I'm NOT expecting anything new from the NG version of V

[tymaster50]

They can have my money if they make it worth it.

[TJtheS2000fan]

I don't see how "an array of new details to discover" turns into adding something super-significant. They probably mean extra grafitti or something. Besides, the other improvements they listed are more than good enough.

Edited June 27, 2014 by TJtheS2000fan

[DODI3OG]

 

IF you can show me conclusive proof that things were cut as hardware limitations and not to save disc space, then I'll concede. the files are there like there are files from San Andreas and IV.

GTA IV pc was released after the console versions right? Pardon me but I don't remember fingerless gloves, planes, or the beta LC in the PC version

 

The Current-gen trailer shows us that it will feature MANY things which were cut or to be added. Example are: Female Families Members, More WIldlife... IDIOT

[jumper2011]

People are optimistic because of the PC version. NG is just there for more money. Rockstar will never admit it, but they need modders, it keeps the game alive.

hahahahhaa lol

 

The NG Versions will sell a sh*t ton more than the PC Version. And Rockstar doesnt need Modders lol

 

[Antaxi]

 

People are optimistic because of the PC version. NG is just there for more money. Rockstar will never admit it, but they need modders, it keeps the game alive.

hahahahhaa lol

 

The NG Versions will sell a sh*t ton more than the PC Version. And Rockstar doesnt need Modders lol

 

 

now online/101 updates and dlc can keep their game alive for years

[Xerukal]

 

People are optimistic because of the PC version. NG is just there for more money. Rockstar will never admit it, but they need modders, it keeps the game alive.

hahahahhaa lol

 

The NG Versions will sell a sh*t ton more than the PC Version. And Rockstar doesnt need Modders lol

 

 

No they won't. The NG install base isn't large enough for there to be a massively significant sales advantage over PC. Compared to last-gen, anyway.

 

Rockstar doesn't need modders for the success of multi-platform sales, but they sure as sh*t need them to prolong the life-cycle of their GTA games on PC.

 

Case in point;

 

 

 

 

 

Videos like these sell the game. IV was a disgrace on PC to start with. But over the years, it has proven profitable. The exact same will happen with V. Only it won't be a sh*tty PC version this time around, so the magic can begin just a few days after launch.

 

EDIT: I was initially going to link an entire playlist. But posting any type of /watch YT link seems to automatically embed the video, without the playlist. Add this to the end to see the rest, if you even care &index=2&list=PLQ2uc-bCRaPeAmq8EQnkuX06BzJHMp7H8

Edited June 27, 2014 by Xerukal

[or1]

I don't see how "an array of new details to discover" turns into adding something super-significant.

They probably mean extra grafitti or something. Besides, the other improvements they listed are more than good enough.

I do not agree with that, because if that's what they mean, so no need to mention it, because no one is

paying attention to these things, I'm sure they mean something along the lines of-

For example - Related to NPC's:

new unique NPC'S (with new clothes & occupations)

new NPC'S animations(drinking, walking with an umbrella etc..)

new NPC'S comments(about you ,about police chases ,new curses)

 

Tell me what you think about it, is it possible?, Because I think these are things that make the game more realistic

and more alive, so it makes sense that this is what the sentence means, of course it's just speculation

 

edit: from rockstar website

"with game world enhancements that include new wildlife, upgraded weather and damage effects, and an array of new details to discover.

"an array of new details to discover" Included in a sentence with: new wildlife, upgraded weather & damage effects

Which I think says it also applies to improvements at this level (As I wrote) and not small improvements

Edited June 27, 2014 by GTA564

[Tantrix]

Im only buying this because i fan finally enjoy it on PC. I dont care about "next gen".

I absolutely hate playing on my console. 20-30 FPS, overall low graphics and a controller.

 

Ain't that the truth...my console has taken over Netflix and Hulu Plus duty in the kid's bedroom. You couldn't be more right about the controllers...they're on when driving but beyond that.../puke. I bought it on release day for PS3, but honestly I wish I had waited since the PC version will blow even the PS4 and Xbox One away starting day 1. Then shortly after release the modding community will step in, then it's ohhhhhhhh yeaahhhhhh.

