Rockstar's Policy is strict for GTA5's Engine RAGE

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Are you for real? This is simply common sense.

[GrandMaster Smith]

This kid's scared to death to mod a video game on his computer.. haha the FBI have more important sh*t to worry about, I assure you.

[SightsIn]

Single player modding has never, and will never get you banned by R*. Online modding, especially in the case of GTA:O, is almost always a bannable offense.

 

You should not get these two things confused, nor should you be making threads to spread misinformation based on your lack of understanding.

[Coin]

Is no section of GTAF safe from Fireman Sam?

 

Literally nothing to see here.

[Fireman Sam]

 

Yeah right, there's so much more than that.

 

"The FBI has taken a significant step forward by clarifying that cloud services are permissible, while also making clear that traditional commercial cloud service models cannot be implemented in the CJIS environment."

 

(What are you going to do now?)

http://www.wired.com/2012/02/fbi-cloud-security/

 

 

“THE FBI REMAINS COMMITTED TO USING TECHNOLOGY IN ITS INFORMATION-SHARING PROCESSES, BUT NOT AT THE SACRIFICE OF THE SECURITY OF THE INFORMATION WITH WHICH IT HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED,” STEPHEN FISCHER JR., A SPOKESMAN FOR THE FBI’S CJIS DIVISION, SAID ON TUESDAY IN AN E-MAIL TO COMPUTERWORLD.

 

"The FBI’s Fischer questions the position that the CJIS security rules are incompatible with cloud services. ”The CJIS Security Policy is a cloud-compatible policy,” that was fully vetted and approved by local, state, tribal and federal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and Canada, he told Computerworld on Tuesday. But he acknowledged, “the requirements may be tough for some vendors to meet.” There are cloud vendors who do meet the CJIS requirements, namely using secure data centers staffed by people who have undergone FBI background checks. The Computerworld report cites InterAct Public Safety, Datamaxx, and Vertical Computer Services as cloud companies who meet the requirement. And the FBI has made meeting the requirements easier for cloud vendors, one analyst told Computerworld."

http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blogs/fostering-cloud-in-law-enforcement-p-1555/op-1

 

In essence 'the cloud' is just a cluster of servers that store data. The cloud can actually be more insecure than normal server (in part because it's a new concept). The FBI and other law enforcement are staying away from the cloud for that very reason. Rockstar can look up any ones IP, as can I, or anyone else for that matter (so long as they aren't hiding it) but that doesn't really mean anything, it just means they have your IP, ISP and location.

 

TL;DR The cloud is insecure and R* can't use it to detect hacks any more than the severs now can.

 

Don't you get it?

 

Any social network that you are using everyday, they basically collect data from your Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

 

Popular Website services had been used by big CORPORATIONS. And guess what they do to your personal internet information. They make money off of you and selling your personal information to the government. The National Security Agency is B.S.

Ever since Facebook was a CIA operation tool to know everybody WTF they are doing. There is no hiding anymore, even the cloud storage is operated.

 

Facebook was a tool operation to collect everybody's data.

 

The FBI, CIA, and NSA snooping your tracks.

http://www.zdnet.com/yes-the-fbi-and-cia-can-read-your-email-heres-how-7000007319/

 

Even Microsoft admits snooping Hotmails

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/03/21/microsoft-snooped-hotmail/6682831/

 

 

Of course the NSA is tapping your Cloud storage data, phones, emailing they've been doing that since 9/11.

 

/http://www.activistpost.com/2014/02/nsa-proof-your-cloud-storage-data-with.html

 

 

Lastly, the NSA Whistle-blower . Edward Snowden leaked that the NSA was spying on Americans. Not just Americans, the NSA was also tapping to other countries. The Germany Chancellor was being spied by the NSA.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/german-chancellor-amongst-list-of-nsas-list-of-high-value-targets/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

 

And you only have yourself to blame for whatever personal information you put online. Facebook and most e-mail providers have no service charges so of course they're going to sell your info, that's how they make money. They aren't the boogeymen, the real one is staring at you when you look at yourself in the mirror.

Edited June 12, 2014 by WhatsStrength

[Ezza.]

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

Exactly what this guys said.

The FBI are talking about servers that actually hold potentially confidential data.

