The Worst Of Rockstar Logic

[kcole4001]

18 hours ago, Bruce Khansey said:

I hate the fact that pretty much EVERYTHING is designed to let you make enough money to stick to the game, but not that much to buy what you like in less than hours and hours of grinding. From cooldown times to overpowered enemies in heists, not to mention long -and slow- ass delivery missions and so on, everything has a catch.

 

Sure, there are plenty of methods to grind and earn decent amount of money, but c'mon, where's the fun when you can't waste a minute because time is money?

There are two sides, but I basically agree.

You don't want to have everything too fast, but the game's 'economy' is broken.

It's the daily fees that get on my nerves more than anything.

You're enjoying something in game then it steals some more of your money so you feel you have to make it back and then some just to keep ahead of it.

Everything is pretty much designed to irritate the player.

[Valdr]

On 4/17/2019 at 5:18 AM, rollschuh2282 said:

GERMAN words inside a RUSSIAN submarine...

 

Just to play devil's advocate, the captain of the sub makes it clear that he is a rogue agent with no government sanction, official or otherwise. It's believable that he may have needed to make repairs and upgrades on the decades-old sub and had to get his components from wherever he could get them. If every panel had German writing I'd say they were probably cutting corners and hoping nobody would look close, but it is kind of a mish-mash of both.

[Bruce Khansey]

17 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

There are two sides, but I basically agree.

You don't want to have everything too fast, but the game's 'economy' is broken.

It's the daily fees that get on my nerves more than anything.

You're enjoying something in game then it steals some more of your money so you feel you have to make it back and then some just to keep ahead of it.

Everything is pretty much designed to irritate the player.

 

Yessss.

 

It's good to actually earn what you want; no pain no gain. But like you said, the game economy is broken.

 

I said it a lot of times in other threads, but it's a huge pity since this game has TONS of contents to play, so basically any kind of player can potentially have at leat a couple of modes to enjoy limitless. Too bad it has become the ultimate grind -or glitch- fest.

 

[LeakyLine]

Blind eye is useless. Half the time, it just negates itself. 

 

Trevor's truck has a space in the plate, why can't I?

 

In singleplayer, if you're not connected to the internet, the phone has an extremely useful checklist option. Connect to the internet, it's replaced with a joblist option that, in my five years of playing GTA on the Xbox One, has never shown anything. Furthermore, why the F*CK do you think I wanna see jobs while playing STORY MODE??

[79'Blazer4x4]

On 4/17/2019 at 3:09 PM, Bruce Khansey said:

I hate the fact that pretty much EVERYTHING is designed to let you make enough money to stick to the game, but not that much to buy what you like in less than hours and hours of grinding. From cooldown times to overpowered enemies in heists, not to mention long -and slow- ass delivery missions and so on, everything has a catch.

 

Sure, there are plenty of methods to grind and earn decent amount of money, but c'mon, where's the fun when you can't waste a minute because time is money?

And on top of that, every time you're not grinding you're losing money because of property charges, paying mechanic/staff, etc.

[MsBrandi]

Why do we have to drive a big ol truck like terrorbyte to operate the drone? It can be spawned through the interaction menu ffs like the bandito

[TNT Goes Boom!]

R* went through the (minimal amount of) effort of adding some random guy that comments on the cars you bring to Simeon's garage (at the terminal) yet we have no idea who the hell he is to this day. The story mode never makes mention of him, so he has to have been completely created just for Online. Also, he doesn't seem to have a character model considering the garage is empty except for a laptop than can be used to browse the internet on (cause why bother?). Hope his voice actor (whose name I don't know since his voice doesn't sound familiar) enjoyed the beer money he got recording a couple of sentences for a few hours many years ago, though.

 

There's also the thing where R* went through the trouble of creating those contacts that text you when the game puts a bounty on you for doing five gang attacks in one session (once again, not much effort but why). There's this article   I found that has a list of all the contacts I'm talking about. Yeah, the Lost had some guy named Al Carter all this time whose function is to send texts (did Trevor kill him at some point?). Meanwhile the Families had some nobody called "The Boss" doing the same thing (gee, I wonder if Franklin or Lamar know about him?). The Professionals also happened to have a nobody using the same nickname doing the exact same thing. The Vagos had a guy named Edgar Carlos who did the same thing, but R* bothered to put him in one of the Lowrider missions (Desperate Times Call For...) as one of the targets you have to kill. Seems like extra effort R* mustered went all for naught, however, as he still appears to text you even after you do the mission. Oh, but they just gave up for the rest of the gangs. Nameless guy who happens to have your phone number telling you the same thing as the other nobodies. They didn't even bother to get Merryweather to do anything.

 

The similarity between those things I mentioned is that they're artifacts from the seventh gen version of the game that R* never bothered to address to this day. Too bad they can't go "scorched earth" on those things and remove them completely.

