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GTAV Original Mystery File Archive


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Hey Guys new to this site and forum so will not clutter to much.

 

I understand theres alot of mysteries out there within LS, But one strange place i have found is the secret hatch on the ocean floor on the east side of Los Santos i understand alot of you may already be aware of this with the MORSE CODE theory as there is a definitive sound coming from the hatch as you get close (but it lies just inside the crush depth zone) could this be possable as follows:-

 

  1. the morse code is translated to a numerical format you have to ring on your smart phone at a certain location.

2. morse code could be related to the research lab due to it being the closest Gov building with in that area.

 

I aint morse code competent but dont want people to feel like im humping and dumping the workload on to others its just an idea that my abilitie can not complete but am really keen to find the secret that R* have taken so much time to hide and implement within the game.

 

 

cheers guys

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Chiliad means a group of 1000 or a period of 1000 years.

 

No it doesn't.

 

Just a thought with regard the "Chiliad", I was watching some old youtube vids on the Easter eggs of vice city and San Andreas and it states in one about San Andreas (part 2 ) that Chiliad is the surname of one of the in game artists. So perhaps the chiliad reference is nothing more than that.....?

Of course I cannot be certain, but thought it was worth a mention

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Hey Guys new to this site and forum so will not clutter to much.

 

I understand theres alot of mysteries out there within LS, But one strange place i have found is the secret hatch on the ocean floor on the east side of Los Santos i understand alot of you may already be aware of this with the MORSE CODE theory as there is a definitive sound coming from the hatch as you get close (but it lies just inside the crush depth zone) could this be possable as follows:-

 

  1. the morse code is translated to a numerical format you have to ring on your smart phone at a certain location.

2. morse code could be related to the research lab due to it being the closest Gov building with in that area.

 

I aint morse code competent but dont want people to feel like im humping and dumping the workload on to others its just an idea that my abilitie can not complete but am really keen to find the secret that R* have taken so much time to hide and implement within the game.

 

 

cheers guys

 

Hi buddy,

 

I'm pretty sure the morse code was decoded, but you can have a read here http://gtaforums.com/topic/604880-underwater-hatch-morse-code-lets-decode-it/?hl=morse

 

A good thought though, and I'm not a 100% sure its been tried. The code is posted on the other thread so it may be worth taking note and trying different conversions

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I posted this on another thread, but thought I'd also post it here:

 

Has anyone deciphered the code that encircles the hippie camp?

 

I was going to post a picture of what I'm talking about, but can't share my snapmatic pictures from my phone apparently...

 

I'm referring to the string of symbols on the concrete hump that goes around the hippie camp. The very first time i saw them, I thought it had to be some kind of code... Then, upon exploring the area, I found a "key" to this code, further arousing my suspicions. However, I'm not having much luck getting past the one clue I have. On the rear bumper of the station wagon with the ufo, there are the words "save" & "us" transposed over two of the "words" in the code...

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Anyone?

There was another thread dedicated to this idea. They mention that there's only 5 glyphs, with some repeated upside-down, which lends weight to them only being cosmetic window dressing.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/623632-alien-writing/

 

I had another idea about some of the hippie camp pictures of aliens getting freaky actually being a disguised map, but I couldn't find anywhere that matched up.

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TO GET THE JETPACK!!! Bring TREVOR AND MICHEAL inside the green light at Fort Zancudo using the heath cheat

so that they don't die, You will get a 4 star wanted level

Stay as Trevor and keep shooting the military guys to hold them off( wait for everyone's health cheat to expire AS Trevor inside the green light)

Micheal will get shot(after the health cheat expired and he will obviously lose most of his health) and right after use Trevor's special ability.

There will be a cut-scene

Trevor will try to save Micheal again just like in the beginning by getting him to safety.

Trevor will drag him in front of the elevator and try to open the elevator to save Micheal's life.

After the cut-scene it will say SHOOT DOWN THE ELEVATOR

Use Trevor's special ability and start shooting at the elevator. Use a machine gun and shoot it everywhere

It will somewhat open enough for Trevor to drag Micheal inside (cut-scene)

After the cut-scene it will say FIND THE JETPACK

There will be a scientist , point your gun at him/scare and he will take you to the jetpack through 10s of doors/gates.

You will get the jetpack and head to Trevor's trailer.

 

THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN GET IT

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Has it been proven that the symbol is really an eye? I think the "eye" is supposed to be a ufo...could change the direction of the search.