 

Facebook contains information about peoples names, DOB, email, phone numbers, IP, ISP location, as does Google, Amazon and all government websites.

 

I don't think you'll be arrested and sent to prison for modding a Lambo into online, or making everyone poledance on an invisible pole on a floating Ferris wheel. Anyway, the FBI's in the US, so all I can say to them if they want to arrest me for modding the Single Player component of a BRITISH videogame is,

 

[Yogensia]

You would find stuff like this in any game's EULA with a multiplayer these days. I think these things are usually to grant themselves the power to act and ban you if you severely damage the multiplayer component, like a mod or hack that lets others cheat. It doesn't mean they will always enforce this, but of course they would ban you if you are ruining multiplayer for everyone with cheating mods, and they better or the multiplayer would be a joke. I hope there's a sandbox mode for hacks however, and that modders are respectful enough you use that. But plain cheating hacks will appear and hopefully R* can bans those who use them online.

 

R+ should not just try to fight mods, that would end badly for everyone. GTA games have a strong modding community on PC, they don't have to support it with tools but they have to understand the implications. Instead of completely banning online mods, try to give players options, try to offer a multiplayer "sandbox free" mode where you can use mods, and then a more strict controlled environment/economy for GTAOnline without mods allowed. Just banning mods completely won't end well in my opinion.

[Fireman Sam]

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

 

And you only have yourself to blame for whatever personal information you put online. Facebook and most e-mail providers have no service charges so of course they're going to sell your info, that's how they make money. They aren't the boogeymen, the real one is staring at you when you look at yourself in the mirror.

LOL! HAHAHAHA! You too, you are even putting personal information in your own facebook, gta5 forums.

 

HAHA! Since you thinking to hack or mod gta5. the real one is when you post your own post like right now.

[1987_EC]

i dont think they really care about modding as long as the user does not ruin the online multiplayer of the game then modding sp only is gonna be completey fine...thats for certain and thats enough to enjoy mods.

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Come again? Nothing you just said makes any sense.

 

-edit- Directed at the fireman, not the above poster.

Edited June 12, 2014 by WhatsStrength

[Fireman Sam]

 

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

Exactly what this guys said.

The FBI are talking about servers that actually hold potentially confidential data.

 

Facebook contains information about peoples names, DOB, email, phone numbers, IP, ISP location, as does Google, Amazon and all government websites.

 

I don't think you'll be arrested and sent to prison for modding a Lambo into online, or making everyone poledance on an invisible pole on a floating Ferris wheel. Anyway, the FBI's in the US, so all I can say to them if they want to arrest me for modding the Single Player component of a BRITISH videogame is,

 

 

 

How about the British government spying on its citizens?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-mass-surveillance-by-government-spy-agencies-is-squalid-and-rancid-9514904.html

Come again? Nothing you just said makes any sense.

 

-edit- Directed at the fireman, not the above poster.

You don't understand how big corporations uses your information? Do you?

 

Modding Online is NOT SAFE

[SNIT01]

Wall of text

 

I fully understand the dta collection, hell I'm a software engineering student at university, we're taught how to do it. What I'm saying is that they cant really do anything with the data they collect with out doing something illegal or in the case of governments collecting data, they cant doing anything without a warrant. It's in a companies best interest not to f*ck over their customers, this is why google and facebook only sell the information WITHOUT NAMES ATTACHED. The info they sell cant be traced back to an individual.

 

Another way of explaining:

You're hitting two issues here, 1: The federal governments data mining and 2: The way companies hand data the auto collect by you visiting their site.

 

In the former case, you are protect by law and have nothing to worry about unless you do something stupid and in the later case companies need your business so they don't want to piss you off thus anything they sell is anonymous and most of it is just data the use to make advertising target you.

 

What the NSA did was legal because they had warrants, and only targeted suspects (not to defend the NSA).

 

All in all you're exaggerating the issue, most likely because you don't fully understand what's going on, you'll need to trust me, unless you do something illegal or extremely stupid that'll get on a watch list, you'll be fine.

 

 

EDIT:

 

To point out the obvious: All countries do at least some internal spying, but more importantly the people they are spying on ARE NOT INNOCENT.

Edited June 12, 2014 by SNIT01

[TheGodDamnMaster]

@Fireman Sam

 

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Edited June 12, 2014 by WhatsStrength

[Ezza.]