[iam2fresh]

i agree with the op. people are on the hype train thinking "were going to get the trailer 1 version of the game" but when the train stops all their going to get is the same game with better graphics and more people on gta online. i thought it was for people who don't have a ps3 or xbox 360

[RisingRedWolf]

I'll be blunt here, people are setting themselves up for way too much hype with the next gen release. We've seen a few new animals in the trailer, and now everyone is expecting sh*t like gang wars, new mission strands, an entirely redone soundtrack and even f*cking jetpacks to eventuate from the next gen release.

 

But my personal opinion is we'll see nothing more than better graphics, better fps, more populated world, better performance in general, a few new animals and NPCs and whatever DLC Rockstar have given us since 17 September 2013.

 

Plus think about it, how many multi generation games recently have been released with significant ammounts of new content simply for the version on the newest console? Not too many, if any at all.

 

At the end of the day I can almost assure you that what you'll be getting Autum this year will be nothing more than a better performing version of the game we've got + a few minor details added in. And, hell, if I do end up being wrong you'll be more satisfied with something better than you expected than something worse than you expected.

Thank you!!!!! My thoughts exactly.

[TJtheS2000fan]

 

I don't see how "an array of new details to discover" turns into adding something super-significant.

They probably mean extra grafitti or something. Besides, the other improvements they listed are more than good enough.

I do not agree with that, because if that's what they mean, so no need to mention it, because no one is

paying attention to these things, I'm sure they mean something along the lines of-

For example - Related to NPC's:

new unique NPC'S (with new clothes & occupations)

new NPC'S animations(drinking, walking with an umbrella etc..)

new NPC'S comments(about you ,about police chases ,new curses)

 

Tell me what you think about it, is it possible?, Because I think these are things that make the game more realistic

and more alive, so it makes sense that this is what the sentence means, of course it's just speculation

 

edit: from rockstar website

"with game world enhancements that include new wildlife, upgraded weather and damage effects, and an array of new details to discover.

"an array of new details to discover" Included in a sentence with: new wildlife, upgraded weather & damage effects

Which I think says it also applies to improvements at this level (As I wrote) and not small improvements

 

I suppose I went a little extreme. The point I was trying to make is that the details, while perhaps significant enough, aren't huge. The things they felt they wanted to mention like the new wildlife, upgraded ai, denser traffic and more ambient detail ARE significant and justify the next gen release on their own. I'm saying the "array of new details to discover" aren't going to be nearly as significant or as important than the ones they deigned to list.

 

 

Of course, it's all speculation at this point, and I spew not fact but my interpretation of the information given.

[Fuzzknuckles]

Anyone thinking this will be much more than just a tweaked re-release is seriously delusional.

[Lock n' Stock]

 

 

IF you can show me conclusive proof that things were cut as hardware limitations and not to save disc space, then I'll concede. the files are there like there are files from San Andreas and IV.

GTA IV pc was released after the console versions right? Pardon me but I don't remember fingerless gloves, planes, or the beta LC in the PC version

 

The Current-gen trailer shows us that it will feature MANY things which were cut or to be added. Example are: Female Families Members, More WIldlife... IDIOT

 

So, was "idiot" necessary?

[iam2fresh]

 

 

 

IF you can show me conclusive proof that things were cut as hardware limitations and not to save disc space, then I'll concede. the files are there like there are files from San Andreas and IV.

GTA IV pc was released after the console versions right? Pardon me but I don't remember fingerless gloves, planes, or the beta LC in the PC version

 

The Current-gen trailer shows us that it will feature MANY things which were cut or to be added. Example are: Female Families Members, More WIldlife... IDIOT

 

So, was "idiot" necessary?

 

this is gta forums you aren't allowed to say something someone else doesn't like...... idiot jk

[xxiv435]

I'm just hoping that we see the DLC vehicles spawn in traffic in the current gen edition

[Gdog]

REMASTER: Better graphics/performance. Higher res display, better textures, higher fps, more complex weather/destruction effects. More particle effects and foliage. Higher density of NPC's and vehicles.

 

REMAKE: Everything that a remaster includes but also includes things like improvements on gameplay, things like new locations, redesigned towns/cities, new characters, reworked game mechanics/AI, running on a new engine, etc.

 

Now let's read the OFFICIAL description given to us from Rockstar and see if we can figure out which one it will be:

 

 

Grand Theft Auto V will take full advantage of the power of the PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC with across-the-board graphical and technical improvements to deliver a stunning new level of detail. Increased draw distances, finer texture details, denser traffic, and enhanced resolutions all work together to bring new life to the cities, towns, deserts and oceans of Rockstar North’s epic reimagining of Southern California.

