Future map additions

[Trentallica]

 

Bad ass. Exactly what GTA needs.

 

 

 

 

 

It wouldn't necessary be that way tho, If the bridges were also added in SP it could easily be canon? However they would only be accessible later on in the game... :-) Memories of San Andreas

 

It is also possible that both Online and V are entirely separate, as Rockstargames themselves once stated. They are in the same map, for now, share some of the same characters, but the events from Online haven't happened in V and vice versa. It is also possible that Rockstargames will indeed make Online after the events of V. This way they could add Franklin, Michael and others as contacts. Would make for some interesting missions in my opinion.

It could work, at least for awhile. The LC map addition, for example could include an easter egg involving the fate of Niko Bellic, which could explain why Lester knows of "the East European in Liberty City" that was making waves, until he "went dark"

 

Ultimately, it would work better if they did advance the timeline. If not with heists, than at least with the story mode DLC that is supposed to come out sometime. That DLC could (and probably would) show us which ending is canon, thus possibly allowing Franklin and Micheal to be mission contacts. Every HD era game has taken place in the current time with the exception of GTA:O, which takes place roughly 6 months in the past. Once GTA:O reaches the point where it will need to interact with the next GTA installment, it would create a continuity gap, if they don't bring GTA:O into the present at some time...

 

speaking of possible mission contacts, It would also be pretty cool if, when LC is released they make Playboy X or Dewayne a mission contact, thus confirming which decision was canon in IV. You could have Tony Prince as a contact in San Fierro (which is where I assume he went after the events of TBoGT), and making the homeless guy (if anyone even knows who I'm talking about) a contact in Vice City...

 

Yeah it would be really awesome. :-) I agree that Online should advance in time somewhere in the near future, as we interact with the world, also leaving our traces, which no one knows about in the Single Player story. It would make more sense if they made the Online version AFTER the single player in my opinion. would fix a lot of things. :-)

 

I'll PM you some information sometime tomorrow, I live in a city right against Phoenix(Glendale).

I have updated the map;

I added Glendale in Phoenix, and changed the location of the airport. I also added two other things, which I hope you can recognize!

I also added a lot more desert surrounding Phoenix and I added some "incorporated parts" which are on the edge of the city.

 

 

 

EDIT: I also changed Las Venturas a little bit to make it more like it's real counterpart Las Vegas :-)

 

I love this map, I couldn't imagine how long it would take to circumnavigate.

[ivarblaauw]

 

Bad ass. Exactly what GTA needs.

I have updated the map;

I added Glendale in Phoenix, and changed the location of the airport. I also added two other things, which I hope you can recognize!

I also added a lot more desert surrounding Phoenix and I added some "incorporated parts" which are on the edge of the city.

 

 

 

EDIT: I also changed Las Venturas a little bit to make it more like it's real counterpart Las Vegas :-)

 

I love this map, I couldn't imagine how long it would take to circumnavigate.

 

It would take about 45 minutes to drive around the map with a super car. However there would be a lot of places to explore. So yeah; it would take a ride; however; the map would still be small compared to Just Cause 2 or even tiny compared to The Crew. The crew it can take up to 4 hours to drive around the map, on high speeds :-/

 

 

also thanks to ANAL_PLUNDERING in a personal conversation with me:

• Judging by the overall terrain along the coast of San Andreas, it would be assumed that the east coast would have consisted of mostly desert and eventually Las Venturas (had water not been used as a free-roam natural barrier). Part of this theory is supported by how the west coast consists almost entirely of natural beaches; whereas the east coast consists entirely of ridges and rock formations. To further back this theory, it is possible that the east coast would also serve as part of a river as the wreckage of a river steamboat can be found in the southeast section of the state as well as Lester mentioning in The Paleto Score that the body of water north of Paleto Bay is actually a river.

I deleted his comments round this because that is personal :-) But he showed me this;

link is here:

http://gta.wikia.com/San_Andreas_(HD_Universe)

 

we know that they have been wrong before; So I want to ask if someone can help to see if this is true or not? Does Lester mention this? I don't know. SO HELP WANTED!

