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Is Claude the most overrated protagonist in GTA history?

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Pooyan Cyrus

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

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Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

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Pooyan Cyrus

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

Do you want me to go further?

Search 'Tommy Vercetti and Toni Montana similarities'. Lots of copied or influenced dialogs, copied clothing and style, similar Mansion, lots of plot similarities.

None of other GTA protagonist had this much similarities to a real life movie character or person

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Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

I'm sorry, but anyone who calls Tommy a complete copy/paste/ripoff of Tony Montana have no idea what the f*ck they're talking about. Tony was an uneducated, impulsive Cuban immigrant while Tommy, while being hot-tempered most of the time, was actually much more intelligent and actually took time to contrive his plans before implementing them. Plus unlike Tony, Tommy never became addicted to any type of drug, nor did he actually use any INTENTIONALLY. So I don't know what the f*ck you're talking about he is a copy/paste of Tony Montana, because personality-wise, they're completely different. The only thing they have in common are short tempers. That's it. If you don't like Tommy, that's fine. Not everyone has to like the same character, but please re-watch Scarface before posting bullsh*t illusions.

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Tommy isn't a copy/paste of Tony Montana, more like less interesting, simplified version of him.

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GTA19somethin

 

 

 

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

Do you want me to go further?

Search 'Tommy Vercetti and Toni Montana similarities'. Lots of copied or influenced dialogs, copied clothing and style, similar Mansion, lots of plot similarities.

None of other GTA protagonist had this much similarities to a real life movie character or person

 

They're called similarities, and that's not at all the least bit tantamount to being a copy/paste/ripoff of someone. Like the other user said, Tony and Tommy are different personality wise. Tommy has his own phrases. He doesn't need to take from another character. Now if he were to get high on his own drugs and repeat Tony's phrases, then that would indeed make him a copy/paste/ripoff of Tony Montana. He may be kind of overrated, but by no means is he a copy of Scarface's main character.

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wiizardii

 

 

 

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

Do you want me to go further?

Search 'Tommy Vercetti and Toni Montana similarities'. Lots of copied or influenced dialogs, copied clothing and style, similar Mansion, lots of plot similarities.

None of other GTA protagonist had this much similarities to a real life movie character or person

 

Well, you are right on one point. Simply because VC was heavily based on the Scarface movie, Tommy is inspired by Toni Montana. But he is not a copy paste of him... Trust me. Watch Scarface, you will know what I mean.

^ Here you come again with your pointless argument, trying to show everyone how clever and cool you are. Get over it.

Pointless arguments? Pointless how? Explain to me how it is literally POINTLESS.

 

 

If someone is pointless, its you, stop stalking me because I owned you on an argument in the Protagonist fist fight thread. And don't come to me with sh*tty stuff like this comment, you come to someone with no argument at all try to look like a tough guy... And please, for god's sake: drop the tough guy act. Its getting old. And trying to show everyone how clever and cool I am? I am only stating facts, something that you can do for sh*t.

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universetwisters

 

 

 

 

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

Do you want me to go further?

Search 'Tommy Vercetti and Toni Montana similarities'. Lots of copied or influenced dialogs, copied clothing and style, similar Mansion, lots of plot similarities.

None of other GTA protagonist had this much similarities to a real life movie character or person

 

Well, you are right on one point. Simply because VC was heavily based on the Scarface movie, Tommy is inspired by Toni Montana. But he is not a copy paste of him... Trust me. Watch Scarface, you will know what I mean.

 

 

How exactly did Scarface "heavily" influence VC? The only similarities I could point out are the mansions, some of the missions, and the fact that both main characters wear Hawaiian shirts. You should give this thread a read to debunk that.

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Pooyan Cyrus

^^ The fact is that, no other GTA game had this level of similarity to another entertainment media content.

 

Point of my post was this, briefly:

Tommy is so much overrated, as a character who's not original.

 

Let's face it, Tommy isn't really an original character.

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^^ The fact is that, no other GTA game had this level of similarity to another entertainment media content.

 

Point of my post was this, briefly:

Tommy is so much overrated, as a character who's not original.

 

Let's face it, Tommy isn't really an original character.

 

Have you ever compared San Andreas to Boyz in the Hood? Or TLAD to Sons of Anarchy? You can't really call a homage or nod to something "unoriginal".

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(1 is best)

 

1. Micheal (just a well made character)

2. Trevor (insanely random and funny)

3. Niko (interesting backstory, he's a hypocrite though)

4. Tommy (dito)

5. every other protagonist

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Pooyan Cyrus

 

 

^^ The fact is that, no other GTA game had this level of similarity to another entertainment media content.

 

Point of my post was this, briefly:

Tommy is so much overrated, as a character who's not original.

 

Let's face it, Tommy isn't really an original character.

