Fastest muscle car in gta

[wolfp212]

http://gtaforums.com/topic/690178-1000m-drag-race-the-ultimate-test/

 

please look at this link before any of you guys say this car is faster than that car etc....

It is a good thread, but it only measures straight line performance. There is more than one way to gauge 'the fastest car'. For example, stats will tell you how fast a car is in the 1/4 mile, or fastest to 60, or fastest to 100, or fastest top speed, or fastest breaking, or fastest through the skid test, fastest through Nurburgring, fastest up Pikes Peak, the list goes on. There are very few straight races in this game, so acceleration and cornering also have to be taken into account when we judge a car being 'fastest' because, let's face it, coming in first in a race makes whatever car that won the fastest, stats be damned.

Edited June 22, 2014 by wolfp212

[CaliMeatWagon]

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

 

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

[elfoam]

There's a good balance in muscle class now. The blade is very very quick accelerating initially but quite slow in speed. It'll be very track dependent which has the most potential. But its close enough that personal preference and choosing the car which suits you best is more important. Over 1000 Meters my Dominator catches and passes my blade (only just) but off the line the blade is outa the hole.. Gone..

Edited June 22, 2014 by elfoam

[elfoam]

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

 

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

You truly believe fuel delivery makes a car sound different???. Only if one or the other is out of tune. I'll grant you it's near impossible to tune a carby perfectly through the entire range of the engine which tends to make them less crisp. But its the tuning which does it.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

You truly believe fuel delivery makes a car sound different???. Only if one or the other is out of tune. I'll grant you it's near impossible to tune a carby perfectly through the entire range of the engine which tends to make them less crisp. But its the tuning which does it.

 

 

I don't believe, I know it does. With a fuel injected injected engine there is a lot more items that act as a "sound baffler".

 

Lets think about this for a moment. A carbureted motor has an exposed air filter, carbretor, very short intake runners then motor.

 

On a fuel injected car you have a mostly enclosed air filter box, air filter, intake take tubing, intake runners, then to the motor.

 

The sound from a motor mostly come from the ends that air travels through. In fact, the movement of the air is what you are hearing. A prime example of this is the exhaust. If you start with a full exhaust (muffler, resonator, cat, header) and remove a piece at a time until you get to full open headers you will see that it gets progressively louder. Another good example of this is the difference between single barrel carbs, 4 barrel carbs, and independent throttles bodies. Different cams can also greatly affect the sound of a motor.

 

How do I know this? I'm a mechanic that was born with a wrench in my hand and my lullaby was a 350.

[elfoam]

I don't care what you think, I tune cars for a living.

[KingReflex]

Yes flaunt your supposed real life skills in a topic where they wernt asked for in the first place -_- Poimt blank, Gauntlet is the best all around muscle car concerning racing.

[justinlynch3]

Ruiner seems underrated, this car feels fast for a muscle to me, but handling is pretty low.

[saintsrow]

I have driven my Gauntlet a lot, and it is fast and tight, almost feels like the Banshee, frankly. I really like it.

 

I also love the sound and look of the Sabre, and although it floats like a boat, I have learned to control it well enough.

 

The Dominator of course fishtails and spins out so much, that it is a death sentence if you are trying to get away from 3 or 4 stars. I'm on the verge of selling it for a second time.

 

The Blade is a horrible disappointment. It has a steering radius like a cement truck. It sucks, unfortunately. I'm selling it tonight with extreme prejudice.

Edited June 22, 2014 by saintsrow

[justinlynch3]

The Blade has a ok turn radius, not the best but there is this little thing called breaks. You might want to try using them. Or even try X for powersliding/drifting.

 

I've owned and sold a Guanlet so many times. It's a great driving car but it's always the very first I sell to creat garage space cause it has nothing cosmetically. Why that car doesn't have a blower engline and spoilers, I have no idea. On the flip side the Phoenix is a lot more slick but I'd never sell it cause of the cosmedic appearences. lol

[CaliMeatWagon]

I don't care what you think, I tune cars for a living.