Switch between the interconnected lives of Michael, Trevor and Franklin as they embark on a series of heists across Los Santos and Blaine County in the biggest, deepest and richest open world experience yet, with game world enhancements that include new wildlife, upgraded weather and damage effects, and an array of new details to discover.

 

Now, what do you think it is?

 

A. Remaster

 

or

 

B. Remake

 

Answer below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer: Remaster

Edited June 27, 2014 by one55

[killahmatic]

"I'm NOT expecting anything new from the NG version of V"

 

 

You shouldn't and neither should anyone else. R* has not said they would be adding anything. People should take what they get and be happy.

[Osho]

Now, what do you think it is?

A.Remaster or B. Remake

It can be a remaster of a "Completed version" of the game and you can't rule out the possibility of the remake factor too ( unless Rockstar officially confirms it )

The current version itself allows no access to certain common interiors for now, and who knows there could be other things kept for the new gen ( and PC ) exclusively.

Since, compared to previous games, the map is also played out with GTA O and that's far beyond a normal multi-player mode.

The OP simply covers the short run scenario w/o considering the long run factors, in keeping the current versions' serious lacking that will make the big difference for the future updates and whether it'll be NG/PC exclusive ( unknown and not yet announced ) only.

As such, there are certainly some key points to think about that will draw out the major differences between CG and NG/PC versions, in terms of the task to finish the game finally with the (remaster) next release, then develop and release ( new ) updates and DLC's from thereon and finally switch to the next-gen version.

If not, then it'll be interesting to see whether the Developers are seriously going to keep both CG and NG/PC at par with the only major difference being and limited to releasing "better performing version" of the same game.

[Aleph-Zero]

"I'm NOT expecting anything new from the NG version of V"

 

 

You shouldn't and neither should anyone else. R* has not said they would be adding anything. People should take what they get and be happy.

 

Again naysayers twisting the facts... I would be fine with a "tweaked re-release", but the thing is it's not. You're the delusionals here, ignoring Rockstar's statements and even the trailer itself.

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

"I'm NOT expecting anything new from the NG version of V"

 

 

You shouldn't and neither should anyone else. R* has not said they would be adding anything. People should take what they get and be happy.

 

Again naysayers twisting the facts... I would be fine with a "tweaked re-release", but the thing is it's not. You're the delusionals here, ignoring Rockstar's statements and even the trailer itself.

 

Sorry bud, but I don't think grass and cats really count as 'new features'

 

What he's saying is that he doesn't expect new missions, new land mass, new mini games, new characters, etc. We can't deny what we've been seen - which is a tweaked re-release. Not a new version of the same game.

 

 

I would, of course, love to be proved wrong, but it's really unlikely I will be.

[Khaos89]

 

 

@Khaos89

We already know that the improvements are not just graphics

Rockstar said it themselves

And you believe Rockstar after they've still failed to add features that were advertised with the game?

 

If they were planning on adding lots of new interiors you'd have thought they'd have said so instead of being so vague, it would after all be a huge improvement and probably pull in lots of new buyers.

 

Last time I check Rockstar is the developer. So, you think that graphical improvements are the only thing to be remade on the CG. Please elaborate, other then making bullsh*t claims. I believe Rockstar when they said that the game was coming to CG consoles, but maybe they're LYING. Again, that's not how works, they don't spend time making a game for the a certain platform for nearly three years, and then purposely cut it. But if you think they run like that, I wouldn't think you'd be hired to work at any game developing company.

 

When V was first announceD, they didn't give info on it straight away. Rockstar also would have mentioned moving dials, wouldn't they? Your making sh*t claims in no means of justifying them, but rather spreading sh*t and using them as "soul facts".

 

 

 

 

 

If you expect anything more than improved graphics, increased traffic density and cats you will be sorely disappointed.

You forgot about Hammerhead sharks, coyotes, increased ped population, etc. You're just pulling random sh*t out of your ass, now.

 

I really do find it hard to comprehend what you're saying, the way you string sentences together makes no sense and is frankly annoying.

 

I don't know whether English is your first language or not but you seem to go completely off tangent, so much so I really have no clue what your point is.

