Will we ever see a GTA game based in the Midwest?

[TheDeaconBosco]

Almost everytime the Midwest gets mentioned as part of the GTA Universe, it's said to be a pretty uninteresting place overall.

 

Are the writers playing on popular sentiment, or is it a veiled message implying that they have no interest to ever focus on this part of America.

[Pooyan Cyrus]

I don't think midwest is an uniteresting part of America, it actually has lots of potential for a GTA game.

But at least for games between V and VI (if there will be one, ever) and the VI itself, it's unlikely to happen. They have 3 undone cities: SF, LV and VC. And putting VC in the famous frustrating VIce city thing, is a big money printing machine, because many people loved VC.

 

So, for now, there's no midwest. After VI, perhaps.

[universetwisters]

I hope we can, like maybe some Bismark-esque city with Ludendorff on the outskirts of it. That close to the border, the plot could revolve around smuggling and stuff. Hell, that would be a better story than V's

[Lemoyne outlaw]

the midwest is the best part of america and is the only place gta hasent been except north yankton briefly. we have so many things that could be brought to the table in gta. just look at detroit or gary. but that dosent mean the midwest is a bad place. those are just the bad areas. we have the great lakes small towns farms big cities. we have almost everything except deserts sadly.

[squeezx]

Sorry but the Midwest just sounds boring. The only major city is Chicago and it's been done already. I live in missouri. And I can tell you it's pretty dull. No majestic mountains, no beaches, no flashy cities or skyscrapers. Just a lot of corn and farmland. Unless you want a GTA where you're a farmer it is going to suck.

[Queen Elizabeth II]

I'm not from USA and only cities I know how they look are NY, LA, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington D.C., Las Vegas, Detroit... so I don't care about any other city actually.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Queen Elizabeth II

[Hmmm nice bike]

If they ever visit the Midwest, it'll only be to Chicago. I might be biased considering that I'm from Chicago, but honestly, anywhere else would pretty boring. Even Detroit is uninteresting, it's just known for being a massive sh*thole where Eminem comes from.

[ClaudX]

Yes. It'll feature three cities, parodying Indianapolis, Chicago, and Detroit. The state will be called Gray Valley and will feature two protagonists. Remember this information for the future.

[Zello]

I hope they do set a GTA in the Midwest the question is what city or cities will it be based on and the time it takes place in. A Chicago/Milwaukee game could work or Detroit. Why not try Cleveland?(Ok maybe not Cleveland no one wants to go to Cleveland ) If they ever do a GTA in the Midwest I hope its a period piece and not present day.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Zello

[Drunken Cowboy]

As someone who lives in the Midwest, fat liberals with funny accents and rolling plains of wheat, hay, and sh*tting cows don't really excite me.
I found much of Blaine in GTA V to be a disappointment. Unless you do something like Red Dead; packing several biomes all-together (desert, plains, snow, urban, grassy hills, rocky mountains) then another nature-centric GTA doesn't interest me.
I'd rather have compact and detailed GTA IV Liberty City or even San Andreas' version of the state than GTA V's vast expanse of bland city and untraversable mountains.

[gjohniu27858]

Nah, and I'd prefer that R* doesn't make one taking place there.

[nayers2007]

Honestly, I think it should. Besides, a midwest set map doesn't have to be one or two cities like everyone else claims it'll be. There is tons of potential and a hot take here, I think GTA VII WILL be the midwest. Think about it, GTA IV was a city, GTA V was a couple counties, GTA VI is an entire state, so logically, the next step is a region. The midwest has loads of potential. With how powerfull gaming tech will be in the mid to late 2030's, it's not impossible to make a functioning map with 5 or 6 decent to lare sized cities. You have Chicago, Detroit, Indy, Cleveland, Cincinnati, St. Louis, Minneapolis all of which combined can make a really good map. Now yes, there might be a load of fields, the midwest have more then just rolling hills and flat lands. You have the Appalachians to the east where Ohio and Kentucky would be, you got the great lakes to the north, massive cave systems in Kentucky, plus this map would probably bring Ludendorff  back, and there was some large mountains surrounding the valley the town sits in too. Plus you have urban attractions like the cities themselves, amusement parks, small towns. The list goes on and on. I get why some people may not like this given that they presume it'll only be fields and such, but personally, it's a really good setting for a game waiting to be used.

[Pashaforever]

We already had one (technically), back in 2003. It's called Manhunt.

[Meesmoth]

Notice how in the entire GTA universe, there is zero mention of the Midwest's most iconic city; Chicago.

 

So in short answer, no, we're not getting a GTA set in the Midwest, plus Watch Dogs already did Chicago. Same reason why San Fierro is impossible; already covered by another game.

[Nico]

3 hours ago, Meesmoth said:

Notice how in the entire GTA universe, there is zero mention of the Midwest's most iconic city; Chicago.

