Poll: Minors and Grand Theft Auto

[V HoneyBadger V]

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

 

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

 

heh, your grandma was probably far more racist than any kid today. im not really so sure the little bastards are even racist, they just hear and see black people constantly using and calling everyone online the N word and monkey see monkey do. most kids ive encountered online are not being racist, they are just constantly talking and whining about something.

 

Excuse me? Not exactly sure what you are trying to say with that first sentence, or what reason you have to assume something like that.

 

Anyway, it doesn't matter where a kid has heard something. They shouldn't repeat it if it is derogatory, and this is where the parents come in to tell them why they simply cannot say racial slurs in this day and age.

They would have potentially not heard these words mentioned if they were not playing GTA Online.

You may have not encountered racist kids on this game, but I certainly have. Especially the ones that whine and constantly yell random things.

Racism and sexism from children on an adult game is too far. Firstly, they shouldn't be on the game. Secondly, if they are going to have the privilege of parents who trust them enough with mature content, then they should act mature themselves.

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

Racist adults influence kids. But there are plenty of threads about this exact topic. No need to create another.

I have as much right to create a thread as anyone else, and this thread is not identical to the others. If there was no need for the thread, then why has it not been locked?

As you can see from the vote results, there is much to discuss.

 

Also, racist adults are not the only influence.

Edited May 21, 2014 by V HoneyBadger V

[Kampioen]

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

[sultangris]

 

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

heh, your grandma was probably far more racist than any kid today. im not really so sure the little bastards are even racist, they just hear and see black people constantly using and calling everyone online the N word and monkey see monkey do. most kids ive encountered online are not being racist, they are just constantly talking and whining about something.

Excuse me? Not exactly sure what you are trying to say with that first sentence, or what reason you have to assume something like that.

 

Anyway, it doesn't matter where a kid has heard something. They shouldn't repeat it if it is derogatory, and this is where the parents come in to tell them why they simply cannot say racial slurs in this day and age.

They would have potentially not heard these words mentioned if they were not playing GTA Online.

You may have not encountered racist kids on this game, but I certainly have. Especially the ones that whine and constantly yell random things.

Racism and sexism from children on an adult game is too far. Firstly, they shouldn't be on the game. Secondly, if they are going to have the privilege of parents who trust them enough with mature content, then they should act mature themselves.

 

I was just pointing out that racism has always been around and back in the era of your grandparents the percentage of racist people was far higher than it is today. I didnt mean that specifically your grandma was a raging racist, sorry, lol!

 

When every black person playing this game is saying the N word every 3 words out of their mouth you cannot expect kids to not pick it up and start saying it themselves. I just laugh at black people who use it constantly yet cry racist when someone of another race says it. Lead by example, its never going to go away until they quit using it themselves. I have heard a couple kids act pretty racist but its not like every kid is doing it and you will always have bad apples. By and large however most of the kids ive encountered are not spewing racial slurs and obscenities near as often as the adults ive encountered and i see no reason to complain about the kids if you dont care about the adults.

[V HoneyBadger V]

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[sultangris]

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

lol, that study proves nothing, most young boys are more aggressive than girls even before the invention of video games. Many things can make you aggressive. they even say that not all games with violent behavior are bad and not all children will develop bad habits. Im sure you could find a study about anything with any results you wanted if you looked on the internet long enough, doesnt mean the study is correct. Size of sample, length of time studies, exposure to other factors and tons of other variables will affect results. I can show you multiple studies about different subjects where one study show results in favor of and the next will show results against the same thing. which one will you believe? there are simply far to many variable to determine without a doubt something like that has an effect at all.

[V HoneyBadger V]

 

 

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

 

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

heh, your grandma was probably far more racist than any kid today. im not really so sure the little bastards are even racist, they just hear and see black people constantly using and calling everyone online the N word and monkey see monkey do. most kids ive encountered online are not being racist, they are just constantly talking and whining about something.