 

If they were planning on adding new interiors they would have showed a glimpse of them in the trailer, they didn't. What they did manage to do was show the new features they have added which are really of no significance to gameplay. Those hammerhead sharks, coyotes & increased peds sure are a HUGE addition.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Khaos89

[Khaos89]

REMASTER: Better graphics/performance. Higher res display, better textures, higher fps, more complex weather/destruction effects. More particle effects and foliage. Higher density of NPC's and vehicles.

 

REMAKE: Everything that a remaster includes but also includes things like improvements on gameplay, things like new locations, redesigned towns/cities, new characters, reworked game mechanics/AI, running on a new engine, etc.

 

Now let's read the OFFICIAL description given to us from Rockstar and see if we can figure out which one it will be:

 

 

Grand Theft Auto V will take full advantage of the power of the PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC with across-the-board graphical and technical improvements to deliver a stunning new level of detail. Increased draw distances, finer texture details, denser traffic, and enhanced resolutions all work together to bring new life to the cities, towns, deserts and oceans of Rockstar North’s epic reimagining of Southern California.

Switch between the interconnected lives of Michael, Trevor and Franklin as they embark on a series of heists across Los Santos and Blaine County in the biggest, deepest and richest open world experience yet, with game world enhancements that include new wildlife, upgraded weather and damage effects, and an array of new details to discover.

 

Now, what do you think it is?

 

A. Remaster

 

or

 

B. Remake

 

Answer below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer: Remaster

Exactly my point, they won't be adding anything of any significance to the game. If they were going to add interiors then that new addition would outshine all others, hence they would have added it to the list of new features. Their own description tells you exactly what they're including with the new versions, interiors aren't included.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

And you believe Rockstar after they've still failed to add features that were advertised with the game?

 

If you expect anything more than improved graphics, increased traffic density and cats you will be sorely disappointed.

 

If they were planning on adding lots of new interiors you'd have thought they'd have said so instead of being so vague, it would after all be a huge improvement and probably pull in lots of new buyers.

 

I will return to this thread after release and laugh at all your naiveties, especially you "S1LV3R_W0LF" & "_Kindled_".

 

This quote makes absolutely no sense. Anyway, as I say I will come to gloat after release once you morons feel robbed and let down. We'll see who the idiot is.

 

Looking forward to it mate, still waiting to be proven wrong since my first speculations started in 2011 till the end of 2013 that all became real. In fact unless your blind or you don't understand the definition of different, the small teaser trailer you already saw already proves you wrong... but I believe in the coming weeks there will be more that will reveal even more, till they actually talk about it. Oh and to make it clear I expect a lot of changes including functional burgershot, hotdog stands, CB's but I don't have high expectations for interiors (even If I don't know much of the release LG game and where you can actually enter), although the current hardware have that possibility, so if they want it there's nothing that stops them... I still remember the first trailer in the "2405" house, where there was what looked like a opened window with curtains flying... if that was the case that house had to have an interior, so who knows. But they already said there will be more animals, so the limit for this is their will, they can add as much new species as they want, the same applies to NPC's and other things (for what we could see, cars have they own dynamic 3D modeled HUD)... another example, they no longer have the excuse that they can't make GYM's work like they did in GTA SA, there are no longer the technical limitations they used, now it's up to them to do it or not.

 

You all act like you're so sure and you know everything, but once the opposite is proven you all run back to your holes and you never show your face again. I don't know if what I'm saying will actually happen, but my opinion is based in logic and facts, while yours is based in ... thin air.

 

Edited June 27, 2014 by S1LV3R_W0LF

[bish0p2004]

 

 

REMASTER: Better graphics/performance. Higher res display, better textures, higher fps, more complex weather/destruction effects. More particle effects and foliage. Higher density of NPC's and vehicles.

 

REMAKE: Everything that a remaster includes but also includes things like improvements on gameplay, things like new locations, redesigned towns/cities, new characters, reworked game mechanics/AI, running on a new engine, etc.

 

Now let's read the OFFICIAL description given to us from Rockstar and see if we can figure out which one it will be:

 

 

Grand Theft Auto V will take full advantage of the power of the PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC with across-the-board graphical and technical improvements to deliver a stunning new level of detail. Increased draw distances, finer texture details, denser traffic, and enhanced resolutions all work together to bring new life to the cities, towns, deserts and oceans of Rockstar Norths epic reimagining of Southern California.

 

Switch between the interconnected lives of Michael, Trevor and Franklin as they embark on a series of heists across Los Santos and Blaine County in the biggest, deepest and richest open world experience yet, with game world enhancements that include new wildlife, upgraded weather and damage effects, and an array of new details to discover.

