Car Talk Topic

[Lurch]

I knew a guy with a EZ30 H6 from a B9 Tribecca swapped into an Imprezza. It was pretty cool. 250 hp or so. Probably not worth it now, but at the time, older WRX's were a lot pricier than normal Imprezzas. Tibecca engines were also fairly cheap. Nowadays, you could probably get a stage whatever reflashed WRX for less money that's quicker. .

[QuackinAColdOne]

Hello guys, I know there is alot of Bimmer-people here so I want your experties on something.

 

 

I am realy excited about buying a BMW for the summer, I have finaly got a new job as a salesman and a higher paycheck so I thought that I should treat me something expensive for the summer!

 

The BMW's I'm looking at is older versions, such as E32, E34 and E38, but the one I'm mostly into is the E34 540, with the V8 and 285hp

I do have some money saved up, 25.000 or about €2,600, but I think I will manage to save up to €4-5k for the summer!

 

What BMW would you guys recommend, that is fun to own, for that kind of money? and what do you guys think about Alpina's?

The 328d came to mind when you said this since it's gotten some pretty good reviews.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/latest-reviews/bmw-328d-exceeds-expectations-45-mpg-fuel-economy-german-sports-sedan-dynamics-article-1.1594164

 

The only thing is that it's about $45,000. A bit over your budget, then again the reviewer got the M Sport package but I don't know the difference between the price of the M sport option and standard option. Maybe they have cheaper versions of this model that are probably from about 2010.

[sivispacem]

I knew a guy with a EZ30 H6 from a B9 Tribecca swapped into an Imprezza.

There was UK Time Attack car which later moved into drag racing called the Jolly Green Monster that ran a forged SVX EG33 H6 twin turbo, north of 800bhp and 1100kg. Sadly Simon, the owner of the company that built it, died of cancer at the tail end of last year and I don't know what happened to the car. He was a big name in the UK Subaru scene.

 

Car was about the coolest looking Impreza in the world too.

 

 

9.8 second quarters on R888s.

[*MURDOC*]

That thing...

 

 

G'damn.

[Lurch]

Funnily enough, I got a friend with a crazy caged Imprezza that is planning to put an EG33 in.




No idea if he's planning on boost or not. I found an SVX for cheap on the side of the road one day for him to look at, but it appeared to have been sitting since 06 or so. Assuming it was parked because of transmission issues (since they're notorious for it) and the engine was hopefully still good.

Edited February 19, 2015 by Lurch

[*MURDOC*]

That is quite a cage right there.

[sivispacem]

What's the rationale behind the door bar design? Far as I can see they're just going to add weight for no real gain in rigidity.

[*MURDOC*]

Maybe he plans to take it off some wicked sweet dirt jumps and such.

[hvcciookay]

What's the rationale behind the door bar design? Far as I can see they're just going to add weight for no real gain in rigidity.

I seen something about this litterally last week. It might have been on blackflag/jalopnik. The X-Design I want to say is pretty much universal when it comes to rulesets, so you can freely use your car in multiple disciplines. I could be remembering it wrong.

[ChrissDaMan]

Here are some swedes I know that swaped engine

 

 

 

The Volvette, which ahave a motor from a Corvette, it's also swaped from FWD to RWD

 

 

 

This has a 2JZ, Toyota Supra engine!

 

 

 

 

 

and when I was at a race track called Mantorp park

 

This 924 with a 928 V8 which made a great noice!

 

 

And there where one BMW E30 with a V8 which was a beast, then there was a Corvettte with an Opel 4 cylinder, don't know why that planted an Opel engine in it but that car was incredible

[*MURDOC*]

I think it was so they could run it in a 4 cylinder class.

[Gouveia]

There are only two swaps that I wanted to do in my car. One is more feasible, and was done before:

 

 

The other one is just buying a busted Ford Fusion V6 (it can be bought, over here, for some ~USD5,000 on auctions) and stick it into the Fiesta

[ChrissDaMan]

I think it was so they could run it in a 4 cylinder class.

 

Yeah could have been.

[Argonaut]

Unpopular opinion: Film was pretty wank anyway

 

 

Edited February 19, 2015 by Argonaut

[QuackinAColdOne]

Can somebody explain the concept of engine swapping to me? As far as I know, you can basically swap any engine into any car as long as the chassis holds up under the power and the block fits under the hood. Do you literally take the engine out of another car or do you build a different engine with the same specs and put it in the final product?

[*MURDOC*]

There is a lot involved in many engine swaps, depending on how different the engine is in terms of size, power, drivetrain configuration, etc.

 

Taking any engine other than stock and placing it in the car would be a swap, but it's obviously a big difference swapping a Vtec engine into a Golf than a V8 into a Karmann Ghia.

 

 

Some cars will be just fine if you're only swapping a moderately higher power engine in the original configuration, but others, and more profound swaps will require strengthening of the chassis, as well as the possibility of needing to move the seating position, the engine position itself, welding in subframes harvested from other cars, stretching frames and/or body panels, cutting and welding tunnels for swaps that eliminate FWD, and plenty of other sh*t.

 

 

It's pretty much as easy or difficult as you want it to be.

[drifter.]

Oh I'm sorry guys. This is all prospective right now, so not even I know which one.