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Someone posted this

 

TO GET THE JETPACK!!!

 

Source? Asking because it sounds fishy.

 

 

 

Oh, and thanks to everyone who got the other thread temp locked (I hope) because they can't just ignore the trolls.

 

:facedesk:

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Does seem like a lot, but i do like the idea that their special abilities have something to do with it, maybe try certain theories with similar ability I.e. Trevor shooting hat at chicken farm with ability?

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Hey all, was up on top of the ufo above fort zancudo and noticed English written text all over the thing! The word "DANGER" is stamped on every intake on the craft along with several red arrows marking where they are located.. But, more interestingly the words "SEGREGATE AND REARRANGE" are stamped above the front window of the canopy aswel as on the sides of the ship. After an hour of bashing "y" to get inside here I am lol. Not sure what this means, if anything, but it must be there for a reason.

 

Here's the pics I took from the in game phone..

 

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That UFO text has already been discovered, I'm afraid. Someone re-arranged the letters in SEGREGATE AND REARRANGE to make the anagram "EASTER EGG NEAR GRAND EAR". They thought 'grand ear' might be a reference to the satellite relay.

As regards to the whole jetpack hunt, I think there's only useful idea left to try:

Go to the top of Mt. Chiliad at 3am in a thunderstorm, with gold medals for all main missions AND gold for all strangers and freaks missions.

Can anyone confirm that this has been tried? I've almost got all silvers for both categories, but I'm getting sick of the constant loading/reloading, to be honest...

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The member stang50 (I think that's how you spell it) in the Decoding thread has all golds and said nothing new has happened. He hasn't tried looking at the UFO's yet though, but if I had to guess, I would say that nothing is going to change.

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Ahh damm it! Lol... Thought I was onto something there.

 

Anybody read the 9th Paradigm? There's one thing that caught my eye, "nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the Apple tree that becomes a dove" ... So, is the peach tree that "flows upwards" a jetpack? And is the Apple tree that " becomes a dove" a pilotable ufo??

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what mystery are u guys trying to solve? the ufos are it. whats left the infinite 8 is solved everything is solved what are u guys talking about?


Ahh damm it! Lol... Thought I was onto something there.

Anybody read the 9th Paradigm? There's one thing that caught my eye, "nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the Apple tree that becomes a dove" ... So, is the peach tree that "flows upwards" a jetpack? And is the Apple tree that " becomes a dove" a pilotable ufo??

are u smoking crack? you get all that from a game lol you related to david kiresh?


The member stang50 (I think that's how you spell it) in the Decoding thread has all golds and said nothing new has happened. He hasn't tried looking at the UFO's yet though, but if I had to guess, I would say that nothing is going to change.

thats because ufos are it . rockstar says the next story dlc will be in 2014 or what dont you guys get? that thick headed to be the first to find nothing? lol


btw rockstar already confirmed no flyable ufo in several support messages u dum dums what are u trying to find lol

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what mystery are u guys trying to solve? the ufos are it. whats left the infinite 8 is solved everything is solved what are u guys talking about?

Ahh damm it! Lol... Thought I was onto something there.

 

Anybody read the 9th Paradigm? There's one thing that caught my eye, "nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the Apple tree that becomes a dove" ... So, is the peach tree that "flows upwards" a jetpack? And is the Apple tree that " becomes a dove" a pilotable ufo??

are u smoking crack? you get all that from a game lol you related to david kiresh?

The member stang50 (I think that's how you spell it) in the Decoding thread has all golds and said nothing new has happened. He hasn't tried looking at the UFO's yet though, but if I had to guess, I would say that nothing is going to change.

thats because ufos are it . rockstar says the next story dlc will be in 2014 or what dont you guys get? that thick headed to be the first to find nothing? lol

 

btw rockstar already confirmed no flyable ufo in several support messages u dum dums what are u trying to find lol

u sure like to suck off cockstars ****

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LOL!.. David koresh, ffs.... Um no, and no lol.. to be fair neither the existence, or non-existence of a flyable ufo and or jetpack has been conclusively proven. If ALL r* employees knew about this then the details would have leaked weeks ago.

 

Either way it's been fun hunting and dare I say the hunt is far from over

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You guys notice certain music starts playing when you are close to the building in the altruist camp? The one with power lines leading to it and sat dish on top. Also have you guys try using stun gun on power boxes near easter eggs?