[IceDree]

11 hours ago, MsBrandi said:

Why do we have to drive a big ol truck like terrorbyte to operate the drone? It can be spawned through the interaction menu ffs like the bandito

That's how they're planning to get you in the next update. #TheJigIsUp

[MsBrandi]

48 minutes ago, IceDree said:

That's how they're planning to get you in the next update. #TheJigIsUp

Like the bandito

[DPRK]

these "Rockstar logic" topics here and elsewhere always made me shake my head cuz that is why they're videogames... videogame logic. no such thing as Rockstar logic. These aren't real life and real life physics simulators. And they can't add everything you and I want or make everything work like you and I think they should work.

 

But I get it.

 

So i will add that I was playing today and realized how funny it is that I can throw grenades, pipe bombs, and flaming molotovs out of my car as if my arm was a grenade launcher in real life considering how far my character can throw em.

Edited April 24, 2019 by DPRK

[wweraw526]

We got people hiking up mountain trails, we see campers on the road driving around aimlessly and not one camp ground is to be found on the map O_O. 

 

How tf do you not have a camp ground area with cabins and tents, but have stuff that has something to do with traveling and hiking.

 

Also I'd like to add, we got alot of car modifications, but no inside interior, that's just a weird thing to not have in the game. 

 

We have a lowriders DLC but where fk is my Savannah or other lowrider vehicles 

Edited May 6, 2019 by wweraw526

[ilovefreebird]

1 hour ago, wweraw526 said:

We got people hiking up mountain trails, we see campers on the road driving around aimlessly and not one camp ground is to be found on the map O_O. 

 

How tf do you not have a camp ground area with cabins and tents, but have stuff that has something to do with traveling and hiking.

 

Also I'd like to add, we got alot of car modifications, but no inside interior, that's just a weird thing to not have in the game. 

 

 

There are actually tents and campgrounds all over the map north of the city.

 

And there are a lot of cars that can have their interiors modified extensively.

 

 

[wweraw526]

10 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

 

There are actually tents and campgrounds all over the map north of the city.

 

And there are a lot of cars that can have their interiors modified extensively.

 

 

Where could I find a camp ground and tents? you got a specific location that I can check

 

I'm guessing the inside interiors are from Benny's workshop right? 

Edited May 6, 2019 by wweraw526

[ilovefreebird]

2 minutes ago, wweraw526 said:

Where could I find a camp ground and tents? you got s specific location that I can check

 

I'm guessing the inside interiors are from Benny's workshop right? 

I know where a bunch are in-game, but can't explain the exact locations. There's one near Madrazo's house, one on Mt. Gordo, and one near the bridge in Raton Canyon, just  to name a few.

 

Benny's interiors can be upgraded, but a select few "normal" cars also have interior options at LSC.

[wweraw526]

31 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

I know where a bunch are in-game, but can't explain the exact locations. There's one near Madrazo's house, one on Mt. Gordo, and one near the bridge in Raton Canyon, just  to name a few.

 

Benny's interiors can be upgraded, but a select few "normal" cars also have interior options at LSC.

I'll have to check out those locations some time.

 

out of all the vehicles I have put in LSC, I have not seen an option to change the seats a different color or make them some certain style, I'll have to check that out at Benny's sometime I have not been there that much really. 

 

Edit: I checked Mount Gordo and Raton canyon and found nothing. peds were hiking on gordo though that was about it

Edited May 6, 2019 by wweraw526

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

The SMG's "Default Clip" has 30 rounds in a 15 round magazine, the "Extended Clip" has 60 rounds in a 30 round magazine and the "Drum Magazine" has 100 in a 50 round drum magazine.

 

[MaddenedGhost]

If you are a normal GTA player, with a couple of garages full of vehicles that you got with your hard-earned cash, and say you needed some money or just wanted to get yourself a new car or business or whatever.. and you kept selling them one after another in quick succession, you fall right into the same category as car duplicators according to Rockstar, same rules and punishments are applied to you.

Daily limits, cap offenders .. whatever.

Isn't this brilliant?

Edited May 12, 2019 by Maddened_Ghost

[IceDree]

On 5/6/2019 at 11:44 PM, wweraw526 said:

Edit: I checked Mount Gordo and Raton canyon and found nothing. peds were hiking on gordo though that was about it

They removed the Mount Gordo camp when they added the facilities with DDH. However, its still present in SP.

 

Go to the exact location of the Mount Gordo facility in SP & you'll find it.

 

Edit: this is the one near Martin's shed.

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by IceDree

[Xiled]

10 hours ago, Maddened_Ghost said:

If you are a normal GTA player, with a couple of garages full of vehicles that you got with your hard-earned cash, and say you needed some money or just wanted to get yourself a new car or business or whatever.. and you kept selling them one after another in quick succession, you fall right into the same category as car duplicators according to Rockstar, same rules and punishments are applied to you.

