What the hell have they done!?

[BADMAN500]

yes man I see this sh*t too I notice it does take 2 shots with the heavy sniper. and I have noticed the other guns takes so f*cking long to kill someone. and it lags or some sh*t because when im in a shootout with some one and I use a gun like the combat mg and they use like advanced i aim and shoot first before they even raise their weapon but somehow either they kill me or we kill eachother like wtf?

Yep! Couldn't say it better myself! Glad to see someone else knows about it! I had it again today! Exactly as you describe! Its not lag im sure of it! but it is Complete bullsh*t! Nicely put btw.

 

 

 

Deal with it.

 

I for one am glad the tank is weaker. Tank has no place in GTA imo. Get out and fight like a true foot soldier.

What about the weaponsbeing nerfed? Do you think its ok to be fighting for your life against a jet. Pull out your heavy sniper, actually manage to get a 1 in a 1000 shot on the pilot flying towards who wants to kill you. Only to have to do it again?

 

i am genuinely interested.

 

O no r* balanced the game so that there is counter play to what were obscenely op weapons? WTF R*

 

Tanks should be invincible along with having the best wep in the game on them. And reversing in an entity with an ap pistol should be an unstoppable trolling mechanic.

I think you just had a brain fart! And strongly disagree with your second paragraph.

 

I don't think a heavy sniper using 50 cal bullets which kills in one shot is op. I think its what it should be. Have you ever sniped a player, flying a buzzard, trying to kill you? I have. Its difficult and worth rewarding.

 

I myself also found the ap pistol great! especially for car battles. Its strong because its an AP Pistol. AP meaning armor piercing.

 

You speak of balancing in your reply? However, Rockstar created a level system which gives higher leveled players stronger, better weapons. Thus creating imbalance. By nerfing all the rifles, submachine guns, pistols etc... They actually not just go against themselves, but also create the opposite of balance as low leveled players who had access to these 'op' weapons are now at a further disadvantage to the high levels. If you want balance so much. Ask Rockstar to remove the level restrictions on everything in the game.

 

In my opinion, its been the way it was since online came out. I found the weapons were powered fine before 1.14. How people used them, like you mentioned about reversing in entitys etc, was not. However, thats not the weapons power to blame. Thats the cars design.

 

Overall, I find your response to be totally wrong! only highlighting how little you know about the game.

 

And again, about the tanks. I understand why they nerfed it. I just feel there were perhaps other options. Oh, just so you know. I use the jets, not the tank. This nerf makes the jet now totally unrivalled online (except another jet) and as such, I dont mind.

 

lol you dont mind but you made a thread raging about these nerfs.

 

 

Seriously, re-read my comment. when you understand it, reply to it. Make sure you do understand it first though. Thats important.

 

I approve of all the nerfs mentioned in the OP.

The sniper was overpowered.

The tank was overpowered.

AP pistol admittedly wasn't overpowered compared to the other weapon classes, but it was OP compared to the other handguns.

Vehicles are overpowered, too, hit someone hard enough with one and they die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

HAHAHA... muggers are overpowered too, dragging people out of tanks, stabbing them, robbing them so fast you can't see it, then driving off in their tank! How do they even know how to drive one!!

[elfoam]

Weapon nerf is real. My main weapon is the heavy sniper. It doesn't take down like it used too. I noticed today the heavy pistol is completely changed too. It fires faster and much less damage, just another pistol now.

[BADMAN500]

Weapon nerf is real. My main weapon is the heavy sniper. It doesn't take down like it used too. I noticed today the heavy pistol is completely changed too. It fires faster and much less damage, just another pistol now.

As I have said, practically all the guns have been changed! Thanks for your info elfoam. I still can't believe people have not noticed it! Rockstar need to put the weapons back to as they were prior to 1.14!

[sultangris]

Weapon nerf is real. My main weapon is the heavy sniper. It doesn't take down like it used too. I noticed today the heavy pistol is completely changed too. It fires faster and much less damage, just another pistol now.