Edited January 20, 2015 by ivarblaauw

[Trentallica]

The only real criticism I have with the map is you say you added aspects of Phoenix into the map. I kinda feel that's unessisary. I live in Vegas and there are plenty of towns in our area, also Phoenix is like six times as large as Vegas.

[StarFireFly]

I belive a map dlc is possible check this out,

Its been done before this is MNC map stock

and this is MNC with dlc

 

The first Dlc map, would be Las Venturas, then LC and SF. But Las Venturas wont be in Sanandreas, it'll be in its own state. I'll make up a name just to do it teehee, Las Venturas, Karoda

Edited January 21, 2015 by jessicaFly

[southernsontn]

 

I deleted his comments round this because that is personal :-) But he showed me this;

link is here:

http://gta.wikia.com/San_Andreas_(HD_Universe)

 

we know that they have been wrong before; So I want to ask if someone can help to see if this is true or not? Does Lester mention this? I don't know. SO HELP WANTED!

 

 

 

Well, I went back and looked at those missions. All I could find i Lester mentioning that "Paleto Bay is.. well a Bay"...

[PaMu1337]

 

Lester tells Franklin he will be waiting by the river.

[Trentallica]

I wish Rockstar would actually tell us if they actually plan to release new map additions.

[Nick930930]

To add to what Jessicafly said, it's still quite possible Rockstar will add additional landmass to the game.

 

If you've played Burnout Paradise, there was a hefty DLC that added an entirely new island that featured huge jumps and fun baja cars to the game. It was connected to the original island via a large bridge that originally wasn't even visible before.

 

 

 

I feel as though GTAV is too large for a map expansion to simply be added, but it's likely there will be a seperate loading screen and an opportunity to choose where you would like to play.

[burger_mike]

 

Lester tells Franklin he will be waiting by the river.

 

Oh sh*t, so I guess R* missed that. If they did want to cover it up, that totally flew over my head when playing.

[Shimo815]

I dont know if you already know about this, but there's a sunken

in the east coast. Usually, steamboats are only used on rivers. My hopes are so high... Edited January 21, 2015 by Shimo815

[burger_mike]

I dont know if you already know about this, but there's a sunken

in the east coast. Usually, steamboats are only used on rivers. My hopes are so high...

We know, I told Ivar earlier, he posted it above.

[US Marshal1911]

When I did all those dives to find the weapons and suitcases, I thought the steamboat was the coolest dive. I say in about another year and a half will pass and we'll get a map expansion.

[southernsontn]

Well damn, ow did I miss that?

 

 

 

Lester tells Franklin he will be waiting by the river.

[Simply Logic]

Never.

ever. R* nees to make a new gta for next gen with more than twice as much sh*t, better/more controls like shimmying+crouching, more guns+weapons+vehicles and a humongous map with atleast 90^% building accessability that includes every glass window breakable+enterable.

[burger_mike]

 

Never.

ever. R* nees to make a new gta for next gen with more than twice as much sh*t, better/more controls like shimmying+crouching, more guns+weapons+vehicles and a humongous map with atleast 90^% building accessability that includes every glass window breakable+enterable.

 

Nothing says that those things can't be added in this game, and nothing says that we won't see another GTA, we are talking 1-2 years or so here, not 2+ years where new GTA's should come out.

 

Let's not start another fight.

Edited January 22, 2015 by ANAL_PLUNDERING

[yjh87344]

I really hope they add Las Venturas someday. It'd be nice to gamble with your hard earned money

[Shimo815]

We can't ignore the lighthouse located northeast of the map. How can there be a river if there's a lighthouse?

Edited January 22, 2015 by Shimo815

[Trentallica]

We can't ignore the lighthouse located northeast of the map. How can there be a river if there's a lighthouse?

You are right having a lighthouse on a river doesn't make sense. It's possible any new map additions will be in self contained servers.

