Precise Reasons why GTA V is better than GTA IV

[lolleroz]

I got one thing GTA V has that pretty much makes everything GTA IV did better totally pointless and insignificant. GTA V HAS UPDATED GAMEPLAY!

After playing GTA V and going back to GTA IV, it felt like a total downgrade. Niko controlled awkwardly and animated even worse, driving feels like the roads are made of ice and shooting had the worst lock on i have ever experienced in a 3rd person shooter. You could argue GTA IV had a better story or say its better just because of some insignificant details like turning on the engine, its still a game that aged poorly and a game i would not bother coming back to since GTA V (gameplay wise) is a step up in almost every direction. The only reason I would come back is to play the story (which ill admit is better than V) or explore LC.

 

And let's face it guys, the only reason you are defending GTA IV is to spite GTA V much like how people defended SA just to spite IV. And I feel confident people will start saying "GTA V was way better" when GTA VI comes out. Now would we stop comparing the GTA games already? Because there is not one single unbiased opinion in the entirety of the GTA Forums.

lol just no...I play IV/EFLC way more often than V, especially cause shooting in V just feels akward, and the driving feels like you're playing a goddamn NFS game, IV with handling mod is perfect, but even unmodded I prefer slide-y cars to glued cars with insta max speed...I agree the cover system sucks and the movement could be improved though, although the second not exactly, I mean you bounce off a f*cking wall 3 times before you can climb and scale it, what's up with that? and the cover system is usually useless since the AI can hit you from a mile away just cause your hand is slightly sticking out of the cover

Edited August 15, 2014 by lolleroz

[kevin de santa]

Yes some people around here don't get the meaning opinion OT tbh I preferred v story I just didn't like niko the American dream and I hated most of the side character particularly little Jacob bruice. I much prefer three protagonist country side golf and tennis over Niko liberty city bowling and cop missions but hey that's just my OPINION

[Aleph-Zero]

As i said someday somewhere, it's safe to say GTA V is objectively better than GTA IV, but not subjectively. That is for each one to decide.

 

Every new installment of GTA has shown to be objectively better than the previous in most ways.

[josephene123]

As i said someday somewhere, it's safe to say GTA V is objectively better than GTA IV, but not subjectively. That is for each one to decide.

 

Every new installment of GTA has shown to be objectively better than the previous in most ways.

No, it's not safe to say that because there isn't an objective definition of what makes a better game. Graphics are better and it's smoother overall but that doesn't make a game good, just one of the factors. Pretty much everything else is subjective, I would say I prefer IVs physics because it's more realistic and others would say they prefer Vs physics because they're more arcade. Etc etc.

 

On topic, the police line of sight idea was brilliant - execution horrible, mind.

Cars go faster

I can't think of anything much else

Edited August 15, 2014 by josephene123

[DaCosta]

It's weird because I thought a huge proportion of people weren't satisfied with GTA IV because it was too dull, monotone and with a lack of variety of landscape and vehicles and manic action.

 

GTA V is far more colourful, varied in terrain, and filled with fun and crazy action events, far closer to GTA San Andreas than IV ever tried to be.

 

But a lot of feedback on the forums is that GTA IV was closer to the game people wanted, despite so many people asking for a more San Andreas-like game.

 

I bet if GTA V had come out in 2008, and GTA IV (Liberty City) in 2013 (switched round the games releases) this forum wouldn't even exist people would be so furious!

[Facepalm38]

Rusty f-ing Tractor!

[Kampret]

Rusty f-ing Tractor!

 

That stupid tractor when you

 

 

Didn't steal the cash from the last Epsilon mission

 

 

?

[Facepalm38]

 

Rusty f-ing Tractor!

 

That stupid tractor when you

 

 

Didn't steal the cash from the last Epsilon mission

 

 

?

 

Yes. You can also find it without doing the mission.