 

you are incorrect sir, it is lag, not nerf. you might also notice it takes longer for bounties to pay after you kill them,hence LAG, surely youve still gotten one shot kills? I have, the lag comes and goes and the weapon "nerfing" you experience isnt consistent. easiest way to test how lagged the lobby youre in is to double tap down arrow very fast. if no lag the expanded map pops up, if lag it doesnt because the buttons dont register correctly. or go in a store and see how long it takes for the clerk to appear and the menu to buy snacks to pop up, more lag, longer it takes, if theres not much lag it shows up instantly. the only weapon nerfing is the AP pistol, proof is in the game files.

 

I also have a hard time combat rolling or achieving lock when in laggy lobbies, this update blows ass and i hope the next one fixes it. i first noticed this laggyness in 1.13 but 1.14 made it much much worse. virtually unplayable again. fail rockstar, fail ;(

[Cant-B-Faded]

And I thought that I am crazy. My sniper was so weak the hole day. 3-4 shots to kill someone.

The HOLE DAY?!!! Good god, man.

[Relative007]

Absolutely everything is screwed up is probably the best analogy as some have suggested.

 

Tank nerf is a joke and I would happily sell it for 60% value like normal PVs now as it is utterly pointless in free roam or for going on rampages anymore.

 

In addition to all of this, it is possible half of this is caused by the ludicrous amount of lag and sudden loss of connections to the network which have significantly increased since the last update. In fact, I am entirely confident the only reason I have not frozen since 1.14 is that I just get completely booted from the servers instead.

[BADMAN500]

 

Weapon nerf is real. My main weapon is the heavy sniper. It doesn't take down like it used too. I noticed today the heavy pistol is completely changed too. It fires faster and much less damage, just another pistol now.

 

you are incorrect sir, it is lag, not nerf. you might also notice it takes longer for bounties to pay after you kill them,hence LAG, surely youve still gotten one shot kills? I have, the lag comes and goes and the weapon "nerfing" you experience isnt consistent. easiest way to test how lagged the lobby youre in is to double tap down arrow very fast. if no lag the expanded map pops up, if lag it doesnt because the buttons dont register correctly. or go in a store and see how long it takes for the clerk to appear and the menu to buy snacks to pop up, more lag, longer it takes, if theres not much lag it shows up instantly. the only weapon nerfing is the AP pistol, proof is in the game files.

 

I also have a hard time combat rolling or achieving lock when in laggy lobbies, this update blows ass and i hope the next one fixes it. i first noticed this laggyness in 1.13 but 1.14 made it much much worse. virtually unplayable again. fail rockstar, fail ;(

 

The bounty registering some time after the actual kill is due to the bounty glitch people were doing. Or, so I believe. As for your lag theory. This happens in private games with just 2 people in. Both in the same house. With no evidence of any lag as you described.

[sultangris]

The bounty registering some time after the actual kill is due to the bounty glitch people were doing. Or, so I believe. As for your lag theory. This happens in private games with just 2 people in. Both in the same house. With no evidence of any lag as you described.

 

 

 

the amount of people and their connections has no effect on this lag, its lobby/server lag on rockstar side. getting invites to jobs, getting the job passed message after completing the final action, explosions and explosion damage, they delay from pressing the button to action completed, literally everything is lagged and slower than it used to be. really easy to notice if you play lots or played any patch before 1.12. everythings just slower, but not always consistently slow, it varies and sometimes (rarely) there isnt much lag. play more and you will notice it as well. going into store or double tap down arrow make it easy to notice. I am also expert at changing weapon super fast but i press the buttons too fast and they dont register lots of the time now which causes your weapon to not change and when attempting to combat roll you will jump instead of roll. you may not notice these things if you dont have the experience and skill at combat to do these actions quickly but if you do its easy to see the lags effect.

[Sky_Light12]

hmm.... tank with durability above 6 RPG/explosives ( 5 to rear ) should be fine to me

 

but since my adamantine armor is greatly weak , i only rely with cheval surge for kill someone without seen in radar . this also useful aganist tank

Edited June 23, 2014 by Sky_Light12

[xskinzcity]

I approve of all the nerfs mentioned in the OP.

