I'm NOT expecting anything new from the NG version of V

[floydbloke]

And then there are those of us who haven't played the game at all on console, steered clear of gameplay videos and managed to avoid spoilers. So everything will be new and exciting.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

I expect that the differences would be comparable to past GTA games and their PC ports. Basically some graphical upgrades (that casual gamers and gamers that aren't that technically inclined wont even notice) and maybe some new side stuff but people really shouldn't expect a new game because its not, its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

[Aleph-Zero]

its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

 

No man, sorry. You're really blind. I sh*t you not, you should look for an oculist.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

I expect that the differences would be comparable to past GTA games and their PC ports. Basically some graphical upgrades (that casual gamers and gamers that aren't that technically inclined wont even notice) and maybe some new side stuff but people really shouldn't expect a new game because its not, its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

 

The fk you're talking about? How can you say it's the same thing? A port means you have the same game, with higher resolution and better textures... EXACTLY THE SAME, not new NPC's. not new models, not more vegetation, not new modeled car interiors... that's not a port at best is a game with new DLC. So everyone saying it's the same thing it's because they have no idea what a port stands for. Things like different story and activities might not happen, although there is a very strong possibility that they might include activities and side-missions that couldn't be included because of memory limitation and media space. Like it or not this time V isn't being ported from LG consoles it's the other way around... reason why you saw things not being released and now like magic they're back... they were never removed, the fact is that they were never there to start with.

 

In fact people should have noticed in the first screens when they saw many of the effects and motion blur with AA that were expected to never make it into the released game. Most people are still in denial but they were tricked, but this time not with bullshots, just shots and footage from other versions like UBISOFT did with WD or any other companies, the only difference is R* kept everyone in ignorance.

 

Anyway, the point here is... the game is not a port, it's not the same game with visual upgrades, we've seen a few extras and knowing that this is a proper NG game as I said since the beginning, expect a lot more from a game being created for more then 5 years.

 

And I'm not being optimistic I'm being realistic and basing my opinion in facts, I'm still waiting to see the facts behind all the Nay sayers, where are they show them to me.

Edited June 28, 2014 by S1LV3R_W0LF

[Aleph-Zero]

The bait, it has been taken.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

The bait, it has been taken.

Bait for what?

[or1]

The problem is there is no proper discussion about what is really considered a big improvement and

what is not considered a big improvement.

Anyway everyone has their own opinion on this subject, and not everyone thinks that the

improvements known to us are considered major improvements

[hasidichomeboy]

i have a tiny feeling that the GTA V PC version will be even more terrible then gta iv on pc

[I will pwn you newbs]

I only expect slightly better graphics, more NPC, more trees and animals, and a better performance specifically online. I don't expect new interiors bc R* says f*ck interiors. I also don't expect extra land on the map or an LC return but that would actually make me go next gen

[hasidichomeboy]

everybody's gonna end up buying the NG version and be disappointed because it has no features, if only people were smart...

"if only, if only"

everybody's gonna end up buying the NG version and be disappointed because it has no features, if only people were smart...

"if only, if only"

sorry, no "NEW" features

[Geralt of Rivia]

No new features? What do you consider features?

[Aleph-Zero]

No new features? What do you consider features?

 

Don't take the bait, please. People can be really stupid, no need to help them do so.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

The problem is there is no proper discussion about what is really considered a big improvement and

what is not considered a big improvement.

Anyway everyone has their own opinion on this subject, and not everyone thinks that the

improvements known to us are considered major improvements

Yes there is, the discussion here is that people think the only differences will be better looking graphics, with higher textures, higher resolution and higher number of NPC's/ Vehicles something like IV was, which is clearly not the case just for the small teaser trailer we saw.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

 

its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

 

No man, sorry. You're really blind. I sh*t you not, you should look for an oculist.

 

I showed the trailer to about 5 friends who played GTA V to death, they know absolutely jack sh*t about the technology and they said it looked exactly the same. Basically if only technically inclined people could notice the difference, it means it LOOKS THE SAME!

[Harryhenry]

 

The discussion here is that people think the only differences will be better looking graphics, with higher textures, higher resolution and higher number of NPC's/ Vehicles something like IV was, which is clearly not the case just for the small teaser trailer we saw.

 

Well, what will be in this next gen version, aside from:

 

Better textures and draw distance

More foliage

More NPCs and animals

Different lighting

 

That's what I took from the trailer. Aside from those things, will there be more than just technical improvments and added npcs? (All of which, don't get me wrong, can have an impact on you playing the game.)

Edited June 29, 2014 by Harryhenry

[Aleph-Zero]

 

 

its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

 

No man, sorry. You're really blind. I sh*t you not, you should look for an oculist.

 

I showed the trailer to about 5 friends who played GTA V to death, they know absolutely jack sh*t about the technology and they said it looked exactly the same. Basically if only technically inclined people could notice the difference, it means it LOOKS THE SAME!

 

 

Where do you live? Maybe there's a spreading disease there that causes vision problems. Really. You should report it to the authorities.