[kj2022]

Things I prefer in V over IV... hmm. I'd go with car selection, where there's a few cars I'd like in there which aren't, the car variety and styling is great. The graphics, despite looking a little over vibrant on PS3/360 (possibly my tv) are breathtaking at times, IV still holds it's own at certain times, like in the night, and rain. The little details, they may not be everywhere, but the things that have stood out to me, like the better lighting on cop cars, is a little better than IV. Where I love IV's story, and probably always will, there are some better missions in V, however those missions are few and far between.

[CriticalCrox]

Two reasons that came first into my head are big countryside and better vehicles handling. But GTA V is obviously better in every aspect.

[Fan GTA III]

This is my full list:

1.Better Graphics

2.Countryside

3.Animals(still terrible A.I and terrible linear scripted events)

4.Airplanes

5.Better Missions

7.Bigger World

8.Tunning

9.Better Player control

10.Parachute

11.Underwater

12.Better Swimming

13.Better Ocean Waves

14.Better Ester eggs

15.Better Car acceleration

16.Golf mini game

17.Tenis Mini Game

18.Trevor penis

19.Weapon customization

20.Better Car Driving( Nothing subjective here. I am a driver in real life and I can say that gta V driving is a lot more close to reality than IV's driving. Isn't even a real debate here. Who says that IV is more realistic than V when it comes to driving means that he has never driven a car in real life. )

21.Better Guns

22.Better Motorcycle controls(gta IV was a disaster when it comes with motorcycle controls)

23.Random events

24.Better Online(still I hate it)

25.Scuba diving

26.Submarine

27.Jet sky

28.Better animations

29.Ragdolling option when you jump

30. Better clothing system

31.Tattoo

32. Special abilities for each character ( Slow motion when you drive as franklin and shooting as M )

33. You can talk with NPC ( though not too much and every talk is ending in a fight, police call or Run off) very poor feature, but still better than GTA IV WHEN you didn't have an option at all.

34.One punch KO system (very realistic)

35.Better Cover system

36.Better phone camera with some nice features

37.Better Draw distance

38.Airports has a meaning this time.

39.Cable Cars(stupid that we can't have a view inside them)

40. NPC'S A.I

41.Wind system

42.Better strip clubs with better features

43.Triathlons

44.Your clothes have animations ! Your clothes become wet and draining into the ground surface . Also your clothes are moving on you when you control the player. The wet and moving animation for clothes are dynamic animations !

45.Quick save

46.Gas canister( though isn't very good implemented, still better than nothing)

47. Better and more utility vehicles

48.Bikes

49.Better/more fluid climbing system for ladders

50. More ladders

51. Better clouds

52. Puddles are forming when is raining

53.RPG skillset system for characters (though Gta Sa has much better RPG system than GTAV, actually GTAV RPG is terrible, still is better than nothing(gta IV).

54.You can buy hangars on airports to store your Airplanes, Cars, tanks etc....

55.Pet system

56.Haircuts

57.Hunting(though IT's is poorly implemented, it's better than nothing)

58.Lighting

Edited August 16, 2014 by Fan GTA III

[daliakiller]

Car customizing.. i really would love it in IV.

Edited August 16, 2014 by daliakiller

[kevin de santa]

I think v is just a overall more complete polished game we have planes and cars stocks to invest our money in. Unlike Iv where Niko had all this money with nothing to spend it on. My Michael is down to 2 million out of 34 and that's just buying and modding cars buying a tank and businesses. But hey it would be boring if we all have the same opinion

[iainspad]

Better story IMO

Way better story; as much as it was over quickly it has much better pacing than IV did, and frankly it's a perfect fit as a GTA story, IV was not.

[Geeteeaifive]

Because it isn't as serious. I like gta series for their joke on the whole crime thing. When in fact it's a very dark place.

[Geralt of Rivia]

:

 

- Vehicle variety

 

- Map

 

- Gameplay

 

- Weapons

 

- Customization

Edited August 17, 2014 by Barefoot Tiger
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[Stringer Bell]

everything is better

 

GTA V story isn't all that but i found IV's to be boring personally...GTA V's mission are allot better, IV were too repetitive

 

4 just lacked side stuff to do outside of bowling and watching the same Katt Williams stand up

 

for a next gen game i expected it to be SA on roids...but they basically took everything out of 4 that made SA fun

Edited August 16, 2014 by Poohdini

[OneManCrimeWave]

- Better Story: While GTA IV had a more dramatic story (one that I couldn't get into) I felt that GTA V had a great story that was easy to get into. The fast pacing was also handle pretty well.