The sniper was overpowered.

The tank was overpowered.

AP pistol admittedly wasn't overpowered compared to the other weapon classes, but it was OP compared to the other handguns.

 

how is the sniper rifle overpowered? do u not know the size and range of a bullet in a sniper rifle? could leave a massive hole through anything.

[EvilFuture]

I don't give a sh*t about any of that. So what they patched the money glitch, and nerfed this, and nerfed that....

 

All I care about is that they patched my beloved f*cking gate launch! What was that hurting?? They classified it as an exploit, yeah f*cking right.

 

"We won't patch any fun glitches"

 

LOL, Okay.

[BADMAN500]

 

The bounty registering some time after the actual kill is due to the bounty glitch people were doing. Or, so I believe. As for your lag theory. This happens in private games with just 2 people in. Both in the same house. With no evidence of any lag as you described.

 

 

 

the amount of people and their connections has no effect on this lag, its lobby/server lag on rockstar side. getting invites to jobs, getting the job passed message after completing the final action, explosions and explosion damage, they delay from pressing the button to action completed, literally everything is lagged and slower than it used to be. really easy to notice if you play lots or played any patch before 1.12. everythings just slower, but not always consistently slow, it varies and sometimes (rarely) there isnt much lag. play more and you will notice it as well. going into store or double tap down arrow make it easy to notice. I am also expert at changing weapon super fast but i press the buttons too fast and they dont register lots of the time now which causes your weapon to not change and when attempting to combat roll you will jump instead of roll. you may not notice these things if you dont have the experience and skill at combat to do these actions quickly but if you do its easy to see the lags effect.

 

I do know what you're saying. I have experienced what you have stated before in public games. Ive experienced it since online came out. However, that's not the issue. I suppose Its in conjunction to the issue. But it doesnt change the fact that the weapons have been nerfed. Honestly man, I know the difference. There maybe extra 'lag' as you describe, But Rockstar have definitely changed the weapons damage. Lag doesn't make a hit from a heavy sniper damage differently. It only affects the time it takes to register. I have shot people in the chest, head etc... many times and had it delay their death for a few seconds. its not the issue here.

[A Maned Wolf]

If tanks were more realistic, 1 or 2 rockets would be enough to disable one.

What is this, a freaking T-55/T-54?

[sultangris]

 

 

The bounty registering some time after the actual kill is due to the bounty glitch people were doing. Or, so I believe. As for your lag theory. This happens in private games with just 2 people in. Both in the same house. With no evidence of any lag as you described.

 

 

 

the amount of people and their connections has no effect on this lag, its lobby/server lag on rockstar side. getting invites to jobs, getting the job passed message after completing the final action, explosions and explosion damage, they delay from pressing the button to action completed, literally everything is lagged and slower than it used to be. really easy to notice if you play lots or played any patch before 1.12. everythings just slower, but not always consistently slow, it varies and sometimes (rarely) there isnt much lag. play more and you will notice it as well. going into store or double tap down arrow make it easy to notice. I am also expert at changing weapon super fast but i press the buttons too fast and they dont register lots of the time now which causes your weapon to not change and when attempting to combat roll you will jump instead of roll. you may not notice these things if you dont have the experience and skill at combat to do these actions quickly but if you do its easy to see the lags effect.

 

I do know what you're saying. I have experienced what you have stated before in public games. Ive experienced it since online came out. However, that's not the issue. I suppose Its in conjunction to the issue. But it doesnt change the fact that the weapons have been nerfed. Honestly man, I know the difference. There maybe extra 'lag' as you describe, But Rockstar have definitely changed the weapons damage. Lag doesn't make a hit from a heavy sniper damage differently. It only affects the time it takes to register. I have shot people in the chest, head etc... many times and had it delay their death for a few seconds. its not the issue here.

