The Concept Creators' Lounge

[ClaudX]

Well, it seems that I won't be working on GV as much as I hoped I would because school's taking up more time than I expected. So expect updates on the weekends usually.

[Pooyan Cyrus]

There's no problem with "Hot Wheels" specifically, I loved that tough Korean guy who shows a classic sharp type of a street racer, but I think how Kate involved with Alfie during the last mission was kinda rushed. I think it'd be better if it was NOT intentional. For example, Alfie takes Andre to a small bank for having him withdrawal some cash, at the same time Kate hits the same bank (we know Kate is a girl with "balls", right?). Kate leaves the bank with a duffel bag of money, and she holds Alfie in gunpoint and has him drive for her. In this point, Alfie must lose the upcoming cops and drops Kate at her home. Kate says him to come back later, so she can give him a cut from the heist, because he saved her ass from getting pinched, right? When Alfie pays Kate a visit at her home, Kate gives Alfie his cut, but at the same time Kate is informed about the driver who chickened out and left Kate behind on the job (yeah, this could be a good sub-plot). Kate's contact who is one of the organizers of the job tells her that the pussy driver has been found by the Feds, and he agrees to sing his little ditty. This would be a better beginning connection between Kate and Alfie. So Alfie accepts helping Kate with wiping out the rat. So they burst into his place, kill him and shove his body into the trunk of a car (this would be even Alfie's car), only to have it destroyed along with the corpse. I mean this would form a cause how Kate and Alfie get together, and how they can stick together for stiff jobs. Also in addition, if you make Alfie destroy his car along with the body, it would make Kate promise Alfie to help him get a new car, this would prolong their introduction story.

 

Now I just want to kill myself. Yes, I completely agree with you, Kate's involvement was exactly what I feel weird about.

I'm really regretful for posting that mission and don't know if posting next mission would be a good idea or not.

Btw, Kate "Has Balls"... Somebody stop me from laughing! That's really best phrase for describing her!

Well, it seems that I won't be working on GV as much as I hoped I would because school's taking up more time than I expected. So expect updates on the weekends usually.

 

How bad. Anyway I hope you'll not put GV in priority.

Edited August 21, 2014 by PooyanCyrus

[Liver Buster]

 

There's no problem with "Hot Wheels" specifically, I loved that tough Korean guy who shows a classic sharp type of a street racer, but I think how Kate involved with Alfie during the last mission was kinda rushed. I think it'd be better if it was NOT intentional. For example, Alfie takes Andre to a small bank for having him withdrawal some cash, at the same time Kate hits the same bank (we know Kate is a girl with "balls", right?). Kate leaves the bank with a duffel bag of money, and she holds Alfie in gunpoint and has him drive for her. In this point, Alfie must lose the upcoming cops and drops Kate at her home. Kate says him to come back later, so she can give him a cut from the heist, because he saved her ass from getting pinched, right? When Alfie pays Kate a visit at her home, Kate gives Alfie his cut, but at the same time Kate is informed about the driver who chickened out and left Kate behind on the job (yeah, this could be a good sub-plot). Kate's contact who is one of the organizers of the job tells her that the pussy driver has been found by the Feds, and he agrees to sing his little ditty. This would be a better beginning connection between Kate and Alfie. So Alfie accepts helping Kate with wiping out the rat. So they burst into his place, kill him and shove his body into the trunk of a car (this would be even Alfie's car), only to have it destroyed along with the corpse. I mean this would form a cause how Kate and Alfie get together, and how they can stick together for stiff jobs. Also in addition, if you make Alfie destroy his car along with the body, it would make Kate promise Alfie to help him get a new car, this would prolong their introduction story.

 

Now I just want to kill myself. Yes, I completely agree with you, Kate's involvement was exactly what I feel weird about.

I'm really regretful for posting that mission and don't know if posting next mission would be a good idea or not.

Btw, Kate "Has Balls"... Somebody stop me from laughing! That's really best phrase for describing her!

Maybe, she is a hermaphrodite!?

