Extended mag "glitch" is game design

[Crimie]

So ive been going mad at rstar support for a number of months over the extended magazine glitch. Every time i would report this "glitch" after each patch i would get some copy and paste "we are looking into this for you, look for this problem to be fixed in a future update" response.

 

However, i got a reply today which puts this crusade to an end

 

"We regret to inform you that if you purchased an upgrade for a weapon, this upgrade will be equipped to the weapon automatically at the beginning of each session. This is by design of the game and is in no way a glitch or error. Unfortunately the only solution is to unequip the extended magazines at the beginning of each session. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."

 

So what do you players of the GTAForums think of this game design? Ive never heard of such a thing in any video game, doesnt work like that in singleplayer either . My hair and clothes and car upgrades dont reset to their original customisation at the beginning a session so why should my guns?

 

Anyone here design games? Is this good game design? Its not a gamebreaker but it i would prefer to have the attachments i want equipped to my guns rather than the ones i bought forced on

[AlienTwo]

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

[REVENGE777]

It's f*cking stupid. This really dissapointed me. There are many weapons I refuse to use for this reason... The only reason that they haven't "fixed" it is because they don't want to... They are lazy...

[Crimie]

Well my Desert Eagle looks like a clown gun with suppressor and extended clip, this is the reason i paid extra for a special edition.....also i like to have a shorter clip for my guns just as personal preference, and visual preference. I thought with customisable guns this would be possible.

Edited May 21, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[AlienTwo]

Well my Desert Eagle looks like a clown gun with suppressor and extended clip, this is the reason i paid extra for a special edition.....also i like to have a shorter clip for my guns just as personal preference, and visual preference. I thought with customisable guns this would be possible.

Okay. Makes sense, thank you for clarifying.

[sultangris]

so youre complaining why? that it wont remember your settings? nothing in this game remembers your f*cking settings, thats annoying. I wish the radio and weapon wheel stayed where i put it, how hard would that be to implement? Never had a problem with the guns i guess. i dont buy attachments that i dont want, I learned early on with weapons that i dont use anymore that silencers dont do anything but lower your range so i quit buying them, haha!

[A Maned Wolf]

So ive been going mad at rstar support for a number of months over the extended magazine glitch. Every time i would report this "glitch" after each patch i would get some copy and paste "we are looking into this for you, look for this problem to be fixed in a future update" response.

 

However, i got a reply today which puts this crusade to an end

 

"We regret to inform you that if you purchased an upgrade for a weapon, this upgrade will be equipped to the weapon automatically at the beginning of each session. This is by design of the game and is in no way a glitch or error. Unfortunately the only solution is to unequip the extended magazines at the beginning of each session. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."

 

So what do you players of the GTAForums think of this game design? Ive never heard of such a thing in any video game, doesnt work like that in singleplayer either . My hair and clothes and car upgrades dont reset to their original customisation at the beginning a session so why should my guns?

 

Anyone here design games? Is this good game design? Its not a gamebreaker but it i would prefer to have the attachments i want equipped to my guns rather than the ones i bought forced on

f*cking lazy ass R* ლ(ಠ_ಠ)ლ

[CReaper210]

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

Because some people don't like the way it looks on certain guns.

[chriiis125]

Bad news. I hate this 'glitch' and hope every update that it gets fixed. But I guess now that won't happen. Ugh.

 

I wonder if this 'game design' excuse is will be the new 'utility vehicle' for those lovely guys at the support forum.

 

"We won't fix the extended mag glitch because it's game design."

 

"We won't fix the enemy's health on teaser trailer because it's game design."

 

"We won't fix the police siren glitch because it's game design."

 

etc.

[luisniko]

I thought you're going to talk the glitch that cause us to lose extended magazine from time to time. But when I read, you are actually talking the opposite.

 

My god...

 

I lost several extended magz like for AP pistol and Gusenberg- more than twice. I don't bother to complain to Rockstar because they won't return my money anyway.

[Crimie]

so youre complaining why? that it wont remember your settings? nothing in this game remembers your f*cking settings, thats annoying. I wish the radio and weapon wheel stayed where i put it, how hard would that be to implement? Never had a problem with the guns i guess. i dont buy attachments that i dont want, I learned early on with weapons that i dont use anymore that silencers dont do anything but lower your range so i quit buying them, haha!