 

It moves the hitbox so you dont hit the chest, you hit an arm, which then takes 3 hits. according to game data files nothing was changed but the AP firing rate. I still get one shot sniper kills and all other weapons sometimes behave normally. not sure what to tell ya, but youre wrong, play around some more, you will see 1 shot still kills when its not lagging. how can you not notice the inconsistency? i empty clips into fools heads and they dont die sometimes, other times one bullet kills them, same gun, explain that, lol! anyway, game files dont lie, theres no nerfage.

[KeeNer187]

OP is a coward who trolls low level players with his tank. I enjoy killing people like you. That said I haven't really noticed much of a change with the weapons.

Edited June 23, 2014 by KeeNer187

[Crunch McThornbody]

It's almost like they're slowly decreasing the firepower/damage in readyness for the next generation console GTA Online noobs so they don't complain (too much) when the current seasoned players move on to the next gen version.

 

Conspiracy theory? You betcha! It's fun trying to figure out if they're competant enough to be doing these things with a goal in mind or simply trying to appease the existing complainers.

[RoyalRedXIII]

It's almost like they're slowly decreasing the firepower/damage in readyness for the next generation console GTA Online noobs so they don't complain (too much) when the current seasoned players move on to the next gen version.

 

Conspiracy theory? You betcha! It's fun trying to figure out if they're competant enough to be doing these things with a goal in mind or simply trying to appease the existing complainers.

The "existing complainers" now are the tank users lol

[RoyalRedXIII]

Tank nerf is a joke and I would happily sell it for 60% value like normal PVs now as it is utterly pointless in free roam or for going on rampages anymore.

 

Try doing one of your "rampages" on foot with a gun like a real man thats how the rest of us do it lol. Edited June 23, 2014 by RoyalRedXIII

[BADMAN500]

OP is a coward who trolls low level players with his tank. I enjoy killing people like you. That said I haven't really noticed much of a change with the weapons.

Many thanks for your reply to my question.

 

Are you on xbox? if so, I assume 'ninemillerkiller' is your gamertag. I will join your session next time im online. See who the coward is lol. Even with this nerf I doubt you will be much of a problem. I hope the 4000 kills stat in that pic below your post is for a second account. Otherwise you will merely be practice. The proof is in the pudding though. p.s. I don't use tanks so don't go passive!

[Barrago]

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

[RoyalRedXIII]

Blame all those Whiney asshats that bitched about the tank being "too OP"

So what about all the whiney asshats currently bitching about the tank nerf?

 

[sultangris]

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

it will never be changed back and the only reason it stayed broken so long is because there were tons of other game breaking bugs they had to fix first, lol! No one with any ounce of common sense can think the tank wasnt greatly over powered, the only counter was a jet or another tank. all things must have a reasonable counter. Now your tank god mode time is over, time to learn to actually play the game as you will no longer get easy kills with a tank.

[KeeNer187]

 

OP is a coward who trolls low level players with his tank. I enjoy killing people like you. That said I haven't really noticed much of a change with the weapons.

Many thanks for your reply to my question.

 

Are you on xbox? if so, I assume 'ninemillerkiller' is your gamertag. I will join your session next time im online. See who the coward is lol. Even with this nerf I doubt you will be much of a problem. I hope the 4000 kills stat in that pic below your post is for a second account. Otherwise you will merely be practice. The proof is in the pudding though. p.s. I don't use tanks so don't go passive!

Playstation unfortunately

[TeammateHelper]

Well, my pistol kinda sucks now. That, I definitely noticed.

 

Tanks, if it was nerfed, I don't notice. Same ol' getting killed while in Passive Mode, same ol' "Maybe you should stop being a pussy" remark, same ol'.

 

If it really was nerfed, I'm glad. Not that it changes anything, since it's more of a tank defense nerf rather than a tank offense nerf (eg smaller blast radius), but I take what I get.

[Ss4gogeta0]

*walk into thread, notice half the people that were complaining had anime avatars*

 

Ok...

 

damn kids...