But the ones that has my eye so far is a 2002 wrx , manual hopefully , but cool with automatic.

 

 

Probably a v6 engine, or whatever , I'm not sure I'm kind of ignorant and still have a lot to learn haha

[Dottie]

My good ole 2010 ford focus started up every time despite being -30 the past few days

 

Damn thing sure is reliable. Probably because there's like nothing in it compared to cars today

[Moth]

There are only two swaps that I wanted to do in my car. One is more feasible, and was done before:

 

 

The other one is just buying a busted Ford Fusion V6 (it can be bought, over here, for some ~USD5,000 on auctions) and stick it into the Fiesta

Reminds me of this.

[El Dildo]

Can somebody explain the concept of engine swapping to me? As far as I know, you can basically swap any engine into any car as long as the chassis holds up under the power and the block fits under the hood. Do you literally take the engine out of another car or do you build a different engine with the same specs and put it in the final product?

well the concept is that it's fun

 

if you had the time/patience and/or money and you're a gearhead, what's not to love?

think of it like building your own beast gaming rig. you buy a great chasis and then throw together some of your favorite performance parts under the hood. it doesn't matter if they were meant to go together or not.

 

as Murdoc described there are many ways to go about engine swaps.

like, for reals...

 

http://www.engineswapdepot.com/

 

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/1404-popular-engine-swaps/

 

 

 

I've always had kind of a fetish for seeing people drop an LSx into... well anything really.

[QuackinAColdOne]

I can definitely see why it's fun haha. It's just that I guess I need to understand engines better to grasp the whole thing.

[Burbalade]

Is that a kit truck or an actual H1?

[*MURDOC*]

http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=2914

 

It looks like it could have started out as an actual H1, though it's obviously extensively modified.

 

That thing is scary fast on the sand drags.

[Lurch]

What's the rationale behind the door bar design? Far as I can see they're just going to add weight for no real gain in rigidity.

Not really sure what his rationale is on it. It all looks a bit jungle-gymish and overally heavy to me compared to a normal 6 point. He's definitely more of an engineer than me (makes billet aluminum drop spindles for Miatas and S-chassis. Has the Miata with the bellcrank hyabusa shock setup), so I won't question what he feels is safe.

[hvcciookay]

I can definitely see why it's fun haha. It's just that I guess I need to understand engines better to grasp the whole thing.

Haha, I only know 2 people who thinks it's remotely fun. One is putting a 1jz in a 240sx and the other buys 240s and parts them out pretty much as a 2nd job. Then again i'm basing it off prior experiences and I loathed it. f*ck that ford ranger..

[Dottie]

 

What's the rationale behind the door bar design? Far as I can see they're just going to add weight for no real gain in rigidity.

Not really sure what his rationale is on it. It all looks a bit jungle-gymish and overally heavy to me compared to a normal 6 point. He's definitely more of an engineer than me (makes billet aluminum drop spindles for Miatas and S-chassis. Has the Miata with the bellcrank hyabusa shock setup), so I won't question what he feels is safe.

 

Its to help with side collision safety since the only thing separating the occupant from outside is a piece of sheet metal (assuming the car had its weight reduced by taking out the interior components).

 

Adding the the door bars will increase the overall rigidity of the vehicle if properly designed.

 

A bit off but...

Since NASCARs habe no doors, they dont need to make that dip down in the roll cage allowing for more strength

Edited February 20, 2015 by Winning001

[sivispacem]

Its to help with side collision safety since the only thing separating the occupant from outside is a piece of sheet metal (assuming the car had its weight reduced by taking out the interior components).

 

I'm not talking about the main door bars, which are pretty clear in their purpose. I'm talking about the bracing around the A-pillar bars down to the door bars, in line with the side windows.

 

It looks to me like he's trying to mitigate the bend that's been put in the A-pillar bars to tuck behind the dash by triangulating between them and the door bars. A better solution would have been to go through the bulkhead and brace across the towers as then he'd distribute the force across the front of the chassis instead of basically making a safety cell in the middle. Looking at the angled, braced secondary A-pillar bar that kinks as it crosses the door bar, I'm really not convinced that it would actually add any rigidity in an impact and the angle of the join might actually do more harm than good. In a heavy corner impact that bent the A-pillar I could foresee all the force of impact being focused on the centre of the crossed door bars, pushing them out into the door and letting the A-pillar and associated cage bar come forward into the cell. There's also a risk in making a safety cage too rigid, as then the only thing that will absorb impact and g-force in a crash is the squishy ball of flesh inside.

[Argonaut]

More on the topic of engine swaps comes Project RADBUL: modifying the usually neglected MX-5 Mk3 by adding a custom-built Twin Turbo 26B Rotary in it. Photos below, but read the full report which was just finished here: http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/02/project-radbul-mad-mikes-26b-tt-mx-5-comes-alive/Only the bodywork todo next. Personally I think most cars deserve one madman build to their name, and this doesn't fall short on that in the slightest- infact it's probably the best thing that will ever come to the MK3 MX-5 at all.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2015 by Argonaut

[Lurch]

Who the f*ck calls a Miata a mk anything? It's a goddamn NC!

[epoxi]

Who the f*ck calls a Mazda a Miata anything? It's a goddamn MX-5!