Combat Rolling - stupid, retarded.

[RSRocks]

Hmmm... I play on Part-Auto Aim (Think it's called "GTA Classic") and MY auto-aim is locked, when I do a combat roll. But also the opponent loses his aim. It's not like you said, that only the one doing it loses aim.

 

The Combat Roll should - in my opinion - only disable the opponents auto-aim, not mine (when I perform the CR)!

Edited June 14, 2014 by RSRocks

[sultangris]

Hmmm... I play on Part-Auto Aim (Think it's called "GTA Classic") and MY auto-aim is locked, when I do a combat roll. But also the opponent loses his aim. It's not like you said, that only the one doing it loses aim.

 

The Combat Roll should - in my opinion - only disable the opponents auto-aim, not mine (when I perform the CR)!

 

yea sorry my bad if youre referring to me, i didnt realize it worked that way and my previous information was wrong. I guess i never rolled first so i didnt realize this, lol

[Reemer]

 

 

 

Rolling makes you a better person than the haters who don't roll.

 

Fact!

 

Just because you roll doesn't mean that I won't kill you.

 

Takes more skill to play than just roll in front of an enemy.

 

 

yup it takes more skill than just rolling, but rolling happens to be a skill that makes you better against players that dont use it, fact.

 

 

I keep saying no. I know some crazy killers players that don't roll and can kill easily. Even I, that I'm not a killer or don't play enough deatchmatches, know how to avoid it. It doesn't make you better than players that don't use it, it's just a resource that you have.

 

How does one avoid a roll?

 

By hiding behind a wall?

[Zwenkwiel]

Free aim in GTA is more about luck or exploiting than skill because of those problems.

 

 

HAHAHAHA, you can't possibly play auto-aim and say sh*t like this

more often than not auto-aim locks onto some random pedestrian instead of your intended target

 

how can free-aim, the system that gives you complete control over where your shoot, be more about luck or exploiting than skill

opposed to auto-aim, the system that does all the work for you and often times does it pretty damn randomly?

 

it's pretty clear to see which of these 2 aiming systems has more room for random elements (luck) and exploits (silly sh*t like combat rolls)

unless you're a complete f*cking idiot ofcourse

[Accendo]

Someone here thinks they know more about the effectiveness of combat rolls in combat than, say, I dunno, the Spetsnaz? Pretty easy to say that when you've never actually been involved in combat.

[Vooodu]

 

Free aim in GTA is more about luck or exploiting than skill because of those problems.

 

 

HAHAHAHA, you can't possibly play auto-aim and say sh*t like this

more often than not auto-aim locks onto some random pedestrian instead of your intended target

 

 

 

 

 

Judging by some of other his other comments.. Im starting to think hes just joking.

 

From AA taking more skill to FA being about luck...lol. I think hes funny.

[Robaldinio]

My friend and everybody else got kicked from my lobby the other day, except for this one guy with a red blip. I was near Simeon's garage and the red blip immediately headed straight towards me across the map. Once he arrived, he blew up my car and continued killing me.

 

Once my friend returned, I was explaining what happened and then I noticed that the red blip guy kept rolling around every time I tried to shoot him. It's not like I've never seen anybody roll before (people do it all the time), but it was the first time I thought about it and realised that I never do it. My friend immediately laughed and said he had never done that sh*t either.

 

Every time the red blip killed me, I just kept laughing manically through the mic during that moment where he can hear me. He must have got about 20 kills on me until he set mercenaries on me, which I somehow escaped from, or they failed or something. Anyway, in the end I felt like the winner.

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Once my friend returned, I was explaining what happened and then I noticed that the red blip guy kept rolling around every time I tried to shoot him. It's not like I've never seen anybody roll before (people do it all the time), but it was the first time I thought about it and realised that I never do it. My friend immediately laughed and said he had never done that sh*t either.

 

 

He must have got about 20 kills. Anyway, in the end I felt like the winner.

