[V] Steam (Part 1)

[Zer0w5]

Thing with PC is that the mods will always entertain the player, whereas with the PS4 and XONE version well you get the picture.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Zer0w5

[fdiuhywsu]

 

Either way, I don't really care about these Steam users playing. It means nothing to me, when the real important stuff is already locked in and nothing will change it. PC is releasing January 27th at the very earliest, and no amount of users playing the game on Steam before then will change that fact.

 

 

^This.

 

I don't understand why people are getting hyped when they see someone playing/testing the steam version, how does this change our situation?

[AlasClarin]

 

 

> Implying they care about PC and they would do any trailer for us.

 

To me it's this way (Rockstar Headquarters): "well, if we already made the effort for PS4 and Xbox One and they use the same architecture that PC, it's just 2 months after next-gen release to port it to PC, let's just do that and let's make those silly PC boys think that we care about them eheheheheHEHEHUHAHA muh profit muh doritos muh cinematic experience muh mountain dew".

 

Thx, Rockstar, thx. It better run like f*cking silky smooth butter on wet flat marble floor after a goddamn rainy day.

 

 

 

don't take this the wrong way, but for the fifteenth million time, GTA V on PC is NOT a console port. it's the other way around,actually.

 

the PS4/XB1 consoles did not even EXIST when the PC version of this game began development. there is a developer log that was discovered last year and several other pieces of detailed information showing that the PC version was developed independently and well before anyone even knew about the new consoles.

 

https://googledrive.com/host/0B-JdId1SslCJNEIweDFobGl2MzA/builds.xml

 

the PS4/XB1 versions are PC ports.

 

PC build is the base version for those ports.

 

they completed the PC version first and then ported the game over to those consoles over the course of several months.

 

it was developed from the ground up on PC over the course of years, not months.

 

clear enough?

 

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for f*cks sake rockstar, open your goddamn mouths and confirm it already so this kind of ignorance finally ceases. you barely said a damn thing about max payne 3's PC version and that's why 2 and half years later there are still people thinking that game was a mere console port. the same will be true of gta v if you don't clarify things.

 

you love blowing smoke about the new consoles and their "power" (outdated hardware), can you pay the same respect to the PC platform for once as well? after all, it's the very reason you're going to be making so much money this holiday season. it's the least you could do, for your PC fans and your developers who worked so hard on it.

 

That's not the point, the point is that the motivation to make the new version with so many new additions that PS3 / Xbox 360 don't have is because they did plan ahead a PS4 / Xbox One release, I'm pretty sure. If they didn't wanted to make it for PS4 and Xbox One I'm sure they would have just merely port the PS3 / Xbox 360 versions with better graphics and one or two things.

Edited November 6, 2014 by AlasClarin

[Choteron]

In the final scene of the comparision trailer you can notice that in the ps4 version the cars in the distance are visible.

I wonder how much better will be the draw distance in PC.

[Spider-Vice]

Although the PC version was next gen's base platform, they're very probably still working and optimising the PC version, because there's more work to be done on that than on a console with a set hardware and set limits. According to CVG I think, Rockstar was still exploring whether they could go above 4K on PC or not, so it's definitely still in development.

[Antaxi]

In the final scene of the comparision trailer you can notice that in the ps4 version the cars in the distance are visible.

I wonder how much better will be the draw distance in PC.

 

fake cars prob car lods with lighting effects

yeah they added many of them nice

[Mafro]

https://twitter.com/dmc_ryan/status/530123440024748032 New footage today?

 

Edit: Nvm, he just said there's no video. But at least we'll have some new info.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Mafro

[Coolstream]

Probably some information about how Online has changed, I'm hoping they might be able to sneak in the maximum amount of players on PC as well.

 

 

According to CVG I think, Rockstar was still exploring whether they could go above 4K on PC or not, so it's definitely still in development.

They can, but unless they're planning this game to have a ridiculous life span, nothing will be able to use it.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Coolstream

[HesamB]

I'm pretty sure this is how it works and you should agree with me( If you don't I'll f*cking stab a bitch ) :

 

There will be no mention of PC till about early January (PS4/XONE version's sales should be done by then,not done but u know what I mean)

 

then we'll get a PC trailer showing new contents that's never been mentioned before and they would be only available on PC and so intriguing that console owners will buy the game on PC, again.

 

then the Grand release on PC and then the sales can't be compared to console versions but they still will be a record compared to the last GTA PC releases (their sales were embarrassing).

 

Did I miss sth? tell me.

Edited November 6, 2014 by HesamB

[The Algerian]

 

 

I dont give a f¨**k f is 1080 or 4K, i want to see one damn screenshot from PC on ultra settings.

But yes probably we need to wait to end of december because now they want to milk consoles boys. Greedy bastards R

 

Oh my god. Another "greedy bastards" statement? You do realize that this is how business and hype works, right?

 

You can deny that they are greedy. And i have the right to say what i want like it or not.

 

 

Calm down, mate. It's just business.

