The Coconut Kid Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 5/31/2022 at 11:22 AM, sabitsuki said: Would really wanna see this concept revitalized and redone for the forum at some point without having to always use Wayback to check the goods out. So much good stuff here. Don't tempt me! Maybe I'll relent. If we're going to expand and enhance this baby, we're going to have to go big. How far can we push it? The ambition needs to be to cover the entire decade. 1980, 1985, 1988. Multiple protagonists and multiple perspectives. Arriving. Surviving. Establishing the drug trade. Funding the evolution of South Florida from a backwater into a paradise. And I don't want to show any of this without the struggles and the absolute horrors of arriving in Miami by boat. This is something I have previously failed to capture and want to put right. I'll need the full expanse of the eighties to tell the stories I want to tell. I want to give you the best depiction of Miami at that point in history as I can. Fitting this into the concept format will be a challenge. I'm ambitious about developing novels in the future - kind of like your plans for a web series. There will need to be multiple locations. How much can I get away with? The Bahamas and Cuba will be necessary early on. Haiti and Puerto Rico need to be there, and we'll be spending a lot of time in Colombia. I can limit one or two extra maps per story, but I can't confine myself to just the Vice Metropolitan Area. It also depends what the expectations are for content. I can provide the progressively changing soundtrack and vehicles throughout the decade - that's the fun part. I can also show the physical changes to the location and how the map would develop over time. But the features and side content will likely remain the same and I can only manage short synopsis rather than missions. I'm not limited to GTA if there is something else you would like to see. Miami is never far from my mind. I have thought about a Miami based sequel to The Warriors when we expand into other games. But The Vice City Remix by @Ivan1997GTA also has me thinking about a Lance Vance DLC. Tons of things we can do, GTA or otherwise. And I'd love to see someone like @Patrizio or @The Made Man take on a Vice City thread... they've both got some great ideas. Thanks for the interest. You've given me a lot to think about. On 6/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, wise_man said: Adding more pictures from 80s Miami would be a good idea; make it like the LC78 concept. There's more photograph documentations from that era on the internet now compared to like six years ago. https://www.vintag.es/2018/12/miami-1980s.html https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/g29664917/best-miami-1980s-photos/ Oh the pictures I've stashed of 80s Miami over the years! They would make Epstein's spankbank blush. You're right. Pictures are a good idea and I have thought about posting a photo essay somewhere. I'm uneasy about placing them in a concept thread because too much content tends to break them. We've had issues with this topic where we were all unable to load it for years. Leave it with me and I'll see what I can do. And if there any pictures that you're particularly interested in, let me know! sabitsuki, wise_man, Ivan1997GTA and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 38 minutes ago, The Coconut Kid said: Don't tempt me! Maybe I'll relent. If we're going to expand and enhance this baby, we're going to have to go big. How far can we push it? The ambition needs to be to cover the entire decade. 1980, 1985, 1988. Multiple protagonists and multiple perspectives. Arriving. Surviving. Establishing the drug trade. Funding the evolution of South Florida from a backwater into a paradise. And I don't want to show any of this without the struggles and the absolute horrors of arriving in Miami by boat. This is something I have previously failed to capture and want to put right. I'll need the full expanse of the eighties to tell the stories I want to tell. I want to give you the best depiction of Miami at that point in history as I can. Fitting this into the concept format will be a challenge. I'm ambitious about developing novels in the future - kind of like your plans for a web series. There will need to be multiple locations. How much can I get away with? The Bahamas and Cuba will be necessary early on. Haiti and Puerto Rico need to be there, and we'll be spending a lot of time in Colombia. I can limit one or two extra maps per story, but I can't confine myself to just the Vice Metropolitan Area. It also depends what the expectations are for content. I can provide the progressively changing soundtrack and vehicles throughout the decade - that's the fun part. I can also show the physical changes to the location and how the map would develop over time. But the features and side content will likely remain the same and I can only manage short synopsis rather than missions. I'm not limited to GTA if there is something else you would like to see. Miami is never far from my mind. I have thought about a Miami based sequel to The Warriors when we expand into other games. But The Vice City Remix by @Ivan1997GTA also has me thinking about a Lance Vance DLC. Tons of things we can do, GTA or otherwise. And I'd love to see someone like @Patrizio or @The Made Man take on a Vice City thread... they've both got some great ideas. Thanks for the interest. You've given me a lot to think about. Oh the pictures I've stashed of 80s Miami over the years! They would make Epstein's spankbank blush. You're right. Pictures are a good idea and I have thought about posting a photo essay somewhere. I'm uneasy about placing them in a concept thread because too much content tends to break them. We've had issues with this topic where we were all unable to load it for years. Leave it with me and I'll see what I can do. And if there any pictures that you're particularly interested in, let me know! Thanks! I did a thread years ago. The Coconut Kid, Big Fat Paulie, Ivan1997GTA and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wise_man Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, The Made Man said: Thanks! I did a thread years ago. Dude, I've read it before. What a gold that you can expand into fully-fledged concept thread. While I don't take any influence from it for L&S, I had once used couple of your character names as stand-in for my characters, like Sammy Rodriguez (Hector's brother) being used for Saul Rodriguez (the Tindler Swindler-like ex journalist) before I establish his name. Big Fat Paulie, The Coconut Kid and The Made Man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Made Man Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, wise_man said: Dude, I've read it before. What a gold that you can expand into fully-fledged concept thread. While I don't take any influence from it for L&S, I had once used couple of your character names as stand-in for my characters, like Sammy Rodriguez (Hector's brother) being used for Saul Rodriguez (the Tindler Swindler-like ex journalist) before I establish his name. Thanks! And I’m flattered that my character ideas influenced yours. I may do an actual concept thread down the line. This time more in depth, better grammar(I was very young at time lol) and better logos. The Coconut Kid, Ivan1997GTA and Big Fat Paulie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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