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Yeah I've noticed this, also if you approach the camp with a buzzard, missiles equipped, it locks onto the people in the camp.. not noticed this anywhere else in the game at any point. Thought it was strange that they lock onto people on foot.. gonna go back there n test out your stun gun theory when I get back on, literally tried every other weapon lol

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i dont know if this helps or not but my friend and i wall breached into the humane facilities and we found an elevator with -1 on the floor screen just like zancundos, and we also found a actual -1 floor in the place, we looked around the floor and its full of experimental stuff. possibly relevant?

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Great find jaykay127!

 

I really think all this is far form solved, along with the Infinite 8 killer, numbers station easter egg and others.

 

What does interest me is that the hatch is located near the government security agency along with a sunken cargo ship that appears that it was torpedoed.There are also several reports coming up of a mysterious, extremely fast black jet killing people even when they have no stars.

 

As of this moment i'm searching around the northern-westernly corner of the map to see if that number stations myth is real (seams plausible in my opinion).

 

Also what West33 said about the French GTA V player thing seems plausible as well, this is the site he was referring to http://secret-gta5.blogspot.fr/

 

Keep up all the good work guys! hopefully we can keep this thread unlocked!

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This thread is the continuation of the Decoding the Mount Chilliad Mural thread. If you have any additions to submit, feel free to PM a staff member.

A Few Ground Rules:

Keep it on topic.
Do not quote long image trains, instead quote the urls.
Keep the discussion civil, so no mud throwing or anything of that sort.
Do not respond to trolls disruptive members or the like, report them.

Summary of previous topic:

 

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List of tried ideas
http://gtaforums.com...ta-5-mysteries/
Additional info
http://gtavmystery.blogspot.co.nz/

Box UFO= UFO glyph
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I haven't been able to find the other glyphs on the mountain yet, if the pattern holds true we should be able to find two more glyphs, the cracked egg and the red X above it. The jet pack may be found (could just be another glyph) after overlaying the Mount Chiliad mural on the mountain.

Has anyone found more glyphs other then the ones I found on Mount Chiliad?


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Final glyph found?

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UFO glyph location map
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Current lead:

Based the the UFO glyph locations I believe the search needs to be focused on the west side of Mount Chiliad.
I think the underwater UFO confirms the idea since it matches the box UFO symbol.
The boxed items in the mural may be underwater objects.

Summary of GTA V Easter Eggs and Mysteries topic:

 

Things we know :

Glyphs

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At various area in the game world there are Glyphs. These are markings in either red or yellow paint that provide information to the player. The glyphs show under what conditions that UFOs hidden in the map will spawn.

The majority of the markings are on the western side of Mount Chiliad. The mural in the cable car station at the summit of Mount Chiliad indicates where these glyphs are to be found.

A glyph has been found in the Grand Senora desert that links a UFO appearance to the Sculpture Park that appears in the south east of the desert.

The Glyphs also appear inside and on the bottom of the hill below the Altruist Camp. In fact, they appear here so prevalently that the Altruists are believed to have painted them.

UFOs

There are four known instances of UFOs appearing within the game.

Underwater

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LOCATION

A crashed UFO is underwater of the northern coast of the map, slightly east of the islands on the northern tip. It is believed to be the spaceship that Omega refers to when he says one exploded and scattered spaceship part collectibles around the map.

On Mount Chiliad

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LOCATION

What is believed to be a hologram of a UFO appears at the top of Mount Chiliad at 3 am on a stormy night when you have completed the game 100% (not true 100%). It is believed to be a hologram as it does not react to bullets or explosions and disappears if you get too close. However, it is unknown from where this hologram is projected although it is possible that the Movie Studio in Vinewood is related in some way.

The glyphs on the western side of Mt Chiliad state the conditions for this to appear and further clues including a UFO shaped glyph under the viewing platform at the top and a sign on the far side of the platform stating "Return when your story is complete" also show conditions to make this UFO spawn. It is likely that this is a government made or MIB style UFO as it has FIB (the in game FBI) written on it.

The conditions for it to appear are -

100% game completion

It is raining

It is 3am

Above the Sculpture Park

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LOCATION

After completing the game to 100% (not true 100%) a UFO spawns above the Sculpture Park in Grand Senora. This is the same model used for the crashed UFO and the Mount Chiliad UFO (as well as used within some cut scenes within the game) but it is a physical object within the world. It is currently impossible to enter the UFO.