The guy owned you. Utterly destroyed you. You're refusal to use combat rolling isn't smart, it's stupid - why? Because the guy who got 20 kills on you figured out it works and used it on you successfully, while you and your buddy were laughing like morons over the mic all because you thought it was "dumb" and "sh*t".

 

The guy was laughing harder, trust me.

 

The fact you didn't realise it's easy to counter combat rollers (esp spammers) just makes it sound even more funny.

Edited June 15, 2014 by TheJackalSega

[Static]

 

Every time the red blip killed me, I just kept laughing manically through the mic during that moment where he can hear me. He must have got about 20 kills on me until he set mercenaries on me, which I somehow escaped from, or they failed or something. Anyway, in the end I felt like the winner.

What kinda of world do we live in when one declares themselves a winner because they died more than the other player?

 

SMMFH.

[Robaldinio]

One where I don't give enough sh*ts to trek across the map to start harassing somebody for no reason, and start wasting a f*ckton of ammo, including RPGs/grenades etc, for absolutely no gains. Not to mention the cash he spent on my Zentorno and his pussy mercenaries, lol.

 

I rely on my own speed and aiming, not trying to put other people's aiming off who are quicker than me by spazzing around on the floor. Also, the guy's K/D was over 2.0 so I knew what I was in for as soon as he spawn camped me in the middle of a massive empty car park.

 

Then again, my K/D would probably be that high too if I went out of my way to sh*t all over people who aren't being at all aggressive. I'll settle for my 1.5 though.

 

edit: By the way, I have no idea what your probably childish acronym is supposed to mean.

Edited June 15, 2014 by Robaldinio

[REVENGE777]

scumbag op wants people to stand in the middle of the street so that he can easily shoot people down. god f*cking forbid we have a way to move around during combat instead of just running around waiting to get shot.

 

sh*t...

Edited June 15, 2014 by SonofLosSantos

[Megakillertron]

 

 

 

 

It means the control-pads are awful and need to be supplemented.

 

 

The analog stick is good enough. Its not awful. AA is awful because it eliminates the point of actual shooting in most situations.

 

If it was 'awful' FA would be impossible. And even in AA people FA all the time. But the reality is people don't like to waste time to aim and want the lock on ASAP.

 

 

At longer distances the analog stick is adequate, but up close it really shows how poor a control method it is and that's why most, if not all, console games have aim assist and auto aim.

 

Personally, while i use AA i find i use FA a lot and that gives me a huge advantage in combat. But up close i don't want to deal with the clumsiness of the controller.

 

Most players don't want learn to deal with the controllers shortcomings.

 

 

 

Actually most player do want to learn.. Infact most don't even care. Theres a reason why most games don't have auto aim. Sure, they may add a bit of a aim assist buts thats now where near as over clocked as hard lock auto aim. And theres really only one that will help wen locked on, the combat roll.

 

 

Besides... in gta V. At close distances you should be not being aiming down sight. Its much easier to aim basically hip firing OR just go for the melee. Unless you use AA.

 

 

They want to learn but they don't care? That seems almost a contradiction. A lot of games have auto aim, particularly 1st/3rd person shooters. And all of them are supplemented by aim assist to varying degrees.

 

I forget where this tangent was heading.

Edited June 15, 2014 by Megakillertron

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One where I don't give enough sh*ts to trek across the map to start harassing somebody for no reason, and start wasting a f*ckton of ammo, including RPGs/grenades etc, for absolutely no gains.

Turn on passive mode, switch sessions, go to your apartment. Etc. There are many ways to avoid getting killed over and over without the need of wasting ammo. In the end, you lost about 10k in medical bills. And your K/D took a hit, seeing as you care enough to bring it up. Sounds like a winner alright.

 

 

 

Not to mention the cash he spent on my Zentorno and his pussy mercenaries, lol.

He sent mercs after you, destroyed your car and didn't mind using up ammo to spawnkill you. The guy obviously didn't give two sh*ts about money.

 

 

 

SMMFH.

 

 

Agreed on that.

Edited June 15, 2014 by TheJackalSega

[Robaldinio]

ITT: Butthurt combat rollers.

