A non-contact passive mode?

[MayoChiki]

Sorry if this isn't in the Wishlist topic, but I want some opinions...

 

Since GTAO was launched I never go passive mode, and -like a lot of people- it is because I think the passive mode is a joke... a $500 fee to some asshole for ramming you? Sure, they'll learn something.

 

I don't know if somebody proposed this before but what about a non-contact passive mode? Because I'm sick of going to Ammu-Nation with a giant letter that says "Hey guys, kill me while I buy ammo". That's not the real problem, if I'm on foot and passive mode I have another giant letter that says "Hey, run the sh*t out of me, you will get a gift". Rockstar already created the non-contact races, so I don't see that so impossible.

 

Glitchers of course, but that would make the game more fair than getting a bunch of idiots behind me while I drive no wanting problems just because they're too afraid to fight in fair conditions.

 

What do you guys think? A non-contact passive mode would be a good/bad idea? Why?

[Rocket Skates]

Yeah I think this has been suggested many times before and it's a good idea.

[AlexSniperBullet]

That would be awesome. i could fuse with people too!

[AwesomeJokeGTA]

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Edited June 12, 2014 by AwesomeJokeGTA

[jdwarfer]

Sorry if this isn't in the Wishlist topic, but I want some opinions...

 

Since GTAO was launched I never go passive mode, and -like a lot of people- it is because I think the passive mode is a joke... a $500 fee to some asshole for ramming you? Sure, they'll learn something.

 

I don't know if somebody proposed this before but what about a non-contact passive mode? Because I'm sick of going to Ammu-Nation with a giant letter that says "Hey guys, kill me while I buy ammo". That's not the real problem, if I'm on foot and passive mode I have another giant letter that says "Hey, run the sh*t out of me, you will get a gift". Rockstar already created the non-contact races, so I don't see that so impossible.

 

Glitchers of course, but that would make the game more fair than getting a bunch of idiots behind me while I drive no wanting problems just because they're too afraid to fight in fair conditions.

 

What do you guys think? A non-contact passive mode would be a good/bad idea? Why?

 

 

Good idea and possible, since it's available on the racing activities.

Our character can't touch other players (on foot or in a vehicle), but can touch everything else. Perfect passive mode.

[YirbyBond00Y]

Yes, but perhaps with the addition of a timer as well....up to a maximum of 15 minutes in non contact passive mode. The only downside to this is that the more minutes you are in passive mode, the longer it takes to get out of passive mode, or perhaps no option to get out of passive mode at all once you're in it.

[jdwarfer]

Yes, but perhaps with the addition of a timer as well....up to a maximum of 15 minutes in non contact passive mode. The only downside to this is that the more minutes you are in passive mode, the longer it takes to get out of passive mode, or perhaps no option to get out of passive mode at all once you're in it.

 

 

A timer to get out, and a timer to get in too. Something like 20 to 30 seconds each.

[D3ViOU5]

The biggest change that would bring for me is that it would be slightly easier to get away from tanks, the other is that I would have no way to stop the guy who's tank I just blew up from getting a new one.

 

Be aware of your surroundings before you enter a store, double tap down on the d-pad and you can expand your map.

 

If you don't want to play with people and just do shopping/car mods/drive around undisturbed, well, there is a nice thing called invite only and solo sessions. Some people seem to think they're entitled to be in public sessions with other players and be left alone, but when you play with other players, you're kinda wearing a big sign that says "here I am, come play with me".

 

And nobody gets a gift from killing people in passive mode, unless you count hospital bills as a gift.

[Rocket Skates]

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

[AwesomeJokeGTA]

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

[jdwarfer]

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

 

 

 

With a timer to get in passive mode, you'd have time to get f*cked a couple of times.

[Rocket Skates]

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

 

I guess it would take a bit of thinking to change it around but someone suggested that once you're in it you can't back out or it has a timer etc.

[AwesomeJokeGTA]

 

 

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

 

I guess it would take a bit of thinking to change it around but someone suggested that once you're in it you can't back out or it has a timer etc.Passive mode is fine the way it is. It's balanced to stop conflict and offer a way to get revenge on a possible griefer

[AlexSniperBullet]

Can you imagine me walking through your body ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Rocket Skates]

 

 

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

 

I guess it would take a bit of thinking to change it around but someone suggested that once you're in it you can't back out or it has a timer etc.Passive mode is fine the way it is. It's balanced to stop conflict and offer a way to get revenge on a possible griefer

 

Fair enough however I don't understand why you can kill people with the fire truck water cannon whilst they're passive.

