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Gareth Alan Willmer

What happend to Tommy Vercetti Explained

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Gareth Alan Willmer

After you have completed the game and taken over everything what happens after for Tommy? Read on

In 1992 when GTA San Andreas is set on the Introduction DVD Ken Rosenberg is seen making a call to Tommy but is refused by someone on the phone. It could be argued that it is some receptionist however we do not know for 100% fact who answered the phone if this was a man or women or even anyone working for Tommy. This can be seen on this

video from 12:32

 

 

 

However there is multiple references made to Tommy in one way or another threw out the GTA San Andreas Introduction DVD for example directly from the mouth of Salvatore Leone also from GTA 3 and GTA Liberty City Stories he states to Johnny about how he thought he thought he ran things in liberty city since sonny forelli got pasted(killed) down in Florida aka Vice City, not one mention is made of Tommy but it is clear this is a reference to him. This can be viewed from 9:24 into the above linked video. before this Ken is seen at the Fort Carson Medical Centre in San Andreas indicating the reason he is no longer with Tommy is due to a drug problem..

 

In the full game GTA San Andreas there are references made to Tommy in the mission the Meat Business with Ken Rosenberg Ken mentions Tommy in front of CJ and Cj does not seem to have any clue who Tommy Vercetti even is.Video and time included

 

 

 

play from 6:06 for the Tommy reference

 

Last but not least in GTA San Andreas the truth mentions a mob take over of a garage from Vice City clearly a reference to Tommy Vercettis mob showing that after Tommy took over Vice City he expanded into San Andreas with the garage. Hopefully some can post the name of the mission where he says that as i have been unable to find it.

 

In GTA Liberty City Stories outside the Saint Marcos Bistro there are three billboards one has the apartments from Vice City as what they looked like under Vercettis control and with it being 1998 seems to suggest tommy is still in control. When you look at GTA Vice City Stories set in 1984 when you take over business with Victor Vance or gain turf things change or businesses look a lot different. The apartments in Vice City on the billboards outside the Saint Marcos Bistro in GTA LCS 98 seem to suggest this as no changes have been made since 1986.

 

On the website Kent Paul set in October 1st 2002 http://www.kentpaul.com/ there was a small comment from Kent Paul on a page stating Tommy is still alive and in power.

 

After this date it is unknown what has happened to Tommy or if he is still in power. These are all valid and confirmed facts. Thanks for reading and hope you enjoyed the read. Feel free to share this post with others all i ask is that you give credit.

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KarimNTerr

I think that Rockstar wanted Tommy Vercetti to physically appear in GTA: San Andreas, but since they had a dispute with Ray Liotta they were no longer able to do so. It would have been pretty cool, though.

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Osho

I always had this strange feeling, if Tommy ever makes a return, then most likely as an antagonist.

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The Mysterious One

I think that Rockstar wanted Tommy Vercetti to physically appear in GTA: San Andreas, but since they had a dispute with Ray Liotta they were no longer able to do so. It would have been pretty cool, though.

 

I wonder what his role would have been. If he was in power, do you think he would leave Vice City? I am sure that Ken could have finally reached him and maybe there could have been a little team-up between him and CJ.

 

By the way, I never knew about this dispute between Rockstar Games and Ray Liotta until sometime recently.

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One Man Standing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWy0N475kM

 

 

Look at the readings on the wall. They say that cj is dead, tommy is dead,vic is dead, claude is dead, tony is dead...

Edited by One Man Standing

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Gareth Alan Willmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWy0N475kM

 

 

Look at the readings on the wall. They say that cj is dead, tommy is dead,vic is dead, claude is dead, tony is dead...

 

 

Where does it say Tommy Vercetti? That could be anyone named Tommy. And GTA IV is a separate universe to the 3D universe so even if they where dead in the GTA IV Universe it still wouldnt affect the 3D GTA Universe as they are separate from each other. By the way we have yet to see Rockstar explain how the GTA IV Universe Tommy,Carl,Toni etc died.

 

The events in the GTA 3 universe never happened in the GTA IV universe so they would explain how some people may have lived similar life's like lazlow but with different events than those that happened in the GTA 3 era would also explain the different layouts of the maps and gangs, bosses etc..

 

Its just something you explain to answer questions really.

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KarimNTerr

That graffiti doesn't mean that they're physically dead (except Vic Vance), it simply means that we'll never see them again.

 

@The Mysterious One: Maybe he just wanted to expand his business on the West Coast taking advantage of the fact that Ken Rosenberg was moving there, since he was his only trusted friend at the end of GTA: Vice City.

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Queen Elizabeth II

Maybe instead of robbing Salvatore we would rob Vercetti, lol.

