NinjaCat Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 If someone really want to influence the design of the next GTA game, organizing an actual letter writing campaign to Rockstar Games would be much more effective than an internet discussion board poll. Tangible letters have about 1000% more influence than anything on the internet because people are forced to deal with them. No one at Rockstar is forced to deal with any particular thread or website dealing with its game. If you send them a physical letter, or hell, even an actual email, they would be forced to reckon with what you had to say... or at least be annoyed by you. With that said, I propose the following version of Swim Laws for GTA5: -------------------------------------------------------- Many characters in the game can swim. Some characters can swim better than others. In fact, some computer characters are swimming on purpose sometimes. You can only swim limited distances due to a slow drain on your actual HEALTH (Swim Damage). Swim Damage does not affect ARMOR. Some characters do not experience swim damage. Crashing into the water while inside a car does not kill you but rather initiates Swim Damage. Sealife can and does interact with swimming characters. Completing some game objective would allow for unlimited swimming, much like the Unlimited Run bonus for finishing the Ambulance missions in Vice. Jumping into the water would extinguish a character that is on fire, but also initiate swim damage. ----------------------------------------------------------- That's my first draft everyone. Please respond with any other ideas you may have but please make them intelligent. Please remember that I began this thread only to gain information to satisfy my own curiosity. Ninjacat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 aleast some people have then head on strait... i like ur idea very simalar to mine , but the swim damage. heres how i see it incase u didnt no.. the more u run in the game the longer he will be able to run. basicly ur keeping him in shape. so swiming and runing both require stamina so the same meter that ur run stamina is should be the same exact meter ur swim is. so the more u run or the more u swim the stronger the character gets , thus making him be albe to run and swim longer. after ur stamina runs out ur heath starts to fall rapidly (like it does now) and when it runs out u should have the same excat reaction u do now, reach up and drown. it shouldnt effect ur health untilly u run out of stamina. some people say "what about swiming to the locked island(s)?" well u cant swim that far, they just have to design it so at full stamina u cant swim to the other side.some people might go well then that makes it easy.. not really .. if u took a poll and asked "what do u spend more time doin" Runing , Driving , Riding, or Flying... runing would probibly come last lets face it we would rather take a saber turbo to the mission then run. so with that said if some 1 was in a mission and said "o ill just swim around this" or "ha, ill swim away from the boat" they will soon realize that there guy is out of shape and they drown. puting swiming in GTA could suck.. but it could be the next best thing since rocket lanchers. it depends on how rockstar does it? my origianl thread to have every 1 say Gangsters can swim .. was more of a "hey im board lets see if people will actully be cool and sign it". at first it worked but, of course, there are stupid people and even though i asked them not to chat in it they did and messed it up. u have valid have point about a letter to rockstar but like i said it wasnt "o i no if i do this rockstar will have to do it" it was just "im board". people didnt realize that aparently. id really like to be able to interact with sea life... get eatin by a shark or better yet shoot at the sharks or have a mini game with the refer and do some fishing for some extra cash. thoughs are all petty ideas but still it would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaCat Posted December 28, 2002 Author Share Posted December 28, 2002 Wow! An intelligent reply. Thank you. I like your idea of being able to run and swim more to gain stamina. Thus, walking or just paddling would be the <left analog> movement and that combined with the <X> button would be running/swimming. GREAT <Censored> IDEA! (For those who didn't know... tapping the <X> button would mean running/swimming indefinetly) Ninjacat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns don't kill people, I do Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 infinite swim would be cool, but it would have to be a 100% reward, because by then you'd have all of the islands unlocked and people wouldn't just swim to other islands that haven't been unlocked yet and "cheat" the system. that would ruin the game, sort of. good idea though, but i doubt it will become a reality in GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ca$$idy Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 You could make a feature where the main character can only swim so far but what I was gunna say is that many e-mails had been sent 2 R* asking for certain features (including the ability to swim) 2 be included in vice city. None of them did or got a reply. If they feel that this would be a good feature in the next GTA it will be there, if they dont it wont, we cant change a dam thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dildo Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 I don't know if I like the swim damage, i'd rather just have there be a limit. Not like an invisible barrier but maybe something realistic like most beaches have where there is a certain point swimmers aren't supposed to be past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuff_luv_capo Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 I don't want to swim. This isn't Grand Theft Aqua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighrocks Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 thats quite kool idea so whos gunna send it to um not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ca$$idy Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 I don't want to swim. This isn't Grand Theft Aqua lol, like that 1 look, u can waste ur time sending ur lidle dream but the fact is its not realy gunna effect there choise in whether 2 include it in the next gta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuff_luv_capo Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 I don't want to swim. This isn't Grand Theft Aqua lol, like that 1 Thanks. I thought of it myself.....wtf, I'm sooo bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 Nice idea, but I think that you should only lose health as you swim UNDER water. And when you come up, you would gain ur health back....but if ur under the water too long, you...um...oh yea, u die. And I think that, in addition to running and swimming to gain stamina, there should be a gym to lift weights and such, and as the game progresses and you excercise and lift more, you get noticably bigger. (muscles, etc., don't get any perverted ideas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted December 29, 2002 Share Posted December 29, 2002 100% agree with Phantom88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 the also needs to be a mission like "sleepin with the fishes" where u hunt a guy down and take him out on a bout give him some cement nikes and see how well he swims... . if they add swiming(which i hope they just atleast do so u can fall in and get back out) they need to make the water more usefull.. like Sea Doo's and jet ski's. if u have thoughs u have to be able to swim.. think about how many times u fall off a pcj or how easy it is to get hit and fall off? if u couldnt swim they would be no fun casue ud get about 10 feet hit a narly wave do and land upside down. skarks should be able to eat u, and u should beable to get scuba gear for a mission like... "U IDIOT.. u were suppost to kill him not sink the boat, do u realize how much smoke is at the bottom of the ocean now..? well.. its time to clean up ur mess. stop over buy the mall and get some scuba gear and get ur ASS SWIMING OR U"LL BE SLEPPING WITH THE FISHES TOO..!" so u drive to the mall, stop at the scuba gear store, drive over to the docks ... get a boat drive out to the wreck and dive down. while ur under there u will have to fight off sea life every once in a while and collect all the drugs from the sunkn boat .. and for a cool touch when u go back to the ship wreck the body is still there..hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressor27 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I like all of the ideas you presented, although I don't really understand the Swim Damage. Why would that be relevant, unless you were near sharks. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyLeone25 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I don't want to swim. This isn't Grand Theft Aqua I totally agree TLC Anomalous Material.com <--> AMF Multiplayer Topic Join Quidco and get Cashback for buying things online! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgon Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 the more u run in the game the longer he will be able to run. basicly ur keeping him in shape. it was like that in GTA3 but in vice after you do your ambulance its infinite run so that rule doesnt apply. it might apply before you do em but im not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilzo9 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 aleast some people have then head on strait...i like ur idea very simalar to mine , but the swim damage. heres how i see it incase u didnt no.. the more u run in the game the longer he will be able to run. basicly ur keeping him in shape. so swiming and runing both require stamina so the same meter that ur run stamina is should be the same exact meter ur swim is. so the more u run or the more u swim the stronger the character gets , thus making him be albe to run and swim longer. after ur stamina runs out ur heath starts to fall rapidly (like it does now) and when it runs out u should have the same excat reaction u do now, reach up and drown. it shouldnt effect ur health untilly u run out of stamina. some people say "what about swiming to the locked island(s)?" well u cant swim that far, they just have to design it so at full stamina u cant swim to the other side.some people might go well then that makes it easy.. not really .. if u took a poll and asked "what do u spend more time doin" Runing , Driving , Riding, or Flying... runing would probibly come last lets face it we would rather take a saber turbo to the mission then run. so with that said if some 1 was in a mission and said "o ill just swim around this" or "ha, ill swim away from the boat" they will soon realize that there guy is out of shape and they drown. puting swiming in GTA could suck.. but it could be the next best thing since rocket lanchers. it depends on how rockstar does it? my origianl thread to have every 1 say Gangsters can swim .. was more of a "hey im board lets see if people will actully be cool and sign it". at first it worked but, of course, there are stupid people and even though i asked them not to chat in it they did and messed it up. u have valid have point about a letter to rockstar but like i said it wasnt "o i no if i do this rockstar will have to do it" it was just "im board". people didnt realize that aparently. id really like to be able to interact with sea life... get eatin by a shark or better yet shoot at the sharks or have a mini game with the refer and do some fishing for some extra cash. thoughs are all petty ideas but still it would be cool ok, i really couldn't be bothered to read this, but from the gist of this, i guess its pro swimmin? well, i fink swimmin wud be pointless. U remember those time in GTA3 where the roadz wud be deserted... well, it wud be like that ALL the time if u swam !!! (DONT flame, lol - of course though, tell me if you think this is stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgon Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 i dunno i think you should read if your gonna post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Offspring Guy Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I don't think he should loose life. But what about shark attacks. So you isn't safe in the water =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdogboy45 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 their should be an air gauge for diving under water, and when the gauge reaches zero then you lose life so you have yo come up for air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 there should be a blue Air gage that pops below ur health. when it reachs 0 ur health starts to go down at the same speed it dose now and when that reachs 0 ..u die. swiming would be like runing, u can only go "so" far untill u build his stamia up. when u run out of steam he will start to sink and ur air gage will come up, if u can time it right u might be able to go "alittle" farther by resting underwater(holding breath) and swiming again, but it wouldnt get u across the island. swiming up to things, if u swim up to somthing like a boat and press jump he should sping up out of the water and craw in, same for get out on the shore. There thats a short as i can get it for u ppl that dont like long posts. and all u ppl that dont wanna swim its as simple as... DONT SWIM THEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_1000 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 personally, i think that the water on both gta III and vice city have pretty much been a waste of space. Most of it is unused and all you do is drive boats on it and a few missions, maybe if there was less water, and more land, then swimming would be a better idea. There is currently way too much water for the % of missions that are based on it.. *IF* the next gta is something based like san andreas, that would be better...less water, more land... using water as an excuse to act as a wall or barrier is kinda boring and kinda unimaginative...they could still have a city...u could go past one point and get shot down or something..i dunno.. just not water... but yer..swimming would be good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 u bring up a valid point that ive talked about before... i dont like that fact the citys are islands. i think that there should only be 1 side that has water and the other should maze inland to streets that wouldnt go ne more but if they design it right it wont feel like the city is resticted. there also needs to be more elavation changes, falt citys are boring. there also needs to be hella buildings in a area soo much that u cant see the water or down ne stree for more then a 1/8 mile(like staunton island in GTA3). also needs to be a bigger dealership area with more than 1 dealer. if GTA4 is in san andreas (san fran.) then water should be an importion part of the game and i hope they add hill'y streets like San Fran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_1000 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 yer..i missed the elevation changes too..missed tunnels too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
«*VooÐoö LowRidaz*» Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 theres no harm in dreaming, but don't expect all this to come true we will just need to wait and see. don't get ur hopes too high and thats why some people were dissapointed with vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargr67 Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 im not disapointed with vice, i like vice as much as i like GTA3. u never know who is reading these forums.. head of rockstar.. briney spears.. Mr Bush.. Jim bob joe. u just never know hell i could be tom brokaw. "u keep sucking on ur own dick ur bound to break neck, i think that i detect a sick sign of self respect.":Reveille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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