"Greedy", "greedy", ehm sure, so what? They're not making those game just so you can enjoy it, of course they want to make as much money out of it as they can.

Of course they'll barely mention the PC version and make it look like it's just an afterthought, they need to sell as much console versions as they can.

A console version costs much more money to distribute, they need to make it financially viable, a publisher only ever see 10$ out of every 70$ console copy they sell.

 

The last thing they want is for NewGen console owners to think "heh, PC will be better, I'll just wait for that".

[NYC PATROL]

In the final scene of the comparision trailer you can notice that in the ps4 version the cars in the distance are visible.

I wonder how much better will be the draw distance in PC.

Also if you look closely you can see that some of the headlights have a car shape blob (lol) attached to them so it doesn't just look like lights floating down the highway. Pretty neat.

Edited November 6, 2014 by NYC PATROL

[Choteron]

 

In the final scene of the comparision trailer you can notice that in the ps4 version the cars in the distance are visible.

I wonder how much better will be the draw distance in PC.

 

fake cars prob car lods with lighting effects

yeah they added many of them nice

Looks very nice!

I love the lighting in this game

[JasonStatham]

They will do PC trailer after console release, when excatly is unknown, but there will be trailer showing PC version and probaly that in-game video editor.

 

Good to see you again around the forums Btw I just got myself a Xbox One controller for PC and I gotta say it's a f*ckin' beast, the triggers and steering sensitivity simply rocks so I can't wait to test it out on GTA V..

[Coolstream]

 

They will do PC trailer after console release, when excatly is unknown, but there will be trailer showing PC version and probaly that in-game video editor.

 

Good to see you again around the forums Btw I just got myself a Xbox One controller for PC and I gotta say it's a f*ckin' beast, the triggers and steering sensitivity simply rocks so I can't wait to test it out on GTA V..

 

 

On the subject of Xbone controllers, does anyone know if a third party has made what is generally a copy of the Xbone controller but with the same transmitter from Xbox 360?

 

I'm asking because USB cables suck.

[Snorlax]

 

I dont give a f¨**k f is 1080 or 4K, i want to see one damn screenshot from PC on ultra settings.

But yes probably we need to wait to end of december because now they want to milk consoles boys. Greedy bastards R

 

Oh my god. Another "greedy bastards" statement? You do realize that this is how business and hype works, right?

 

 

and you do realize that doesn't make it any more acceptable, right?

 

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off topic. but ubisoft just released a new video detailing PC exclusive features in far cry 4. it looks gorgeous on PC - it's definitely graphically superior to the ps4/xb1 console versions.

 

 

 

let's hope rockstar does the same.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Snorlax

[Evan-KCR]

^ That's interesting. I didn't expect them to do that.

[The Algerian]

 

 

I dont give a f¨**k f is 1080 or 4K, i want to see one damn screenshot from PC on ultra settings.

But yes probably we need to wait to end of december because now they want to milk consoles boys. Greedy bastards R

 

Oh my god. Another "greedy bastards" statement? You do realize that this is how business and hype works, right?

 

 

and you do realize that doesn't make it any more acceptable, right?

 

 

 

 

And you do realize that if it doesn't sell amazingly on consoles, they'll stop making these games at all, right?

Can you remind me the development costs? Do you think investors would shell out that much money for a product that may not even make their money back?

[Phil Cassidy7]

First person in online confirmed, i have a bad feeling about this.

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2014 by Loveint

[Zer0w5]

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52344/ign-preview-what-s-in-store-for-gta-online

 

GTA:O has First Person Mode too

Edited November 6, 2014 by Zer0w5

[Evan-KCR]

^ That was already confirmed, right?

[arvark]

 

 

I dont give a f¨**k f is 1080 or 4K, i want to see one damn screenshot from PC on ultra settings.

But yes probably we need to wait to end of december because now they want to milk consoles boys. Greedy bastards R

 

Oh my god. Another "greedy bastards" statement? You do realize that this is how business and hype works, right?

 

 

and you do realize that doesn't make it any more acceptable, right?

 

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edit:

 

off topic. but ubisoft just released a new video detailing PC exclusive features in far cry 4. it looks gorgeous on PC - it's definitely graphically superior to the ps4/xb1 console versions.

 

 

 

let's hope rockstar does the same.

 

Was I the only one who noticed that the HBAO+ speech is the same as W_D?

[Coolstream]

Was I the only one who noticed that the HBAO+ speech is the same as W_D?

 

Exact same audio used or just similar? It's not like HBAO+ has drastically changed.

[arvark]

The words.

[Spider-Vice]

 

 

edit:

 

off topic. but ubisoft just released a new video detailing PC exclusive features in far cry 4. it looks gorgeous on PC - it's definitely graphically superior to the ps4/xb1 console versions.

 

 

 

let's hope rockstar does the same.

 

That just looks astonishing. They probably did this on purpose because Rockstar launched the comparison trailer for V. Rockstar will probably launch a behemoth of a trailer for PC too I bet

 

Also, oh Ubisoft, NVIDIA trailer. ANd knowing what happened with Watch Dogs, that Far Cry may not be what we're getting.