Excuse me? Not exactly sure what you are trying to say with that first sentence, or what reason you have to assume something like that.

Anyway, it doesn't matter where a kid has heard something. They shouldn't repeat it if it is derogatory, and this is where the parents come in to tell them why they simply cannot say racial slurs in this day and age.

They would have potentially not heard these words mentioned if they were not playing GTA Online.

You may have not encountered racist kids on this game, but I certainly have. Especially the ones that whine and constantly yell random things.

Racism and sexism from children on an adult game is too far. Firstly, they shouldn't be on the game. Secondly, if they are going to have the privilege of parents who trust them enough with mature content, then they should act mature themselves.

 

I was just pointing out that racism has always been around and back in the era of your grandparents the percentage of racist people was far higher than it is today. I didnt mean that specifically your grandma was a raging racist, sorry, lol!

 

When every black person playing this game is saying the N word every 3 words out of their mouth you cannot expect kids to not pick it up and start saying it themselves. I just laugh at black people who use it constantly yet cry racist when someone of another race says it. Lead by example, its never going to go away until they quit using it themselves. I have heard a couple kids act pretty racist but its not like every kid is doing it and you will always have bad apples. By and large however most of the kids ive encountered are not spewing racial slurs and obscenities near as often as the adults ive encountered and i see no reason to complain about the kids if you dont care about the adults.

 

Fair enough, no hard feelings here lol.

 

Yeah, what you mentioned about black people using n***** in a non-insulting way to each other confuses me. I don't think any other ethnic group do that. Yet they declare someone as racist if they are not part of the ethnic group and say the word.

 

Back on topic.

The reason I care more about kids than adults acting like this is that adults have reached an age where they are morally set on how to act. They already made their choice. Kids on the other hand can be taught better before it is too late to change. Like many have said, kids are easily impressionable. If they can learn how to be rude simply by hearing someone else be rude, why cannot the same happen with being nice?

 

Quite simply, with the current state of the laws and rules of media, kids will be free to play games like GTA. I can accept that. But with the privilege of being allowed mature content should come a certain sense of maturity and control. That way, kids don't abuse the freedom they have been given or use the trust of their parents as a means of being horrible to people over the Internet.

 

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

 

lol, that study proves nothing, most young boys are more aggressive than girls even before the invention of video games. Many things can make you aggressive. they even say that not all games with violent behavior are bad and not all children will develop bad habits. Im sure you could find a study about anything with any results you wanted if you looked on the internet long enough, doesnt mean the study is correct. Size of sample, length of time studies, exposure to other factors and tons of other variables will affect results. I can show you multiple studies about different subjects where one study show results in favor of and the next will show results against the same thing. which one will you believe? there are simply far to many variable to determine without a doubt something like that has an effect at all.Do you have any links to these studies that you mention to prove that the other guy's link is redundant? (which it isn't, all perfectly valid) Edited May 21, 2014 by V HoneyBadger V

[Notoris]

People need to realize the ESRB are guidelines and aren't mandatory to follow. Hell, I've been playing M Rated games since I can remember. In fact Conker's Bad Fur day is probably the first game I ever played and am I an alcoholic psychopath of any sorts? No. It's all about guidance from parents and adults and some common sense. I do admit most trouble comes from people under 18 because most kids these days seem to be privileged entitle little turds. I have met some cool kids online, though.

[sultangris]

 

 

 

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

heh, your grandma was probably far more racist than any kid today. im not really so sure the little bastards are even racist, they just hear and see black people constantly using and calling everyone online the N word and monkey see monkey do. most kids ive encountered online are not being racist, they are just constantly talking and whining about something.

Excuse me? Not exactly sure what you are trying to say with that first sentence, or what reason you have to assume something like that.

Anyway, it doesn't matter where a kid has heard something. They shouldn't repeat it if it is derogatory, and this is where the parents come in to tell them why they simply cannot say racial slurs in this day and age.