 

Okay

[I_Rock_Totally]

I really dislike the fact that the Gauntlet doesn't have any costumizations to it's body. so it looks quite boring and it sits way to high, even if you lower the car

 

When it goes to a pure drag race my Hot Knife always accelerated much faster that the Gauntlet and the Dominator, but they had a better topspeed. But still I nearly won every muscle car drag race with my Hot Knife, which sadly was taken after the 1.13 patch

Edited June 22, 2014 by I_Rock_Totally

[KingReflex]

I dont know why people sell their dominators. Just because a car tailwhips doesnt mean itd bad as long as you can control it. The phoenix however, too long, little control. The domimator is short enough that you van drift it good with practicre. The sportd car carbonizzare tailwhips and was thr best sports before the jester and had great tailwhip handling. Took practice when u first drive it but it was great

[Horndog_SA]

the dominater flat out kills the rest and ive had them all, BUT... i did a race with my dominator and a blade next to me pulled off like it was a damn jet and i turbo started, i did catch it though eventually but ive just done up my blade and wanna give it a test against the dominator in terms of my tracks and times. all other muscle suck.

[KingReflex]

the dominater flat out kills the rest and ive had them all, BUT... i did a race with my dominator and a blade next to me pulled off like it was a damn jet and i turbo started, i did catch it though eventually but ive just done up my blade and wanna give it a test against the dominator in terms of my tracks and times. all other muscle suck.

In a race with nothing but hairpin turns and 90-180° turns the domimator dominates in the right hands. You in a race with straights for more than 20s a piece the gauntlet and phoenix own the race.

[Ballistic Jello]

 

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

Just stop now, you just embarrassed yourself grratly.

[Ensyy]

Why nobody likes the ruiner? Its one of the fastest if used correctly.

 

I get my best lap times with it on tracks like dockyard and such - I think the muscle class is pretty balanced,theres no best car in my opinion.

[Mach1bud]

 

 

 

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

You truly believe fuel delivery makes a car sound different???. Only if one or the other is out of tune. I'll grant you it's near impossible to tune a carby perfectly through the entire range of the engine which tends to make them less crisp. But its the tuning which does it.

 

I don't believe, I know it does. With a fuel injected injected engine there is a lot more items that act as a "sound baffler".

 

Lets think about this for a moment. A carbureted motor has an exposed air filter, carbretor, very short intake runners then motor.

 

On a fuel injected car you have a mostly enclosed air filter box, air filter, intake take tubing, intake runners, then to the motor.

 

The sound from a motor mostly come from the ends that air travels through. In fact, the movement of the air is what you are hearing. A prime example of this is the exhaust. If you start with a full exhaust (muffler, resonator, cat, header) and remove a piece at a time until you get to full open headers you will see that it gets progressively louder. Another good example of this is the difference between single barrel carbs, 4 barrel carbs, and independent throttles bodies. Different cams can also greatly affect the sound of a motor.

 

How do I know this? I'm a mechanic that was born with a wrench in my hand and my lullaby was a 350.

Although you are correct, I am also a mechanic, and I'm saying that fuel injected cars are just as loud as carb'd cars with aftermarket exhaust systems.

 

I highy, highly, doubt R* made the engine sound quiet because of anything other than trying to make all the cars a little different.

 

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure every full size car from GM in the 60's was carbureted also.

[kjahcleveland]

Guys the dominator is the fastest.

[BrokenLizard]

Car stats are f*cked up.

How is an old low rider quicker than a 2012 Challenger?

A 1970s muscle car (Sabre, Buccaneer) should be faster than the Gauntlet/Dominator in acceleration and maybe top speed. The reason why they're not ideal to race with is because they handle like sh*t.

You got to weigh the negatives with the positives.

[Mach1bud]

I own every muscle car. This is how I'd rate them all for racing. I kinda put them all in 3 categories.