Above Fort Zancudo

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LOCATION

At 3am, a strange green light forms a shape on top of a bunker within Fort Zancudo. This shape is similar to one found on front of a building in San Andreas. This light is cast by a UFO that looks significantly different to the other models on the map. It is likely that this is a prototype for an advanced stealth plane based upon technology recovered from the crashed UFO (one mission tells you about a submariner who was hired to collect something from the bottom of the sea only to die in a freak 'accident' shortly after). Upon this UFO is written Rearrange and Segregate. If you rearrange the letters in the word segregate it makes Easter Egg. This UFO cannot currently be entered.

Ghost

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LOCATION

At 11pm-12pm on Mt Gordo on the eastern side of the map, the ghost of a murdered woman appears floating above the word Jock written in blood. She is the ghost of the ex-wife of Jock Cranley, the Vinewood Stuntman turned Conservative candidate for Governor. This is shown on the ingame website www.whokilledleonorajohnson.com

Bigfoot

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During a mission called Predator, you have the opportunity to view people in a forest using a thermal camera on a helicopter. Very briefly, the distinct heat signature of Bigfoot appears before disappearing. In a later mission after the main story arc is complete, you get to bump into someone pretending to be Bigfoot, a reference to a mission in the Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare add-on, where you make the Sasquatches extinct.

Snowman

In the Fridgit warehouse in East Los Santos, you'll notice the door is slightly open. Approach the door and peek through the gap with a sniper rifle, you may see a large Snowman, enjoying the cool atmosphere!

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Infinite 8 killer
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Around the Gran Senora desert and Sandy Shores are numerous wall writings from someone dubbed the Infinite 8 Killer. It's believed to be a former resident of Sandy Shores called Merle Abrahams who became obsessed with the number 8 and the Ouroboros symbol for infinity. His drawings and writings have led players to believe he has murdered 8 people as part of a ritual and dumped the bodies in the ocean surrounding the islands on the very northern tip of the map.

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Thelma and Louise

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LOCATION

Travel to the location above between 7pm and 8pm every night and you will see a great reference to the ending of the film Thelma & Louise. The protagonists car is at the end of the cliff face opposite and there will be a number of police cars and a helicopter behind it. As a police officer slowly walks towards the car it suddenly drives forward and off the cliff.

Grease



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LOCATION

In the LS River at around 21:00 you can see a drag race take place. This refers to the drag race that took place in the LA river in the film Grease.

Alien

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At the beginning of the game, you're in a Northern US town of North Yankton escaping from the police. Take a detour offroad and drive along the frozen stream under the bridge. Frozen in the ice of the stream is an alien, similar to those seen later in the main storyline.

Secrets on the Special Edition Map

If you bought the Special Edition of GTA V you got a nifty blueprint map with it. Hold this under a UV light and you will see Trevor Phillips has written some helpful hints. The markings and writings highlight some of the collectible weapons, spaceship parts, letter scraps and submarine parts within the game world as well as showing where some of the military vehicles are kept. Unfortunately, the map does not indicate anything further.

Underwater Hatch

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LOCATION

On the eastern side of the map, underwater is a white structure set into the sea bed. There is a small rectangular window set into the top of this, which lights up when the player draws near. This is believed to be a reference to a structure called The Hatch in the TV show Lost. However, this structure was in the jungle in the TV show and not at the bottom of the sea. The purpose of this structure, if any, is unknown.

When you approach the hatch you will hear a tapping noise, as if someone was tapping the glass in the door. This tapping is morse code and, when translated, reads "Hey, you never call, how d'you fancy going bowling" which is a reference to the character Roman Bellic from GTA IV who would famously call the protagonist Nico quite often to see if he would like to go bowling.



Things we aren't sure of :

Mount Chiliad mural

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In the cable car station at the summit of Mount Chiliad is an odd mural that seems to indicate a series of hidden passages within the mountain that lead to a UFO, a Cracked Egg and a Jetpack.
Notice the Jetpack & UFO are connected together. Why ? We don't know

There are a number of squares that contains X's above the symbols for these three items and above the summit is a Glyph that has been seen before referring to a UFO.

The shape of the mural is a reference to the Illuminati pyramid and All Seeing Eye which is found on US currency. The boxes containing Xs mark the locations of a number of the glyphs found on the western side of Mt Chiliad, as mentioned above.

