Good looking cars from the '90s

[Killerdude]

I've never understood this, Almost every single Motor vehicle produced in the 90's was a round, blobbish nightmare, It's like every major company had a stroke and created some stupid ugly cars.

 

To illustrate this, I will post a Camaro From every Generation, You'll be able to see when GM super f*cked up.

 

 

 

67-69:

Quite possibly the sexiest of them all.

 

70-81:

 

82-92:

Not as nice as the previous Generations, But still incredibly sexy.

 

93-02

And here we have the Generation of Camaro we all try to block out and Forget, Safe to say, I wasn't sad knowing they discontinued the Camaro after this.

 

 

 

 

Why are cars from this Era so damn ugly?

Not to say they all are, But a large majority are.

Edited August 28, 2014 by epoxi

[sivispacem]

Wow, one whole example.

[Killerdude]

Wow, one whole example.

Would you like more?

I didn't want to flood the Thread too badly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 3, 2014 by Killerdude8

[sivispacem]

Right, now compare all of those that weren't American dross to their eighties variant.

[Killerdude]

The Maxima and the Jetta are Quite alright, But I can't say the same for the Civic..

[uzer]

Counter argument:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And that's without going into supercars of the time period.

[gtamann123]

Cars in the 90s were either ugly or magnificent. Almost no middle ground at all in my opinion.

[SouthLand]

I think they stopped building cars in 2000-2002 and now they build washing machine with wheels and call them "cars"

[sivispacem]

I'd argued there's easily as much utter utilitarian dross from the 90s as there is today. It's kind of grass-is-always-greener IMO.

[SouthLand]

I'd argued there's easily as much utter utilitarian dross from the 90s as there is today. It's kind of grass-is-always-greener IMO.

 

These cars won't make a comeback.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now all they do is technology kinder eggs that handle like sh*t

[sivispacem]

The 206 was one of the worst modern cars ever built. Utterly insipid in every form, up to and including the GTi 180. Far worse handling than just about any modern hatch; so flawed in am engineering sense that several models were positively dangerous to own, horrible inside, dull outside, horrendously unreliable, boring engines even in GTi form. Aside from the Focus and arguably the Leon it's contemporaries were pretty poor too; the Mk4 Golf fat, slow and rubbish to drive. The Mercedes A-Class nice to be in but hateful to own. The Megane also borderline dangerous in its lack of reliability. Vauxhall Astra duller than dishwater. Honda Civic well built but utterly uninspired except in Type R form. Now, the earlier 306 was a fantasic thing, the last decent car Peugeot made.

 

The Saxo was dross other than in VTR/VTS form and even then was hardly earth shattering. A nice steer but that's it- abysmal brakes, rubbish agricultural engines especially in 8v form, made out of Easter egg packaging and tin foil and about as nice to sit in as the chemical toilets at a music festival.

 

Exactly what are you trying to compare them with? The modern contemporary of the Saxo is probably something like the DS3 or Fiat 500, both of which are pretty good to drive. The current Fiesta is absolutely brilliant; especially in ST form. Peugeot are still in the toilet but they've been there since the early 90s so that's hardly surprising. Mid-sized hatches like the Focus and current Golf Leon are very good to drive; even the Korean stuff is pretty chuckable these days.

[RoadRunner71]

 

Wow, one whole example.

Would you like more?

I didn't want to flood the Thread too badly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the 1990's Mercury Cougar and some of Chrysler/Eagle cloud cars as well, with their aerodynamic designs In return, I find many of the current vehicles too generic and boring, with one of the maximum exponents the next gen of the Hyundai Genesis.

Edited June 4, 2014 by RoadRunner71

[Abel.]

Sivis: I had the displeasure of having formative driving experience in a 206. Horrible, unreliable car. I pray I will drive something decent in the future.

[sivispacem]

I learned in one too. Well, some of my learning was done in one as I changed instructors. The other instructor had a K11 Micra 1.3 which was a better car in every imaginable way. And that's saying something.

[epoxi]

@Killerdude8: You posted just about the worst topic you could considering this is a forum full of '90s kids.

 

Some more counters:

It may be bland, it may get abused, but I still think the '92 Civic is a very good-looking car.

5 image max

 

[GunWrath]

What?

