Are there Shootouts outside of missions?

[topeira]

hey guys. i havent played GTAV yet so im asking here:

 

are there random shoot outs or random events that entice action while you free roam? or any type of action activity that involves shooting outside the main story missions?

in GTAIV i never liked how there is basically nothing to do outside the main missions that involved the main game's mechanics (driving, shooting) unless you provoke the cops.

i read that in RDR there are some sort of random events, whatever that mean (havent played RDR either).

 

so tell me - does GTAV create any excuses for some shootouts and action when you are not on a main story mission?

are there any mini-missions that involve shooting?
are there any types of random action oriented events that happen in the world?

 

thanks

[t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m]

There's a police shootout at a motel in the Grand Senora desert(can't remember the town). The police are under fire from some criminals and they'll ask you to give them assistance. I got this event playing as Trevor, so I'm not sure if it will work with the other protagonists.

[~Tiger~]

 

are there random shoot outs or random events that entice action while you free roam?

 

Yes, quite a lot. Mostly small but entertaining.

 

There are border patrols which attack and trigger shoot-outs, there are a couple of weird shoot outs that are drug induced, there are security vans to rob and a couple of gang shoot-outs.

 

There are also other robberies, there is a military base you can attack (but you won't last long) and best of all, you can ride the goods train for a mahoosive shoot out with the police and noose .

 

Tip, keep your auto-save turned off.

[InnocentA]

Sometimes when you are driving around you will see cops chasing people in vehicles, if you follow them and dont lose them eventually it will end in a shootout, sometimes the cops get killed, sometimes the crims get killed, sometimes just 1 cop will get killed, if you follow that cop eventually he will lead you to another chase/shootout until he gets killed. But if you so much as even punch a crim, the cops will abandon the shootout and come after you! WTF

[fnxrak]

There's a lot of shootouts along the game outside of missions in random events and even in cop chases like mentioned before, but there is also the fact that you can start trouble in a gang area and start a shootout by yourself outside of any type of scripted mission.

[topeira]

thanks for sharing details, guys

 

however i was looking fore shootouts that dont involve the police (since fighting with the police is a lost cause anyways. there is no resolution to such fight. they just keep coming till you die, and that isnt that much fun, IMO) and what i got from you all was:

there are shootouts but not with the player. it's AI against AIs and the police is involved and whatever you do it all deteriorates to a shootout against the cops.

and the only shootouts that do NOT involve shooting cops are scripted ones. not random ones. these scripted events happen once and once you do them all the world becomes devoid of these playerVScriminals shootouts....

 

am i right?

[fnxrak]

No you can start fights with the gangs at any time and that can be hard as hell, here I made this video to show how to get some weapons from NPCs that shows exactly that:

 

This is not scripted mission and you have a lot gangs to choose from.

Also the fight against cops isn't all a lost cause as you can shoot your way out escape them and losse the heat

Edited June 19, 2014 by fnxrak

[topeira]

great video. i watched quit a lot of it.

1) i assume that the gangs are located in very specific locations, right?
it's not like you can find gang members roaming the streets, right?


2)- i also dont guess that any NPCs attack either one of the three protagonists on their own, right? it's either the player innitiates a shootout or no shootouts accures.... (again - NPCs that are not cops)

3) when do cops appear and when not? cuz i read in a few threads that it seems like cops can show up at any given time if you open fire, as if they have psychic powers.... yet in your video it doesnt seem like the show up ever time you open fire.... so what is it? what makes cops show up or not?

Edited June 19, 2014 by topeira

[fnxrak]

There are a few areas where gangs hang out, you can easily google that, I did start a topic that has alos some info on that: Weapons Locations

Rival gangs (Ballas, Vagos or Aztecas) actually will attack if you remain close to them others will only attack if you start trouble with them hit a gang car or shoot at the gang territory.

And then there's the altruist camp if you get spoted inside it usually the altruist will attack you and try to kill you also.

The Cops will show quite randomly but usually shooting guns will trigger a wanted level, but not always ex: on the video I was able to shoot all the Ballas but no cops showed up, but when I attacked the Vagos I got the cops almost instantly.

[.Ryan.]

in GTAIV i never liked how there is basically nothing to do outside the main missions that involved the main game's mechanics (driving, shooting) unless you provoke the cops.

 

So you never tried racing, LJ's drug dealing, Brucie's exports, vigilante missions, most wanted, Stevie's vehicle thefts or assassinations?