 

- Realistic Characters: I absolutely love how R* was able to portray realistic characters in a realistic manner, even through over-the-top scenarios. From a washed up, and all around p-o-s real estate agent such as Josh Bernstein, to the superficial and scandalous power hungry cult leader Cris Formage, these characters are prime examples of people in the real world that you should be quite mindful of and maintain a safe distance from.

 

- Michael, Franklin and Trevor: While the IV era's protagonist bore me, (Luis just annoyed me), I actually adore V's protagonist (even though I can't stand Michael). I wanted to dive into there psyche while playing as them and do things that would fit their personalities. I also adored how R* could handle their personality disorders, (Franklin suffering from psychotic depression, Trevor suffering from borderline personality disorder, and Michael suffering from narcissistic personality disorder).

 

There is definitely a bunch more to list here, but some of you have already listed it.

[Kampret]

 

Better story IMO

Way better story; as much as it was over quickly it has much better pacing than IV did, and frankly it's a perfect fit as a GTA story, IV was not.

 

 

In your opinion. What's so fitting about GTA when you're being forced to be a Fed slave?

I mean, come on, what heists in V that doesn't involve the FIB? AFAIK only 2, Jewel Store heist and the UD heist.

[iainspad]

 

 

Better story IMO

 

Way better story; as much as it was over quickly it has much better pacing than IV did, and frankly it's a perfect fit as a GTA story, IV was not.

 

In your opinion. What's so fitting about GTA when you're being forced to be a Fed slave?

I mean, come on, what heists in V that doesn't involve the FIB? AFAIK only 2, Jewel Store heist and the UD heist.

Agreed, while what I said is subjective I find doing major high risk crime even for the maaannnn is far more fitting a story in a world as crazy as GTA than a story so focused on the emotion and consequences of others yet somehow petty crime is a part of that. I like emotion, but IV was so held down on it it just felt like I wasn't playing GTA really, while V goes back to its roots somewhat and has much more than that.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Car customizing.. i really would love it in IV.

 

It's always bothered me how this wasn't included in GTA IV especially since Brucie owns his own workshop. A really good perk for hanging out with him would've been a discount on parts or special parts.

[S1N0D3UTSCHT3K]

i spent this weekend so far driving and exploring around VC, SA, and IV

 

wow they're so bad

 

there are like 10 buildings copy/pasted and the world maps are actually incredibly small

 

i had no idea SA was so small, i guess that's the benefit of poor draw distance haha

 

so the precise reason why GTA V is better than IV is because it has a far more detailed and realistic world and far far more unique buildings and world detail

[MeatSim64]

When roaming the map, you don't have friends constantly calling you to hang out. You can call them yourself if you want to hang with them.

[Official General]

* Graphics and visual effects.

* Huge map.

* Inclusion of countryside and wilderness.

* Ability to hold up and rob stores.

* Random cop v criminal shootouts.

* Car customization.

 

That's it. I was expecting the list to be much bigger before I played the game, what a big shame.

[kevin de santa]

Its just a all round better game IMO better story better gameplay better characters better map. Animals I could go on all day

[Geralt of Rivia]

* Graphics and visual effects.

* Huge map.

* Inclusion of countryside and wilderness.

* Ability to hold up and rob stores.

* Random cop v criminal shootouts.

* Car customization.

 

That's it. I was expecting the list to be much bigger before I played the game, what a big shame.

No planes, weapon variety/number of weapons, or weapon customization? Edited August 17, 2014 by TheMasterfocker

[Official General]

 

* Graphics and visual effects.

* Huge map.

* Inclusion of countryside and wilderness.

* Ability to hold up and rob stores.