[Richard Power Colt]

 

We can't ignore the lighthouse located northeast of the map. How can there be a river if there's a lighthouse?

You are right having a lighthouse on a river doesn't make sense. It's possible any new map additions will be in self contained servers.

 

They probably will be.

[DaWiesel]

So does anyone has a summary of everything we know or hints to how the rest of San Andreas could look like? I remember that Ivarblaauw had made a list?

[Trentallica]

I think everything is pure speculation.

[ana lill]

 

We can't ignore the lighthouse located northeast of the map. How can there be a river if there's a lighthouse?

 

You are right having a lighthouse on a river doesn't make sense. It's possible any new map additions will be in self contained servers.

The lighthouse does not mean that it cant be a river. Just check out the light house by the tappan zee bridge over hudson river. With a bit (or a lot perhaps) of imagination it even resembles the gta lighthouse!!

[dyz]

Maybe the body of water near the lighthouse is large

[StarFireFly]

This is a map I made , teehee i kind of took ivarblaauw map and remodeled it to what i think the dlc map will look like.

 

 

I didn't do LV too much, didn't really feel like......

[burger_mike]

This is a map I made , teehee i kind of took ivarblaauw map and remodeled it to what i think the dlc map will look like.

 

 

I didn't do LV too much, didn't really feel like......

Do you have a bigger version?

[ivarblaauw]

This is a map I made , teehee i kind of took ivarblaauw map and remodeled it to what i think the dlc map will look like.

 

 

I didn't do LV too much, didn't really feel like......

First of all; I want to tell you I am happy that you are really active and try to contribute to the thread :-)

 

secondly: We have found information which I am going to put in the spoiler tags below. Please take those in consideration :-) We have found information which places Eastern San Andreas, east of the current map.

 

I have also answered your question about Phoenix (Which I forgot to answer a few days ago) in the last part of the summary. :-)

 

 

THE SUMMARY

 

 

Because of the flight this topic took, I will RE post it here. I updated it with more sources and more information (about Northern San Andreas, Red County and Montgomery). I tried to split the rumors from the facts AND to add pictures and sources were possible.

 

This post features all POSSIBLE information or evidence about future map additions. It is possible, but we can't know for sure the map will come, unless the information is released by Rockstar themselves.

 

This post features EVERYTHING we have found till now. It's a long read so be ready for impact. There is no excuse for the phrase: TL'DR. xD I will find and murder you if you say this xD

First I wanna state that I call these Add On's and not Downloadable Content. I do this, because it is more likely to be advertised as this than just a DLC.

This also means that the price will go up. You get more, you have to pay more. Simple as that.

This is also why GTA VI is a long way from here. It is also a possibility that V is the last numbered GTA for a long time.

 

As most of you now know, Rockstar uses the RAGE, Rockstar Advanced Game Engine, in their games. Most of us thought Grand Theft Auto V was made for Last Generation Consoles only. Now GTA V has been announced for Current Generation consoles, it is highly likely that the Engine was made ready for these new systems.

Now the Engine has been done and now they have 16 times MORE power in any way, Rockstar can use this engine to create a magnificent and gigantic world. This brings me on the point what this is all about.

 

I myself have put countless of hours in researching of information about Northern San Andreas and other possible map add ons. Along with a couple of other researchers we have found out quite a lot.

 

All the information you can find here below.

This said, click the spoilers to see information about the Add On. All has been found and can be backed up with facts, unless stated different.