 

GMC Syclone

BMW M5

SVT Cobra

Mazda RX7

Corvette ZR-1

 

Hell, I think in 90 or 91 the Lamborghini Diablo was introduced. Don't even get me started on trucks during the 90's, some were beautiful and performance was nice. Ford F-150 Lightning, Tahoe's.. yada yada yada.. I enjoy 90's cars, I just think most people are attached to that 60's - 70's sport/muscle car look or today's new designs and don't put a lot of effort into the 90's models.

 

After the 70's and 80's, designers had to come back with a more 'attractive' look to attract their consumers again, thus you see a boom in the curves and all. But not ALL cars of the 90's were good lookin' but a good bit were.

[Killerdude]

@Killerdude8: You posted just about the worst topic you could considering this is a forum full of '90s kids.

Funny, I AM a 90's kid, Yet I cannot stand most of anything from that decade, The Cars especially.

[Sean O'God]

I'm a 2000's kid, but I was born in the 90's. I'm pulling out the big guns. (other than the ones that were already used above)

I understand this is all down to taste, and that every era has its ups and downs. But surely you don't believe 100% of the cars from the 90's are ugly? Can you find at least one you like the look of?

Edited June 5, 2014 by Inbred Walrus

[Killerdude]

Not all, But a very large amount, To name a Few, The Supra, Impreza, Lancer, Cutlass and Tahoe, I know there are more, But I can't be arsed to remember them all.

[sivispacem]

Impreza

 

 

 

Lancer

 

Naa.

[SouthLand]

The 206 was one of the worst modern cars ever built. Utterly insipid in every form, up to and including the GTi 180. Far worse handling than just about any modern hatch; so flawed in am engineering sense that several models were positively dangerous to own, horrible inside, dull outside, horrendously unreliable, boring engines even in GTi form. Aside from the Focus and arguably the Leon it's contemporaries were pretty poor too; the Mk4 Golf fat, slow and rubbish to drive. The Mercedes A-Class nice to be in but hateful to own. The Megane also borderline dangerous in its lack of reliability. Vauxhall Astra duller than dishwater. Honda Civic well built but utterly uninspired except in Type R form. Now, the earlier 306 was a fantasic thing, the last decent car Peugeot made.

 

The Saxo was dross other than in VTR/VTS form and even then was hardly earth shattering. A nice steer but that's it- abysmal brakes, rubbish agricultural engines especially in 8v form, made out of Easter egg packaging and tin foil and about as nice to sit in as the chemical toilets at a music festival.

 

Exactly what are you trying to compare them with? The modern contemporary of the Saxo is probably something like the DS3 or Fiat 500, both of which are pretty good to drive. The current Fiesta is absolutely brilliant; especially in ST form. Peugeot are still in the toilet but they've been there since the early 90s so that's hardly surprising. Mid-sized hatches like the Focus and current Golf Leon are very good to drive; even the Korean stuff is pretty chuckable these days.

 

 

I have driven many Peugeot 206 that have been modified by their owners for rally purposes and they handle like a Rottweiler when they haven't eat in days. It's just a nice car to have fun in curvy roads buy you MUST know how to drive or you are going to crash in the first turn.

[sivispacem]

I've driven actual 206 Super-1600 rally cars. They run entirely custom suspension and the rear replaces the trailing arms with proper independent rear suspension. Now they handle but given they were £80k a pop at release that isn't surprising.

 

For one, you can't compare a modified car to a standard one. With the right modifications you can turn just about anything into a brilliant handling car but that's not the point, the 206 was sh*t in standard form and that's what we're discussing here.

 

And forgive my scepticism, but I still don't have a great deal of faith in the opinions on modifying of an individual who genuinely believes that a generic stage 1 map on a 150bhp K03s turbo equipped small port 1.8T with cast internals and no other modifications will gain an 80% increase in power.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Cars in the 90s were either ugly or magnificent. Almost no middle ground at all in my opinion.

 

That's how I've always felt.

[epoxi]

I have to say I am a huge fan of the steroided-up styling on Japanese '90s cars (i.e. Lancer, Impreza, Mitsu GTO, NSX, Supra, 350Z all listed above).

 

It's a shame it doesn't fit as well with the shape of today's cars.