 

So in short answer, no, we're not getting a GTA set in the Midwest, plus Watch Dogs already did Chicago. Same reason why San Fierro is impossible; already covered by another game.

It's widely believed that Carcer City is the GTA equivalent of Chicago. And I believe people will gladly bury Watch Dogs forever if Rockstar made a modern GTA set in either Carcer or San Fierro. There's no comparison between the popularity of both franchises. WD1 is almost as old as GTA V, no one will give a damn about it by the time an hypothetical GTA set in Carcer City comes out, years from now. Same with WD2 and an possible GTA in San Fierro. With the way things are going, it's safe to assume we will only get one GTA game per console generation from now on. More time for hype to be built and WD to be forgotten.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

9 hours ago, Pashaforever said:

We already had one (technically), back in 2003. It's called Manhunt.

manhunt isn't an open world game. you can't drive cars or fly planes. there are no side activities. it's just a linear story. 

 

5 hours ago, Meesmoth said:

Notice how in the entire GTA universe, there is zero mention of the Midwest's most iconic city; Chicago.

 

So in short answer, no, we're not getting a GTA set in the Midwest, plus Watch Dogs already did Chicago. Same reason why San Fierro is impossible; already covered by another game.

by your logic we won't get las venturas because saint row already did vegas. just because another game is set in the same city gta is. doesn't mean it will be the same game. there have been thousands of games set in new york and los angeles. so rockstar shouldn't have had gta 4 and 5 set in those cities right? wrong! i for one would love to see san fierro and las venturas again. and i don't care if other games are set there.

 

also as a side note. watch dogs is mostly about hacking and doing good. sure it has similarities with gta. but their stories and gameplay have a lot of differences. 

[RamsaySaintEternal]

1 hour ago, Nico said:

It's widely believed that Carcer City is the GTA equivalent of Chicago. And I believe people will gladly bury Watch Dogs forever if Rockstar made a modern GTA set in either Carcer or San Fierro. There's no comparison between the popularity of both franchises. WD1 is almost as old as GTA V, no one will give a damn about it by the time an hypothetical GTA set in Carcer City comes out, years from now. Same with WD2 and an possible GTA in San Fierro. With the way things are going, it's safe to assume we will only get one GTA game per console generation from now on. More time for hype to be built and WD to be forgotten.

Well we don't know if Carcer City is a Midwest city, It could be East Coast. The miles travelled stats for Gta IV has Carcer City being not too far from LC implying It's in The East Coast, One real city that kinda matches the stats for Carcer is Philadelphia which could easily mean Carcer is Gta's Philly but in V Michael mentions he robbed a bank on the outskirts of Carcer, Of course Michael could've been from The East Coast originally but I always took him as someone who lived in The Midwest for much of his life so idk, I'm not sure. I would absolutely love to see Chicago in Gta tho, I am a Chicagoan so seeing my city represented would be awesome and there's much you can do with the city when it comes to the crime aspect

Edited January 10 by RamsaySaintEternal

[Meesmoth]

4 hours ago, Nico said:

It's widely believed that Carcer City is the GTA equivalent of Chicago. And I believe people will gladly bury Watch Dogs forever if Rockstar made a modern GTA set in either Carcer or San Fierro. There's no comparison between the popularity of both franchises. WD1 is almost as old as GTA V, no one will give a damn about it by the time an hypothetical GTA set in Carcer City comes out, years from now. Same with WD2 and an possible GTA in San Fierro. With the way things are going, it's safe to assume we will only get one GTA game per console generation from now on. More time for hype to be built and WD to be forgotten.

 

It's not even fully confirmed if Carcer is intended to be Chicago. There are videos explaining where Carcer City could be located and based on evidence on both GTA universe and Manhunt, it is still poorly defined as a regular Midwest city rather than being clearly based on a real-life iconic city.

 

If Carcer isn't Chicago, then my point stands that it's not even mentioned once throughout the GTA universe, despite Chicago being the third-most populated city of the United States (after New York City & Los Angeles). Also Chicago was the birthplace of the steel-framed skyscraper, which New York City used throughout the 20th century, but it's not even mentioned in the "History of Liberty City" documentary inside GTA IV (they could have poked fun with it by saying ("[Chicago fictional name] invented skyscrapers and we took them and made it better"). The Sears Tower (tallest building of the country back in 2008) is not also referenced in the in-game websites for Liberty City skyscrapers; for example, it is mentioned that Rotterdam Tower (Empire State Building) is the "tallest building" of Liberty City but nowhere in the description mentions it as the "2nd tallest building of the country" or "once held the world's tallest building" title, as Sears Tower is clearly taller, but built much later than the Empire State Building.