 

 

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

Exactly what this guys said.

The FBI are talking about servers that actually hold potentially confidential data.

 

Facebook contains information about peoples names, DOB, email, phone numbers, IP, ISP location, as does Google, Amazon and all government websites.

 

I don't think you'll be arrested and sent to prison for modding a Lambo into online, or making everyone poledance on an invisible pole on a floating Ferris wheel. Anyway, the FBI's in the US, so all I can say to them if they want to arrest me for modding the Single Player component of a BRITISH videogame is,

 

 

 

How about the British government spying on its citizens?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-mass-surveillance-by-government-spy-agencies-is-squalid-and-rancid-9514904.html

 

"Uhhh, a'right lads, ehhhm, we've got some suspicious activity in ehhhmmm, Australia"

 

"Orstralia? Wot's goin on in Orstralia?"

 

"We've ehhm, picked oop a possible na'ional se'urity freat"

 

"Wot tha flamin ell is it? You know, Queen and country n all les ear it"

 

"Ehhhhmm, we've picked oop this ehhhm, kid, he souns abowt 12 or summin like dat awright, awright. We bewieve he ehhm, downloaded a MOD for Grand Feft Auto Online"

 

"Awwhhhh, th orror'. Wha was it come on now les' hear it les hear it."

 

"Ehhhmm, we bewieved he ehhm, downwoaded amod that ehhhm changes the targe'ing reticwe to ehhhhmm, more realis'ic"

 

"Oh, the flamin orror' we be'er cawwwwll the EssAyyyEss, we be'er"

 

Things heat up at MI7

 

 

Obviously this is meant to be a joke to make the OP see how silly it is that a secret service would spy on you for modding a videogame. These stereotypes aren't meant to offend someone. Just meant to be a ri ol lawwwwfff, a'ight lads? Like we laugh at STRAYA!

 

Edited June 12, 2014 by EZza2647

[Fireman Sam]

 

Wall of text

 

I fully understand the dta collection, hell I'm a software engineering student at university, we're taught how to do it. What I'm saying is that they cant really do anything with the data they collect with out doing something illegal or in the case of governments collecting data, they cant doing anything without a warrant. It's in a companies best interest not to f*ck over their customers, this is why google and facebook only sell the information WITHOUT NAMES ATTACHED. The info they sell cant be traced back to an individual.

 

Another way of explaining:

You're hitting two issues here, 1: The federal governments data mining and 2: The way companies hand data the auto collect by you visiting their site.

 

In the former case, you are protect by law and have nothing to worry about unless you do something stupid and in the later case companies need your business so they don't want to piss you off thus anything they sell is anonymous and most of it is just data the use to make advertising target you.

 

What the NSA did was legal because they had warrants, and only targeted suspects (not to defend the NSA).

 

All in all you're exaggerating the issue, most likely because you don't fully understand what's going on, you'll need to trust me, unless you do something illegal or extremely stupid that'll get on a watch list, you'll be fine.

 

 

EDIT:

 

To point out the obvious: All countries do at least some internal spying, but more importantly the people they are spying on ARE NOT INNOCENT.

 

Well said brother.

 

The Feds already broke the law, one of them from the Bill of Rights.

 

 

 

Enough with the political riff-raff, it's completely irrelevant to this non-issue.

 

Even if you did mod or hack in Online they'd simply ban you and patch the exploit. The FBI and NSA have much larger fish to fry than worrying about such petty bullsh*t.

Exactly what this guys said.

The FBI are talking about servers that actually hold potentially confidential data.

 

Facebook contains information about peoples names, DOB, email, phone numbers, IP, ISP location, as does Google, Amazon and all government websites.

 

I don't think you'll be arrested and sent to prison for modding a Lambo into online, or making everyone poledance on an invisible pole on a floating Ferris wheel. Anyway, the FBI's in the US, so all I can say to them if they want to arrest me for modding the Single Player component of a BRITISH videogame is,

 

 

 

How about the British government spying on its citizens?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-mass-surveillance-by-government-spy-agencies-is-squalid-and-rancid-9514904.html

 

"Uhhh, a'right lads, ehhhm, we've got some suspicious activity in ehhhmmm, Australia"

 

"Orstralia? Wot's goin on in Orstralia?"