 

First some quotes from Rockstar themselves, to explain why Map add ons are likely and widely possible:

 

Every part of Grand Theft Auto Online has been designed with expansion in mind. A dream of ours is to create an entire Grand Theft Auto world that consists of everything we've done or are going to do then let the player freely move between them. The launch of Grand Theft Auto Online is a beginning for us; it gets us a little closer to being able to make that happen. source

 

Well, one thing we've toyed with - and we've talked about this before, so it isn't a spoiler - is (the ambition) to grow this world until it's the world. We're just going to add on new things to it, new places all the time. We've set this up so there are no limitations. The only limitation is the size of the disc and how much memory we've got. We could, if we wanted, simulate the entire world, different countries, whatever. Whether we do that or not... But we've got a bunch of old stuff that we're toying with using. source

Either way, the fact is that Rockstar have said that this has been their goal ever since the launch of GTA 3. From a business standpoint, it makes sense to continue to monetize the franchise as much as possible. The Cash cards which were released alongside Grand Theft Auto Online are a big hit and brings tens of millions of dollars in every month.

 

But why would Rockstar release no new map with each new Grand Theft Auto title? Well first of all Rockstar probably doesnt want to release any numbered GTAs in the near future. This because of license problems with music etc. As long as they let the game be called GTA V: {put in name of city} they can probably use all the previous music in the game.

 

They have learned from their mistakes of GTA IV and EFLC, which were a real pain for Rockstar because some songs needed to be relicensed.

A new map, including city and countryside would sell millions of copies, thus making it worth the risk, if they did not remade their contracts with music companies, which I am pretty sure they did.

 

The add ons for now:

- State of San Andreas Add On

 

 

- Northern San Andreas

Northern San Andreas is most likely the next installment of a Map.

It is hinted quite a lot within the game itsself and NPC's act like Northern San Andreas is already there.

San fierro's big bridge leads over the bay. The bay probably has a Y form on its side.

Northern San Andreas is attached with a bridge to Southern San Andreas in the south east/mid.

Here is a rough sketch I made from the information:

 

- As soon as you fly into Northern San Andreas Airspace, you will be killed after 30 seconds out of the coast, while to the west and north you can fly at least 4x longer.

- San Fierro is mentioned, it is a city in Northern San Andreas, probably at the west coast of Northern San Andreas.

San Fierro is based on San Francisco along with the Golden Gate bridge and more.

- Billboards featuring San Fierro:

 

- You can see the coast and some mountains of Northern San Andreas in a post card of Paleto Bay. This is official Artwork of Rockstargames. This post card is also in the game as a billboard.

 

Where the shot is taken:

 

This postcard shows a part of Northern San Andreas, which is also a billboard in the game:

 

 

this seems more logical after analyses and new evidence:

 

 

- The place where the bridge is most likely to be featured, has no collectibles or items (like ufo's, shipwrecks etc.) just a pale rock which can easily be used as a beam.

- The game acts like Northern San Andreas is already there. However, we can't go there.

- Rockstar confirmed that they will add new places to GTA Online/V.

- The Angels of Death are a Motorcycle Club which started in San Fierro. They are the rivals of the LOST MC.

- A lot of characters in the HD universe are native from San Fierro, Northern San Andreas.

- Sacramento is in fact, the capitol for real life California, so I'm not surprised if it's on Rockstar's bucket list. There are quite a lot of rumors that GTA V will eventually feature San Andreass state capitol. The Capitol would most likely be based on Sacramento. But these are RUMORS

- Red County is mentioned in GTA IV. Also Montgomery is mentioned. This means that both this town as Red County exist in the game. We don't know if it is Northern San Andreas or another part of San Andreas. Evidence:

 

EDIT:

- The recent DLC: I am not a Hipster dlc features a lot of new cars + possible roof options. One of these options is skis. There is no snow to be found which leads to the conclusion that a snow area COULD be featured in V in the future. Will Northern San Andreas feature this? We dont know, but the Real state of California has ski resorts in the North east.

- Geologically Northern San Andreas should feature Snowy mountain peaks in the north east part of the map.

TAKEN from GTA.WIKIA: (not the best source, but this is all true though, search it on the other wikias or see for yourself)

 

Extra info, should be treated as rumors for now:

- A big forest is East of San Fierro, This is ALSO mentioned in a radio comment (heard from another gtaforums member).

- A small city is on the other side of the San Fierro Bridge (north).