The game recognises the settings i have for my vehicles, sort of like if you had to customise your cars to your liking at the beginning of a session?

It remembers weapon settings in singleplayer too. Remembering the settings is the whole point of customisation.

The fact that the support answer uses the word Unfortunately , apologise and inconvenience in the answer to explain this game design says it all.

 

Im not gonna have a little cry in the corner over this lol i just want to let people who are waiting for them to fix this to know its game design.....

[CrazyRay]

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

They think it makes the gun look ugly, as if you have to even see the damn thing...it's something only totally anal people would complain about and it's not the first thread like this

[sultangris]

 

so youre complaining why? that it wont remember your settings? nothing in this game remembers your f*cking settings, thats annoying. I wish the radio and weapon wheel stayed where i put it, how hard would that be to implement? Never had a problem with the guns i guess. i dont buy attachments that i dont want, I learned early on with weapons that i dont use anymore that silencers dont do anything but lower your range so i quit buying them, haha!

The game recognises the settings i have for my vehicles, sort of like if you had to customise your cars to your liking at the beginning of a session?

It remembers weapon settings in singleplayer too. Remembering the settings is the whole point of customisation.

The fact that the support answer uses the word Unfortunately , apologise and inconvenience in the answer to explain this game design says it all.

 

Im not gonna have a little cry in the corner over this lol i just want to let people who are waiting for them to fix this to know its game design.....

 

Yea im sure its the minority crying about that, not many people care what it looks like enough to sacrifice ammo capacity. Frankly im not standing around looking at my gun, im shooting people in the face and I want every bullet I can get! And besides, there are about 10000 more gamebreaking problems and issues that they should be spending their time on rather than this.

[REVENGE777]

I only hope a better game comes out soon. On that day I will say "bye bye" to the gta franchise...

[tjor24]

Jesus...I guess it's that time of the month for some people in here. Good to know you've all never complained about anything ever that could be considered trivial.

[Soran Is On]

I only hope a better game comes out soon. On that day I will say "bye bye" to the gta franchise...

were probably 3 years away from gta 6 so put your patient pants on. until then there wont be anything better to come out.

[sultangris]

Jesus...I guess it's that time of the month for some people in here. Good to know you've all never complained about anything ever that could be considered trivial.

well of course everyone has, but in a game thats as buggy and f*cked up as gta online there are far more important things to fix first. I would love to see them create the perfect game and fix everything but id just rather they fix gamebreaking bugs and balance things before they worry about fixing things that dont affect gameplay

[LuapYllier]

I have weapons with purchased silencers that I decided to take off after a while. I am pretty sure they stayed off unless I am just a tard and havent even noticed...how is this different?

[A Maned Wolf]

I have weapons with purchased silencers that I decided to take off after a while. I am pretty sure they stayed off unless I am just a tard and havent even noticed...how is this different?

On the CE and weapons that come with all attachments already purchased, they will either attach all attachments after moving from sessions, (the .50 pistol gets stuck with both the ext mags and suppressor), while the Special Carbine gets stuck with the scope and ext mag or flashlight and ext mags.

Its half a visual issue, half a functionality issue.

There are also weapons that lose attachments, like the AP pistol and Sweeper; weapons that are much more effective when paired with ext mags.

[Ayylien]

Pretty sure that Support guy hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. It only happens with the extended magazine, it's not a feature, it's a glitch that they just don't know how to fix. Same with the God awful textures on everything on your lower half of your body (pants, skirts, jeans etc). Tattoos that look horrendous, yet facepaint looks crystal clear (why?).

These kind of bugs really do make the game less enjoyable to a lot of people.

They've also been in the game since day one, they ain't getting fixed.

[sultangris]

the support guy definitely dont know what hes talking about, they are just all automated responses based on keywords i think. i contacted them once because my player rank kept increasing by my crew rank was stuck and about a month later i got an auto reply that said my rank was negative because i was cheating and the game is unable to recognize massive amounts of rp increase in a short time and the only way to fix it was to delete character and make a new one. I never cheated, my rank wasnt negative and i never said that it was. That response had nothing to do with my problem of crew rank being stuck, and clearly there was no real person who read my original message to them unless they were retarded as they were referring to player rank in their reply, f*cking morons, lol!

 

Then i responded again and said they sucked and their next auto reply was equally off topic, here is the txt of the email, start at the bottom and read up, lol! I rated it bad and told them why, maybe a real person will read that someday.