 

"We've ehhm, picked oop a possible na'ional se'urity freat"

 

"Wot tha flamin ell is it? You know, Queen and country n all les ear it"

 

"Ehhhhmm, we've picked oop this ehhhm, kid, he souns abowt 12 or summin like dat awright, awright. We bewieve he ehhm, downloaded a MOD for Grand Feft Auto Online"

 

"Awwhhhh, th orror'. Wha was it come on now les' hear it les hear it."

 

"Ehhhmm, we bewieved he ehhm, downwoaded amod that ehhhm changes the targe'ing reticwe to ehhhhmm, more realis'ic"

 

"Oh, the flamin orror' we be'er cawwwwll the EssAyyyEss, we be'er"

 

Things heat up at MI7

 

 

Obviously this is meant to be a joke to make the OP see how silly it is that a secret service would spy on you for modding a videogame. These stereotypes aren't meant to offend someone. Just meant to be a ri ol lawwwwfff, a'ight lads? Like we laugh at STRAYA!

 

 

Nice example.

[1987_EC]

"Involved in the hacking of Sony Pictures Entertainment servers"

I doubt you will have the FBI after you for hacking Gta online with a VPN... Get real dude.

this ^

can you even compare an average gamer who use hacks on a video game (for fun) to a real hacker who really hacks into sensitive stuff from realife...?

i dont think so, the maximum they can do is like you said maybe ban you (for using it online..again sp shouldnt be a problem), i also dont think they have the time to deal with players who use hacks it doesnt worth their time and effort aswell.

Edited June 12, 2014 by 1987_EC

[kj2022]

Modding online will obviously have it's risks, but Rockstar often supports and praises modders in single player. Most modders will probably only mod the single player anyway, and unless you're planning on decompiling RAGE and selling it on, you're safe.

[Fireman Sam]

@Fireman Sam

 

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Um okay... What if Rockstar finds out if we MODDED Online in PC?

 

"Involved in the hacking of Sony Pictures Entertainment servers"

I doubt you will have the FBI after you for hacking Gta online with a VPN... Get real dude.

this ^

can you even compare an average gamer who use hacks on a video game(for fun) to a real hacker who really hacks into sensitive stuff from realife...?

i dont think so, the maximum they can do is like you said maybe ban you(for using it online..again sp shouldnt be a problem), i also dont think they have the time to deal with players who use hacks it doesnt worth their time and effort aswell.

 

You think Rockstar will have better security plans for PC?

[SNIT01]

 

 

Wall of text

I fully understand the dta collection, hell I'm a software engineering student at university, we're taught how to do it. What I'm saying is that they cant really do anything with the data they collect with out doing something illegal or in the case of governments collecting data, they cant doing anything without a warrant. It's in a companies best interest not to f*ck over their customers, this is why google and facebook only sell the information WITHOUT NAMES ATTACHED. The info they sell cant be traced back to an individual.

 

Another way of explaining:

You're hitting two issues here, 1: The federal governments data mining and 2: The way companies hand data the auto collect by you visiting their site.

 

In the former case, you are protect by law and have nothing to worry about unless you do something stupid and in the later case companies need your business so they don't want to piss you off thus anything they sell is anonymous and most of it is just data the use to make advertising target you.

 

What the NSA did was legal because they had warrants, and only targeted suspects (not to defend the NSA).

 

All in all you're exaggerating the issue, most likely because you don't fully understand what's going on, you'll need to trust me, unless you do something illegal or extremely stupid that'll get on a watch list, you'll be fine.

 

 

EDIT:

 

To point out the obvious: All countries do at least some internal spying, but more importantly the people they are spying on ARE NOT INNOCENT.

 

Well said brother.

 

The Feds already broke the law, one of them from the Bill of Rights.

 

Well actually what I said was that the feds hadn't broken the law and that only those who had broken laws or were suspected of doing so were spied on with the permission of a FISA warrant.

 

Once again, I'm not sure you fully understand how the system works and how spying is conducted. Regardless NONE of this is relevant to GTA Online, and our data is safe with R* and modding is safe so long as you're not a dick about it.

[Ezza.]

 

@Fireman Sam

 

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Um okay... What if Rockstar finds out if we MODDED Online in PC?