[Barrago]

 

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

it will never be changed back and the only reason it stayed broken so long is because there were tons of other game breaking bugs they had to fix first, lol! No one with any ounce of common sense can think the tank wasnt greatly over powered, the only counter was a jet or another tank. all things must have a reasonable counter. Now your tank god mode time is over, time to learn to actually play the game as you will no longer get easy kills with a tank.

 

Did you even read my post? I don't own a tank. I don't want a tank. I do want to hear the bitching that would ensue should they change it back. If they don't, that's fine by me as well since every time they touch they game's code they break something in the process.

Edited June 23, 2014 by Barrago

[sultangris]

 

 

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

it will never be changed back and the only reason it stayed broken so long is because there were tons of other game breaking bugs they had to fix first, lol! No one with any ounce of common sense can think the tank wasnt greatly over powered, the only counter was a jet or another tank. all things must have a reasonable counter. Now your tank god mode time is over, time to learn to actually play the game as you will no longer get easy kills with a tank.

 

Did you even read my post? I don't own a tank. I don't want a tank. I do want to hear the bitching that would ensue should they change it back. If they don't, that's fine by me as well since every time they touch they game's code they break something in the process.

 

wanting it to get changed back signifies that either

 

A. you lie and have a tank and are now butthurt that its balanced so you arent god mode anymore

B. youve never seen a tank and just like to hear people complain

 

at any rate youre right about them always breaking something else, haha

[TeammateHelper]

 

 

 

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

it will never be changed back and the only reason it stayed broken so long is because there were tons of other game breaking bugs they had to fix first, lol! No one with any ounce of common sense can think the tank wasnt greatly over powered, the only counter was a jet or another tank. all things must have a reasonable counter. Now your tank god mode time is over, time to learn to actually play the game as you will no longer get easy kills with a tank.

 

Did you even read my post? I don't own a tank. I don't want a tank. I do want to hear the bitching that would ensue should they change it back. If they don't, that's fine by me as well since every time they touch they game's code they break something in the process.

 

wanting it to get changed back signifies that either

 

A. you lie and have a tank and are now butthurt that its balanced so you arent god mode anymore

B. youve never seen a tank and just like to hear people complain

 

at any rate youre right about them always breaking something else, haha

 

 

Huh. Why would anyone want to hear people complain?

[SAVILLAIN]

OP is a coward who trolls low level players with his tank. I enjoy killing people like you. That said I haven't really noticed much of a change with the weapons.

 

maybe the OP is finally learning how to use and shoot his guns for the first time since BSing with a tank all this time

[Barrago]

 

 

 

 

Honestly you see a lot more anti-tank people whining than tank people themselves. Hopefully the tankers get pissed enough to get it changed back. I want to drink those tears.

 

And no, I do not own a tank.

it will never be changed back and the only reason it stayed broken so long is because there were tons of other game breaking bugs they had to fix first, lol! No one with any ounce of common sense can think the tank wasnt greatly over powered, the only counter was a jet or another tank. all things must have a reasonable counter. Now your tank god mode time is over, time to learn to actually play the game as you will no longer get easy kills with a tank.

 

Did you even read my post? I don't own a tank. I don't want a tank. I do want to hear the bitching that would ensue should they change it back. If they don't, that's fine by me as well since every time they touch they game's code they break something in the process.

 

wanting it to get changed back signifies that either

 

A. you lie and have a tank and are now butthurt that its balanced so you arent god mode anymore

B. youve never seen a tank and just like to hear people complain

 

at any rate youre right about them always breaking something else, haha

 

 

Huh. Why would anyone want to hear people complain?

 

Why not? I've dealt with tanks before. I either go passive or take it as a cue to start up another RR run. It's not a huge deal and to be honest, it's all very amusing from the outside. Hearing people constantly whine on the forums while the tankers were content to sit in their iron cocoons was the most delicious irony. Anti-tank people called them all sorts of names while the people who enjoyed using the tanks said nothing in return, making the anti-tankers look silly. It was great, at least for me