 

Considering that Kate is an important part of the story, I think you should consider rewriting that introductive mission before you get more progressive in the story. Yeah... Alfie would have seen her and said things like "Oh my God! What a nice girl. I'm in love with her.", but this doesn't mean Kate and Alfie need each other to run together. You should put a strong reason why Kate and Alfie start to do things together. This bank heist was just an idea how you can put a strong influence for this introductive plot, but you can feel free to use it if you want... I did write it for you after all. Look... just focus on what these characters are... Alfie has been a three-bit thief, foxy guy, and also a racer who tries to line his way in this sector. At the same time, Kane... ehh was an emotional girl who wasn't built for all this crime stuff. However, I guess her hard story with the Black Mob has toughened her and she started to grow some "balls" (). This is the way how I see these two characters. So, why Kate immediately would decide to become a street racer while she can take scores, perform contract killings for a living. I mean... just start to focus on these facts. Alfie would be the less brave but more clever, the foxy one of the group when at the same time Kate is the tough one, trying to spot her way by trying to be fierce. Try to show how these two interesting different characters could work as a group. Saying it again, I strongly advice you to rewrite the last mission down, before you pass more progress with the "Hot Wheels".

[Pooyan Cyrus]

 

 

There's no problem with "Hot Wheels" specifically, I loved that tough Korean guy who shows a classic sharp type of a street racer, but I think how Kate involved with Alfie during the last mission was kinda rushed. I think it'd be better if it was NOT intentional. For example, Alfie takes Andre to a small bank for having him withdrawal some cash, at the same time Kate hits the same bank (we know Kate is a girl with "balls", right?). Kate leaves the bank with a duffel bag of money, and she holds Alfie in gunpoint and has him drive for her. In this point, Alfie must lose the upcoming cops and drops Kate at her home. Kate says him to come back later, so she can give him a cut from the heist, because he saved her ass from getting pinched, right? When Alfie pays Kate a visit at her home, Kate gives Alfie his cut, but at the same time Kate is informed about the driver who chickened out and left Kate behind on the job (yeah, this could be a good sub-plot). Kate's contact who is one of the organizers of the job tells her that the pussy driver has been found by the Feds, and he agrees to sing his little ditty. This would be a better beginning connection between Kate and Alfie. So Alfie accepts helping Kate with wiping out the rat. So they burst into his place, kill him and shove his body into the trunk of a car (this would be even Alfie's car), only to have it destroyed along with the corpse. I mean this would form a cause how Kate and Alfie get together, and how they can stick together for stiff jobs. Also in addition, if you make Alfie destroy his car along with the body, it would make Kate promise Alfie to help him get a new car, this would prolong their introduction story.

 

Now I just want to kill myself. Yes, I completely agree with you, Kate's involvement was exactly what I feel weird about.

I'm really regretful for posting that mission and don't know if posting next mission would be a good idea or not.

Btw, Kate "Has Balls"... Somebody stop me from laughing! That's really best phrase for describing her!

Maybe, she is a hermaphrodite!?

 

Considering that Kate is an important part of the story, I think you should consider rewriting that introductive mission before you get more progressive in the story. Yeah... Alfie would have seen her and said things like "Oh my God! What a nice girl. I'm in love with her.", but this doesn't mean Kate and Alfie need each other to run together. You should put a strong reason why Kate and Alfie start to do things together. This bank heist was just an idea how you can put a strong influence for this introductive plot, but you can feel free to use it if you want... I did write it for you after all. Look... just focus on what these characters are... Alfie has been a three-bit thief, foxy guy, and also a racer who tries to line his way in this sector. At the same time, Kane... ehh was an emotional girl who wasn't built for all this crime stuff. However, I guess her hard story with the Black Mob has toughened her and she started to grow some "balls" ( ). This is the way how I see these two characters. So, why Kate immediately would decide to become a street racer while she can take scores, perform contract killings for a living. I mean... just start to focus on these facts. Alfie would be the less brave but more clever, the foxy one of the group when at the same time Kate is the tough one, trying to spot her way by trying to be fierce. Try to show how these two interesting different characters could work as a group. Saying it again, I strongly advice you to rewrite the last mission down, before you pass more progress with the "Hot Wheels".

 

I have a 'No' and a 'Yes' here.

No, fortunately she's not hermaphrodite! But, has grown "balls" on VMware!