It is unknown what relevance the symbols at the bottom of the mural have as no jetpack or cracked egg has yet been found. It is possible that each symbol refers to one of the three flying UFOs found around the map.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU TEST ANY THEORIES OUT BEFORE POSTING THEM

Agents/MIBs

On Mt Gordo slightly north of the quarry there is a cabin next to a radio tower. At certain times of day you will find a civilian in a workman's outfit accompanied by a number of men dressed in suits and shades with a black van nearby.

At certain times of day, you will see at least one civilian in a lab coat accompanied by a number of the same suit wearing civilians around the radio telescope array in the desert area of the map. These are believed to be FIB agents and seem to indicate a darker hidden backstory to the telescope array and towers. No other sightings have been found, but it can be noted that one of the radio telescopes points towards Fort Zancudo, maybe it's locked on to the UFO there?

Epsilon/Illuminati

As in GTA San Andreas, the Epsilon cult (a spoof of Scientology) exist in the game world. In fact, you can even do missions for them which can result in you gathering ten 'tracts' (religious documents) for them. On the GTA Social Club stats page, there are apparently 15 tracts to collect, not the ten advised of within the game. It is unknown if further tracts do exist or whether or not Rockstar have made a mistake in the stat or have released a hint at further DLC or GTA Online.

The Epsilon Sect and the Illuminati may well be considered one and the same within GTA V. There are numerous references around the game world of structures forming the shape of an eye, referencing the All Seeing Eye of the Illuminati as well as of Pyramids. The Epsilon sect has their symbol on the San Andreas state symbol, much like the Illuminati do on US currency.

It is unknown whether or not the Epsilon/Illuminati have any other impact on the game other than the set missions or adding a general feel to the environment.

Unproven items and fakes

Jetpack photos

Any photos of characters wearing a jetpack are to be considered fake unless accompanied by a location the jetpack was found, video footage and multiple photographs at different angles, as well as confirmation from other sources.

Tunnel in Mount Chiliad

There is a tunnel through the mountain the Altruists reside on as you drive towards the Altruists. This contains two doors that say T01 and T02. These doors are standard textures/objects that seem to appear in all tunnels and have no significance. The keypads reported on the doors that spark when shot react the same as any type of electrical equipment in the game. These numbers match with T1 and T2 on the FIB and IAA building rooftops, but no further link has been established.

There are also pictures of what is believed to be another access point within the area of the mountain, what looks like a large storm drain that leads to a T junction. This is inaccessible at the moment and so is not believed to have any relevance as an entry point but just serves as a drainage channel.

SSTV

A video has been doing the rounds of a 'numbers station' and weird noise playing at a certain point in the sea in the north west of the map. When played through a decoder, this has given a picture of a HUD of an Apache gun camera. This has not been further verified by any player and is considered to be fake until proven otherwise.

Waterfall tunnel

In the northern of the two water courses that lead west out of the Alamo Sea there is a waterfall, behind which photos have shown the possibility of a tunnel. This tunnel just can't seem to be accessed at all so is likely a texture glitch unless proved otherwise. NB It may be possible to block this particular waterfall with a log seen near to the top. This has yet to be tried.

Dinosaur

A video has done the rounds on Youtube showing a person shooting the Dinosaur Model at the roadside cafe in the eye, travelling to the quarry and then dialling DINOSAUR on their ingame phone. This then appears to spawn a T-Rex in the distance. This is fake. The creator of the video is a Visual Effects artist and created this simply as a pran.

The second hatch

Many people have reported seeing a second hatch underwater off the western part of the map. This is not a hatch but is used in the Merryweather Heist as the location of an object collected by Trevor by submarine. It has no further signioficance.

The Alien Egg

Several people have reported an 'alien egg' underwater underneath the Sonar Docks. This is not an egg but a giant clam.

The Glowing Tree/UFO shape

There have been reports of a tree glowing yellow and a red UFO shape on a hillside that disappears at a certain angle. These are merely texture glitches and have not appeared since the patch.

Grave on the mountain

There is a grave on thwe top of the mountain south of the lighthouse on the eastern coast. This is the grave of the mother of the owner of the Lighthouse Cottage and is referred to when colelcting her as part of a Strangers and Freaks hitchhiker mission.

Areas of interest

There are many areas of interest within the game world that you may miss completely or simply ignore. Here is a non-definitive list

Fort Zancudo

The Prison

The two outdoor theatres

The dams and reservoirs

Mt Josiah

The Quarry

The Altruists Camp

The Observatory

The Airport

Mt Chiliad

The Telescope Array

Grove Street

Sandy Shores

FOR THE JETPACK HUNT :

WHAT WE'VE TRIED THAT DOESN'T WORK

-Anything related to the space docker - Rockstar have confirmed that the Space Docker does not relate to an Easter Egg

- Putting heavy vehicles over the UFOs

- Overlay of the Mt.Chiliad Mural on the map seems to lead to nothing.