They would have potentially not heard these words mentioned if they were not playing GTA Online.

You may have not encountered racist kids on this game, but I certainly have. Especially the ones that whine and constantly yell random things.

Racism and sexism from children on an adult game is too far. Firstly, they shouldn't be on the game. Secondly, if they are going to have the privilege of parents who trust them enough with mature content, then they should act mature themselves.

I was just pointing out that racism has always been around and back in the era of your grandparents the percentage of racist people was far higher than it is today. I didnt mean that specifically your grandma was a raging racist, sorry, lol!

 

When every black person playing this game is saying the N word every 3 words out of their mouth you cannot expect kids to not pick it up and start saying it themselves. I just laugh at black people who use it constantly yet cry racist when someone of another race says it. Lead by example, its never going to go away until they quit using it themselves. I have heard a couple kids act pretty racist but its not like every kid is doing it and you will always have bad apples. By and large however most of the kids ive encountered are not spewing racial slurs and obscenities near as often as the adults ive encountered and i see no reason to complain about the kids if you dont care about the adults.

Fair enough, no hard feelings here lol.

 

Yeah, what you mentioned about black people using n***** in a non-insulting way to each other confuses me. I don't think any other ethnic group do that. Yet they declare someone as racist if they are not part of the ethnic group and say the word.

 

Back on topic.

The reason I care more about kids than adults acting like this is that adults have reached an age where they are morally set on how to act. They already made their choice. Kids on the other hand can be taught better before it is too late to change. Like many have said, kids are easily impressionable. If they can learn how to be rude simply by hearing someone else be rude, why cannot the same happen with being nice?

 

Quite simply, with the current state of the laws and rules of media, kids will be free to play games like GTA. I can accept that. But with the privilege of being allowed mature content should come a certain sense of maturity and control. That way, kids don't abuse the freedom they have been given or use the trust of their parents as a means of being horrible to people over the Internet.

 

well they already cant buy and shouldnt be playing the game as per the M rating but there is simply no way to prevent them if the parents dont care and buy it for them. Its far from a problem limited to kids who play gta however, you will see it everywhere online. kids are no longer taught respect and discipline. Back in my day kids werent disrespectful very often cause if they were their parents or their teachers or even strangers beat their asses if they were disrespectful and they learned quick it was unacceptable to behave in such a manner and there would be consequences if they did. Nowdays there is no real punishment and they do whatever they want cause there is no consequence to their actions and their parents or parent usually have no clue what they are doing online but I can guarantee they act far worse online than they would dare in person simply because they know they can get away with it.

[Kampioen]

 

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

lol, that study proves nothing, most young boys are more aggressive than girls even before the invention of video games. Many things can make you aggressive. they even say that not all games with violent behavior are bad and not all children will develop bad habits. Im sure you could find a study about anything with any results you wanted if you looked on the internet long enough, doesnt mean the study is correct. Size of sample, length of time studies, exposure to other factors and tons of other variables will affect results. I can show you multiple studies about different subjects where one study show results in favor of and the next will show results against the same thing. which one will you believe? there are simply far to many variable to determine without a doubt something like that has an effect at all.

 

 

You clearly didn't understand the news article about the study. I was going to advice you to read the actual study before refuting it, but everything you just said is contradicted in the news article already so I would advice you to read that again. I'm a social scientist myself and what I gather from the news article seems reliable.

 

Just to be clear, the study is not comparing agressive behavior between boys and girls. It's comparing agressive behavior between kids who play video games and kids who don't. The sample size is adequate (over 3,000), and the longtitude of the study is also fine (3 years). They've controlled for the most obvious other variables as well. And then there's this: "they even say that not all games with violent behavior are bad and not all children will develop bad habits." I've told you this already, nobody is claiming that. That would be a ridiculous thing to say.