Have you ever compared San Andreas to Boyz in the Hood? Or TLAD to Sons of Anarchy? You can't really call a homage or nod to something "unoriginal".

 

level of similarity

 

 

Topic's title is saying Claude is most overrated protag in GTA history.

I say 'no'. Tommy and Niko are.

Simple.

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wiizardii

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trevor is definitely the most overrated in my opinion. Sure, he gets his fair share of hate, but a lot of V fans seem to think he's the only one that matters.

Actually I consider Tommy V. the most overrated but sometimes I think Trevor is about to overthrow Tommy from his throne.

 

Tommy is really overrated in all GTA communities, including GTAF. He was nothing but a complete copy/paste of Toni Montana.

He was good, but not Best GTA Protagonist, as VC fanboys and enthusiasts say.

 

Copy paste of toni montana? Do your research...

 

 

one. Toni Montana became a psychotic drug addict (Cocaine, to be more specific). Tommy on the other hand, is a smart man with class, but he can get angry fast in a psychotic way, and never got addicted to any type of drug.

 

two, Toni is from cuban heritage, and in the movie he recently moved from Cuba to USA. Tommy on the other hand, is from italian heritage, and recently came to Vice City from LC to do a drug deal that went bust, so he was forced to stay in VC.

 

Three, Toni died at the end of his story in Scarface. Tommy never died or got killed at all in his story.

 

four, Toni killed his own best friend in cold blood. Tommy never killed anyone he trusted and had respect (except for Lance vance, who betrayed him at the worst case scenario)

 

five, Toni got his mansion and drug lord status and business up very fast, and rushed it. Tommy, went slowly, he had to buy other business' to make money, and he had to do alot of other stuff (Wich is pretty much the centre plot of VC.)

 

 

 

Do you want me to go further?

Search 'Tommy Vercetti and Toni Montana similarities'. Lots of copied or influenced dialogs, copied clothing and style, similar Mansion, lots of plot similarities.

None of other GTA protagonist had this much similarities to a real life movie character or person

 

Well, you are right on one point. Simply because VC was heavily based on the Scarface movie, Tommy is inspired by Toni Montana. But he is not a copy paste of him... Trust me. Watch Scarface, you will know what I mean.

 

 

How exactly did Scarface "heavily" influence VC? The only similarities I could point out are the mansions, some of the missions, and the fact that both main characters wear Hawaiian shirts. You should give this thread a read to debunk that.

 

Well, the last mission in VC is also inspired by the events of the finale of Scarface. And, of course hot girls in both the movie and the game.

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Boyz2Society

For crying the f*ck out loud! Can we please stop f*cking digressing and get back on topic? This is not about other protagonists. This is about Claude. When GTA III was released, were any of you talking about him being a badass? Were any of you praising him during the time too? That's what happened after he appeared again in GTA SA. People are now treating him as if he is one of the other protagonists who have real personalities (which is why the guy who called Tommy's personality unoriginal is full of sh*t) when he was supposed to be a nameless character you control, so therefore he's overrated.

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polaris23

According to you guys, ALL the protagonists are overrated!

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Pooyan Cyrus

According to you guys, ALL the protagonists are overrated!

A funny ending to this thread.

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Paul723

All the GTA protagonists (except for Toni and Vic, the worst protagonists ever) are overrated. Claude is overrated for the reason the OP said. Tommy is overrated because while he's a badass, ppl praise him as if he's a Mafia God. CJ is overrated because ppl only like him for his customizations and wouldn't give two sh*ts about him if GTA SA didn't have them. And Niko and Trevor are self-explanatory. I know this guy isn't technically a GTA protagonist, but IMO, Jimmy Hopkins is better than all of them put together.

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Mr_Leone

Toni Cipriani is very underrated. His arc greatly affects Liberty City. Sal and Toni had good chemistry, and the game pulled you in as a Mafia hitman basically. Toni kills a lot of storyline characters in his game. The game also introduced a ton of side missions. His mother puts out a hit on him because he isn't as good as his father. Toni is also a survivor, intelligent, and someone relatively untouchable by the law due to his business.

 

Vic is just f*cking tragic. He joins the army to help his family, especially his brother Pete, who has SEVERE asthma. He gets kicked out of the army for hiding pot in his barracks for Martinez, his superior officer. He lost his love interest, and at the end of the game, said f*ck the drugs, I'm out. Boom, 1986, Lance and Vic are still dealing with the life they've lived, and Vic pays for it.

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Queen Elizabeth II

I don't think Trevor is overrated. I don't like him, and not many people do... But if someone really likes him then he will defend him like a maniac :D

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Jeansowaty

 

He is. He sucks, because he is like a braindead killer.

So, it'd be better if he was emotional person, who'd cry, when he killed somebody?