Yes, "Black Mob Story" was somehow showing her bad days. She's now participating with another girl like herself. She has came Los Santos to do something you won't believe (or probably will believe as she has balls)!

 

 

Every creator should read this at least one time:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6031051/from-nightsticks-to-night-vision-a-visual-history-of-police-technology

[Liver Buster]

 

 

 

There's no problem with "Hot Wheels" specifically, I loved that tough Korean guy who shows a classic sharp type of a street racer, but I think how Kate involved with Alfie during the last mission was kinda rushed. I think it'd be better if it was NOT intentional. For example, Alfie takes Andre to a small bank for having him withdrawal some cash, at the same time Kate hits the same bank (we know Kate is a girl with "balls", right?). Kate leaves the bank with a duffel bag of money, and she holds Alfie in gunpoint and has him drive for her. In this point, Alfie must lose the upcoming cops and drops Kate at her home. Kate says him to come back later, so she can give him a cut from the heist, because he saved her ass from getting pinched, right? When Alfie pays Kate a visit at her home, Kate gives Alfie his cut, but at the same time Kate is informed about the driver who chickened out and left Kate behind on the job (yeah, this could be a good sub-plot). Kate's contact who is one of the organizers of the job tells her that the pussy driver has been found by the Feds, and he agrees to sing his little ditty. This would be a better beginning connection between Kate and Alfie. So Alfie accepts helping Kate with wiping out the rat. So they burst into his place, kill him and shove his body into the trunk of a car (this would be even Alfie's car), only to have it destroyed along with the corpse. I mean this would form a cause how Kate and Alfie get together, and how they can stick together for stiff jobs. Also in addition, if you make Alfie destroy his car along with the body, it would make Kate promise Alfie to help him get a new car, this would prolong their introduction story.

 

Now I just want to kill myself. Yes, I completely agree with you, Kate's involvement was exactly what I feel weird about.

I'm really regretful for posting that mission and don't know if posting next mission would be a good idea or not.

Btw, Kate "Has Balls"... Somebody stop me from laughing! That's really best phrase for describing her!

Maybe, she is a hermaphrodite!?

 

Considering that Kate is an important part of the story, I think you should consider rewriting that introductive mission before you get more progressive in the story. Yeah... Alfie would have seen her and said things like "Oh my God! What a nice girl. I'm in love with her.", but this doesn't mean Kate and Alfie need each other to run together. You should put a strong reason why Kate and Alfie start to do things together. This bank heist was just an idea how you can put a strong influence for this introductive plot, but you can feel free to use it if you want... I did write it for you after all. Look... just focus on what these characters are... Alfie has been a three-bit thief, foxy guy, and also a racer who tries to line his way in this sector. At the same time, Kane... ehh was an emotional girl who wasn't built for all this crime stuff. However, I guess her hard story with the Black Mob has toughened her and she started to grow some "balls" ( ). This is the way how I see these two characters. So, why Kate immediately would decide to become a street racer while she can take scores, perform contract killings for a living. I mean... just start to focus on these facts. Alfie would be the less brave but more clever, the foxy one of the group when at the same time Kate is the tough one, trying to spot her way by trying to be fierce. Try to show how these two interesting different characters could work as a group. Saying it again, I strongly advice you to rewrite the last mission down, before you pass more progress with the "Hot Wheels".

 

I have a 'No' and a 'Yes' here.

No, fortunately she's not hermaphrodite! But, has grown "balls" on VMware!

Yes, "Black Mob Story" was somehow showing her bad days. She's now participating with another girl like herself. She has came Los Santos to do something you won't believe (or probably will believe as she has balls)!

It's good to hear that. From upon, Kate somehow reminds me of Walter White from Breaking Bad. She has gone into a big transformation that will turn herself upside down, so for this reason, I can imagine how Kate could store some characteristics of an anti-hero. It's your call to do whatever you want, but it will probably always bug me out. I'm not saying "Don't involve Kate with street racing ever and never", but for now, she does not have any reason to grab some wheels and race. She can make a living for herself by some other ways, and probably she is doing it. There has to be a solid reason why Kate and Alfie are gonna get close, and eventually end up being a pair. It will not have exactly the same relationship (considering their characteristic) but in my way, you've a great potential to create the "Bonnie and Clyde" of the GTA universe, I would say... don't ruin it. Try to focus on Alfie and Kate's characteristics, and show them clearly to us please. To be honest, I'd like to see Kate as a wild one, as far as how I can see her for now.