 

I don't have access to the article and I assume that neither do you, but if you're going to refute it based on the information you have from the news article then you're pretty much denying science. Not to mention that it doesn't make you sound very smart when you try to debunk a peer reviewed study by saying things that aren't even true or don't apply to this study.

 

If you would like to show me one of these studies that claims the opposite, I would love to see it.

Edited May 22, 2014 by CenMan

[sultangris]

here you go, there are more. google "studies showing no link between videogames and violence" and you can keep yourself occupied for a long time checking them all out.

 

http://cjb.sagepub.com/content/35/3/311.abstract

 

http://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(08)01037-8/abstract

[AdmiralAmmunation]

 

 

 

 

 

If you're stupid enough to let a minor upset you then you have bigger problems. The real problem on gta online are the grown ass men who are griefing. f*ck a little kid who thinks it's cool to glitch, but when you get full grown, racist ass pieces of sh*t on here, then you know the world has problems.

 

Firstly, this isn't about people being upset. I created this thread so people could voice their concerns and opinions on a matter that is clearly quite two-sided and controversial.

You also imply that sensitive people are stupid, which is not even worth discussing further.

Some of us have already mentioned the fact that there are not yet full grown kids on here that are racist. It would help if you read the thread fully before contributing, but the input is valued nonetheless. I think racist kids are more of a concern than racist adults, because they are the next generation. Do you want to live in a hateful future?

heh, your grandma was probably far more racist than any kid today. im not really so sure the little bastards are even racist, they just hear and see black people constantly using and calling everyone online the N word and monkey see monkey do. most kids ive encountered online are not being racist, they are just constantly talking and whining about something.

Excuse me? Not exactly sure what you are trying to say with that first sentence, or what reason you have to assume something like that.

Anyway, it doesn't matter where a kid has heard something. They shouldn't repeat it if it is derogatory, and this is where the parents come in to tell them why they simply cannot say racial slurs in this day and age.

They would have potentially not heard these words mentioned if they were not playing GTA Online.

You may have not encountered racist kids on this game, but I certainly have. Especially the ones that whine and constantly yell random things.

Racism and sexism from children on an adult game is too far. Firstly, they shouldn't be on the game. Secondly, if they are going to have the privilege of parents who trust them enough with mature content, then they should act mature themselves.

 

I was just pointing out that racism has always been around and back in the era of your grandparents the percentage of racist people was far higher than it is today. I didnt mean that specifically your grandma was a raging racist, sorry, lol!

 

When every black person playing this game is saying the N word every 3 words out of their mouth you cannot expect kids to not pick it up and start saying it themselves. I just laugh at black people who use it constantly yet cry racist when someone of another race says it. Lead by example, its never going to go away until they quit using it themselves. I have heard a couple kids act pretty racist but its not like every kid is doing it and you will always have bad apples. By and large however most of the kids ive encountered are not spewing racial slurs and obscenities near as often as the adults ive encountered and i see no reason to complain about the kids if you dont care about the adults.

 

Fair enough, no hard feelings here lol.

 

Yeah, what you mentioned about black people using n***** in a non-insulting way to each other confuses me. I don't think any other ethnic group do that. Yet they declare someone as racist if they are not part of the ethnic group and say the word.

 

Back on topic.

The reason I care more about kids than adults acting like this is that adults have reached an age where they are morally set on how to act. They already made their choice. Kids on the other hand can be taught better before it is too late to change. Like many have said, kids are easily impressionable. If they can learn how to be rude simply by hearing someone else be rude, why cannot the same happen with being nice?

 

Quite simply, with the current state of the laws and rules of media, kids will be free to play games like GTA. I can accept that. But with the privilege of being allowed mature content should come a certain sense of maturity and control. That way, kids don't abuse the freedom they have been given or use the trust of their parents as a means of being horrible to people over the Internet.

 

Sultangris, I just did a quick google search because the notion that no scientist has been able to show any negative effects at all of video games on children sounded ridiculous to me. Here you go:

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/03/140324181255.htm

 

You shouldn't say things like "there is no proven link" when you haven't even done a google search to check first.