 

I have no idea what you mean that there's "basically" nothing to do outside of GTA IV's missions that involve driving and/or shooting buddy.

[gunziness]

^ the problem with most of the activities you said is that they are limited. Apart from vigilante missions, races and stevie car thefts, once you reach 100% theres almost nothing to do, and those activities become easily repetitive after a little while.

[InnocentA]

You can have pretty decent tear ups with the koreans, sometimes you can have fist fights until you die or 1 of them pulls a blade but sometimes 1 or 2 of them will just shoot you, i like to do the construction assination glitch so the cops dont turn up then just go to town on these mugs. They usually hang around in little seol opposite the ltd petrol garage:

[topeira]

 

 

are there random shoot outs or random events that entice action while you free roam?

 

Yes, quite a lot. Mostly small but entertaining.

 

There are border patrols which attack and trigger shoot-outs, there are a couple of weird shoot outs that are drug induced, there are security vans to rob and a couple of gang shoot-outs.

 

There are also other robberies, there is a military base you can attack (but you won't last long) and best of all, you can ride the goods train for a mahoosive shoot out with the police and noose .

 

Tip, keep your auto-save turned off.

 

why do you recommend keeping auto-save OFF??

[.Ryan.]

^ the problem with most of the activities you said is that they are limited. Apart from vigilante missions, races and stevie car thefts, once you reach 100% theres almost nothing to do, and those activities become easily repetitive after a little while.

Well to be fair why would there be after 100%? All I was saying is even outside of the main missions there are still plenty of things to do that involve shooting and/or driving.

[Mokrie Dela]

^ the problem with most of the activities you said is that they are limited. Apart from vigilante missions, races and stevie car thefts, once you reach 100% theres almost nothing to do, and those activities become easily repetitive after a little while.

This is true for pretty much every game. Coding is finite, and some events repeat (such as V's NPC cop chases), but they're aesthetic at best. If you intervene you get a wanted level, so doing so reverts to "provoking the cops".

 

from my playthroughs, I think V and IV are about level in terms of things to do outside of missions. V feels like it has less, because of the size of the map, and the amount of things that fill (or fail to) it. IV felt cramped at times, but it packed a decent amount in. V expanded the map, but i personally feel it didn't expand on these side activities. Most wanted and Vigilante are gone completely, replaced by another limited Bounty hunter system. Assassinations are less than in IV. Car collecting is gone (I'd love to see something akin to Epsilon's hunt for vehicles - i spent ages finding the location of that damned bike (NOT the one in the parking lot of the hotel or Lifeinvader - but the one in the picture (1 block due north of the Richman hotel), but i had a lot of fun scouting the city for them. I'd like to be able to hunt them via the internet (LSPD database) then scout them and take them in a more professional manner, but i digress.

 

I find i get into shootouts for the most stupid reasons - just hanging around a single area, taking in the sights results in a wanted level for no reason most of the time. I've checked up the call-code and it cites a "disturbance". Taking photos of the Walk of Fame has resulted in a wanted level before.

 

I've seen a few random events - the drug bust in Blaine County (west of the Pay n Spray F can buy at the motel on the corner, results in a breifcase of money being dropped, and a wanted level for taking it (unless youre quick)); the same, repetitive police chase, culminating in a shootout... and that's about it that i can remember. I have never seen any crimes take place (ignoring the muggings you can help in), no robberies by NPC (which is strange seeing as how the game is focused on that, but i guess it'd be stranger to see them a lot). No car jackings, i think i once saw 2 gangs shoot out with eachother, I've seen GSF shootout with the cops, but that's about it. Probably a bit more than in IV, to be fair, but none of them are triggered by a non-wanted level player-triggered event.

 

But then there's online, which seems to be the answer to all these questions. Want to steal cars? Go online. Shootouts? Go online.

[EOL_92]

Sadly the majority of non-player induced shootouts/robberies/chases etc. only happen once in very specific areas (e.g. if you fail it and die then return to the exact spot it will be back until it has been completed). The only execption are the randomised cop chases that sometimes occur but these are just for show as any shots fired at either the police or criminals results in a wanted level (2 or 3 stars) instead of the side you join with siding with you (which was done alot better in Red dead).

All this means that once you've completed the game there will be very little to do that provokes you to even fire a shot (without you doing something first). I would advise playing Red Dead as that better macthes your description of what your looking for tbh