[AwesomeJokeGTA]

 

 

 

 

 

 

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

Changes could be made to accommodate a new passive mode such as entering a vehicle while it's activated makes your car a ghost too as in you can't run anyone over and get away with it. Vehicles like tanks, jets & buzzards would be locked with a message stating that this vehicle is inaccessible whilst passive mode is activated (like trying to bounty or mug someone when you're in it).

It doesn't matter. Once I'm done tank griefing I can just throw on passive mode without fear of retaliation from the people I grief

I can also just

throw on passive mode

get in a car

drive to my tank again

Take off passive mode

Repeat cycle

 

I guess it would take a bit of thinking to change it around but someone suggested that once you're in it you can't back out or it has a timer etc.Passive mode is fine the way it is. It's balanced to stop conflict and offer a way to get revenge on a possible griefer

 

Fair enough however I don't understand why you can kill people with the fire truck water cannon whilst they're passive.You also need a way to kill the griefers when they're standing on top of a trash can doing the jerk-off animation

[RoyalRedXIII]

Sorry if this isn't in the Wishlist topic, but I want some opinions...

 

Since GTAO was launched I never go passive mode, and -like a lot of people- it is because I think the passive mode is a joke... a $500 fee to some asshole for ramming you? Sure, they'll learn something.

 

I don't know if somebody proposed this before but what about a non-contact passive mode? Because I'm sick of going to Ammu-Nation with a giant letter that says "Hey guys, kill me while I buy ammo". That's not the real problem, if I'm on foot and passive mode I have another giant letter that says "Hey, run the sh*t out of me, you will get a gift". Rockstar already created the non-contact races, so I don't see that so impossible.

 

Glitchers of course, but that would make the game more fair than getting a bunch of idiots behind me while I drive no wanting problems just because they're too afraid to fight in fair conditions.

 

What do you guys think? A non-contact passive mode would be a good/bad idea? Why?

No, that's not really a great idea. A non contact passive mode defeats the very idea of a free roam open session: player interaction.

 

Most of the problems people say they experience with passive mode, I don't have. So If you need some tips or advice on how to use it to your advantage, I'd be more than happy to help.

[cuti8tushu]

Lol naaaaa waste of space in the session.

[yakuza65]

 

Sorry if this isn't in the Wishlist topic, but I want some opinions...

 

Since GTAO was launched I never go passive mode, and -like a lot of people- it is because I think the passive mode is a joke... a $500 fee to some asshole for ramming you? Sure, they'll learn something.

 

I don't know if somebody proposed this before but what about a non-contact passive mode? Because I'm sick of going to Ammu-Nation with a giant letter that says "Hey guys, kill me while I buy ammo". That's not the real problem, if I'm on foot and passive mode I have another giant letter that says "Hey, run the sh*t out of me, you will get a gift". Rockstar already created the non-contact races, so I don't see that so impossible.

 

Glitchers of course, but that would make the game more fair than getting a bunch of idiots behind me while I drive no wanting problems just because they're too afraid to fight in fair conditions.

 

What do you guys think? A non-contact passive mode would be a good/bad idea? Why?

No, that's not really a great idea. A non contact passive mode defeats the very idea of a free roam open session: player interaction.

 

Most of the problems people say they experience with passive mode, I don't have. So If you need some tips or advice on how to use it to your advantage, I'd be more than happy to help.

 

The only interaction players do is kill each other on sight or go out of their way to kill someone for no reason. Every MMO has no contact to make sure everything runs smoothly and no one can mess with another persons game experience. No contact in gta would more beneficial than anything because everyone just griefs in free roam and messes with other people. May aswell call this online version of GTA: Griefing Tanks Auto. The way I see it, is play nicely or don't play at all and move on to another game. No one will care you're gone and chances are you'll return.

[RoyalRedXIII]

 

 

No, that's not really a great idea. A non contact passive mode defeats the very idea of a free roam open session: player interaction.

Most of the problems people say they experience with passive mode, I don't have. So If you need some tips or advice on how to use it to your advantage, I'd be more than happy to help.