 

 

 

 

The discussion here is that people think the only differences will be better looking graphics, with higher textures, higher resolution and higher number of NPC's/ Vehicles something like IV was, which is clearly not the case just for the small teaser trailer we saw.

 

Well, what will be in this next gen version, aside from:

 

Better textures and draw distance

More foliage

More NPCs and animals

Different lighting

 

That's what I took from the trailer. Aside from those things, will there be more than just technical improvments and added npcs? (All of which, don't get me wrong, can have an impact on you playing the game.)

 

 

We don't know yet, but it certainly left us hungry for more instead of "huuurrr teaser only shows new animals and better graphics. that's it game is the same durr not worth it..." like Rockstar has shown us everything in a 1 minute teaser and two paragraphs.

Edited June 29, 2014 by Aleph-Zero

[Official General]

Logically speaking, Rockstar would have to add something significantly new to the new-gen version of GTA V if they really want it to sell it to the masses, I would think it would make sense to release it once they are ready to release the SP DLC, and further major gameplay updates and additions. It would be stupid if was just the same game alone, but with extra animals, nicer graphics and effects.

 

This is Rockstar's one final chance to redeem themselves with V, and erase the disappointment that it is right now. They be stupid not to take this chance.

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

its a port that looks slightly better (and don't give me BS and calling me blind, because even with all the upgrades you tech geeks notice by examining ever frame of that trailer. Let's be blunt and cut the BS it still LOOKS the same)

No man, sorry. You're really blind. I sh*t you not, you should look for an oculist.

 

I showed the trailer to about 5 friends who played GTA V to death, they know absolutely jack sh*t about the technology and they said it looked exactly the same. Basically if only technically inclined people could notice the difference, it means it LOOKS THE SAME!

 

Where do you live? Maybe there's a spreading disease there that causes vision problems. Really. You should report it to the authorities.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The discussion here is that people think the only differences will be better looking graphics, with higher textures, higher resolution and higher number of NPC's/ Vehicles something like IV was, which is clearly not the case just for the small teaser trailer we saw.

 

Well, what will be in this next gen version, aside from:

 

Better textures and draw distance

More foliage

More NPCs and animals

Different lighting

 

That's what I took from the trailer. Aside from those things, will there be more than just technical improvments and added npcs? (All of which, don't get me wrong, can have an impact on you playing the game.)

 

We don't know yet, but it certainly left us hungry for more instead of "huuurrr teaser only shows new animals and better graphics. that's it game is the same durr not worth it..." like Rockstar has shown us everything in a 1 minute teaser and two paragraphs.

I wish people like you would stop acting as if I'm some sort of troll with this thread. We've got no evidence of anything other than improved graphics, more life to the city and the small things that Rockstar have shown us, so I'm not jumping to any conclusions like "OMG Jetpacks, burger shot, gang wars". I may be proved wrong later on, but this is a pretty solid conclusion to make right now.

 

And anybody who keeps saying sh*t like "they showed us more grass, hammerhead sharks, cyotes you're an idiot" so forth. Wow, getting killed by Hammerheads and Cyotes as opposed to Great Whites and Mountain Lions? I guess that's going to add so many hours of new gameplay huh?

[Official General]

And anybody who keeps saying sh*t like "they showed us more grass, hammerhead sharks, coyotes you're an idiot" so forth. Wow, getting killed by Hammerheads and Cyotes as opposed to Great Whites and Mountain Lions? I guess that's going to add so many hours of new gameplay huh?

 

I said that to lol232 already earlier. He said a similar thing you quoted to me, He was trying to accuse me of deliberately putting down the new-gen version and being pessimistic about it, and he decided to counter that by displaying a list of all the new stuff that was being added in the NG version -he listed hammerhead sharks as one of the great new additions. I said to him that hammerhead sharks are great, but what's the difference between being killed by a hammershark or typical shark ? Sharks are still sharks. Extra animals are cool, but I wanna see more significant additions than just that and nice graphics/effects.

Edited June 29, 2014 by Official General

[Vercetti42]

He didn't say that they were great additions he only said that to counter your part about next-gen being a "very little" upgrade.

[Aleph-Zero]

 

I wish people like you would stop acting as if I'm some sort of troll with this thread. We've got no evidence of anything other than improved graphics, more life to the city and the small things that Rockstar have shown us, so I'm not jumping to any conclusions like "OMG Jetpacks, burger shot, gang wars". I may be proved wrong later on, but this is a pretty solid conclusion to make right now.

 

And anybody who keeps saying sh*t like "they showed us more grass, hammerhead sharks, cyotes you're an idiot" so forth. Wow, getting killed by Hammerheads and Cyotes as opposed to Great Whites and Mountain Lions? I guess that's going to add so many hours of new gameplay huh?

 

 

"I wish people like you"

 

Well, to be fair i wasn't replying to you. There's a difference between being pessimistic and putting down everything only because it wasn't shown in the teaser. It's dumb pessimism. "Oh they didn't show this or that, so obviously there will be no this or that" or "They only showed this, so we'll only get this.". Rockstar has never worked this way.