Edited August 21, 2014 by TheUnholy

[ObsydianRaven]

I've been thinking about changing the plot theme of GTA: Aftermath to something we haven't seen before: Undercover cops and police corruption. The protagonist would be an undercover CCPD officer who becomes extremely corrupt as the plot goes on. My question is would it work?

Edited August 24, 2014 by ObsydianRaven

[gtamann123]

What's the current limit on the number of photos in a post? It used to be 15 but I'm pretty sure I have seen some posts with 20+ photos in them. I'm asking because I plan to include a photo for all of my characters

[Liver Buster]

I've been thinking about changing the plot theme of GTA: Aftermath to something we haven't seen before: Undercover cops and police corruption. The protagonist would be an undercover CCPD officer who becomes extremely corrupt as the plot goes on. My question is would it work?

Aftermath's protagonist was Terrance Haider, right?.. the guy impersonated by Josh Brolin. To be honest, I'd like to play as a character who has the coolness of Josh Brolin (even if he's just voiced by him, and his appearance is based on him). Also, that would be quite proper to play with a character like Haider who was a high-ranking member of a fallen drug syndicate just one year ago, and now he has to line his path in the criminal underworld, start over again.

 

I think that would be interesting and fit well, presuming that Carcer City has quite a history with police corruption, judging by the "Gary Schaffer" situation. At the same time, a corrupt police officer anti-hero will be cool, for sure. We have quite good examples, such as The Lieutenant from "Bad Lieutenant", Alonso Harris from "Training Day" (although he's the antagonist of the movie), Bob from "Sin City" (although I really didn't like the movie, Madsen's performance with this bad cop was perfect), McCluskey from "The Godfather" (an antagonist again, but a bent cop at best).

 

If your main cause is to stick with the police corruption idea, sure... it can work at the best, like I said, your setting is a plus to make it proper.

Edited August 24, 2014 by TheUnholy

[ObsydianRaven]

 

 

I've been thinking about changing the plot theme of GTA: Aftermath to something we haven't seen before: Undercover cops and police corruption. The protagonist would be an undercover CCPD officer who becomes extremely corrupt as the plot goes on. My question is would it work?

Aftermath's protagonist was Terrance Haider, right?.. the guy impersonated by Josh Brolin. To be honest, I'd like to play as a character who has the coolness of Josh Brolin (even if he's just voiced by him, and his appearance is based on him). Also, that would be quite proper to play with a character like Haider who was a high-ranking member of a fallen drug syndicate just one year ago, and now he has to line his path in the criminal underworld, start over again.

 

I think that would be interesting and fit well, presuming that Carcer City has quite a history with police corruption, judging by the "Gary Schaffer" situation. At the same time, a corrupt police officer anti-hero will be cool, for sure. We have quite good examples, such as The Lieutenant from "Bad Lieutenant", Alonso Harris from "Training Day" (although he's the antagonist of the movie), Bob from "Sin City" (although I really didn't like the movie, Madsen's performance with this bad cop was perfect), McCluskey from "The Godfather" (an antagonist again, but a bent cop at best).

 

If your main cause is to stick with the police corruption idea, sure... it can work at the best, like I said, your setting is a plus to make it proper.

 

Hmm, well I still would use the idea I came up with for Terrance to start all over again, but at the same time I want to do the corrupt undercover cop story. So perhaps the undercover cop story could be it's own DLC concept. This possible third DLC could take place in 1990, which culturally was still apart of the 80's, and could actually set up the events of Manhunt (How Starkweather got into power in the Carcer underworld, the start of his snuff film ring, show the crime James Earl Cash got the death penalty for, etc) in a very dark, and gritty story. Edited August 25, 2014 by ObsydianRaven

[Tyla]

I posted a trailer in Grand Theft Auto VI: Vice that you guys should check out. It features Miami Vice clips edited together with Movie Maker.