 

The only interaction players do is kill each other on sight or go out of their way to kill someone for no reason. Every MMO has no contact to make sure everything runs smoothly and no one can mess with another persons game experience. No contact in gta would more beneficial than anything because everyone just griefs in free roam and messes with other people. May aswell call this online version of GTA: Griefing Tanks Auto. The way I see it, is play nicely or don't play at all and move on to another game. No one will care you're gone and chances are you'll return.

LOL THATS EXACTLY MY POINT. Notice that I didn't specify what kind of player interaction, I only acknowledged that there was one.

 

Rockstar doesn't specify what kind of interaction to have either, which is the beauty of it, freedom of action. Sadly, most players do choose to play in a way that's just trollish. The act of killing other players IS NOT trollish by itself, but other things like tank griefing is. If they didn't want any killing tho, they wouldn't add guns to free roam.

 

Also please note that rockstar did anticipate this, and allowed players the option of a closed/ invite only session. So join a crew or make some friends. But it is extremely unreasonable to say "hey, I wanna play with other random people, but I wanna control the way that they can act around me." If you wanna be in a less hostile environment, play with friends that won't grief you.

 

If someone decides to be determined and play in free roam like every one else, but isn't very good, then like I said, I have some strategies that can help them survive. But a "no contact open session"? It's like ordering a supreme pizza and then taking off all the olives, onions, peepers and sausage. Just order a plain cheese pizza to begin with.

[Furry_Monkey]

I think this is a good idea. It's far too easy for people to grief passive mode players. Sure you can stand on a raised platform, do a quick-job transport, drink yourself to the hostpital etc., but why should you have to?

 

There should either be passive lobbies where there's no way to kill and everyone is there out of choice, or a fully working passive mode that does what people expect.

[RoyalRedXIII]

I think this is a good idea. It's far too easy for people to grief passive mode players. Sure you can stand on a raised platform, do a quick-job transport, drink yourself to the hostpital etc., but why should you have to?

 

There should either be passive lobbies where there's no way to kill and everyone is there out of choice, or a fully working passive mode that does what people expect.

 

Good idea or not, how bout for now players just learn how to better use it as it is?

 

Contrary to popular belief, passive mode DOES WORK for some people. Not everyone is a noob who just goes into passive mode and then stands out in the open expecting nothin to happen to them. There are some strategies that might help.

 

Ik, hard to believe right?

[AlienOne]

Wow. Read that wrong.

 

EDIT: It's actually only $50 not $500

Edited June 12, 2014 by AlienOne

[Furry_Monkey]

 

I think this is a good idea. It's far too easy for people to grief passive mode players. Sure you can stand on a raised platform, do a quick-job transport, drink yourself to the hostpital etc., but why should you have to?

 

There should either be passive lobbies where there's no way to kill and everyone is there out of choice, or a fully working passive mode that does what people expect.

 

Good idea or not, how bout for now players just learn how to better use it as it is?

 

Contrary to popular belief, passive mode DOES WORK for some people. Not everyone is a noob who just goes into passive mode and then stands out in the open expecting nothin to happen to them. There are some strategies that might help.

 

Ik, hard to believe right?

 

 

Of course there are some who don't know that they still have to be defensive in passive mode, but that's my problem with it. You shouldn't have to *do* anything other than turn it on. The fact that you have to have strategies to make it work says that it doesn't, or you're still being forced to do things by other players, which means you are not playing the way you want to.

[RoyalRedXIII]

 

 

I think this is a good idea. It's far too easy for people to grief passive mode players. Sure you can stand on a raised platform, do a quick-job transport, drink yourself to the hostpital etc., but why should you have to?

 

There should either be passive lobbies where there's no way to kill and everyone is there out of choice, or a fully working passive mode that does what people expect.

 

Good idea or not, how bout for now players just learn how to better use it as it is?

Contrary to popular belief, passive mode DOES WORK for some people. Not everyone is a noob who just goes into passive mode and then stands out in the open expecting nothin to happen to them. There are some strategies that might help.

Ik, hard to believe right?

 

Of course there are some who don't know that they still have to be defensive in passive mode, but that's my problem with it. You shouldn't have to *do* anything other than turn it on. The fact that you have to have strategies to make it work says that it doesn't, or you're still being forced to do things by other players, which means you are not playing the way you want to.