 

The trolls that are like "THERE WILL BE NO NEW ADDITIONS ON THE NEW VERSION. I'M THE OWNER OF THE TRUTH" are the ones who bother me.

[XXVIII]

It is profoundly unfortunate, because until new content / footage is disclosed, the trolling and pessimism will only become more prevalent, and with such pessimism taking precedence here excitement is just going to be curtailed.

Edited June 29, 2014 by KingGTAV

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I can only imagine how angry this place is going to be when the new version releases. Go on, continue to be overhyped idiots...

[Harryhenry]

I can only imagine how angry this place is going to be when the new version releases. Go on, continue to be overhyped idiots...

And of course, they will blame Rockstar (Or "Cockstar" according to these guys) for overhyping the game and not themselves.

[Aleph-Zero]

It is profoundly unfortunate, because until new content / footage is disclosed, the trolling and pessimism will only become more prevalent, and with such pessimism taking precedence herein,

 

Just like before the PC announcement.

[Official General]

He didn't say that they were great additions he only said that to counter your part about next-gen being a "very little" upgrade.

 

Well from what I can see so far that's available to me, the upgrades I've seen for the new-gen version of GTA V are nothing really significant, and that was what he listed to counter my point. So therefore, to me he countered nothing.

 

Nicer, detailed graphics, more peds and traffic, and extra animals are not really significant upgrades to me, it's not really gonna make much of a difference if it's still exactly the same game with no significant decent gameplay additions or SP DLC.

Edited June 29, 2014 by Official General

[or1]

Logically speaking, Rockstar would have to add something significantly new to the new-gen version of GTA V if they really want it to sell it to the masses, I would think it would make sense to release it once they are ready to release the SP DLC, and further major gameplay updates and additions. It would be stupid if was just the same game alone, but with extra animals, nicer graphics and effects.

 

This is Rockstar's one final chance to redeem themselves with V, and erase the disappointment that it is right now. They be stupid not to take this chance.

I agree with that and I wonder if Rockstar really add a great addition to the game

I personally would buy it again, because I'm happy with the current improvements

 

but if we think about it, if Rockstar will add something Significant to the game, what would it be?

[Aleph-Zero]

 

He didn't say that they were great additions he only said that to counter your part about next-gen being a "very little" upgrade.

 

Well from what I can see so far that's available to me, the upgrades I've seen for the new-gen version of GTA V are nothing really significant, and that was what he listed to counter my point. So therefore, to me he countered nothing.

 

Nicer, detailed graphics, more peds and traffic, and extra animals are not really significant upgrades to me, it's not really gonna make much of a difference if it's still exactly the same game with no significant decent gameplay additions or SP DLC.

 

 

"Well from what i can see so far"

 

We're talking about the future here. We're not judging the first trailer only. The trailer showed new stuff, therefore the optimistic are waiting for more new stuff in upcoming reveals. We're basically debating here whether we can expect more significant changes than we saw in the teaser for the NG/PC version or not.

 

Rockstar never shows everything in a teaser (in fact most companies don't) so i'm expecting more.

[Bolcksta]

I can only imagine how angry this place is going to be when the new version releases. Go on, continue to be overhyped idiots...

 

Wow, you are very ignorant, nobody here is an idiot for having expectations.

 

It's just the matter of the fact R* even stated to look for new "Details" within the game which hints that there is going to be more into the game its-self.

[Harryhenry]

I think the issue that these "pessimists" have with the "optimists" in this thread, is that the "optimists" are getting hyped with this game. And hype is... well, I'll quote

video by Super Bunnyhop:

 

"Hype is a gamble. a bad gamble. If you don't get hyped for something that ends up disappointing, then you have nothing to loose. If you don't get hyped for something that turns out great, then it's this totally awesome plesant suprise that feels completley unadulterated by marketing. It takes you offguard - you don't know what to expect, so it exceeds your expectations! Plus, getting hyped up for something sets a personal bar for your expectations that's not likely to get met by the final product. If you get hyped for something that turns out actually good, then, it's probably still not as good as what you were lead to expect. Because marketing is hyperbole. (The uploader has) had some legitimately good game ruined for me because of the hype. Because I had been set up to expect something that they weren't. And because of that, (he) usually tr(ies) to black out as much pre-release marketing material as possible."

 

"I wish I wasn't thinking like this, but, that's what this kind of marketing does to you. I want to go into (a game) blind, I wanna be completely suprised and not know what kind of a trip I'm in for, but that kind of experince is something that hype takes away. It ruins the suprises and spoils the twists. It gets you mindjacked into a self-congratulatory fanboy mentality that sees you falling for games as products, rather then as expressions. Hype isn't there for your fun. It's there for making other people money by tricking you into buying stuff you don't need and might never have actually wanted in the first place. It makes you realize that these companies aren't being honest with you, and it causes you to question whether or not you're being honest with yourself. It's an unplesant experince and a bad gamble. And that's why you shoud just wait. just, WAIT."

 

And that quote sums up why this forum was so disappointed with GTA V.