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ITT: Butthurt combat rollers.

I hardly ever combat roll, so no, you wrong, dawg.

 

ITT: Loser who thinks being spawnkilled makes him a winner.

[Gutslab]

This Topic - jealous, mad.

[Robaldinio]

 

ITT: Butthurt combat rollers.

I hardly ever combat roll, so no, you wrong, dawg.

 

ITT: Loser who thinks being spawnkilled makes him a winner.

 

 

I think you'll find I said I felt like a winner. I'm clearly aware I lost that particular fight. lern 2 reed.

 

And I always combat roll every time, so you're wrong. See how easy bullsh*t is?

Edited June 15, 2014 by Robaldinio

[Static]

 

 

ITT: Butthurt combat rollers.

I hardly ever combat roll, so no, you wrong, dawg.

 

ITT: Loser who thinks being spawnkilled makes him a winner.

 

 

I think you'll find I said I felt like a winner. I'm clearly aware I lost that particular fight. lern 2 reed.

 

And I always combat roll every time, so you're wrong. See how easy bullsh*t is?

 

 

That makes it even worse, that you actually enjoyed getting spawnkilled enough for it to cause you to laugh and enjoy yourself with your friend. "ohz manz he jst blwz up mine ZEN lawlz" Don't really understand that logic. Seems like you're a masochist to me, a virtual one i suppose.

 

One where I don't give enough sh*ts to trek across the map to start harassing somebody for no reason, and start wasting a f*ckton of ammo, including RPGs/grenades etc, for absolutely no gains. Not to mention the cash he spent on my Zentorno and his pussy mercenaries, lol.

 

I rely on my own speed and aiming, not trying to put other people's aiming off who are quicker than me by spazzing around on the floor. Also, the guy's K/D was over 2.0 so I knew what I was in for as soon as he spawn camped me in the middle of a massive empty car park.

 

Then again, my K/D would probably be that high too if I went out of my way to sh*t all over people who aren't being at all aggressive. I'll settle for my 1.5 though.

 

edit: By the way, I have no idea what your probably childish acronym is supposed to mean.

So you have to resort to using rpgs AND grenades to deal with one guy? And like TheJackalSega said, he obviously had enough money to waste it like that, and essentially that's what your money is for. I mean what do you really need to save money for other than cars? and oh here's a thought, it's virtual currency, so why bother saving it like its collecting interest? You rely on your own speed and aim, eh? Well apparently your "skillz" aren't cutting it for you if you get killed 20 times in a row by one guy. and to prove my masochist theory about you, you even checked his k/d before he came at you and you still stayed there and took it up the ass. Congratulations, you realized k/d ration doesn't mean sh*t in any game, especially a 3rd person shooter like this. So quit halfway braggin about your own k/d like anyone cares/ is impressed.

 

edit:use google(which im sure you have by now)or is that too childish.Here I'll simplify it for you.

 

S.M.D.H.

Edited June 15, 2014 by StaticLW

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Felt like a winner/is a winner, potato poteto.

 

You got your ass handed to you over and over again, let it happen, then came on to a public forum to tell everyone, but it's k, because you "felt like a winner". Good job there, champ.

[Wildfire_08]

Rolling is fine, it just shouldn't break combat lock.

 

Although I play free aim anyway so its meh to me, but if I end up in AA lobbies because of my friends, I always see people having a game of rolie polie instead of a gunfight.

[Robaldinio]

I didn't say I used RPGs. Jesus Christ. If you think I'm supposed to get mad or something when I get killed in a game, then you clearly don't get the concept of not caring. I guess you must take it all very seriously -- to the point that you're even taking part in this argument and essentially taking the side of somebody who you have never met, never will meet, and for all you know, could be just a figment of my imagination.

 

I'm not even reading all that by the way. Unfollowing post & getting on with my life (I mean the one outside of GTA).

[Static]

Rolling is fine, it just shouldn't break combat lock.