 

lol, that study proves nothing, most young boys are more aggressive than girls even before the invention of video games. Many things can make you aggressive. they even say that not all games with violent behavior are bad and not all children will develop bad habits. Im sure you could find a study about anything with any results you wanted if you looked on the internet long enough, doesnt mean the study is correct. Size of sample, length of time studies, exposure to other factors and tons of other variables will affect results. I can show you multiple studies about different subjects where one study show results in favor of and the next will show results against the same thing. which one will you believe? there are simply far to many variable to determine without a doubt something like that has an effect at all.Do you have any links to these studies that you mention to prove that the other guy's link is redundant? (which it isn't, all perfectly valid)Again, just being 18 doesn't mean sh*t.

There are plenty of impressionable, asshole 25 year olds and mature, knows games aren't reality 12 year olds.

Just being older doesn't mean you automatically act better.

Edited May 22, 2014 by AdmiralAmmunation

[Kampioen]

here you go, there are more. google "studies showing no link between videogames and violence" and you can keep yourself occupied for a long time checking them all out.

 

http://cjb.sagepub.com/content/35/3/311.abstract

 

http://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(08)01037-8/abstract

 

Interesting. I probably have access to the first article so I might read that later.

 

Here's a little collection of scientific articles on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversies#Scientific_debate

 

Some show links between agressive behavior and video games, others do not. However, thought processes do seem to be affected (especially in children) and desensitization to violence seem to be pretty well supported. This can manifest itself in all kinds of different ways besides acting violently, for instance in how you vote.

[sultangris]

 

here you go, there are more. google "studies showing no link between videogames and violence" and you can keep yourself occupied for a long time checking them all out.

 

http://cjb.sagepub.com/content/35/3/311.abstract

 

http://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(08)01037-8/abstract

 

Interesting. I probably have access to the first article so I might read that later.

 

Here's a little collection of scientific articles on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversies#Scientific_debate

 

Some show links between agressive behavior and video games, others do not. However, thought processes do seem to be affected (especially in children) and desensitization to violence seem to be pretty well supported. This can manifest itself in all kinds of different ways besides acting violently, for instance in how you vote.

 

yup, like i said you can always find studies proving both sides. Usually there are far too many variables to be able to control all of them to achieve undeniable results. At any rate gta gamers are not growing up to be murderers.

Edited May 22, 2014 by sultangris

[HKM87]

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

[Ai®a©ob®a]

[CrazyRay]

American strip clubs aren't bottomless?

They do exist, but they can't sell alcohol if it is a bottomless club...usually these places are also 18+ instead of 21+

[Ai®a©ob®a]

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

I think the majority of those voting that it's the parent choice are the ones who are under 18.

 

OP should've Added a poll that included something for the "Minors" to vote on like something like "I'm a minor but i think i am mature enough" or something like that

 

American strip clubs aren't bottomless?

They do exist, but they can't sell alcohol if it is a bottomless club...usually these places are also 18+ instead of 21+

 

While you can get into a Strip Club in the U.S @ 18 you have to go though a difference entrance and you are either given a wrist ban or a hand stamp confirming you are not of drinking age but It depends on what state you are in is in my state the Strippers can only appear topless now no bottomless strip clubs in this state but you could drink alcohol when it was bottomless too the majority of their sales are alcohol because they charge you a flat rate to get into the club and if they didn't serve alcohol they wouldn't make any money.

 

So Mr Ray is wrong you can drink when you are in a full nude strip club but then again it depends on where you live and the local laws

Edited May 22, 2014 by AiraCobra

[sultangris]

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

are you surprised? most people here started playing rated M games before they were 18, how old were you when you played your first one? Im not gonna say they shouldnt be allowed to play a rated M game when I played them when I was younger. They dont bother me very often anyway. Its not like they are super leet and keep killing everyone. There are way more immature adults than there are kids that annoy me over voice chat and its pretty easy to mute people and solve that problem. Then you dont hear any sh*t talking or crying while you shoot them, haha!