* Random cop v criminal shootouts.

* Car customization.

 

That's it. I was expecting the list to be much bigger before I played the game, what a big shame.

No planes, weapon variety/number of weapons, or weapon customization?

 

 

Planes are cool, but IV still had helicopters - as long as I could fly somehow I did not mind that IV had no planes, so I did not bother to list planes. Anyway, there is not much use for planes in V anyway, there is only one city. What's the point of flying endlessly around the countryside ? I'm not too fussed about this.

 

V may have had much more weapons in terms of numbers and variety, but there was many things that I did not like about it's weapon system. As I've said a million times, the most popular brand name pistols like Glock, 357 revolver, and Colt M911 are nowhere to be seen (not that toy-looking Colt in the update). The gunshot sounds were not that great, they sounded all too similar and lacked that powerful punch. As for customization for weapons ? Black guns were not even black, they were grey and sometimes even dark green. IV may have had a smaller amount of weapons, but it was done much better there, it had much better gunshot sounds and better-looking weaponry.

 

@ iainspad

 

 

Agreed, while what I said is subjective I find doing major high risk crime even for the maaannnn is far more fitting a story in a world as crazy as GTA than a story so focused on the emotion and consequences of others yet somehow petty crime is a part of that. I like emotion, but IV was so held down on it it just felt like I wasn't playing GTA really, while V goes back to its roots somewhat and has much more than that.

 

I totally disagree with this. Doing major high-risk crime is definitely suited to GTA - when most of it is focused on doing it for the benefit of yourself, organized crime and gangs. When you do most of it for law enforcement and government agencies, that's what begins to make a GTA game feel unlike typically GTA, and this happened for the first time in the series with V. Niko may have had emotions and all that, but he was still a professional hitman with a cold, brutal streak to his character, he still had major scores to settle, he still did high-risk major crimes and most importantly he extensive contact, dealings and conflict with various organized crime groups and gangs - I mean Niko was involved in Mafia sit-downs, Russian mob feuds, major drug deals brokered by Hispanic drug syndicates, black gangsta hood politics, crazy heists with Irish gangsters, all for his own end gains - that's the kind of stuff that makes GTA feel like GTA. Not working for the feds for more than half the story without (not getting paid to make it worse), doing silly US Marine-style stunts and capturing weapons of mass destruction in name of fighting terrorism, all that crap in V felt so unlike GTA. Each to their own, but I really fail to see why you felt V was GTA going back to it's roots, because it was the total opposite. With V, I really felt I was playing Splinter Cell, a bit of COD and maybe MGS.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Official General

[Smith John]

Another thing V done better than IV in regards to weapons was that the guns in V actually had moving parts. After playing so much Max Payne 3 and seeing how awesome the guns looked and sounded, I was really hoping and anticipating "blowback", and to my delight, we got it. It just gives the weapons a feeling of more realism and power. I also prefer the sounds of V's guns; they're much more realistic than the "movie" type sounds in IV. One thing that really let me down in SA was the awful cap-gun sounding shots and cartoony flashes; it was actually a downgrade from its predecessors- III and VC- which shouldn't have been the case. But yeah, the blowback animation in V is a very welcome introduction to the series.

[Rockstargames691]

Everything except for car damage which was a little bit more detailed in 4 and I think the euphoria was just a little bit better in 4 too but other that everything was better in 5!

[..GhosT]

While i prefer V, i hate a few features which i preferred in IV.

 

Like..

health regeneration

no jumping on the spot

no hanging onto things because you instantly climb

cars explode if they land on anything but their wheels

flipping cars while being upside down

the multiplayer was better in IV for some points like free roaming

you die by like 3 pistol shots but the enemies however survive multiple carbine shots

enemys always aimbot to your head, they hit you perfectly in a moving car at all times

the cops are overaggressive

 

I could go on and write a whole book of things i dont like but.. no.

The game itself is too easy overall, in my opinion.

 

Please read the OP, this topic is not about things you preferred in IV

Edited August 17, 2014 by Barefoot Tiger