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Young Martini

I would love it if Rockstar would do this (ok it's hard but it would be perfect).
Make a GTA for what happened before and after (for example: ) GTA 3
Like Claude's early life, including a few missions, and after GTA3 a few missions
Tommy's early life a few missions (we know much about it thou') and a few missions and a few missions after GTA Vice City (like did he die?)

Carl's early life, a few missions, and after GTA SA (we already know he didn't die, but we all would love to know about his mom's and brother's death, and what he did after SA)
Toni's early life, a few missions, and after GTA LCS what happened, and a few missions

Same with Victor and Niko (BTW was he from Croatia or Serbia or...) Johnny (ok we know he died but...) Luis
And a few missions of early life of Michael, Franklin, and Trevor.
:r*:
WE LOVE ROCKSTAR!

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Young Martini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWy0N475kM

 

 

Look at the readings on the wall. They say that cj is dead, tommy is dead,vic is dead, claude is dead, tony is dead...

No, Rockstar confirmed it was a joke.

I read somewhere that there is an easter egg in Gta Sa related to Tommy. It said that 'during the mission 555 WE TIP, when going to the destination marker, you will see a cop car chasing another car. Look carefully, the driver will be Tommy Vercetti'. Haven't tried it though.

WOW bro. You tried it yet?

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markusizr

he still alive with mercedes. :/

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Jerome

Tommy is still alive and in control, but, he must probably be retired, I calculated and he would be 63 years old (born in 1951) so IMO, he's probably retired, drinking a good whiskey poolside with mercedes! :D

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OdysseyVoyager

Tommy is still alive and in control, but, he must probably be retired, I calculated and he would be 63 years old (born in 1951) so IMO, he's probably retired, drinking a good whiskey poolside with mercedes! :D

 

That's pretty logical actually lol...

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Gareth Alan Willmer

I wonder what ray liottas and Rockstar Games reaction would be if a ton of gta fans took the initiative to contact them and ask the both to consider bringing back Tommy and to work out there differences.The fans deserve it since they where the ones that made GTA Vice City a success by buying and supporting it.

 

Is it possible to contact Ray directly or threw his agent to ask can't hurt for GTA Fans to try right? If not a game a special DVD - Blu Ray movie detailing Tommy s life after the events of Vice City id buy that. Maybe even have some characters for past games make appearances to make it epic and add some comedic situations.

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josephmandm

I would love it if Rockstar would do this (ok it's hard but it would be perfect).

Make a GTA for what happened before and after (for example: ) GTA 3

Like Claude's early life, including a few missions, and after GTA3 a few missions

Tommy's early life a few missions (we know much about it thou') and a few missions and a few missions after GTA Vice City (like did he die?)

Carl's early life, a few missions, and after GTA SA (we already know he didn't die, but we all would love to know about his mom's and brother's death, and what he did after SA)

Toni's early life, a few missions, and after GTA LCS what happened, and a few missions

Same with Victor and Niko (BTW was he from Croatia or Serbia or...) Johnny (ok we know he died but...) Luis

And a few missions of early life of Michael, Franklin, and Trevor.

:r*:

WE LOVE ROCKSTAR!

I would love it if Rockstar would do this (ok it's hard but it would be perfect).

Make a GTA for what happened before and after (for example: ) GTA 3

Like Claude's early life, including a few missions, and after GTA3 a few missions

Tommy's early life a few missions (we know much about it thou') and a few missions and a few missions after GTA Vice City (like did he die?)

Carl's early life, a few missions, and after GTA SA (we already know he didn't die, but we all would love to know about his mom's and brother's death, and what he did after SA)

Toni's early life, a few missions, and after GTA LCS what happened, and a few missions

Same with Victor and Niko (BTW was he from Croatia or Serbia or...) Johnny (ok we know he died but...) Luis

And a few missions of early life of Michael, Franklin, and Trevor.

:r*:

WE LOVE ROCKSTAR!

 

My friend. I've already started on this, I've started creating it in Dyom with a group of 15 people, we're gonna TRY to pitch it to rockstar, hopefully, it'll be a "San Andreas stories" but it will take place exactly one year after San Andreas, and is the perfect way to sum up the 3d universe, it explains everything from claude before gta 3, how toni became a capo, what tommy was doing after vice city, and how Carl managed los santos after.

 

 

Spoiler: They all end up meeting at one point in the story. Only 2 of them live.

 

 

Keep in mind it makes sence with the rest of the gta games, can be played in chronological order and will still flow nicely with What comes after (gta liberty city stories and gta 3)

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I would love it if Rockstar would do this (ok it's hard but it would be perfect).

Make a GTA for what happened before and after (for example: ) GTA 3

Like Claude's early life, including a few missions, and after GTA3 a few missions

Tommy's early life a few missions (we know much about it thou') and a few missions and a few missions after GTA Vice City (like did he die?)