Edited June 5, 2014 by epoxi

[S99]

 

@OP Would post more to prove you wrong but I cant be bothered, Besides all the cars OP posted are American and that just proves 'all Americans have bad taste when it comes to designing cars does it?' No. Didn't think so. (What you posted is quite stereotypical)

Edited June 5, 2014 by BAF-stueycow

[sivispacem]

Another:

 

 

Okay so only released in late 1999 but still...

[Killerdude]

*snip*

 

@OP Would post more to prove you wrong but I cant be bothered, Besides all the cars OP posted are American and that just proves 'all Americans have bad taste when it comes to designing cars does it?' No. Didn't think so. (What you posted is quite stereotypical)

Well, I did grow up in Canada, Most cars on the Road are American Made, But Yes, In the 90's Most American Car manufacturers had a serious lapse in Judgement and Created some Terrifyingly Ugly Cars.

 

German Cars were tolerable, They didn't really f*ck up in the 90's.

Japanese cars have always looked terrible, Though with a few models, Supra, Impreza, Lancer, Skyline and others, They got it right made some of the sexiest cars in that Decade.

 

But I suppose it comes down to Region and Taste, Growing up all I saw were cars that were very difficult to look at for Extended periods of Time.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

*snip*

 

@OP Would post more to prove you wrong but I cant be bothered, Besides all the cars OP posted are American and that just proves 'all Americans have bad taste when it comes to designing cars does it?' No. Didn't think so. (What you posted is quite stereotypical)

Well, I did grow up in Canada, Most cars on the Road are American Made, But Yes, In the 90's Most American Car manufacturers had a serious lapse in Judgement and Created some Terrifyingly Ugly Cars.

 

German Cars were tolerable, They didn't really f*ck up in the 90's.

Japanese cars have always looked terrible, Though with a few models, Supra, Impreza, Lancer, Skyline and others, They got it right made some of the sexiest cars in that Decade.

 

But I suppose it comes down to Region and Taste, Growing up all I saw were cars that were very difficult to look at for Extended periods of Time.

 

I personally happen to like a lot of 90's Japanese cars. For instance, the 90's Camera interested me for some odd reason.

[SouthLand]

I've driven actual 206 Super-1600 rally cars. They run entirely custom suspension and the rear replaces the trailing arms with proper independent rear suspension. Now they handle but given they were £80k a pop at release that isn't surprising.

 

For one, you can't compare a modified car to a standard one. With the right modifications you can turn just about anything into a brilliant handling car but that's not the point, the 206 was sh*t in standard form and that's what we're discussing here.

 

And forgive my scepticism, but I still don't have a great deal of faith in the opinions on modifying of an individual who genuinely believes that a generic stage 1 map on a 150bhp K03s turbo equipped small port 1.8T with cast internals and no other modifications will gain an 80% increase in power.

 

Revo España

Tel. (+34)934087841

 

Ask for Oscar and ask him for his wife's Seat Ibiza that she sold a few years (to me). Ask him how much HP does the car have.

[sivispacem]

I'm not calling Revo's Spanish office to verify a power claim that's 50% larger than all their English language literature and that I can't find reference anywhere in open sources. 270bhp on a K03s 1.8T is physically impossible, as just about any VAG tuner or forum will tell you. Badger Bill is regarded as the best 1.8T tuner in the world, runs numerous race vehicles and has built engines for Time Attack, Formula Palmer and rally, and his stage 2 K03s Ibiza made 233bhp on 102 octane race fuel. That's with a turbo back + 3" downpipe, FMIC, custom intake, Forge diverter and uprated wastegate. His custom remap is based on a Revo stage 2 baseline and despite having far more supporting mods than yours and being one step up in terms of level/stage yet makes 40hp less than your claimed output on race fuel.Or drop Nikki at R-Tech an email (http://www.r-techpower.co.uk) who I believe has the highest recorded power output ever achieved on a K03 turbocharged 1.8T of any kind and explain to him how his record is no longer valid despite being on a fully forged engine with a huge number of accompanying mods because someone linked to Revo Spain told you that the car he sold you with a stage 1 map was putting out 270 despite that being optimistic for a much larger K04.

 

Check the following forum threads:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/238276-what-is-the-safest-maximum-power-a-k03s-can-handle/

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149302

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/130430-k03-max-power

http://www.velocidadmaxima.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123507

 

I'm not going to get into this any further than that, aside from saying that you made the claim, you prove it, and given Revo are notorious for inflating their power figures that's really got to be from an independent dyno.