- A medium city is on the other side of the San Fierro Bay (east), this is most likely incorperated in San Fierro, based on Oakland. Most likely connected with a bridge over the bay

- POSSIBLY a medium city is south of the San Fierro Bay, based on San Jose. This is most likely a city incorperated in San Fierro.

- This means that San Fierro Bay is surrounded by city everywhere except South East and North East.

- A town based of Santa Barbara south west of San Fierro. This town would be of similar size as Paleto Bay.

 

- Rumors state another city based on Sacramento in the North East of the map. How Rockstar would implement this is unknown.

 

- Northern San Andreas mainly features 3 enviroments:

- farmlands (grapeseed like) with small towns (similar to Harmony and Grapeseed)

- Pineforests (paleto forest, but bigger and thicker

- colder mountains (possibly snow) (possibly with a town or the capitol of San Andreas), a lake in the mountains is also a possibility.

References in GTA IV

·

· Many characters in the LCPD Database, such as Jeremy St. Ives, Eddie Low and Lola Del Rio were born in San Fierro.

· Chris Cummings, the presumed winner of Venturas Poker Challenge was also born in San Fierro.

· Bernie Crane says he will move to San Fierro with his boyfriend Bryce Dawkins, as he claims that they treat homosexuals better there.

· The billionaire Paulo family own a large home in Calton Heights, San Fierro, indicating that this district exists in the HD Universe.

· On Blogsnobs.org, Inyapuper.blogsnobs.org is the blog of a 19-year old high schooler from San Fierro.

· On Liesdamnlies.net, the users Steve, Loch Ness, Mary and Bildeberg are all from San Fierro.

· One of the Angels of Death NPCs also mentions that last time he was in San Fierro, he almost came back in a box.

References in The Lost and Damned

·

· The Angels of Death were founded in San Fierro. During gang wars between The Lost MC and the Angels of Death, Johnny will sometimes yell, "Go back to San Fierro!"

· Many characters, such as Lester Arnold, were born in San Fierro.

References in The Ballad of Gay Tony

 

The Rotterdam Tower's ground level lobby in The Ballad of Gay Tony.

·

· San Fierro is engraved on the wall of the ground floor of the Rotterdam Tower, along with Vice City, Los Santos, Las Venturas and Liberty City.

· Like Bernie Crane, Gay Tony talks about moving to San Fierro because homosexuals are treated better there. (Reference to San Fransisco Gay Culture)

References in GTA V

·

· Fabien LaRouche lived in San Fierro until 1999 (having moved there from France) before moving to Los Santos, because he had many charges in San Fierro.

· Supermodel Kerry McIntosh, who appears in the Vinewood Souvenirs - Kerry side mission (as well as a Club Management mission in the Ballad of Gay Tony) was born in San Fierro.

Former Residents

·

· Lester Arnold

· Chris Cummings

· Lola Del Rio

· Cherise McCormic

· Kerry McIntosh

· Fabien LaRouche (until 1999)

· Eddie Low

· Jeremy St. Ives

 

NEW FOUND COUNTY:

 

INTERSTATE 1:

As you can see, Interstate 1 features multiple routes (including Route 13 (Senora Freeway) and partially Route 1 (Great Ocean Highway)). The Interstate 1 features also the continuation of Senora Freeway, which is called Senora Way. This is the road which is east of Ron Alternates Wind Farm. However, this is the Interstate 1 not Route 68.

 

There are two road signs which clearly state (at the end/beginning of Route 68) that this is the start of Senora Way.

 

EDIT:

I found out that the names can be very buggy east of Ron Alternates Wind Farm. It sometimes said Palomino Fwy, Route 68 or Senora Fwy.

However this part is the Senora Way and is part of Interstate 1.

 

The Senora Freeway exists from 2 interstate routes.

Interstate 1 and a small portion of Interstate 4.