Edited November 6, 2014 by Spider-Vice

[Snorlax]

 

 

That's not the point, the point is that the motivation to make the new version with so many new additions that PS3 / Xbox 360 don't have is because they did plan ahead a PS4 / Xbox One release, I'm pretty sure. If they didn't wanted to make it for PS4 and Xbox One I'm sure they would have just merely port the PS3 / Xbox 360 versions with better graphics and one or two things.

 

 

 

 

sorry andreas/mods, i'm going to go off topic for a moment. move if needed. wall of text incoming.

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oh definitely, i'm not denying that as a possibility. i'm also inclined to believe that was the main reason for making an advanced PC version - because they were anticipating the new consoles.

 

it should be noted that rockstar began developing the game almost immediately after finishing gta iv, so sometime in 2008.

 

the first entry in the log is them adding the base version to the creator in april of 2009, so obviously work started before that date.

 

the thing is, outside of sony and microsoft, no one knew about the future consoles, much less when they would release. they simply didn't exist outside of concept art at sony's/microsoft offices. so it's highly unlikely that rockstar was planning a "next-gen" release from the very beginning.

 

there is evidence, however, that rockstar may have intentionally delayed gta v multiple times because they were waiting on the new consoles or because they wanted to shorten the gap between releases.

 

perhaps they were under the impression that the new consoles were going to be out by 2011 because one of the original release dates for gta v was 2010.

 

here's a take-two (publisher) IP portfolio that was leaked by a former rockstar employee (kudos to S1LV3R_W0LF for saving it). if you read through it, you can see that gta v was originally slated for a 2010 release, just look at how many years it got pushed back.

 

 

 

 

the former rockstar employee (who made several posts in this very forum before being banned and deleted) said the game was virtually finished by early 2012 and that it was going to release that same year as well. that didn't happen, obviously, but it goes to show that rockstar kept delaying the game despite sources saying it was already complete.

 

they were bug testing during that time as well, so they weren't just sitting on the game for that long (bug testing to kill time never hurts), but it's clear to see from the log that the base builds of the game were basically towards the end of their development cycles since 2012, just like the rockstar employee said.

 

from all the evidence that's been gathered, i believe they did delay the game because of the new consoles. just think about it, had they released V in 2010 or 2012, the separation between that release and a next-gen release would have been too long and resulted in massive sale losses. so they delayed accordingly and managed to get a much smaller gap by releasing it towards the end of 2013 with the new versions in 2014.

 

it should also be noted that the PS4/XB1 or "orbis" and "durango" names are mentioned nowhere in the main developer log which ended in august of 2013. the orbis and durango place holder codes found inside another file in the 360 version were also from around that same time, but those were simple lines of place holder code, no actual development had taken place yet.

 

the PC version must have been in a finalized stage or very close to being finished by that time as well, because they started porting the game to the PS4/XB1 sometime in late 2013 after the last gen versions launched.

 

more sources came out and said the PS4 port had been finished since march of 2014 and that the xb1 version was soon to be finished as well. so why did they wait until fall 2014 to release? because of money. the holiday season is their most profitable quarter of the year. they could have released during the summer, but nope, they want that serious moola, not chump change. it's almost certainly the reason why they pushed the PC version release into 2015 as well.

 

rockstar is the king of intentional delays for the purpose of benefit. they will delay a game for months or years even if that delay means potentially higher profit margins. the positive aspect of that is their games turn out to be extremely polished as a result.

 

they're surely greedy sons of bitches, but they're business department is also extremely intelligent.

[MarshallRawR]

Errr.. is this a regular police "van" in GTA V? (it's taken from Online, I thought you cannot customize police cars, but was heavily requested).

 

 

[CookinSmokeey]

 

Can someone direct link the PS3/PS4 Comparison video from the R* Website? I downloaded the first person video from someones link here. I want this one too.

There you go.

 

http://videos.rockstargames.com/streams/V-en_us-comparison-1280.wmv.zip

 

 

 

How did you get this download link ? I want to download all GTA V trailers..

[Phil Cassidy7]

 

 

Can someone direct link the PS3/PS4 Comparison video from the R* Website? I downloaded the first person video from someones link here. I want this one too.

There you go.

 

http://videos.rockstargames.com/streams/V-en_us-comparison-1280.wmv.zip

 

 

 

How did you get this download link ? I want to download all GTA V trailers..

 

It's easy buddy, go to: http://www.rockstargames.com/videos

 

And click in the + button.

 

[Tez2]

PS3 , PS4 , PCROS .

This seems to be platforms directories names for prod.cloud

They already added a new directory for PS4 : http://prod.cloud.rockstargames.com/titles/gta5/ps4/

For PC it would be http://prod.cloud.rockstargames.com/titles/gta5/pcros/ ?

[Andreas]

I have splitted the Denuvo DRM discussion into a new thread as can be seen here, in case anyone wonders why their posts are gone. Now, let's get this back on track, shall we?

Edited November 6, 2014 by Andreas