 

I dont get how they cause you any problems unless you are too stupid to mute them and then really its your own fault and not theirs, cause they are no worse than anyone else playing.

Edited May 22, 2014 by sultangris

[hotrats773]

True story: My 13 year old got GTA V as a Bat Mitzvah gift (bless my *ahem* friends..) Now she wanted the game and I was OK with it but I did restrict her from seeing certain aspects of the game (torture scene in SP, strippers, the sex scenes and other things I deemed not age-appropriate). I am no Fred Rogers but I DO care what she gets exposed to and feel there's a time and a place for it. One thing that we did emphasize with her is to be respectful of others online and treat other characters as if there is a human being on the other end - because there is. For her, GTA is basically The Sims but with guns and fast cars. She role-plays with her friends and never goes in a public lobby unless I am there. I am a helicopter parent when it comes to gaming online.

 

That said, I've encountered good kids and bad kids online. Good adults and bad adults online. It's such a crap shoot. The only thing that grates on me is the voices. After a bloodbath, I don't like hearing a squeeky little 10 year old voice on my mic. Ruins the ambiance (heheh). Otherwise, kids are fine.

 

Here; I'll do it for you: COOL STORY BRO!

[sultangris]

yes their voices are annoying but are they really any more annoying than the dumbass who has his radio cranked? or the guy singing along with the radio? or the guy using some crappy mic with the sound output of everyone else talking coming though his tv speakers? percentage wise squeaky kids are the least of the annoyances i encounter and they are all easily fixed by setting it to crew and friends so its not a big problem. On the rare occasions i have chat set to everyone just to see whats happening and there arent too many of the aforementioned idiots in the lobby there is still the problem of too many people talking at the same time which makes it hard to have a decent conversation anyway

[xskinzcity]

15 and up i dont mind.. but the squeakers gotta go. however, i enjoy killing them lol

[HKM87]

 

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

are you surprised? most people here started playing rated M games before they were 18, how old were you when you played your first one? Im not gonna say they shouldnt be allowed to play a rated M game when I played them when I was younger. They dont bother me very often anyway. Its not like they are super leet and keep killing everyone. There are way more immature adults than there are kids that annoy me over voice chat and its pretty easy to mute people and solve that problem. Then you dont hear any sh*t talking or crying while you shoot them, haha!

 

I dont get how they cause you any problems unless you are too stupid to mute them and then really its your own fault and not theirs, cause they are no worse than anyone else playing.

 

I don't play free roam in public lobbies so I'm not annoyed by any unwanted encounters at all. All I'm saying is that GTAonline is the only online game that have an inmature, minors and rude audience. World of Warcraft, GTA IV multi-player and Wild Star don't have these kinds of audiances from my experience. There's something in this game that appeal to "yolo kiddies", maybe the cars which they percieve as their only 'toys' in this mature game, and maybe also due to the HUGE media coverage of GTA V.

Edited May 23, 2014 by HKM87

[sultangris]

 

 

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

are you surprised? most people here started playing rated M games before they were 18, how old were you when you played your first one? Im not gonna say they shouldnt be allowed to play a rated M game when I played them when I was younger. They dont bother me very often anyway. Its not like they are super leet and keep killing everyone. There are way more immature adults than there are kids that annoy me over voice chat and its pretty easy to mute people and solve that problem. Then you dont hear any sh*t talking or crying while you shoot them, haha!

 

I dont get how they cause you any problems unless you are too stupid to mute them and then really its your own fault and not theirs, cause they are no worse than anyone else playing.