 

Obsydian man, are you still updating Carcer City? Haven't seen it in a while.

 

What's the current limit on the number of photos in a post? It used to be 15 but I'm pretty sure I have seen some posts with 20+ photos in them. I'm asking because I plan to include a photo for all of my characters

Try twenty if you've seen it. I've always gone by fifteen as the rule. And too many pictures is never a good thing.

 

More importantly, are you going to have twenty characters to post pictures of?

[ObsydianRaven]

Obsydian man, are you still updating Carcer City? Haven't seen it in a while.

I'll be updating it at some point later this week. I haven't had the chance to because I've been extremely busy with work and my personal life but I now finally have some free time.

Edited August 25, 2014 by ObsydianRaven

[Young Martini]

I'm working on something which's going to be perfect! I'm calling it GTA Liberty City. It's going to be amazing. Would love to have some help. But alone I'm ok too. Peace!

[Tyla]

All of us here can help you as much as you need. Plus you can request some pretty awesome logos and headers over at GFX requests.

 

We'll need to know some more about GTA Liberty City before we can help you exactly though. When is it going to be set, past or present day? Do you have an idea of the protagonist?

[Severe]

Just venting here, but: Am I the only one getting kinda annoyed at the recent bunch of low-effort 'concepts' being posted? I mean, none of us does this professionally or anything (I think?), but damn, at least put something together before posting and bring something new to the table.

[Young Martini]

All of us here can help you as much as you need. Plus you can request some pretty awesome logos and headers over at GFX requests.

 

We'll need to know some more about GTA Liberty City before we can help you exactly though. When is it going to be set, past or present day? Do you have an idea of the protagonist?

 

Of course, Tyla. It's set on 2014. I worked on the protagonist, everything is done about him I guess. I'm done with the gangs, now I'm working on the characters, and thinking for the other stuff (how to make it) and fortunately it's going good

[Young Martini]

You guys died? Lol

[Kafonix]

Can somebody tell my why almost nobody is commenting on my concept although I put 4 weeks of effort in it?

[The Harwood Bitcher]

Hello people

I need help for my own concept thread, i need songs for the following radio stations:

A classic music station

A jazz station

A pop music dtation

A modern rap station

A techno music station

An old school hip hop station

A country station

The reason i need help with these is because i don't know much about those genres,so any help will get appreciated (pm me, for the sake of not having this thread flooded with a wall of text)

Edited August 31, 2014 by The Harwood Bitcher

[Severe]

Can somebody tell my why almost nobody is commenting on my concept although I put 4 weeks of effort in it?

Well, I think the thread is a little weirdly structured, in general the layout could be better.

Also, while the whole wiki-thing is a good touch, I still think the actual post/thread should take priority. Maybe use the thread to outline stuff, with links to the wiki-for details, that could be useful for stuff like side-activites, the wanted system, maybe characters and areas as well.

[Kafonix]

 

Can somebody tell my why almost nobody is commenting on my concept although I put 4 weeks of effort in it?

Well, I think the thread is a little weirdly structured, in general the layout could be better.

Also, while the whole wiki-thing is a good touch, I still think the actual post/thread should take priority. Maybe use the thread to outline stuff, with links to the wiki-for details, that could be useful for stuff like side-activites, the wanted system, maybe characters and areas as well.

 

Thanks for the quick answer

 

What do you mean with "wierdly structured"? Should I include the information of the posts further in the thread in the first post?

[ClaudX]

Hello people

I need help for my own concept thread, i need songs for the following radio stations:

A classic music station

A jazz station

A pop music dtation

A modern rap station

A techno music station

An old school hip hop station

A country station

The reason i need help with these is because i don't know much about those genres,so any help will get appreciated (pm me, for the sake of not having this thread flooded with a wall of text)

What year is your concept taking place in?