- Calling any telephone numbers. There is only hold music, not elevator music as some people believe.

- All tunnels under Mt.Chiliad are there for decoration.

-Calling Omega during the UFOs sightings or take a picture to send him doesn't work.

OTHERS

-The glowing tree (aka golden tree) is a texture bug.

-The glowing UFO shape on a hillside is a texture glitch.

Please note - Easter eggs are just fun little things to discover and enjoy for the sake of them being there. Rockstar have not spent the years of development in this game making a hugely elaborate scheme just to hide a possible object. Do not take this too seriously.

Some locations in the Single Player map are accessible because they are required for missions in GTA Online, eg the Fort Zancudo Control Tower and elevator. Just because you can access it does not mean it is relevant.

GTA V will be absolutely full of references to popular culture, including their own games. There are references to Rockstars own games, popular books, films, radio shows, music, etc all made subtley throughout the game. The only references that will be laid out in this guide are those which are physical and time based, eg the Thelma and Louise egg.

 


For people who want a sure way of getting a storm, i think i can help... before knowing about ursula and really wanting to see the chiliad ufo (didnt want to use cheats) i decided the only way i could quickly cycle the weather was just getting in and out of bed lol or saving over and over... boring as hell but get into bed, save, look out the window and decide if you think its dull enough for a storm... this way i got full storms and rain and stuff naturally and didnt take too long... the tricky bit is judging the sky and if a storm will come, sometimes i have saved and just caught the end of a storm and other times i ran out the house as it was a really dark sky but no rain and after a few mins the rain started and the lightning strikes and it lasted like 6 ingame hours, so i obviously caught the beggining of it just by running out to a dark sky... anyway hope this helps, its the only way i know 100% gets results.

Also just thought i would repost this from the other topic, didnt want it to be lost... my thoughts on the mural...


this is @everyone and what I think we should all be focusing on right now...

basically im gonna give you guys all the info we have and a bit more besides so we can attack this thing as a group...

the mural and glyphs are the only things we can 100% say have something to do with this all so i feel like this should be our main focus and direction at this point...

ok, on to the good stuff...

mount chiliad... (i'll get to the hippy painted camp glyphs after)


so we know, so far we have the mural (not posting another pic we have all seen it lol) and can pretty much say that the red eye (under the viewing deck) is the red eye on top of the mural...

great so we have a starting point... (gonna come back to the mural in a minute)

onto the glyphs...

we know we have 5 glyphs on the mountain side, we know these as:

mountain/zigzag glyph
rain cloud glyph
moon glyph
faded glyph
half glyph

well im gonna change how we know these glyphs a bit...

in the files they are called:

mountain01 clue
rain01 clue
moon01 clue
rain02 clue
moon02 clue

so we pretty much guessed that the mountain01 was zigzag glyph, rain01 was rain cloud, moon01 was the moon glyph and the other 2 were the faded and half glyphs...

it wasn't until recently when talkol and glokon made us some handy things for searching coordinates that we could be sure which was which... however I haven't seen anyone pick up on this yet, so...

here is which glyph is which and what rockstar called them, also their exact locations...

note: a "hash code" is what the game uses to recognise which file is which... talkol extracted these for us... (also, sorry for links and not pics this damn forum doesn't want to work for me lol cant paste or get the img attach thing to work.)

mountain/zigzag glyph - (name) cs1_10_clue_mountain01 - (coords) x366.4871, y5518.0742, z704.3185 - (hash code) 0xB28FA02A
http://i.imgur.com/Drxps1b.jpg


rain cloud glyph - (name) cs1_10_clue_rain01 - (coords) x400.7087, y5714.5645, z605.0978 - (hash code) 0x2AB27427
http://i.imgur.com/jJIUGIP.jpg


moon glyph - (name) cs1_10_clue_moon01 - (coords) x228.7844, y5370.5850, z577.2614 - (hash code) 0x112B82C2
http://i.imgur.com/x4MozEM.jpg


faded glyph - (name) cs1_10_clue_rain02 - (coords) x703.4420, y6329.8936, z76.4973 (hash code) 0x190BD0DA
http://i.imgur.com/jlgkVH5.jpg


half glyph - (name) cs1_10_clue_moon02 - (coords) x51.3909, y5957.7568, z209.6140 - (hash code) 0x2779AF5E
http://i.imgur.com/c3w6Suq.jpg


ok so there are the glyphs and here is the map of the locations:
http://tools.glokon....-map/s/NsQb882/
(thanks to glokon for the map)


so we now know that the faded glyph is referred to as rain02 and the half glyph is moon02... you can say 2 things about this discovery...