Daily limits, cap offenders .. whatever.

Isn't this brilliant?

Whose to blame? Those who duplicate cars, or the company who still lets players duplicate cars after 5.5 years?

[TCA]

Can’t wear new running shoes with jeans from biker update or 2013 versions....makes ZERO sense!

[kenmy13999]

5 hours ago, Xiled said:

Whose to blame? Those who duplicate cars, or the company who still lets players duplicate cars after 5.5 years?

I would say the company, not because they still let people dupe cars but because most dupers knows about and how to avoid the limit, and therefore the daily limit starts to get redundant might be more legit people affected.. 

[Rotorhead359]

7 hours ago, Xiled said:

Whose to blame? Those who duplicate cars, or the company who still lets players duplicate cars after 5.5 years?

This.

1 hour ago, kenmy13999 said:

I would say the company, not because they still let people dupe cars but because most dupers knows about and how to avoid the limit, and therefore the daily limit starts to get redundant might be more legit people affected.. 

Oh, I blame them exactly for this. They just can't get their sh*t together it seems. They are unable to fix glitches, or unwilling, or both. And they are completely incompetent at stopping modding.

They have their money, they still sell shark cards in today's heavily inflated economy, and as long as that doesn't change, they won't invest in dedicated game servers, which would solve most of the cheating issues.

One of the founding principles in security is that you never trust the client's machine, and meanwhile Rockstar chose to make a Peer to Peer system with no kind of server verification. They should get sued for negligence. Some mod menus can cause damage to other player's hardware, and Rockstar does nothing to stop it.

Everyone should just stop buying shark cards. Their prices haven't changed since 2013 but your ingame money today isn't worth half of what it was in 2013.

Edited May 13, 2019 by AirWolf359

[kenmy13999]

30 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

 

Oh, I blame them exactly for this. They just can't get their sh*t together it seems. They are unable to fix glitches, or unwilling, or both. 

They patch glitches on a weekly and sometimes daily basis so unable/unwilling is debatable. One can say they should've made it impossible in the first place but that ship sailed when they decided to use the peer to peer server sh*t they use  But they are to blame no matter how you look at it imo 

 

thanks to dupe glitches I've been able to play other games also because I haven't been forced to grind this game like crazy just to be able to buy some new things..

Edited May 13, 2019 by kenmy13999

[wweraw526]

10 hours ago, IceDree said:

They removed the Mount Gordo camp when they added the facilities with DDH. However, its still present in SP.

 

Go to the exact location of the Mount Gordo facility in SP & you'll find it.

 

Edit: this is the one near Martin's shed.

 

Ah ok thanks for telling me, I wish they made an campground area somewhere in the mountains atleast, that would be nice

Edited May 13, 2019 by wweraw526

[RyuNova]

To the people talking about how its possible to juuuuuuust make enough money to feel satisfied but not enough where you fee content is bang on.

 

x2 events feel perfect, its a good return for the time you spend. Like two and a half hours for $420,000 Bunker work is fine, not enough to buy anything decent but its a solid number. Also something to notice as well, all the methods of money all make roughly the same amount per hour. Coincidence?

[IceDree]

5 hours ago, wweraw526 said:

Ah ok thanks for telling me, I wish they made an campground area somewhere in the mountains atleast, that would be nice

The second camping site in Mount Gordo is still there, I completely forgot about it.

 

 

And this is the site I told you about, the one they removed with DDH.

 

(From Director mode)

[TNT Goes Boom!]

Reusing the character models of the "Professionals" for the bodyguards at the bunker when you buy the security upgrade. Yes, I definitely feel at peace knowing those guys are the right people to defend my stock when they look exactly like the guys I have been killing throughout many missions in the game (especially some of the bunker resupply and sell missions).

[Pedinhuh]

On 5/26/2019 at 7:29 PM, TNT Goes Boom! said:

Reusing the character models of the "Professionals" for the bodyguards at the bunker when you buy the security upgrade. Yes, I definitely feel at peace knowing those guys are the right people to defend my stock when they look exactly like the guys I have been killing throughout many missions in the game (especially some of the bunker resupply and sell missions).

Its okay though, we pay Mendoza a life insurance now...In our names.

[Up2NoGood45]

Standing in the runway at Sandy Shores airport and call for the Buzzard.  It spawns a hike away on the gravel road

[Kiethblacklion]

9 hours ago, Up2NoGood45 said:

Standing in the runway at Sandy Shores airport and call for the Buzzard.  It spawns a hike away on the gravel road

And yet if you're in CEO mode and call in the free CEO Buzzard, it spawns right beside you.