gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I never said that all Blacks hate Whites and that all Whites hate Blacks. All I said is that it's not too far out there to say Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks. Anyone can tell you that. So saying that Blacks don't view the people who oppress them as enemies is kind of a ridiculous statement. This is ridiculous. Now I remember why I left the forum. God knows why I came back. Myron is a hell of a fire starter. Bravo Edited August 13, 2014 by gtamann123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I never said that all Blacks hate Whites and that all Whites hate Blacks. All I said is that it's not too far out there to say Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks. Anyone can tell you that. So saying that Blacks don't view the people who oppress them as enemies is kind of a ridiculous statement. So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? Is that what you're telling me? sigh. So now you're side stepping what you said? Come back to me when you have a real argument, can back up your idiotic opinions, and can tell a straight truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I never said that all Blacks hate Whites and that all Whites hate Blacks. All I said is that it's not too far out there to say Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks. Anyone can tell you that. So saying that Blacks don't view the people who oppress them as enemies is kind of a ridiculous statement. So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? Is that what you're telling me? sigh. So now you're side stepping what you said? Come back to me when you have a real argument, can back up your idiotic opinions, and can tell a straight truth. You are completely side stepping the other two points I raised in my post that question the idea of a Systematic Conspiracy of White supremacy. And I don't recall ever saying that "All Whites hate Blacks and all Blacks hate Whites." which is what you are accusing me of saying. I feel that what I wrote was pretty clear. All I said was "Blacks hate Whites just as much if not more than the other way around. I guess I could see how that could be taken as saying "All Blacks hate Whites" but that not what I meant by it. What I meant is that there is probably a similar percentage of Black people who hold negative opinions of White people as there are White people who hold negative opinions of Black people if not more. Edited August 13, 2014 by gtamann123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. Edited August 13, 2014 by GTAVfan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. That's a bolder claim in such a serious discussion than BASKETBALL. In a discussion like this please come back with something more fruitful and coherent. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. That's a bolder claim in such a serious discussion than BASKETBALL. In a discussion like this please come back with something more fruitful and coherent. Thank You. You still haven't responded to my other two questions on the matter so I can only assume you want to engage in an Ad Hominem argument and not an actual debate on the issues. So here you go: Please return when you have gone back to night school and gotten your GED and can stage a coherent argument on the actual subject matter instead of just trying to make personal attacks at me and how I word my statements (and twisting my words as well). I'm out. Have fun everyone. Edited August 13, 2014 by gtamann123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. That's a bolder claim in such a serious discussion than BASKETBALL. In a discussion like this please come back with something more fruitful and coherent. Thank You. You still haven't responded to my other two questions on the matter so I can only assume you want to engage in an Ad Hominem argument and not an actual debate on the issues. So here you go: Please return when you have gone back to night school and gotten your GED and can stage a coherent argument on the actual subject matter instead of just trying to make personal attacks at me and how I word my statements (and twisting my words as well). I'm out. Have fun everyone. When you actually present them as an argument instead of editing them in like an immature child then I'll will answer them. You see you made a bold statement in your OP that I wanted to address first then you started edited everything in. That's not how a debate works, son. gtamann123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralStar Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 DOWN WITH WHITEYS!!! Moonshield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. That's a bolder claim in such a serious discussion than BASKETBALL. In a discussion like this please come back with something more fruitful and coherent. Thank You. You still haven't responded to my other two questions on the matter so I can only assume you want to engage in an Ad Hominem argument and not an actual debate on the issues. So here you go: Please return when you have gone back to night school and gotten your GED and can stage a coherent argument on the actual subject matter instead of just trying to make personal attacks at me and how I word my statements (and twisting my words as well). I'm out. Have fun everyone. When you actually present them as an argument instead of editing them in like an immature child then I'll will answer them. You see you made a bold statement in your OP that I wanted to address first then you started edited everything in. That's not how a debate works, son. I'm done debating with you I just wanted to say that I edited those points in immediately after I posted the original. You hadn't even replied by the time I