 

No, not in that sense. I mean he is way too unloyal. C* wanted to make the player feel his own role in it, but they failed.

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Pooyan Cyrus

 

 

 

 

He is. He sucks, because he is like a braindead killer.

So, it'd be better if he was emotional person, who'd cry, when he killed somebody?

 

No, not in that sense. I mean he is way too unloyal. C* wanted to make the player feel his own role in it, but they failed.

You mean he was braindead just because he didn't talk nonsense after killing somebody, as Tommy and CJ did?

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Piggsy pls

 

CJ is overrated because ppl only like him for his customizations and wouldn't give two sh*ts about him if GTA SA didn't have them.

This is the most pathetic reasoning ever. If this is true, then Tommy is liked only because of Ray Liotta's voice, right? Seems like you are a miserable CoD or WD fanboy. Get the f*ck out of here.

All the GTA protagonists (except for Toni and Vic, the worst protagonists ever) are overrated. Claude is overrated for the reason the OP said. Tommy is overrated because while he's a badass, ppl praise him as if he's a Mafia God. CJ is overrated because ppl only like him for his customizations and wouldn't give two sh*ts about him if GTA SA didn't have them. And Niko and Trevor are self-explanatory. I know this guy isn't technically a GTA protagonist, but IMO, Jimmy Hopkins is better than all of them put together.

You must be a pathetic CoD or WD fanboy. Get the f*ck out of here.

 

Quote fail.

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CJ is overrated because ppl only like him for his customizations and wouldn't give two sh*ts about him if GTA SA didn't have them.

This is the most pathetic reasoning ever. If this is true, then Tommy is liked only because of Ray Liotta's voice, right? Seems like you are a miserable CoD or WD fanboy. Get the f*ck out of here.

All the GTA protagonists (except for Toni and Vic, the worst protagonists ever) are overrated. Claude is overrated for the reason the OP said. Tommy is overrated because while he's a badass, ppl praise him as if he's a Mafia God. CJ is overrated because ppl only like him for his customizations and wouldn't give two sh*ts about him if GTA SA didn't have them. And Niko and Trevor are self-explanatory. I know this guy isn't technically a GTA protagonist, but IMO, Jimmy Hopkins is better than all of them put together.

You must be a pathetic CoD or WD fanboy. Get the f*ck out of here.

 

 

Ohh, somebody's got a personal feud with this guy.

 

 

But yeah, I do think the main reason as to why people liked CJ was because you could customize him like a barbie doll.

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Pooyan Cyrus

But yeah, I do think the main reason as to why people liked CJ was because you could customize him like a barbie doll.

 

Not logical at all. You can do this with Trevor, too; Is Trevor popular because of V's character customization?

So let's say The main reason as to why people liked Niko was because you could play bowling as him.

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But yeah, I do think the main reason as to why people liked CJ was because you could customize him like a barbie doll.

 

Not logical at all. You can do this with Trevor, too; Is Trevor popular because of V's character customization?

 

 

You can't make Trevor obese or muscular, even though I'd like to see an obese Trevor. The character customization was a lot more in depth in SA as opposed to V.

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He is. He sucks, because he is like a braindead killer.

So, it'd be better if he was emotional person, who'd cry, when he killed somebody?

 

No, not in that sense. I mean he is way too unloyal. C* wanted to make the player feel his own role in it, but they failed.

You mean he was braindead just because he didn't talk nonsense after killing somebody, as Tommy and CJ did?

 

He acted like he had no brain. He wasn't as smart as other protagonists are. A good example is Kingdom Come. Instead of running the hell away from that place, he wanted to blow up these vans. Don't tell me that he was "badass" because of that.

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Tommy Vercetti for me what an Annoying 1 dimensional douche bag and just an all round horrible character hands down the worst And Most Overrated character in the Series .

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GTA19somethin

Tommy Vercetti for me what an Annoying 1 dimensional douche bag and just an all round horrible character hands down the worst And Most Overrated character in the Series .

And explain to me how exactly was he "1 dimensional." Edited by GTA19somethin

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Mr_Leone

Tommy is ambitious and focused, but when I think of Mafia characters in GTA, I think Toni. I think Tommy is pretty unique in the fact he comes out of jail and takes over an entire city, as if to say to Sonny, "jail can't hold the Harwood butcher down", so I'd say it's a story of the pursuit of power.

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Paul723

Honestly, as much as I love GTA, I think about 85% of the characters of the series are overrated. As far as underrated GTA characters go, Armando and Diego Mendez, Phil Cassidy, Madd Dogg, Ryder, Kendl, Vincenzo, Asuka, Joey Leon, and 8-Ball fit that description perfectly. Anyone else gonna name any more underrated GTA characters?

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