1. they are just called that as they use a part of rain01 texture and moon01 texture.

or

2. the rain cloud and faded glyph are connected... and the moon glyph and half glyph are connected.


well option 1. pretty much leads to a dead end and means the glyphs all lead to the chiliad UFO and the hippy camp glyphs just refer to the 2 main conditions to see the chiliad UFO and the sand glyph is just saying there are more clues at the hippy camp and on the mountain...

for me though this option has holes... why the 3 boxes at the bottom? egg=chiliad UFO easter egg cracked (I can buy that) ufo=the hippy camp UFO like the little one on the car (I can buy that) ?jetpack?=zancudo UFO? as that's where the jetpack was in SA (I don't buy that one myself) ...

then we have the lines on the mural...just decoration or maybe paths to reach the glyphs? (hmm still doesn't seem a good explanation to me)

if you are an option 1. believer and wont be convinced otherwise then I'd stop reading here cos its about to get heavy lol


I personally want to believe option 2. (the rain cloud glyph(rain01) and faded glyph(rain02) are connected and the moon glyph(moon01) and the half glyph(moon02) are connected)

my theory on this is as follows...

(this is where I come back to the mural lol sorry for long post we are getting there)

basically we have people who believe the mural has to fit exactly to overlay it and others who say its a 2d rep of a 3d mountain so wont fit exactly just roughly...

I believe the latter... we are never going to get an exact match...

but we can get enough info from it to split the Xs on the mural (which I think are the glyphs on chiliad)

the line down the middle seems to split the glyphs in half 3 on the ?jetpack? side and 2 on the UFO side (the line down the middle just referencing chiliad as, the place with the red eye, that you can see the UFO(cracked easter egg) ...

the lines on the UFO side of the mural (left) seem to be saying either...

2 glyphs at the place with the UFO (hippy painted camp and the rain and moon glyphs there)

or that 2 glyphs on the mountain are to do with the UFO box in some way...

I believe the latter again but im sure others would believe the first... (i'll explain why in a second)

then we have the lines on the ?jetpack? side of the mural (right) which many argue mean nothing important, but again I believe there are 3 glyphs to do with the ?jetpack? box...

(i'll also explain in a second why I say ?jetpack? and not just jetpack lol)

ok my way of laying the mural on the glyphs and splitting the glyphs in half...

I believe the rain01 and rain02 glyphs (cloud and faded glyphs) are to do with the UFO side of the mural and the mountain, moon01 and moon02 glyphs (zigzag, moon and half glyphs) are to do with the ?jetpack? side of the mural

easiest way for me to explain is with a picture (sorry for the bad mspaint job lol)
http://i.imgur.com/Fji4pc4.png

(again sorry for links)

ok sooo...

as you see its nothing new (the overlay direction) but splitting the glyphs in this way is my main theory... I would then like to back that up with another observation...(back to painted hippy camp) the hippy camp glyphs and sand glyph...

I think the sand glyph is a clue that the hippy camp and chiliad are related in some way...

so... the hippy glyphs... (we have found in the files and don't tell us anything we didn't already know like name... they are moon and rain lol)

but there is one big thing staring us in the face... the colours!!

the moon glyph is yellow and the rain glyph is red... just confusing since they are on different colour backgrounds...

so with this "split the glyphs in half theory" (which many of you have been talking about recently) the hippy camp supports the idea with glyphs split apart by the 2 mounds and in 2 different colours...

now I have 2 ideas in conclusion to my long ass post...

