent Paul and Maccer. I bet you didn't know who Maccer was and why it was funny that he was out doing Peyote in the desert, lol. And Maccer is so 90's you don't even realise it man. But that probably went over your head too. We also get a cameo from the Lawer from VC. Kent Paul and him knew one another.

 

So, you get taken back to Los Santos to face your demons and conclude the story. Notice how you've now completed a huge journey around the map. Except now you are wiser. You are not skinnny any more. You are not poor. You found out who your friends were.

 

You didn't like your sister going out with a Mexican but this Mexican becomes your best friend. You are brought up in the hood to believe your homies or people your own colour are all thats good for you but obviously not. That is the theme. Black on black crime. Tenpenny screws over "his own." Anyone can be c*nt from any race.

 

And why did he not ask Ryder why he betrayed him? Lol, I think it was pretty obvious. They all did it for the money. It was greed. Him, BS. They ran the city, betrayed friends for money. And CJ had to prove himself, evolve, learn to drive better, learn to fly, he started of scrawy and got big and muscly at the end. There was real progression. He got better at shooting and then he came back to his city and took it back, killing BS, face to face and Tenpenny! He saved his bro and gained a real family. He restored GSF.

 

To summarise, 3 cities and countryside. The story takes you around the map with CJ being exiled and on the run and also trying to leave for a better life but he needs to wrap things up in LS. Having LA gang culture theme forced in the desert would have been cheesy as f*ck. Instead it was a journey that took you and the player from city to city and then back for revenge in your home city.

 

CJ wasn't walked on. They had his brother captive and Law Enforcement blackmailed you in to doing work for them. There wasn't anything he could do. I think you are quite young because a whole bunch of details have gone flying over your head.

OK first of all, I was born in 1986, so of course I'm young. Even during the year of its release, I always said the storyline was the weak point of the whole game. Evolution is one thing, but flight school, breaking in area 69, flying jetpacks, and pointlessly stealing a jar of goo for absolutely nothing is as arbitrary as you can get. Also, what the hell does playing with RC cars and sh*t have to do with evolving?

 

Another thing is that CJ kills his childhood friend as if he was some random Balla. No cutscene, no drama, no feeling at all. It's as if there was never a character named Ryder in the whole game. Sweet doesn't even as about Ryder's whereabout and probably didnt even know he betrayed the GSF since CJ never mentioned Ryder to him. Overall, Ryder's betrayal, unlike Smoke, made no sense from the beginning. You're gonna tell me that was well-written?

 

I got no problems with anyone who disagree with me, but don't try to instigate an argument out of pique.

Edited May 8, 2015 by Boyz2Society

[The Dedito Gae]

the replies of fanboys here are laughable, CJ is such a mediocre character, most of the time he's just an avatar and nothing else.

 

"if you want a story, go read a book"

lol.

[watersgta3]

the replies of fanboys here are laughable, CJ is such a mediocre character, most of the time he's just an avatar and nothing else.

 

"if you want a story, go read a book"

lol.

Like seriously. If they disagree, then that's fine. But the fact that they desperately keep defending the game's storyline and won't acknowledge its flaws shows that they're secretly pissed off because not everyone wants to share their opinions, thus making most of them dogmatic.

[SuperGTFan]

 

 

the replies of fanboys here are laughable, CJ is such a mediocre character, most of the time he's just an avatar and nothing else.

 

"if you want a story, go read a book"

lol.

Like seriously. If they disagree, then that's fine. But the fact that they desperately keep defending the game's storyline and won't acknowledge its flaws shows that they're secretly pissed off because not everyone wants to share their opinions, thus making most of them dogmatic.Fanboyism at best

[ten-a-penny]

 

the replies of fanboys here are laughable, CJ is such a mediocre character, most of the time he's just an avatar and nothing else.

 

"if you want a story, go read a book"

lol.

Like seriously. If they disagree, then that's fine. But the fact that they desperately keep defending the game's storyline and won't acknowledge its flaws shows that they're secretly pissed off because not everyone wants to share their opinions, thus making most of them dogmatic.

Even though I prefer Gameplay over Story, what's the point of playing with a character if he don't have a backstory? Even Online let's you "give" your character's personality, by using imagination and the like.

 

CJ felt like a black stick figure (no pun intended) throughout the whole f*cking game. Even Franklin had a better story. Inb4 getting called a racist or Kokstar's ass kisser or whatever bullsh*t SA fantards say.

Edited May 7, 2015 by ten-a-penny

[The Dedito Gae]

...what's the point of playing with a character if he don't have a backstory? Even Online let's you "give" your character's personality, by using imagination and the like.

it's because most SA fangirls are annoyed by the story and characters defined personalities , they just want action, i guess that Claude, Trevor and the Online character would suit them, seeing as you can "proyect" your gameplay style into them.

[ten-a-penny]

 

...what's the point of playing with a character if he don't have a backstory? Even Online let's you "give" your character's personality, by using imagination and the like.

it's because most SA fangirls are annoyed by the story and characters defined personalities , they just want action, i guess that Claude, Trevor and the Online character would suit them, seeing as you can "proyect" your gameplay style into them.

And then they start complaining about how "real fanz play es pe" and how "online iz da series's poeson"

 

Meanwhile GTAOnline is the "glitchiest" game I have ever seen. In other words, if what you claim is true, then Online wouldn't be a Glitch-O-Matic as it is now.