was already editing in those points. I posted the OP and then as it was posting I decided I should add a little bit more in for the sake of discussion. I don't really see how thats childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So you did not just say, 'It's pretty much accepted that Black hates Whites and Whites hate Blacks'? No, he said 'it is pretty much accepted that Blacks hate Whites just as much as Whites hate Blacks' If you can't engage in a discussion without twisting someone else's points they you shouldn't be discussing. I tried to copy and paste EXACTLY what he said at the time but it wasn't working. I'm trying to understand the quoting system. Either way, my point still holds on what he said without any facts to back it up. I didn't really try to make a factual claim all I was trying to say is that most people would agree with that. It's like saying most people think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time. There no need to conduct a poll or do research to make that claim. In hind-site I could have worded it differently but oh well. That's a bolder claim in such a serious discussion than BASKETBALL. In a discussion like this please come back with something more fruitful and coherent. Thank You. You still haven't responded to my other two questions on the matter so I can only assume you want to engage in an Ad Hominem argument and not an actual debate on the issues. So here you go: Please return when you have gone back to night school and gotten your GED and can stage a coherent argument on the actual subject matter instead of just trying to make personal attacks at me and how I word my statements (and twisting my words as well). I'm out. Have fun everyone. When you actually present them as an argument instead of editing them in like an immature child then I'll will answer them. You see you made a bold statement in your OP that I wanted to address first then you started edited everything in. That's not how a debate works, son. I'm done debating with you I just wanted to say that I edited those points in immediately after I posted the original. You hadn't even replied by the time I was already editing in those points. I posted the OP and then as it was posting I decided I should add a little bit more in for the sake of discussion. I don't really see how thats childish. Now you're lying. I replied right after your post just like I'm replying after you post now. You have all the opportunity to debate your points now but you rather play the 'I'm going to bed' game like a loser. Either you just present your argument AGAINST what I said in my OP or go to your bed time already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) You joined today. I would show the well respected members like EphemeralStar a little respect first off. She's correct. We shouldn't have quote trained like that I'm responsible as well. I left the argument because It's pointless. You refused to reply to my points so its only safe to assume you don't have enough knowledge to actually debate. And I clicked the edit button immediately after I posted and I'm not sure why you keep getting hung up on that tiny little detail that means nothing. And I did reply to your OP by saying it makes absolutely no sense to say that Black people don't hate White people despite having reason to. Which I believe is what you are trying to say. Anyways this is pointless. I can't debate the points because you refuse to reply to them or present anything worthy of debate and instead just want to engage in a personal debate rather than actually debate the subject matter. Farewell to you sir! Edited August 13, 2014 by gtamann123 LSSDLSPD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You joined today. I would show the well respected members like EphemeralStar a little respect first off. She's correct. We shouldn't have quote trained like that I'm responsible as well. I left the argument because It's pointless. You refused to reply to my points so its only safe to assume you don't have enough knowledge to actually debate. And I clicked the edit button immediately after I posted and I'm not sure why you keep getting hung up on that tiny little detail that means nothing. And I did reply to your OP by saying it makes absolutely no sense to say that Black people don't hate White people despite having reason to. Which I believe is what you are trying to say. Anyways this is pointless. I can't debate the points because you refuse to reply to them or present anything worthy of debate and instead just want to engage in a personal debate rather than actually debate the subject matter. If that's the ''well respected'' I would hate to see the trolls. Anyway enough about her, so why not present your points again? Start out fresh and see if you can debate me like an adult instead of a coward. We haven't even begun. Go to bed like I said if you're going to waste space for other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being the one who can't debate like an adult when you are the only child here. And walking away from a pointless Internet debate does not make you a coward. It's the f*cking Internet for Christ sake not a battlefield. I posted the points once and you refused to reply to them. Presumably because you can't argue them. But I am going to be the adult here and leaver this sh*tfest before it gets locked. So as I said before. Farewell sir. I wish you the best in Night School and hope that GED comes sooner rather than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being the one who can't debate like an adult when you are the only child here. And walking away from a pointless Internet debate does not make you a coward. It's the f*cking Internet for Christ sake not a battlefield. I posted the points once and you refused to reply to them. Presumably because you can't argue them. But I am going to be the adult here and leaver this sh*tfest before it gets locked. So as I said before. Farewell sir. I wish you the best in Night School and hope that GED comes sooner rather than later Ok, whatever makes you SLEEP AT NIGHT. You're obviously not intellectual enough to debate me, I understand. Just go to your bed already. You're daddy must be yelling at you to go to bed by now in that apartment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GTAVfan17- you kind of destroyed all of your attempts to establish intellectual credibility and superiority when you decided it was prudent to make a "your daddy" comment. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GTAVfan17- you kind of destroyed all of your attempts to establish intellectual credibility and superiority when you decided it was prudent to make a "your daddy" comment. He said him and his daddy were in an apartment in the Grumpy topic. Nothing but FACTS here mod. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralStar Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GTAVfan17- you kind of destroyed all of your attempts to establish intellectual credibility and superiority when you decided it was prudent to make a "your daddy" comment. And when he used an insult that 12 year olds would use. "Whatever helps you sleep at night" Lololol. sivispacem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sivispacem Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GTAVfan17- you kind of destroyed all of your attempts to establish intellectual credibility and superiority when you decided it was prudent to make a "your daddy" comment. He said him and his daddy were in an apartment in the Grumpy topic. Nothing but FACTS here mod. Thank You.What, so it's categorical fact that he was being yelled at? What, do you live in the apartment below? Funny idea of "facts" you have and still does nothing to exactly enhanced your claims of intellectual superiority. But that was pretty questionable anyway given that you felt the need to entirely mis-characterise other people's arguments so unless you're willing to contribute something worthy of actual discussion I'd suggest moving on. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 GTAVfan17- you kind of destroyed all of your attempts to establish intellectual credibility and superiority when you decided it was prudent to make a "your daddy" comment. He said him and his daddy were in an apartment in the Grumpy topic. Nothing but FACTS here mod. Thank You. What, so it's categorical fact that he was being yelled at? What, do you live in the apartment below? Funny idea of "facts" you have and still does nothing to exactly enhanced your claims of intellectual superiority. But that was pretty questionable anyway given that you felt the need to entirely mis-characterise other people's arguments so unless you're willing to contribute something worthy of actual discussion I'd suggest moving on. But mod it's kinda hard to yell over a forum, ya know? No, I'm 17 in college and I do not live in an apartment, sir. I wasn't trying to have enhanced claim of any kind of intellectual superiority, sir. I wasn't 'mis-characteriZing' anyone, sir. I just wanted him to present his arguments for an official debate instead of editing them in. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 'mis-characteriZing'Did you just try and correct my noble, righteous and pure British English spelling with disgusting American English tongue-filth? I should ban you outright for that. Next you'll be forgetting "colour" has a "u" in it and calling aluminium "alooominum". EphemeralStar, GTA_stu, Smith John and 5 others 8 AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAVfan17 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 'mis-characteriZing' Did you just try and correct my noble, righteous and pure British English spelling with disgusting American English tongue-filth? I should ban you outright for that. No, SIR. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EQUIN0X Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 'mis-characteriZing' Did you just try and correct my noble, righteous and pure British English spelling with disgusting American English tongue-filth? I should ban you outright for that. Next you'll be forgetting "colour" has a "u" in it and calling aluminium "alooominum". Detective Phelps, sivispacem and GTA_stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunWrath Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He assaulted the cop and tried to get his gun away from him... Yeah but you know how people are these days man. It's immediately racism or some conspiracy against the black man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GrandMaster Smith Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) You guys should take the off topic banter into PM's or something, I'm more interested in reading about what's going on than back and forth bickering.. I just read the FAA shut down the airspace above Ferguson and aren't allowing media helicopters or cameras in the area. http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html Edited August 13, 2014 by GrandMaster Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Your FAA link is 404. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMaster Smith Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 That's strange.. it doesn't work for me when linked directly from gtaf but works fine when I copy and paste it to the address bar. Here's an article on it- http://time.com/3105035/ferguson-faa-no-fly-zone/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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