 

Then you'll be banned or given a warning.

 

Are you selling the mod for a profit? No

Are you stealing others account/ISP information? No

 

It's not like we-uh Rockstar have a dungeon where we keep all the modders locked up, only ever Letting DomIsLive out to do a livestream or anything

[Fireman Sam]

Y

 

 

 

 

Wall of text

I fully understand the dta collection, hell I'm a software engineering student at university, we're taught how to do it. What I'm saying is that they cant really do anything with the data they collect with out doing something illegal or in the case of governments collecting data, they cant doing anything without a warrant. It's in a companies best interest not to f*ck over their customers, this is why google and facebook only sell the information WITHOUT NAMES ATTACHED. The info they sell cant be traced back to an individual.

Another way of explaining:
You're hitting two issues here, 1: The federal governments data mining and 2: The way companies hand data the auto collect by you visiting their site.

In the former case, you are protect by law and have nothing to worry about unless you do something stupid and in the later case companies need your business so they don't want to piss you off thus anything they sell is anonymous and most of it is just data the use to make advertising target you.

What the NSA did was legal because they had warrants, and only targeted suspects (not to defend the NSA).

All in all you're exaggerating the issue, most likely because you don't fully understand what's going on, you'll need to trust me, unless you do something illegal or extremely stupid that'll get on a watch list, you'll be fine.


EDIT:

To point out the obvious: All countries do at least some internal spying, but more importantly the people they are spying on ARE NOT INNOCENT.

 

Well said brother.

The Feds already broke the law, one of them from the Bill of Rights.

 

Well actually what I said was that the feds hadn't broken the law and that only those who had broken laws or were suspected of doing so were spied on with the permission of a FISA warrant.

Once again, I'm not sure you fully understand how the system works and how spying is conducted. Regardless NONE of this is relevant to GTA Online, and our data is safe with R* and modding is safe so long as you're not a dick about it.

 

How can Rockstar Cloud servers improve? Modding is only safe in single-player right?

 

 

@Fireman Sam

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Um okay... What if Rockstar finds out if we MODDED Online in PC?

 

Then you'll be banned or given a warning.

 

Are you selling the mod for a profit? No

Are you stealing others account/ISP information? No

 

It's not like we-uh Rockstar have a dungeon where we keep all the modders locked up, only ever Letting DomIsLive out to do a livestream or anything

 

How about cash cards becoming like a black market?

[1987_EC]

 

@Fireman Sam

 

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Um okay... What if Rockstar finds out if we MODDED Online in PC?

 

"Involved in the hacking of Sony Pictures Entertainment servers"

I doubt you will have the FBI after you for hacking Gta online with a VPN... Get real dude.

this ^

can you even compare an average gamer who use hacks on a video game(for fun) to a real hacker who really hacks into sensitive stuff from realife...?

i dont think so, the maximum they can do is like you said maybe ban you(for using it online..again sp shouldnt be a problem), i also dont think they have the time to deal with players who use hacks it doesnt worth their time and effort aswell.

 

You think Rockstar will have better security plans for PC?

 

well maybe and maybe not but i hope they do have some better online antihacking system implemented into the game this time around, anyway i really dont have any problem just using mods in sp, i completely respect their policy and im fine with that.

Edited June 12, 2014 by 1987_EC

[Fireman Sam]

Like I said before, Don't try modding Online for PC.

[lpgunit]

It's nothing new, Sam. And seriously, you're just overreacting to a relatively trivial issue. You're no different from those tinfoil nutjobs who are the real cause of America's problems, among other things.

 

Edited June 12, 2014 by lpgunit

[TheGodDamnMaster]

Like I said before, Don't try modding Online for PC.

Thank you for those insightful words of wisdom. I don't what I would have done without your guidance Fireman Sam.

[Fireman Sam]

 

 

@Fireman Sam

 

Once again, you're making this political when it doesn't need to be At this point I think you're either a troll or (and I hate to have say this) simply an uneducated conspiracy nut trying to spread anti-government propaganda everywhere you go. In either case you can't expect me to take you seriously anymore.

Um okay... What if Rockstar finds out if we MODDED Online in PC?