1. (most unlikely but funny and thought inducing) the egg is clucking bell and the UFO is the sunken one... the ?jetpack? (I will now explain why I said ?jetpack?) is...

this guy ---> http://i.imgur.com/OE2DDjo.jpg

(LMAO)(see an axe in the jetpack man pic anyone?)

could well be the jetpack man is the altruist camp though as that is the same sort of distance from cluckin bell as the sunken UFO (this is more likely that the axe man lol just thought he looked interesting standing there)

and 2. (which I am a fan of) is that the egg box is the chiliad UFO easter egg (most clues/gluphs can be used for this box to crack the easter egg) or the egg is the sunken UFO easter egg (my pic could move the yellow line around to the sunken UFO and still fit the "split in half" theory)

the UFO box is a reference to the hippy painted camp (as said by many including anevilvet) I can see that being correct as the mural UFO box looks a lot like the UFO on the car there.

and the jetpack is in fact fort zancudo... (why a jetpack I don't know, hopefully the mountain glyph, moon glyph and half glyph can help find out why)

I believe those references are right... but that's where I stop agreeing with you guys who think that is all the mural is saying...

I think the 2 and 3 separated glyphs are our clues to each place...

hippy camp is rain and faded glyphs related (what happens to paint in the rain? lol just saying or it could be saying eye above the clouds??)

and fort zancudo is related to the mountain, moon and half glyphs (we can see the UFO from the mountain and never been much talk about moon phase and zancudo... again just saying... or could be more literal like on a half moon look up at the zancudo UFO from the mountain lol)


so there you have it... some new facts to play with and a new theory to pull apart and do what you wish with...

took me forever to write this all out (please cut the quotes down) but I hope you all may have got something from it.

whatever you believe we need to get our heads together and decide an answer that is concrete!! not argue about things that can never be proven.

Edit: forgot to say... the last bit doesnt mean the ufo and jetpack boxes ARE zancudo and the hippy camp, it could be the movie studio (rocket man was a movie and thats about the strength of a jetpack area 69 connection to zancudo) could be the altruist camp like i said... (whats the opposite of sun everyone? MOON lol)

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Edit: @above... through the letter scraps and submarine waste missions... it was just stumbled upon.

 

Ok well let me kick this off with some info from the files topic... as some of you may have heard, new research may have unveiled some mention of a jetpack...

 

the situation is that reoze and XBLToothPik from the files topic have been working hard to get to the game scripts and understand them...

 

below is a nice explanation by our guy talkol of what needs to be done and how you can all get involved and help...

 

I'll get us started with the motivation part: how does this help the hunt?

 

Up until now, the file hunt focused on going over the static resources of the game - looking at models, textures, maps. This brought some great discoveries like the alien egg.

 

Many of you rightfully ask - so we might have an egg, now what? How does it connect to the game, what triggers its appearance.

 

The holy grail for this sort of knowledge is hidden away inside the various scripts in the game. The scripts hold the game logic, like: show chiliad ufo only if 3am and rain and game complete.

 

The problem with diving into the scripts is that it's an extremely difficult task and most of us (myself included), do not even attempt it. Our dear reoze has taken it upon himself. He is making progress, but he hit a wall, and he needs our help to overcome it.

 

When a script runs, it can perform various tasks. For example a script involving the chiliad ufo might need to check the current weather. This is performed using a "native". The problem is we don't have the names of these tasks, we only have their numbers (hashes). We plan to guess various names and hope they match the numbers we have.

 

Getting back to our script checking the weather.. What sort of names could this native have? Maybe get_current_weather or get_weather or is_raining or is_raining_weather.. We need to guess all of these, and that's where you come in.

 

If reoze has a full list of natives with meaningful names, he will be able to understand the scripts. And this will give us all the complex triggers we're after.

If you are interested please come to the game file mystery hunt topic...

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/656269-game-file-mystery-hunt/ (pages 40-43 are mostly about this research)

 

all relevent info and links can be found there... it is as simple as entering a hash and looking for a match but any questions can be directed toward the file hunters... there is also a nice website that was designed by glokon for us to use and even includes a leader board to see who has made the most matches...

 

http://gta5hasher.glokon.org/

 

Just register and you are ready to help in the hunt and prove your worth.

 

We need YOU!!

 

Thanks guys.

 

Merry christmas to everyone and cant believe you all got the topic locked lol

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Edit @above... many people have mentioned troubles but look closer and you will eventually see it... some say after the update it was harder to find... eventually though most found it... i recommend watching some youtube vids on how to find it :)

 

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Well hopefully we can start fresh and get things moving... just hope we dont lose any hunters or info in the topic switch...

 

Maybe we need a big update on this first page from someone explaining the vast amount of things tried and still open and promising leads... also do it in a way that doesnt overwhelm or discourage people from getting involved... if i had the time i would do it and if no one manages to do it i may edit one of my posts...

 

It could just help to keep things on track and stop repetitiveness in the thread.

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