Edited May 7, 2015 by ten-a-penny

[lastmanonearth]

OK, now don't get me wrong now. I love playing GTA San Andreas. But out of all the protagonists of the whole GTA series, CJ was by far the second weakest protagonist (the weakest being Vic). First of all, he lets his little brother die for some obscure reason, and instead of acknowledging his mistake and taking the diatribe from his brother when that happened, he ran to the east coast in a fit of pique and never returned. He let his family struggle in the hood against the Ballas while he was in LC stealing cars with Mr. Leone's son. CJ didn't give a crap about his family until his mom got killed. That's when he went back to giving a sh*t about his family. He would've never went back to his home city had his mom not been killed. That's some selfish sh*t. He was only thinking about himself until his mom's demise. Then he lets almost everyone walk on top of him like he was an old doormat someone could wipe their wet shoes onto. He snuck inside a rapper's mansion and killed his manager because some wannabe gangster told him to. He begged for mercy when a Colombian bitch pointed a gun to his temple. On top of all that, he is completely querulous throughout the whole storyline (example: he whined to Toreno after the latter told him to destroy a few jets and ships, talking about "I nearly lost my life for you" when he did other sh*t that was far more perilous). And even after he owned a car show room in SF and a huge casino in LV, he still goes back to the hood just because his provincial brother told him to instead of getting him to look at the bigger picture. I'm sorry to all you fans of CJ, but as much as I love the game, CJ's my second least favorite protagonist of the whole series.

Just because he had a brother doesn`t mean he had to have been tight with him. Why should a grown man stay at home with his mom when she wasn`t in any particular danger of being killed? Her death was unexpected and he was saddened by it, so he went to her funeral. His younger brother on the other hand obviously died in the line of being a gangbanger, which is to be expected. CJ didn`t want to have any of that, he didn`t want to continue down that path and end up like his brother because he was smarter than that, so he packed up his bags and left and I commend him for it. He didn`t ask his mother to birth him in a gangsta ghetto with three other siblings and no money for even shoes for all of them, so he owed her nothing. They were all probably accidental children with different baby daddies as his mother was whoring around. Too bad he gets manipulated by his dumbass brother who wants to continue running a racketeering criminal organization even though they own a casino! And he buys that "hood for life" bullsh*t. I would have been like, look man, I saved your ass from jail and nearly died for it, you`ve caused me nothing but trouble my whole entire life, here`s a million dollars and now you and I are done.

 

As for the Catalina thing, I`ve been manipulated by a devil of a woman when I was younger, too. It happens once to most people I think.

[Paul723]

 

 

OK, now don't get me wrong now. I love playing GTA San Andreas. But out of all the protagonists of the whole GTA series, CJ was by far the second weakest protagonist (the weakest being Vic). First of all, he lets his little brother die for some obscure reason, and instead of acknowledging his mistake and taking the diatribe from his brother when that happened, he ran to the east coast in a fit of pique and never returned. He let his family struggle in the hood against the Ballas while he was in LC stealing cars with Mr. Leone's son. CJ didn't give a crap about his family until his mom got killed. That's when he went back to giving a sh*t about his family. He would've never went back to his home city had his mom not been killed. That's some selfish sh*t. He was only thinking about himself until his mom's demise. Then he lets almost everyone walk on top of him like he was an old doormat someone could wipe their wet shoes onto. He snuck inside a rapper's mansion and killed his manager because some wannabe gangster told him to. He begged for mercy when a Colombian bitch pointed a gun to his temple. On top of all that, he is completely querulous throughout the whole storyline (example: he whined to Toreno after the latter told him to destroy a few jets and ships, talking about "I nearly lost my life for you" when he did other sh*t that was far more perilous). And even after he owned a car show room in SF and a huge casino in LV, he still goes back to the hood just because his provincial brother told him to instead of getting him to look at the bigger picture. I'm sorry to all you fans of CJ, but as much as I love the game, CJ's my second least favorite protagonist of the whole series.

Just because he had a brother doesn`t mean he had to have been tight with him. Why should a grown man stay at home with his mom when she wasn`t in any particular danger of being killed? Her death was unexpected and he was saddened by it, so he went to her funeral. His younger brother on the other hand obviously died in the line of being a gangbanger, which is to be expected. CJ didn`t want to have any of that, he didn`t want to continue down that path and end up like his brother because he was smarter than that, so he packed up his bags and left and I commend him for it. He didn`t ask his mother to birth him in a gangsta ghetto with three other siblings and no money for even shoes for all of them, so he owed her nothing. They were all probably accidental children with different baby daddies as his mother was whoring around. Too bad he gets manipulated by his dumbass brother who wants to continue running a racketeering criminal organization even though they own a casino! And he buys that "hood for life" bullsh*t. I would have been like, look man, I saved your ass from jail and nearly died for it, you`ve caused me nothing but trouble my whole entire life, here`s a million dollars and now you and I are done.

 

As for the Catalina thing, I`ve been manipulated by a devil of a woman when I was younger, too. It happens once to most people I think.

I never said he had to be tight with his brother, nor did I insinuate that he should stay home with his mother. I'm just saying that CJ was being extremely selfish. He went to LC committing crimes of his own while the other members of his hometown were struggling and fighting against two gangs. His mom wasn't in any particular danger of being killed? They live in the f*cking hood for crying out loud. Besides the Ballas and Vagos, that place is filled with crack addicts and dope dealers For all we know, Beverly could've became a crack addict and died an insidious death before she even had a chance to get shot by drive-by shooting. Also, you say that CJ left because he didn't want to live the life of gangbanging and didn't want to end up like his brother. Well answer this question for me. If that was the reason CJ left, then why would he go to what is known to be prehaps the worst place in America? Explain that. So gangbanging is wrong yet car theft and robberies in LC is fine? Umm...ok. Edited May 8, 2015 by Paul723