Iron Wrap.

[Paladin Goo]

What if V has this?

 

Discuss.

 

EDIT:

Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

Edited June 13, 2014 by McLightning

[ddyoung]

What?

[Twilight Sky]

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Twilight Sky

[Paladin Goo]

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

 

No. Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

 

Edit: OP updated.

Edited June 13, 2014 by McLightning

[r34ld34l]

 

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

 

No. Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

 

Edit: OP updated.

 

I really doubt that, because Max Payne is shooter, while GTA V is open world with a lot of things to do and even more (infinite) with mods.

[Paladin Goo]

 

 

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

 

No. Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

 

Edit: OP updated.

 

I really doubt that, because Max Payne is shooter, while GTA V is open world with a lot of things to do and even more (infinite) with mods.

 

Genre wouldn't make a difference. They have never officially supported modding at Rockstar, and their last couple games have been locked down from them all together.

[ddyoung]

GTA IV had lots of modding, everything from map additions to the simple native trainer. So I think that V will have the ability to mod, but at least we won't need a car mod

[Paladin Goo]

GTA IV had lots of modding, everything from map additions to the simple native trainer. So I think that V will have the ability to mod, but at least we won't need a car mod

GTAIV was also 6 years ago...and the 2 games on PC from rockstar since then have not allowed modding; plus there's the fact that they've never officially supported it, AND that GTA Online has leaderboards.

 

Just trying to prepare you guys so you aren't too disappointed...cause there's a relatively large chance this will happen.

[Alvarez]

So, a big FOCK YOU to contributing PC players from Rockstar, with love?

 

I don't think so, Tim.

[Paladin Goo]

So, a big FOCK YOU to contributing PC players from Rockstar, with love?

 

I don't think so, Tim.

Hard to really call it a "FOCK YOU"....they've never actually supported modding..so...yeah.

 

They did it to Max Payne 3 cause they wanted the multiplayer to stand out and be uniform...and the multiplayer portion is their crown jewel of GTAV. I'd be willing to be they'll add Iron Wrapper or some alternative.

Edited June 13, 2014 by McLightning

[Spider-Vice]

I admit that although I'd want modding capabilities in V, I wouldn't be surprised if they implemented something advanced like that exactly because of GTA Online, unless they craft a very smart anti-cheat system.

[Xerukal]

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/17321/found-on-the-net-incredible-grand-theft-auto-iv-pc-screenshots.html

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/18541/zombie-invasion-mod-for-gtaiv-pc.html

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/37241/original-gta-map-imported-into-gtaiv-found-on-youtube.html

 

For a company that doesn't support modding, they sure as sh*t seem to like to feature community-created mods that they are, as you say, clearly against. Odd, ain't it?

 

I'm sure putting this block on GTA V would cause quite a bit of controversy. But then again, Rockstar is made out of controversy, so I guess they wouldn't really care.

 

They might put something like it on GTA:O, but there is no reason to do this to the singleplayer.

 

EDIT: Also, the two games since IV really didn't have a lot to mod. LA Noire was relatively story-focused, not much to play around with there. Max Payne 3 was also very linear and straightforward. Might sound like a cop-out explanation, but people didn't exactly try hard to crack open LA Noire and MP3 to see what's in there. Or at least, not from what I've seen.

 

I'm sure some way, some how, people will find a way to get around the restrictions. I am uninformed as to how the "Iron Wrap" works, however. So I can't say.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Xerukal

[Spider-Vice]

OpenIV natively supports Max Payne 3, including viewing models and textures and audio files. I don't know however if you can change anything yet.

[Stevilknievel]

I expect GTA V to have modding support, R* actively features and encourages is in their newswire posts, see above ^

 

Obviously they'll try and set it up in a way that you can't do it online.

[Paladin Goo]

When did I say they were against anything? Don't put words in my mouth, buddy. I said they don't SUPPORT it. There's a difference. Saunter on over to your nearest dictionary to clarify that for yourself.

 

Sorry to seem angry - but I really don't like people putting words in my mouth.

 

GTAIV wasn't heavily multiplayer focused. GTA V however, is. As was Max Payne 3; and contrary to what you said, MP3 would have had ALL the potential in the world for mods. As for how iron wrap works, it's essentially read-only encryption.

Edited June 13, 2014 by McLightning

[r34ld34l]

 

I'm sure some way, some how, people will find a way to get around the restrictions. I am uninformed as to how the "Iron Wrap" works, however. So I can't say.

http://www.gameshield.com/Product/Ironwrap

[Xerukal]

When did I say they were against anything? Don't put words in my mouth, buddy. I said they don't SUPPORT it. There's a difference. Saunter on over to your nearest dictionary to clarify that for yourself.

 

Sorry to seem angry - but I really don't like people putting words in my mouth.

 

GTAIV wasn't heavily multiplayer focused. GTA V however, is. As was Max Payne 3; and contrary to what you said, MP3 would have had ALL the potential in the world for mods. As for how iron wrap works, it's essentially read-only encryption.

Grand Theft Auto Online is meant to exist as a separate entity, though. GTA V will have nothing to do with it when VI comes around (and so on).

 

They can't just be thinking about V and Online's current obvious connection. They need to work on securing Online standalone. That means not spilling that security into places where it doesn't belong. Like Story Mode. Since it doesn't really serve a purpose there.