 

Although I play free aim anyway so its meh to me, but if I end up in AA lobbies because of my friends, I always see people having a game of rolie polie instead of a gunfight.

so you want to get rid of the only thing that can defend against an autolock? Yep, that makes sense.

[Static]

I didn't say I used RPGs. Jesus Christ. If you think I'm supposed to get mad or something when I get killed in a game, then you clearly don't get the concept of not caring. I guess you must take it all very seriously -- to the point that you're even taking part in this argument and essentially taking the side of somebody who you have never met, never will meet, and for all you know, could be just a figment of my imagination.

 

I'm not even reading all that by the way. Unfollowing post & getting on with my life (I mean the one outside of GTA).

I know you didnt in this encounter but you said " and start wasting a f*ckton of ammo, including RPGs/grenades etc, for absolutely no gains" which indicates that using RPGs & grenades(I like how you didn't deny using grenades though) for a single enemy is your modus operandi. And that's fine, but don't brag about your k/d in the next breath. I don't take anything in this game seriously, hence why I spend GTA$(fake money) like fake money and don't worry about my ammo consumption. and you must have a desperate need for attention if your imagination is capable of making up a imaginary friend, but to each their own. Don't care if you read it or not, you still took the time to reply, and you actually followed this piss-poor, idiotic excuse for a thread? Since you mentioned your GTA life, I already know you're going to hop on there and masturbate to getting spawnkilled by a tank. "THE EXPLOSIONS!!! THE VIBRATIONS!!!" Enjoy yourself I guess.

Edited June 16, 2014 by StaticLW

[MaxPayne47]

LOL @ all the haters ^^^

 

Ya'll think i'm the one that's butthurt?

 

My deathmatch record:

u mad?

 

It's sad and funny how 90% of the GTA community has become dependent on rolling every 2 seconds in a gunfight.

Edited June 16, 2014 by MaxPayne47

[Static]

oh the haters

 

why do ya'll think i'm the one that's butthurt?

 

My deathmatch record:

u mad?

It's just sad and funny how 90% of the GTA community has become dependent using auto aim LOL

 

There ya go, fixed that for ya. Congrats, you're proficient at holding two triggers at the same time.

And you were complaining about combat rolling saying it's an unfair advantage, because they don't stand still long enough for you to autolock. Which is sadder?

Edited June 16, 2014 by StaticLW

[MaxPayne47]

There ya go, fixed that for ya. Congrats, you're proficient at holding two triggers at the same time.

 

 

 

[Static]

 

There ya go, fixed that for ya. Congrats, you're proficient at holding two triggers at the same time.

 

 

 

 

Says the OP of this topic...

[Megakillertron]

LOL @ all the haters ^^^

 

Ya'll think i'm the one that's butthurt?

 

My deathmatch record:

u mad?

 

It's sad and funny how 90% of the GTA community has become dependent on rolling every 2 seconds in a gunfight.

 

 

Man, you sure are the only one impressed with those deathmatch stats.

[HowsItGoingM8]

what's more stupid is, I've seen people try to RPG a tank, miss, and try to combat roll away from the cannon shooting back at them

[MaxPayne47]

 

LOL @ all the haters ^^^

 

Ya'll think i'm the one that's butthurt?

 

My deathmatch record:

u mad?

 

It's sad and funny how 90% of the GTA community has become dependent on rolling every 2 seconds in a gunfight.

 

 

Man, you sure are the only one impressed with those deathmatch stats.

 

 

Got something better? impress me. plus i'm not bragging at all. keep hating.

 

My point has been proved, you and the other guy seem to think the basis of this thread is that i'm crying because i get 'owned' by Combat Rollers and can't deal with them, turns out I can.

 

It's the simple fact that this 'mechanic' is so abused, a lot of people don't even bother with cover anymore, just run into the open and roll x100. Gunfights have reached a point where they're just downright tedious as the typical players you encounter now will be rolling consecutively one after each other from a distance until someone gets a kill.

 

Considering 90% of players play auto aim, do you really, really think that the current state of deathmatches is entertaining?

Edited June 16, 2014 by MaxPayne47