 

Funny Fact #1:

There is a road sign which speaks of the Sanora Fwy, this is at the start/end of Senora Way and start/end of Senora Fwy. (this is probably a typo, but can also be the Beta name of Senora? However, it is clear that this is meant to be the Senora Fwy.)

Funny Fact #2:

The wooden pole signs in the Grand Senora Desert call the Senora Desert the SENOEA Desert. (99% sure that this is a typo as the E and R are next to each other on QWERTY keyboards)

Funny Fact #3:

The Chiliad View sign speaks of "The Grande Senora Desert". (typo or just small reference to spanish?)

 

 

Evidence:

 

 

 

(personal thoughts: Blaine cty? already far into Blaine County, so might this be Blaine City?! probably not though but one can dream)

 

(Senora Way, not Route 68)

 

The right sign speaks of Palomino Highlands, which are in the game and to reach this, you need to take the next exit right. The same for the NOOSE Headquarters (S A State Office). However the right sign speaks of North Palomino, which isn't in the game. The Palomino Highlands end after the NOOSE Headquarters. There is no North Palomino in the game as the Palomino Highlands are surrounded by the Tataviam Mountains and the Pacific Ocean.

 

It speaks of North Palomino; which is a location which isn't in the game.

 

This picture is made just for the exit of Sandy Shores/State Prison. There is a sign which has nothing on it?!

 

on the other side of the highway is this:

 

This means it isn't a misprint!

 

route 68 to San Andreas? it probably spans towards Eastern San Andreas as part of the Interstate 1.

 

 

Route 68 is not Route 66. The long road across multiple states.

Grand Theft Auto V features Route 68. This is not a reference to Route 66, but Route 86, which is an east to west interstate highway.

​ROUTE 69:

Knowing Rockstar, Route 66 will probably be called Route 69, as a reference to Bone County... Which was a reference of Boner, which I don't have to explain further I think. Route 69 logo was also on the shirts of some Angels of Death in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned.

 

 

- Eastern San Andreas Add On

Las Venturas, a city based on Las Vegas, Nevada. In Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, Las Venturas was a city within that state and the country side has influences of Nevada and Arizona and Utah. It still could be in the HD universe, however, it has never been mentioned that it is.

We do know that Las Venturas is a city within the HD universe, because the city itsself has been mentioned quite a lot in IV and V.

If it is within the State of San Andreas we will probably see it attached with bridges to the current map. Otherwise the same as Yankton. A no fly zone at the border of the map and you get there with a commercial airplane.

We do know that Las Venturas is highly anticipated for an Add On because both for Single Player as Online it would be a very popular place. It would be a highly anticipated add on which would sell a lot of copies. In GTA V, Eastern San Andreas features Las Venturas and it's most iconic countryside. Including the Salt Flats (Death Valley), Grand Canyon, Monument Valley and the iconic Route 66, which ingame is called Route 69. (according to the Angels of Death in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned)

 

In Grand theft Auto San Andreas, Bone County it was not an accurate rendition of Nevada. In featured influences of the Grand Canyon (Arizona), Route 66 (Arizona), Las Vegas (Nevada), Monument Valley (Utah/Arizona/New Mexico/Colorado) and the Death Valley (California/Nevada).

- In Grand theft Auto V: Eastern San Andreas we will see the same rendition with influences of multiple states. This because otherwise the player becomes bored to death by an endless desert. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas fixed this, by using the best parts from multiple states.

 

There have been found references from the store desk where you see the las venturas lottery

 

Red dead Redemption was entirely made in the RAGE. This means that all textures, models and animals can easily be used in GTA V Add on. Because Las Venturas and its surrounding countryside have a similar environment as RDR had, it is highly likely that Rockstar will use a lot of textures and models from RDR. They already did that with cactuses, trees and more.

http://i.imgur.com/jgq9mWE.png

 

Browne Canyon; it is a movie company in GTA V but with a whole new landscape (not Red Dead Redemption, as we found out). It is likely close to Las Venturas.

here is the picture:

http://rghost.ru/57776027/image.png

http://rghost.ru/57776024/image.png

 

An audiofile featuring Las Venturas:

This audiofile kinda confirms Las Venturas is still in San Andreas. It states that they are going to make San Andreas big, which implies that Las Venturas is San Andreas!