Carl's early life, a few missions, and after GTA SA (we already know he didn't die, but we all would love to know about his mom's and brother's death, and what he did after SA)

Toni's early life, a few missions, and after GTA LCS what happened, and a few missions

Same with Victor and Niko (BTW was he from Croatia or Serbia or...) Johnny (ok we know he died but...) Luis

And a few missions of early life of Michael, Franklin, and Trevor.

:r*:WE LOVE ROCKSTAR!

I would love it if Rockstar would do this (ok it's hard but it would be perfect).

Make a GTA for what happened before and after (for example: ) GTA 3

Like Claude's early life, including a few missions, and after GTA3 a few missions

Tommy's early life a few missions (we know much about it thou') and a few missions and a few missions after GTA Vice City (like did he die?)

Carl's early life, a few missions, and after GTA SA (we already know he didn't die, but we all would love to know about his mom's and brother's death, and what he did after SA)

Toni's early life, a few missions, and after GTA LCS what happened, and a few missions

Same with Victor and Niko (BTW was he from Croatia or Serbia or...) Johnny (ok we know he died but...) Luis

And a few missions of early life of Michael, Franklin, and Trevor.

:r*:WE LOVE ROCKSTAR!

My friend. I've already started on this, I've started creating it in Dyom with a group of 15 people, we're gonna TRY to pitch it to rockstar, hopefully, it'll be a "San Andreas stories" but it will take place exactly one year after San Andreas, and is the perfect way to sum up the 3d universe, it explains everything from claude before gta 3, how toni became a capo, what tommy was doing after vice city, and how Carl managed los santos after.

Spoiler: They all end up meeting at one point in the story. Only 2 of them live.

Keep in mind it makes sence with the rest of the gta games, can be played in chronological order and will still flow nicely with What comes after (gta liberty city stories and gta 3)

That sounds really awesome. Also, since Toni's alive in 1998 and 2001 I'm guessing Tommy dies?

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josephmandm

 

 

Tommys result will be explained in this series^^^

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MythicalCreature

Last but not least in GTA San Andreas the truth mentions a mob take over of a garage from Vice City clearly a reference to Tommy Vercettis mob showing that after Tommy took over Vice City he expanded into San Andreas with the garage. Hopefully some can post the name of the mission where he says that as i have been unable to find it.

The mission was 'Wear flowers in your hair', and no, you've got that bit of info mostly wrong.

Tommy didn't expand into San Andreas with a garage, the Truth was talking about the Boatyard in Vice that you buy as an asset. This happened in the main game itself, not after the main game.

After killing Diaz, tommy became very powerful leading him access to the assets. His organisation is referenced as the 'mob'. The two guys you at the boatyard (? Not sure if 'at' the boatyard) are Dwaine and Jethro.

The Boatyard is in VC and Tommy had no access to any asset in SA, only probably sending Ken there (in the middle of the desert, too) just to get rid of him cause his blow-snorting made him a liability, having to get him out of trouble and all.

The Truth: ...they worked on marine engines before the mob took over their business in Vice...

As you can see, The Truth says in Vice, not from Vice. Also said they worked on marine engines - boats, not cars. Clearly depicting they were most likely the boatyard guys. Everyone knows that! Edited by bengalboy_0701

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markusizr

the mob is vercetti gang

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universetwisters

Tommy Vercetti died of a heart attack while watching repeats of "Welcome Back Kotter" in his mansion sometime in 1995.

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houseofgeekdom

"HA! Heart attack he says..."
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(Credit to FidoX for creating the model for me to texture)

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Queen Elizabeth II

Oh it's George Clooney!

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Mister Pink

Tommy is still alive and in control, but, he must probably be retired, I calculated and he would be 63 years old (born in 1951) so IMO, he's probably retired, drinking a good whiskey poolside with mercedes! :D

 

You never retire from that line of work. ;)

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NaTaLiiA513

I would love it if Rockstar went to back to Vice City. It could be the story of Tommy's and Mercedes' son, following his journey to get back Tommy's empire after it gets taken...something across the lines of that.

But it's unlikely that's ever going to happen.

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universetwisters

I just reread the OP again. Was Kent Paul's site really set in 2012? I can't see it because the computer I'm on doesn't want to load it, but I'm pretty sure it was 2002 or thereabouts.

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HeroBrineR007

I just reread the OP again. Was Kent Paul's site really set in 2012? I can't see it because the computer I'm on doesn't want to load it, but I'm pretty sure it was 2002 or thereabouts.

Propably same year as Vice City was released in. Cause the ending cutscene show www.kentpaul.com

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Gareth Alan Willmer

 

I just reread the OP again. Was Kent Paul's site really set in 2012? I can't see it because the computer I'm on doesn't want to load it, but I'm pretty sure it was 2002 or thereabouts.

Propably same year as Vice City was released in. Cause the ending cutscene show www.kentpaul.com

 

Corrected above. By the way anyone noticed kentpaul.com is now showing a blank white page or is it just me?

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