 

"Involved in the hacking of Sony Pictures Entertainment servers"

I doubt you will have the FBI after you for hacking Gta online with a VPN... Get real dude.

this ^

can you even compare an average gamer who use hacks on a video game(for fun) to a real hacker who really hacks into sensitive stuff from realife...?

i dont think so, the maximum they can do is like you said maybe ban you(for using it online..again sp shouldnt be a problem), i also dont think they have the time to deal with players who use hacks it doesnt worth their time and effort aswell.

 

You think Rockstar will have better security plans for PC?

 

well maybe or maybe not but i hope they do have some better online antihacking system implemented into the game this time around, anyway i really dont have any problem just using mods in sp, i completely respect their policy and im fine with that.

 

For the PlayStation3 and Xbox 360 are still having problems?

why didn't Rockstar GTA5 release GTA5 for PS4 and Xbox One in the first place?

 

You know current gens are working hard on GTA5

[Ezza.]

How about cash cards becoming like a black market?

That's impossible.

 

1) Cash cards don't exist. They're intangible. It's like going into a store to buy ITunes cards without verifying them at the register. They have to be verified by both Microsoft/Sony and R* before you get the cash

 

2) Cash Cards have nothing to with the RAGE engine. They're server based. The only way you'd be prosecuted for reverse engineering the RAGE (Rockstar Something Game Engine) is if you found out exactly how it worked then sold it to another game development company. EA, Ubi, Hactyoutelevision, even small time dev studios like Gameloft. You'd be a rich criminal, but you'd still be a criminal

[Fireman Sam]

 

Like I said before, Don't try modding Online for PC.

Thank you for those insightful words of wisdom. I don't what I would have done without your guidance Fireman Sam.

 

You know what professional people say?

 

" I'm just doing my job."

 

LOL

 

How about cash cards becoming like a black market?

That's impossible.

 

1) Cash cards don't exist. They're intangible. It's like going into a store to buy ITunes cards without verifying them at the register. They have to be verified by both Microsoft/Sony and R* before you get the cash

 

2) Cash Cards have nothing to with the RAGE engine. They're server based. The only way you'd be prosecuted for reverse engineering the RAGE (Rockstar Something Game Engine) is if you found out exactly how it worked then sold it to another game development company. EA, Ubi, Hactyoutelevision, even small time dev studios like Gameloft. You'd be a rich criminal, but you'd still be a criminal

 

How about the Rich people doing this for Online? Would you be happy if Rich people do this too?

[sjaak327]

 

Wall of text

I fully understand the dta collection, hell I'm a software engineering student at university, we're taught how to do it. What I'm saying is that they cant really do anything with the data they collect with out doing something illegal or in the case of governments collecting data, they cant doing anything without a warrant. It's in a companies best interest not to f*ck over their customers, this is why google and facebook only sell the information WITHOUT NAMES ATTACHED. The info they sell cant be traced back to an individual.

 

Another way of explaining:

You're hitting two issues here, 1: The federal governments data mining and 2: The way companies hand data the auto collect by you visiting their site.

 

In the former case, you are protect by law and have nothing to worry about unless you do something stupid and in the later case companies need your business so they don't want to piss you off thus anything they sell is anonymous and most of it is just data the use to make advertising target you.

 

What the NSA did was legal because they had warrants, and only targeted suspects (not to defend the NSA).

 

All in all you're exaggerating the issue, most likely because you don't fully understand what's going on, you'll need to trust me, unless you do something illegal or extremely stupid that'll get on a watch list, you'll be fine.

 

 

EDIT:

 

To point out the obvious: All countries do at least some internal spying, but more importantly the people they are spying on ARE NOT INNOCENT.

 

I'm not so sure Google (or Facebook) don't sell data that isn't linked to individuals, if they didn't their data would be next to worthless. They sell the data so that individuals (YOU and me and others) can be targeted with advertisements and other nice stuff.

 

This is why I highly detest a company such as Google, and make no mistake, they are a datamining and advertising company that's how the make money.

 

Data mining by governments should also stop. Surely it would be illegal in most countries to pro-activily tap into Phone calls, yet data mining isn't a problem. Data mining should only be possible with a warrant, yet the warrant is only needed for the data to be admissable in court, the data mining practice can commence without a warrant.

 

If the postal companies in the world would open mail everyone would scream bloody murder, yet massive data mining is ok ? Doesn't make sense.