 

Rumored:

A small city based on Carson City/Reno

A city based on San Diego is speculated for a long time. However NO evidence is found, except for the Aircraft Carrier as San Diego has a Navy military base.

This way San Andreas features Forests, Farmlands, Snowy mountains and the 3 main cities (each consists from multiple cities), three to four small cities (Sacramento/Stockton, San Diego (St. Leamon) Carson City/Reno and possibly a city based on Fresno) and quite a few small towns.

 

 

 

 

- Liberty City Add On

 

 

 

If we see Liberty City, which is quite a big possibility, it will most likely not be the Liberty City you remember.

First of all, Liberty City in IV consisted from multiple cities merged together. It also featured two States; Liberty State, in which Liberty City lays, and Alderney State, which contains Alderney City. This is city is merged with Liberty City.

 

Second of all: Liberty State OR Alderney State has country side. Think about farms etc. Also Carcer City is featured in one of the states and it is only a few miles from Liberty City.

If we will see a Liberty City Add On, which is highly likely, we probably see an extended Liberty City as featured in the BETA of IV. This means: Liberty City along with the Carraways and Country side.

However this is just rumor.

 

At this point, there is not a lot of information about LC featured in V. It is mentioned a LOT, referenced a lot and will be featured in Gta Online in the future.

I know this because in the interview, The Benz said that we will see everything they have done and ever will do. (actual quote is on top of this post) This pretty much confirms we will see Liberty City in Online.

 

http://media.rockstarwatch.net/news/2015839764.jpg

http://www.rockstarwatch.net/news/319/EGM-previews-GTA-IV-and-bag-exclusive-interview-with-Sam-Houser/

 

 

 

- North Yankton Add On

 

 

ah, the infamous North Yankton.

First things first: North Yankton is far from finished. It is an awesome state, yeah it is, but for now it only has one city: Ludendorf, which is more a town.

According to the GTA Lore, a major city should be more to the North, (from which you enter Ludendorf for the second time).

It should also be clear that with an Add On like this, we probably will have new minigames (NOT a fact!), like skying, snowboarding etc.

I don't know how Rockstar will fix the idea of it NOT being an Island... Maybe a NO fly zone, or mountains which you cannot go over etc... I don't know, but I DO know that we will see more of Yankton in the future.

 

North Yankton's part Ludendorff was accesible in GTA Online for quite a while. This was a very popular glitch and it had absolutely NO performance hit on the consoles.

 

 

 

- Vice City Add On

 

 

Vice City, city of the 80s... Drugs, rock n roll and peace?! well yeah. Vice City is a city in Florida, based of Miami. There currently is NO information in the HD universe in which State Vice City is, but we do know that Vice City is mentioned quite a lot. In Episodes from Liberty City it even has it's own radio station, Vice City FM.

 

Personal thoughts:

Whatever GTA Wikia says, it is not the most likely place for the next GTA installment; mainly because it is a small city and it looks quite a lot on Los Santos. It would feel as a GTA V 1.2. It would be bought by old fans, but new fans, who have never played Vice City, would most likely not like the place enough to have an entire game based around a small city.

Also, Vice City must be rebuilt from the ground up.

 

 

 

- Other cities/states?

 

 

Well, there is not a lot known about this. Of course we have North and South Yankton, and in both we only know of one little town called Ludendorff. There also is rumored of a city like Chicago. This city however has NO name and is widely unknown by a lot of people.

The city of Cottonmouth is also featured in the GTA franchise, but it has only been seen in Manhunt 2.

The cities of Red dead redemption could be in the GTA Universe. This is unknown because it has references to GTA lore but also references to real life cities like New York. However Grand Theft Auto V has references of the State of California.