 

I'd imagine they could just implement a file-checker of sorts, similar to the one that IV had (although I heard that one was hated and was eventually removed). The one that boots you if you have mods installed, if I remember correctly?

 

Also, call my imagination limited and my creativity dull, but what potential in this world does a linear shooter like Max Payne 3 hold? In Multiplayer, sure. But even then, it all seems very confined and limited to me.

 

It's a good third person shooter Multiplayer mode with bullet time. I never saw the staying power in it, so that's probably just my own problem.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Xerukal

[D T]

Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Deadly Target

[Vicetopia]

That seems like a good way to piss off every PC gamer ever.

[Xerukal]

 

Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

 

 

I take back everything I said about there being no potential for modding.

 

This is beautiful.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Xerukal

[_Kindled_]

 

GTA IV had lots of modding, everything from map additions to the simple native trainer. So I think that V will have the ability to mod, but at least we won't need a car mod

GTAIV was also 6 years ago...and the 2 games on PC from rockstar since then have not allowed modding; plus there's the fact that they've never officially supported it, AND that GTA Online has leaderboards.

 

Just trying to prepare you guys so you aren't too disappointed...cause there's a relatively large chance this will happen.

 

You know, consoles aren't even supposed to be modded. But there are still mods on both online and in single player.

 

Your argument is invalid.

[weidncol]

^^

 

 

Mods

So far I've made a few simple mods, all of these will work on both modded PS3 and 360:
Better Handling - [updated 3/4] This changes the handling for all cars to be more realistic.
Carmageddon V - [updated 5/15] Just like Carmageddon for IV, makes cars shoot around uncontrollably.
Empty Streets - [updated 12/1] Removes all peds and cars.
Fire Extinguisher - Makes the fire extinguisher usable.
First Person Vehicles - [updated 4/8] CrazyPotato's mod utilizing vehicle.patch instead of vehicles.meta. Works with DLC vehicles too.
Less Restricted Areas - [updated 3/10] Removes/alters the restricted zones, like allowing you to freely drive around Fort Zancudo, or the golf course.
More Random Events - Increases the odds of a police chase or ped committing a crime happening.
No Damage Indicator - Removes the red tint and red mark when you get shot.
No Hitmarker and Kill Flash - [updated 6/13] Removes the red X hit mark, and flash when you kill someone.
No Plane Turbulence - [updated 3/3] This eliminates turbulence and wind while flying planes, but not for helicopters.
No Tracers - Removes tracer rounds from guns.
Old Controls for Driving/Flying - This changes accelerate/decelerate from R2/L2 to X/⃞ (or A/X if you're using an Xbox 360).
Rare Vehicle Spawns - [udated 5/23] This makes GTA:O, DLC and collector edition cars, as well as some other hard to find or unobtainable vehicles, spawn in certain places.
Revised Wanted System - [updated 1/4] Changes ESPD to LSPD by altering how long wanted levels last, the requirements to get wanted and the law's pinpoint accuracy.
Riot - Just like Riot Mode cheat on old Rendware GTA's, this gives peds guns and makes them go nuts.
Snow - Adds a random day of snow to Los Santos. Note: No snow textures.
Stand on Vehicles - Allows you to stand on any vehicle.
Super Bunnyhop - [updated 12/19] Makes you jump ~2 stories on bicycles.
Zombies - Incomplete mod that adds some aggressive zombies.

For more info on these view this post.

 

Exactly.

Edited June 14, 2014 by weidncol

[Paladin Goo]

 

 

GTA IV had lots of modding, everything from map additions to the simple native trainer. So I think that V will have the ability to mod, but at least we won't need a car mod

GTAIV was also 6 years ago...and the 2 games on PC from rockstar since then have not allowed modding; plus there's the fact that they've never officially supported it, AND that GTA Online has leaderboards.

 

Just trying to prepare you guys so you aren't too disappointed...cause there's a relatively large chance this will happen.

 

You know, consoles aren't even supposed to be modded. But there are still mods on both online and in single player.

 

Your argument is invalid.

 

Not even remotely. It's no feasible to encrypt a console version. My argument is as valid as yours.

[Twilight Sky]

 

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

 

No. Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

 

Edit: OP updated.

 

ewwwww... reminds me of that thing called GameGuard. Man I hope they don't do that to GTAV.

[Paladin Goo]

 

 

I guess he means the PC version will come in an iron casing.

 

No. Max Payne 3, their most recent PC game, had Iron Wrapper by Gameshield. It was basically a file encryption that made it impossible to mod.

 

Who is to say GTAV won't have the same thing?

 

Edit: OP updated.

 

ewwwww... reminds me of that thing called GameGuard. Man I hope they don't do that to GTAV.

 

There's no doubt that it would suck..I hope they don't, but I'm also not going to set myself up for disappointment by expecting otherwise.

[Rockstar Games™]

It can still be bypassed, but it's much harder for modders though. I am sure they will, they have hated modding ever since "The Hot Coffie Mod"

[Paladin Goo]

It can still be bypassed, but it's much harder for modders though. I am sure they will, they have hated modding ever since "The Hot Coffie Mod"

They haven't exactly hated it...they even post articles endorsing them on their newswire:P

[weidncol]

This will be moddable, even if they "restrict" it. There's always a way around things.