Now, what do you think it is?

 

A. Remaster

 

or

 

B. Remake

 

Answer below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer: Remaster

Exactly my point, they won't be adding anything of any significance to the game. If they were going to add interiors then that new addition would outshine all others, hence they would have added it to the list of new features. Their own description tells you exactly what they're including with the new versions, interiors aren't included.Yeah, the same thing happened with V on current gen. I did some research into their past games like IV and RDR, and Rockstar pretty much tells you every feature worth mentioning in their previews.

 

What they've said for next gen is most likely what will be the end result and that's it. However, Like V on CG, I hope I'm wrong. But that hope gave me enough hype to be disappointed with the final release last time.

Edited June 27, 2014 by bish0p2004

[Aleph-Zero]

Everyone in this f*cking thread is wrong. They released a 1 minute teaser, a couple vague paragraphs and now you all thinking you're the owners of the truth because they showed this and they didn't show this or that. I vote this thread be closed and let's hope the optimistic will be laughing at the pessimistic later on when we have more information.

 

I understand the optimistic defending their opinion because they want it to happen, but i don't understand the pessimistic at all. You don't have any proof of what you say, why do you hold on to it? Is it because you don't want new features in the new version? Because there's no proof for either side though the teaser certainly falls into the optimistic pocket while not confirming any major changes yet. There's no reason at all to be pessimistic yet.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Aleph-Zero

[or1]

I have a question

If Rockstar would add one more new thing, what would you want it to be

The only thing I want is new interiors - Hospital, Life Invader Offices & tequi-la-la

[Deji]

They released a 1 minute teaser

Mhm. The clue's in the name "teaser". R* are a huge tease.

 

What other games company or franchise can get away with "announcing" a game by just showing a big 'V' logo?

 

 

Yet, when we're analysing every pixel in that V logo, noticing how the patterning looks like a dollar bill and crap like that to determine more about a game we otherwise have no clue about, are we looking too deeply into things? Should we just shut up and wait for weeks for mommy R* to tell us what to believe and think? Or as humans aren't we just able to come up with our own damn speculation and try to work out what more could be behind it all?

 

Perhaps the pessimistic people would merely think "oh, there's only a 'V' logo, so that means that when I put the GTA V disc in, only that logo is going to show up on screen". Do you really have to have someone open the box for you to show you the cat, or can't you figure from the foul resonating odour emitting from the box that the cat is probably dead? Heck, it could have vanished, but don't stand there telling people not to assume what might have happened to it until YOU have seen it with YOUR eyes. And that's the thing, it's not enough that another person even could feasibly be spot on, but it's that the pessimists won't listen to any amount of logic or reasoning without it being spelled out in big letters directly to them by R*.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Deji

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I played V today, well I'm playing it right now, and even though V looks impressive graphically, it isn't always good looking. The horrendous aliasing sometimes kills the vibe of the overall sunny/laid back atmosphere. I'm somewhat anticipating V on the PS4/Xbone. If the bad aliasing could be fixed and if the colot pallet and draw distance could be improved (even slightly) the graphics would be so perfect.

 

I'm not hoping for anything other than that though. I know they wom't bring anything relatively new to the table other than graphics...

[StJimmy]

 

 

IF you can show me conclusive proof that things were cut as hardware limitations and not to save disc space, then I'll concede. the files are there like there are files from San Andreas and IV.

GTA IV pc was released after the console versions right? Pardon me but I don't remember fingerless gloves, planes, or the beta LC in the PC version

 

 

I meant, at the time, that the cut side missions and activities, like drug dealing, were cut over bugs, and the content like skins and cars, were to save space. I wasn't claiming they'd be back, and I'm not claiming now that they wont be back. Because just like everybody else, I have no idea. All I can say is that as the game stands, from the trailer, even if it is just a graphical upgrade, I'll buy it. if we get anything else, then that's just extra.

 

sh*t, sorry, ya I got it now, I agree, most of these things were left on since they couldn't figure out how to stop them from glitching, or they just got lazy and didn't remove it. Though weirdly enough, Hammer head sharks weren't in the game files

[Jeffryyyy]

And, hell, if I do end up being wrong you'll be more satisfied with something better than you expected than something worse than you expected.

i use this theory for everything in life, i end up happy every time =]