 

It looks like the states of GTA are within the USA, but the other states also exists. So this means that Los Angeles and Los Santos are both different cities in the GTA Lore.

Moscow is also mentioned in the GTA V story line, which is a real city within the Russian Federation.

 

Real locations mentioned in the 3D universe include:

Florida (location of Vice City)

New Hampshire (location of Bullworth, the setting of the "Bully" series)

Alaska (mentioned in the talk show Pressing Issues in VCPR)

Idaho (mentioned by Toni on Flash FM in GTA Vice City)

Indiana (mentioned by Toni on Flash FM in GTA Vice City)

Kansas (mentioned by pedestrians in GTA Vice City)

Nebraska (mentioned by Toni on Flash FM in GTA Vice City)

Alabama (mentioned by Pastor Richards as his place of birth in a fictional town named Mars)

 

Real US locations have also been mentioned in the HD universe:

Arizona (mentioned in The Lost and Damned)

Michigan (mentioned on Leftover-vacations.com)

Ohio (mentioned in The Ballad of Gay Tony)

South Carolina (mentioned on the radio talk show Just or Unjust on WKTT Radio)

Texas (mentioned in GTA IV as Wade Johnson's birthplace)

Utah (mentioned in The Ballad of Gay Tony)

California (mentioned in a commercial for the in-game movie Dragon Brain and in titles of some in-game songs)

 

Paris and Moscow are mentioned in HD universe.

 

Contributors:

On this point, there are too many contributors to write them all down.

I just want to say that it is not just ME who finds all this information. As an example: The screenshot with Montgomery/Red County came from The7thOne, while the creator of this thread, TEENWULF, personally helped me with finding information about Northern San Andreas. I also used information from funmw2 and his found codes from the GTA V BETA HUNT thread and Southernsontn showed me the info about the Carraways of Liberty City. EZza2647, Shimo815, Zidnex and Guntermali helped me out with information in general .

I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. The ones who contributed know who they are and a message to them:

Thank You

 

 

I think I have made quite a big recap of all previous found content and I stated which are known facts and which are rumors. Enjoy your read!

 

 

 

Here is the map based on the information we found.

 

Disclaimer:

- A city based on San Diego is added in the map. While this is slightly hinted (by the use of the aircraft carrier and some other small hints), this city is NOT confirmed and should be treated as a fan part.

- A city based on Phoenix is added in the map. While this isn’t hinted ingame. It is a much requested city in the thread. However; it would make sense, as there should be some space between the desert and sea. Also it would make sense to add the city there. Why? Because now people have a reason to drive there. Gameplay wise it would be a smart move.

- I added a town based on Salt Lake City. While Reno/Carson City is hinted in the game; Salt Lake City is not. However it would be the last iconic city to add from that region in the game.

By implementing the upper three, Rockstar would have added all iconic places from the region.

 

 

However I am still in doubt about the river. Your map is better on that point, but then they have to alter the current map; which isn't something I see them do. We should do some more research into that. Your map is better on that point because you have made the river. I am going to do some research ingame to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

About the lighthouse and steamboat; it does make sense; as the lighthouse is placed in a big "lake" which basically is still sea and the steamboat is in the Palomino area. We know that North Palomino is not in the game; while it is written on road signs. So North Palomino is on the other side of the bridge :-)

Edited January 23, 2015 by ivarblaauw

[Alvarez]

Vice City addon could include Everglades as surroundings and perhaps, a bit of Cuba.

[PhillBellic]

Vice City addon could include Everglades as surroundings and perhaps, a bit of Cuba.

I like that Idea very much. Could they add Haiti, and the Dominican Republic as well?

[Nerfgoth]

I wish Rockstar would actually tell us if they actually plan to release new map additions.

i would be like heist they say they will add on march 24 if u make a offering to the dark lord yeah u know all that stuff..... so a map dlc well u have to buy R* just to make them say it....

[StarFireFly]

Thank you for the info. And i was thinking we could use cities XXL to make new gta dlc maps.