 

Good for racing-

Blade

Gauntlet

Ruiner

Dominator

 

Less good-

Sabre Turbo

Phoniex

Vigero

 

Not good-

Hotknife

Rat loader

Voodoo

Picador

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

You truly believe fuel delivery makes a car sound different???. Only if one or the other is out of tune. I'll grant you it's near impossible to tune a carby perfectly through the entire range of the engine which tends to make them less crisp. But its the tuning which does it.

 

I don't believe, I know it does. With a fuel injected injected engine there is a lot more items that act as a "sound baffler".

 

Lets think about this for a moment. A carbureted motor has an exposed air filter, carbretor, very short intake runners then motor.

 

On a fuel injected car you have a mostly enclosed air filter box, air filter, intake take tubing, intake runners, then to the motor.

 

The sound from a motor mostly come from the ends that air travels through. In fact, the movement of the air is what you are hearing. A prime example of this is the exhaust. If you start with a full exhaust (muffler, resonator, cat, header) and remove a piece at a time until you get to full open headers you will see that it gets progressively louder. Another good example of this is the difference between single barrel carbs, 4 barrel carbs, and independent throttles bodies. Different cams can also greatly affect the sound of a motor.

 

How do I know this? I'm a mechanic that was born with a wrench in my hand and my lullaby was a 350.

Although you are correct, I am also a mechanic, and I'm saying that fuel injected cars are just as loud as carb'd cars with aftermarket exhaust systems.

 

I highy, highly, doubt R* made the engine sound quiet because of anything other than trying to make all the cars a little different.

 

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure every full size car from GM in the 60's was carbureted also.

 

 

I get what your saying, but it is one of the few reasonable explanations I could find as to why the Buccanneer is so much quiter then other muscle cars. I own most of the GM muscle cars in the game and the Buccanneer is the only one that is not carbureted. And GM first introduced fuel injection for it's cars on the 1957 Corvette and Bonneville. But since this is a game, these differences don't really matter.

 

 

 

Here this should help with the original discussion:

 

Edited June 22, 2014 by CaliMeatWagon

[KingReflex]

 

 

 

 

 

The Buccaneer is up there too, but sounds like a friggin' hybrid. The turbo's louder than the engine itself.

 

That's because it's fuel injected instead of carbureted.

You truly believe fuel delivery makes a car sound different???. Only if one or the other is out of tune. I'll grant you it's near impossible to tune a carby perfectly through the entire range of the engine which tends to make them less crisp. But its the tuning which does it.

 

I don't believe, I know it does. With a fuel injected injected engine there is a lot more items that act as a "sound baffler".

 

Lets think about this for a moment. A carbureted motor has an exposed air filter, carbretor, very short intake runners then motor.

 

On a fuel injected car you have a mostly enclosed air filter box, air filter, intake take tubing, intake runners, then to the motor.

 

The sound from a motor mostly come from the ends that air travels through. In fact, the movement of the air is what you are hearing. A prime example of this is the exhaust. If you start with a full exhaust (muffler, resonator, cat, header) and remove a piece at a time until you get to full open headers you will see that it gets progressively louder. Another good example of this is the difference between single barrel carbs, 4 barrel carbs, and independent throttles bodies. Different cams can also greatly affect the sound of a motor.

 

How do I know this? I'm a mechanic that was born with a wrench in my hand and my lullaby was a 350.

Although you are correct, I am also a mechanic, and I'm saying that fuel injected cars are just as loud as carb'd cars with aftermarket exhaust systems.

I highy, highly, doubt R* made the engine sound quiet because of anything other than trying to make all the cars a little different.

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure every full size car from GM in the 60's was carbureted also.

 

I get what your saying, but it is one of the few reasonable explanations I could find as to why the Buccanneer is so much quiter then other muscle cars. I own most of the GM muscle cars in the game and the Buccanneer is the only one that is not carbureted. And GM first introduced fuel injection for it's cars on the 1957 Corvette and Bonneville. But since this is a game, these differences don't really matter.

 

 

 

Here this should help with the original discussion:

 

I wouldnt follow that data. Their are several sports cars shown as faster than coupes but that one coupe is faster.