 

 

Hello Sultangris01,

We hope your experience with Rockstar exceeded your expectations and your issue was resolved quickly and effectively.

Remember that you are free to re-open your ticket at any time if you are still having problems and we can provide further assistance. Note that all feedback you provide below goes directly to Rockstar Games headquarters, so let us know what you really think of us!

Please take a fraction of a moment to answer one simple question below:

How would you rate the support you received?

Good, I'm satisfied

Bad, I'm unsatisfied

Here's a reminder of what your ticket was about:

Michael N, May 15 03:57 PM:

Hello,

Thank you for R* contacting Technical Support!
If you have any further issues or questions feel free to get in contact with us again and we'll be happy to assist you.

Best Regards,
MikeN

Sultangris01, May 06 03:04 PM:

I was not glitching or cheating and it has since started working again. I
reauthourzed my social Club and that seemed to fix it.

Thanks so much for your completely incorrect response to my query a month
after I submitted it. Get your sh*t together, your customer service and
tech support is horrible. I hope I never have to use it again.

Michael N, May 06 02:12 PM:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting R* Games.

We are sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues with RP. This could happen for a few reasons, including DNS changes and glitching in order to gain large amounts of RP in an extremely short period of time. The game was not built to handle such large amounts of RP in a short period of time and therefore automatically sets your character to a negative value. We did not do this to you. You must delete this character and create a new one for this to be adjusted and for you to be able to gain rank once again. Please refrain from any cheating or glitching on this new character, as repeated offenses can and will result in a lengthy stay in the Cheater's Pool or a Ban from our Servers.

Thank you for your cooperation.
Best Regards,

R*

Sultangris01, Apr 14 11:14 PM:

im in 5 different crews and i recently deleted and added one and my character is leveling up but the crew rank is not increasing, ive reauthenticated my social club and not sure what else it could be, any ideas?

Edited May 21, 2014 by sultangris

[ChromeTurismo]

Don't forget when you die you lose the whole clip. Losing 60 carbine bullets every time you die gets expensive real fast, especially with how little health we have. armor is useless since its weaker than toilet paper...

[XxX19Dude95XxX]

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

look at the pistol .50 is base mag is 9 then extended is 12 so what is the point to that and it makes it look ugly on the .50 at least

[A Maned Wolf]

 

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

look at the pistol .50 is base mag is 9 then extended is 12 so what is the point to that and it makes it look ugly on the .50 at least

 

Don't forget that it only takes one bullet for a kill if you aim for the head.

So if you really need 60 rounds to take people out, better your aim.

Edited May 21, 2014 by A Maned Wolf

[CrazyRay]

Do you guys call in to work, upset and unable to work because a bird crapped on your car on the way to work as well??

[Biohazard Abyss]

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

 

.50 pistol looks ugly as f*ck with extended mag.

[AlienTwo]

 

Just curious, not flaming; why do you want to remove the extended mag? I can't think of any downsides to having more bullets...

 

.50 pistol looks ugly as f*ck with extended mag.

 

This is been, oddly, my most quoted post ever.

[Black Rabbit]

So what do you players of the GTAForums think of this game design? Ive never heard of such a thing in any video game, doesnt work like that in singleplayer either . My hair and clothes and car upgrades dont reset to their original customisation at the beginning a session so why should my guns?

 

M'eh...my flashlight is always on when I first pull my gun out. Not that big of a deal. Yeah, the mags are more difficult to remove than switching off the light but seems legit that it's a game mechanic.

[sultangris]

 

So what do you players of the GTAForums think of this game design? Ive never heard of such a thing in any video game, doesnt work like that in singleplayer either . My hair and clothes and car upgrades dont reset to their original customisation at the beginning a session so why should my guns?

 

M'eh...my flashlight is always on when I first pull my gun out. Not that big of a deal. Yeah, the mags are more difficult to remove than switching off the light but seems legit that it's a game mechanic.

 

Its a really big deal if you are trying to kill other players as it makes you easy to spot. its the reason i quit buying the flashlight. I wouldnt mind them fixing this one too, very annoying to have to constantly shut it off every time you switch guns. Not much of a priority though because the flashlight is pretty worthless anyway, only useful in a mission or two.

[dvntsvnt]

Suppressor doesn't re-equip at new session start.

GTA logic = Fail?