[The Harwood Bitcher]

 

 

Hello people

I need help for my own concept thread, i need songs for the following radio stations:

A classic music station

A jazz station

A pop music dtation

A modern rap station

A techno music station

An old school hip hop station

A country station

The reason i need help with these is because i don't know much about those genres,so any help will get appreciated (pm me, for the sake of not having this thread flooded with a wall of text)

What year is your concept taking place in?Sorry i didn't specify, its gonna take place in 2014,but that dosen't matter because the radios dont have to be year specified (except the old school hip hop radio)

[ClaudX]

 

 

Hello people

I need help for my own concept thread, i need songs for the following radio stations:

A classic music station

A jazz station

A pop music dtation

A modern rap station

A techno music station

An old school hip hop station

A country station

The reason i need help with these is because i don't know much about those genres,so any help will get appreciated (pm me, for the sake of not having this thread flooded with a wall of text)

What year is your concept taking place in?

Sorry i didn't specify, its gonna take place in 2014,but that dosen't matter because the radios dont have to be year specified (except the old school hip hop radio)

 

Thanks for the info. I'll get back to you sometime, but the reason I asked was if you were going to set it in like the 80's you obviously couldn't put 2013 music in there.

[Severe]

 

 

Can somebody tell my why almost nobody is commenting on my concept although I put 4 weeks of effort in it?

Well, I think the thread is a little weirdly structured, in general the layout could be better.

Also, while the whole wiki-thing is a good touch, I still think the actual post/thread should take priority. Maybe use the thread to outline stuff, with links to the wiki-for details, that could be useful for stuff like side-activites, the wanted system, maybe characters and areas as well.

 

Thanks for the quick answer

 

What do you mean with "wierdly structured"? Should I include the information of the posts further in the thread in the first post?

 

Yeah, pretty much that.

 

As for the actual content, I don't have a lot comments, although I'm not quite sure I see the advantage in your wanted-system. I'll give it another read when I have time, see if there's anything else. Map is cool though, even if I generally prefer it being based on real locations.

[gtamann123]

Jesus I almost completely forgot about Vicio Imperia I guess I just have too much going on right now and can't get my thoughts straight long enough to write anything

[Pooyan Cyrus]

Jesus I almost completely forgot about Vicio Imperia I guess I just have too much going on right now and can't get my thoughts straight long enough to write anything

 

Jesus I almost completely forgot about Lounge's Weekly I guess it's because of being hardly amused with music...

[Kafonix]

 

 

 

Can somebody tell my why almost nobody is commenting on my concept although I put 4 weeks of effort in it?

Well, I think the thread is a little weirdly structured, in general the layout could be better.

Also, while the whole wiki-thing is a good touch, I still think the actual post/thread should take priority. Maybe use the thread to outline stuff, with links to the wiki-for details, that could be useful for stuff like side-activites, the wanted system, maybe characters and areas as well.

 

Thanks for the quick answer

 

What do you mean with "wierdly structured"? Should I include the information of the posts further in the thread in the first post?

 

Yeah, pretty much that.

 

As for the actual content, I don't have a lot comments, although I'm not quite sure I see the advantage in your wanted-system. I'll give it another read when I have time, see if there's anything else. Map is cool though, even if I generally prefer it being based on real locations.

 

Thank you. I rewrote most of the things and included them in the main post.

[ObsydianRaven]

1989, a year after the fall of the James Family Syndicate. Carcer City's underworld is in a state of pure chaos, and street gangs run amok. Terrance Haider, has found himself in serious trouble after his addictions to gambling, and drugs have thrown him into debt. Now Terrance must now reestablish himself in Carcer's underworld, and pay off his debts.

The year is 1990. Investigator Emmett Hughes is hired by the government to investigate possible links between the CCPD and the crime families of Wapona. His mission is made much more dangerous when he discovers that former Vinewood director, Lionel Starkweather, has begun making moves in the Carcer City underworld. Emmett must play a dangerous game and must prevent his cover from being blown.

Journey back to 1983 as Jim Harrington, a professional carjacker who steals high end cars for the wealthy of Carcer City. In this prequel, Jim finds himself playing a role in the rise of the James Family Syndicate, and the fall of of the old crime families of Carcer.

Edited September 2, 2014 by ObsydianRaven

[Kafonix]

What is this? Are these concepts for concepts?

[ObsydianRaven]

What is this? Are these concepts for concepts?

You got it right, they're DLC concepts for my Career City concept. It's conceptception.