 

I don't play free roam in public lobbies so I'm not annoyed by any unwanted encounters at all. All I'm saying is that GTAonline is the only online game that have an inmature and minors audience. World of Warcraft GTA IV multi-player and Wild Star don't have these kinds of audiances from my experience. There's something in this game that appeal to "yolo kiddies", maybe the cars which they percieve as their only 'toys' in this mature game

 

its certainly not the only game that they are in though, there seems to be far more of them in games like gta and cod that are more arcade style and super easy to play but you wont find many of them in games that are harder and require some actual skill. The open sandbox type world of gta appeals to many different types of gamers because there are so many different things you can do within it.

[iProGam3r]

I'm younger than than the games certificate yet I and many people of my age understand adult themes as young people are exposed to it sooner where as naive parents don't realise, I am speaking from experience but I'm not that young however I have heard young people casually talking about girls sexual parts before, openly. I have no interest in the strip club or prostitutes in this game because it's a game,I only go in there to bank my cash or start a shoot out and bide from police. I think people should stop generalising youths as the media report us as "hoodlum gangsters" where as we are all different and have different views and opinions, however j have encountered some extremely young children on the mic talking rudely with obscene language to others but we are not all like them!

[V HoneyBadger V]

 

 

So the majority of the voices are no? meaning that kiddies should play adult games? f*ck, even GTAF is full of Kiddies. Go back to play stupid mario kids

 

are you surprised? most people here started playing rated M games before they were 18, how old were you when you played your first one? Im not gonna say they shouldnt be allowed to play a rated M game when I played them when I was younger. They dont bother me very often anyway. Its not like they are super leet and keep killing everyone. There are way more immature adults than there are kids that annoy me over voice chat and its pretty easy to mute people and solve that problem. Then you dont hear any sh*t talking or crying while you shoot them, haha!

 

I dont get how they cause you any problems unless you are too stupid to mute them and then really its your own fault and not theirs, cause they are no worse than anyone else playing.

 

I don't play free roam in public lobbies so I'm not annoyed by any unwanted encounters at all. All I'm saying is that GTAonline is the only online game that have an inmature, minors and rude audience. World of Warcraft, GTA IV multi-player and Wild Star don't have these kinds of audiances from my experience. There's something in this game that appeal to "yolo kiddies", maybe the cars which they percieve as their only 'toys' in this mature game, and maybe also due to the HUGE media coverage of GTA V.

I don't think you have played those games before then.

Every single game has been invaded by squeakers. The amount of each game differs, but they are always there. My eardrums were shattered many times on GTA IV multiplayer, because some kids thought they were allowed to flame everyone in the lobby. The screaming began when the heavens opened and rockets descended down to ruin their day.

I miss the old Buzzard.

 

I do agree with your statement about the publicity this game has had, and what kind of person it has attracted. This has developed some unhealthy desire for people to make their cars look absolutely vile. Just look at some of the car threads to see what I mean. Chrome and rainbow cars exist because people think it's absolutely hilarious, despite the fact that it stopped being funny back in October.

 

If children insist of staying, then please learn how to talk with respect and dignity. That way, everyone is happy.

[RSRocks]

In my opinion, it's no problem when minors play GTA, when these kids know the difference between a game and the real life.

 

GTA gets also therapeutic in a way! You had a bad day, turn on your console and run over random people on the streets of GTA. You do not harm anyone and you let go of your anger.

 

 

[paulzx6r]

my 10 year old son plays the game, he is intelligent enough to know the difference between a game and RL, he knows not to use foul language, even though people his age use it at school, i have heard them myself, he mainly plays in invite only sessions with players his age from school, i also play on-line with him in these sessions and we have a laugh, i remember a murder which took place in England in the 90's the Jamie bulger killing, that was 2 young boys who killed a 2 year old child in a terrible manner involving bricks and railway lines, the press tried to like the crime with the 2 offenders having watched the movie Child's Play! now i honestly don't believe that if you watch a violent movie or play a video game which depicts violence that you become violent yourself, i firmly believe it is in you from birth, genetics, the way you are wired, but opinions differ from one person to another