 

 

 

Regarding San Fierro; the Watch Dogs 2 version of the city is the most-accurate recreation of San Francisco to date, it's not like the PS2-era titles. The street layouts & landmarks, despite being a scaled-down version, were done pretty well (and this is done by Ubisoft, not Rockstar). I can even argue that it's even more accurate than GTA V's Los Santos as a whole. Yes, some of the iconic areas are close to 1:1 recreation like Venice Beach or Santa Monica Pier, but the rest of the city is scaled down and less accurate, even the iconic Downtown skyline has missing buildings like the Aon Center for example, or the Wilshire Boulevard and the Miracle Mile district being completely missing from the game. Another example is Union Station, which appeared in GTA San Andreas but is missing in GTA V.

 

Sure, there can be another GTA be set in San Fierro, but the important question is; what could it have to set itself apart from the Watch Dogs 2 version? By looking at how long it took to develop another GTA game and the amount of time we were stuck in Los Santos, I doubt a lot of the people would be able to stay in San Fierro for longer than 3 years, let alone 10 years or even longer. By looking at both cities in one image you would be able to see how Watch Dogs 2 perfectly captured San Francisco very well just like how GTA V captured Los Angeles despite being less accurate.

 

In the end, San Fierro would just end up as a duplicate map as Watch Dogs 2, the only difference would be the area names, some small areas, brands & advertisements, and finally the radio stations.

 

Edited January 10 by Meesmoth

[Meesmoth]

2 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

by your logic we won't get las venturas because saint row already did vegas.

 

Santo Ileso is nowhere near Las Vegas in terms of accuracy. Even GTA San Andreas (despite being a PS2 game) is more closer to Las Vegas. And since then a lot has changed in Las Vegas because the casinos & resorts are constantly changing; just look at images of Las Vegas from 1992 and present-day and try to compare them, it's like a completely different city.

 

Edited January 10 by Meesmoth

[Pashaforever]

15 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

manhunt isn't an open world game. you can't drive cars or fly planes. there are no side activities. it's just a linear story. 

Manhunt games are part of the GTA lore so they are GTA spin-offs for me.

 

13 hours ago, Meesmoth said:

 

It's not even fully confirmed if Carcer is intended to be Chicago. There are videos explaining where Carcer City could be located and based on evidence on both GTA universe and Manhunt, it is still poorly defined as a regular Midwest city rather than being clearly based on a real-life iconic city.

 

If Carcer isn't Chicago, then my point stands that it's not even mentioned once throughout the GTA universe, despite Chicago being the third-most populated city of the United States (after New York City & Los Angeles). Also Chicago was the birthplace of the steel-framed skyscraper, which New York City used throughout the 20th century, but it's not even mentioned in the "History of Liberty City" documentary inside GTA IV (they could have poked fun with it by saying ("[Chicago fictional name] invented skyscrapers and we took them and made it better"). The Sears Tower (tallest building of the country back in 2008) is not also referenced in the in-game websites for Liberty City skyscrapers; for example, it is mentioned that Rotterdam Tower (Empire State Building) is the "tallest building" of Liberty City but nowhere in the description mentions it as the "2nd tallest building of the country" or "once held the world's tallest building" title, as Sears Tower is clearly taller, but built much later than the Empire State Building.

 

 

 

Regarding San Fierro; the Watch Dogs 2 version of the city is the most-accurate recreation of San Francisco to date, it's not like the PS2-era titles. The street layouts & landmarks, despite being a scaled-down version, were done pretty well (and this is done by Ubisoft, not Rockstar). I can even argue that it's even more accurate than GTA V's Los Santos as a whole. Yes, some of the iconic areas are close to 1:1 recreation like Venice Beach or Santa Monica Pier, but the rest of the city is scaled down and less accurate, even the iconic Downtown skyline has missing buildings like the Aon Center for example, or the Wilshire Boulevard and the Miracle Mile district being completely missing from the game. Another example is Union Station, which appeared in GTA San Andreas but is missing in GTA V.

 

Sure, there can be another GTA be set in San Fierro, but the important question is; what could it have to set itself apart from the Watch Dogs 2 version? By looking at how long it took to develop another GTA game and the amount of time we were stuck in Los Santos, I doubt a lot of the people would be able to stay in San Fierro for longer than 3 years, let alone 10 years or even longer. By looking at both cities in one image you would be able to see how Watch Dogs 2 perfectly captured San Francisco very well just like how GTA V captured Los Angeles despite being less accurate.

 

In the end, San Fierro would just end up as a duplicate map as Watch Dogs 2, the only difference would be the area names, some small areas, brands & advertisements, and finally the radio stations.

 

I haven't played WD2 yet but I'm pretty sure if Rockstar is going to do Northern Cali in GTA 7 they are not just going to do Bay Area. And they would bring simple stuff Watch Dogs is missing like aviation.