 

That's your opinion, and you have a right to that. But what I'm sayin is that I can see clearly why rockstar didn't make it that way, as I have explained in my previous posts. It seems unreasonable to be like "I wanna play with random strangers, but I wanna limit the way that they can act around me." If the hostile players are a threat that you don't wanna bother with dealing with, simply don't play with them.

 

Wether R* changes it or not, in the meantime I suppose you want everyone to continue getting killed and then go to a forum to complain about it instead of asking for help? Sounds good to me.

[Furry_Monkey]

That's your opinion, and you have a right to that. But what I'm sayin is that I can see clearly why rockstar didn't make it that way, as I have explained in my previous posts. It seems unreasonable to be like "I wanna play with random strangers, but I wanna limit the way that they can act around me." If the hostile players are a threat that you don't wanna bother with dealing with, simply don't play with them.

Wether R* changes it or not, in the meantime I suppose you want everyone to continue getting killed and then go to a forum to complain about it instead of asking for help? Sounds good to me.

 

 

"That's your opinion."

 

As for the last comment, thank you for reminding me why I added you to my ignore list. You're back on it again You're a douche who can't take a conflicting opinion, especially one that is backed up by such a strong explanation that your only response it to point out that it's only an opinion, rather than deal with the valid points of proof, and then make smarmy remarks to finish your post.

 

Good luck with being childish and smarmy - I will no longer see it, and you can stay on ignore this time, you utter buffoon.

Edited June 12, 2014 by Furry_Monkey

[dlow]

I like the ideal of passive mode actually working, if you in passive mode you are covered while on foot or in a vehicle, you cant run over other players or be ran over

 

Maybe have passive servers where players can go to meet other players, which would be real handy for new players until they get a feel for the game

 

if this is not possible, at least raise the hospital bill to a crazy amount like 100k or more, when you kill some one in passive mode, and make the bank account go negative if they dont have money

[RoyalRedXIII]

 

That's your opinion, and you have a right to that. But what I'm sayin is that I can see clearly why rockstar didn't make it that way, as I have explained in my previous posts. It seems unreasonable to be like "I wanna play with random strangers, but I wanna limit the way that they can act around me." If the hostile players are a threat that you don't wanna bother with dealing with, simply don't play with them.

 

Wether R* changes it or not, in the meantime I suppose you want everyone to continue getting killed and then go to a forum to complain about it instead of asking for help? Sounds good to me.

 

"That's your opinion."

 

As for the last comment, thank you for reminding me why I added you to my ignore list. You're back on it again You're a douche who can't take a conflicting opinion, especially one that is backed up by such a strong explanation that your only response it to point out that it's only an opinion, rather than deal with the valid points of proof, and then make smarmy remarks to finish your post.

 

Good luck with being childish and smarmy - I will no longer see it, and you can stay on ignore this time, you utter buffoon.

LMAO! So I let you express your opinion AND I CANT EXPRESS MINE? When did I say my opinion was a fact? YOUR THE ONE CALLING YOUR STATEMENTS FACTS. Lol you gotta be kidding me yo. Plus you've got the audacity to block me cause you didn't like what I had to say!? GTFO.

 

Not to mention, you completely ignored the second part of my statement when I asked you what do you expect players to do in the meantime if passive mode isn't changed. Smh.

 

The only childish thing here is that you have to block someone when you don't have your way in a discussion. That's really immature to decide to not hear someone else out. Calling me a name when I did no such thing to you is also very silly.

 

I really don't care either. My posts are for anyone who reads this thread, not to have a personal conversation with you. Wasn't even aware that you blocked me before, so when your ready to conduct yourself as an adult again, my comment will still be here for you to read.

 

Hopefully everyone can read this and see what kind of person you are -.- somebody please let me know I'm not crazy.

[Mr. Rocko]

This idea has been talked about for the longest, Rockstar doesn't have enough brain cells to do this

[lunaticz0r]

YEAH it's a great idea

Now i don't have to worry about people killing me after I go on murderous tank rampages!

Great Idea OP

You'll be helping tank griefers everywhere

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

 

 

 

 

 

Passive mode is like this for a reason

You wanna be left alone? Play invite only

This idea is a double edged sword.

One hand is that it lets people have an escape from the havoc

The other is to let griefers do their thing and walk away untouched

 

convinced me from thinking it was a good idea to a bad idea, nice one haha!