Bulletproof Rear Vehicles Unbalanced and Illogical

[cswood]

I used JB700 in a mission,I died.

 

Ot:I drive a Monroe.Simple looks and good protection.

 

Did you realise that the whole Pegassi family have bulletproof backs?(Except the Bati). The Zentorno,Monroe,Infernus and Vacca are all bulletproof.

 

Monroe DOES NOT have a bulletproof back.

 

Old post I know but I recalled reading that somewhere and finally got around to actually testing it after realizing the Infernus does in deed have a bulletproof back and using it as an alternative to the Jester and Zentorno.

 

Anybody who thinks they're safe in the Monroe will end up prying bullets out of their skull.

[sultangris]

 

I used JB700 in a mission,I died.

 

Ot:I drive a Monroe.Simple looks and good protection.

 

Did you realise that the whole Pegassi family have bulletproof backs?(Except the Bati). The Zentorno,Monroe,Infernus and Vacca are all bulletproof.

 

Monroe DOES NOT have a bulletproof back.

 

Old post I know but I recalled reading that somewhere and finally got around to actually testing it after realizing the Infernus does in deed have a bulletproof back and using it as an alternative to the Jester and Zentorno.

 

Anybody who thinks they're safe in the Monroe will end up prying bullets out of their skull.

 

anyone who thinks they are safe in any car will end up being splattered across the landscape when a rocket or sticky hits them, unless they are a cheater and get video captured and sent to [email protected] and they get deleted, haha

[AlienTwo]

I hate these glitches, this the god mode, anything that gives players a non-monetary advantage. Lame.

[hugh750]

players that intentionally blow up pv's.

[AlienTwo]

That's cool with me, they just pay for em...

[Otsd4rv4]

Back may be bulletproof...but it ain't rocket proof. Don't care if I got to pay for the insurance. They're trying to kill me with some BS, I'll kill them with some BS.

[cswood]

 

 

I used JB700 in a mission,I died.

 

Ot:I drive a Monroe.Simple looks and good protection.

 

Did you realise that the whole Pegassi family have bulletproof backs?(Except the Bati). The Zentorno,Monroe,Infernus and Vacca are all bulletproof.

 

Monroe DOES NOT have a bulletproof back.

 

Old post I know but I recalled reading that somewhere and finally got around to actually testing it after realizing the Infernus does in deed have a bulletproof back and using it as an alternative to the Jester and Zentorno.

 

Anybody who thinks they're safe in the Monroe will end up prying bullets out of their skull.

 

anyone who thinks they are safe in any car will end up being splattered across the landscape when a rocket or sticky hits them, unless they are a cheater and get video captured and sent to [email protected] and they get deleted, haha

 

 

Well I tend to stay out of public lobbies so this is mostly mission related. I like to shoot at bad guys in Rooftop Rumble from a car with a bulletproof back since they can kill you in about 3 shots now, a bulletproof back gives you a huge advantage in certain missions.

[sultangris]

 

 

 

I used JB700 in a mission,I died.

 

Ot:I drive a Monroe.Simple looks and good protection.

 

Did you realise that the whole Pegassi family have bulletproof backs?(Except the Bati). The Zentorno,Monroe,Infernus and Vacca are all bulletproof.

 

Monroe DOES NOT have a bulletproof back.

 

Old post I know but I recalled reading that somewhere and finally got around to actually testing it after realizing the Infernus does in deed have a bulletproof back and using it as an alternative to the Jester and Zentorno.

 

Anybody who thinks they're safe in the Monroe will end up prying bullets out of their skull.

 

anyone who thinks they are safe in any car will end up being splattered across the landscape when a rocket or sticky hits them, unless they are a cheater and get video captured and sent to [email protected] and they get deleted, haha

 

 

Well I tend to stay out of public lobbies so this is mostly mission related. I like to shoot at bad guys in Rooftop Rumble from a car with a bulletproof back since they can kill you in about 3 shots now, a bulletproof back gives you a huge advantage in certain missions.

 

fair enough!

[CrysisAverted]

I do like the bulletproof rear window as someone who likes to avoid confrontation from time to time, i don't need some random auto locking onto me and killing me because I went onto the wrong street.

[Chilliad8789]

Hahaha the louvers on the Vapid Bullet make it bulletproof.

[GIRR]

First off an average person can carry up to four RPGs on their back including the launcher. So you want the characters to be weaker than an infant? What I take from this all of those who are complaining either suck ass or have horrible luck. It really isn't that hard to notice a player is coming at you. You have plenty of chances to kill them. And honestly. I've never once been killed by someone like that.

 

And for the love of all that is delicious. Quit blaming the game. It's fine. It's assholes who abuse it. Rockstar can't think of every little thing. It's not possible. It was intended as nothing more than a design unfortunately it had the additional benefit of bulletproof

Edited July 27, 2014 by Flicksy

[LawstFawkz]

Seriously? So I'm guessing you've been killed a million times with no thoughts of ever throwing a sticky, rpg,grenade launcher, minigun, or roll out and shoot from the sides, and now you want them removed or something? Learn to play the game, or buy a bulletproof car yourself and stop complaining.

[brooklyn718]

 

Bulletproof-backed vehicles have really ruined the concept of free roam. They either need to be nerfed or every vehicle given the option to have a bulletproof rear window to compensate.

 

Everyone drives around in a Zentorno or an Entity (or, in the 4x4 days, a Sandking with the double roll bars) which makes for a boring and unrealistic game devoid of any type of real personalization. Collecting cool cars is pointless when 99% of them are simply not practical in free roam with trigger happy 6 year olds, and Terminatoresque Mercenaries and police around. There is simply no incentive to driving the car you like when an Entity can pass you, stop, and blast you with an AP Pistol while you have no recourse of action.

 

I understand the idea R* had in mind. Make it through the long grind up to $1mil and you too will have the protection afforded to players who were loyal to the game and put in hours of playtime. But, 6 months later (especially with all the $2bil bounties and car dupe glitches), the Entities and Zentornos are no longer special. No one’s impressed by them. Owning one doesn’t represent style or hard work. Just because I choose to drive a Felon does not mean I’m poor and need to work harder for a bulletproof rear car like the Entity. I have millions in the bank, lvl 130+, and I simply like driving the Felon. And the game punishes me for being unique and realistic.

 

tl;dr: bulletproof rear cars are unbalanced and furthermore, illogical. Stop appealing to little kids in an 18+ game and end the stupidity.

 

[LawstFawkz]

The jester is where it's at.

Edited July 28, 2014 by LawstFawkz

[KeeNer187]

I love how people assume everyone is 6-12 years old when they're killed by cheap tricks. Using a bullet proof rear to your advantage, 6 years old. Griefing the lobby with a jet, 10 years old. Shoot on site, 12 years old.

Funny sh*t. Blow them up, call for your bullet proof rear vehicle and troll them and see how they like it.

[Trevor Philips Inc]

Personally I think that people locking on to you and absolutely raping you in the vehicle is worse than not being able to take shots at a driver from the back

 

It's not like the person driving the car has any hope in hell of out gunning somebody who's on foot with an AR anyway

 

 

If anything cars are still at a huge disadvantage in firefights. So much so that drive-by shootings are f*cking next to useless as somebody will just snap on to you and eviscerate you with an AR whilst you're spraying a pistol at their general area.

[Killzone3265]

Personally I think that people locking on to you and absolutely raping you in the vehicle is worse than not being able to take shots at a driver from the back

 

It's not like the person driving the car has any hope in hell of out gunning somebody who's on foot with an AR anyway

 

 

If anything cars are still at a huge disadvantage in firefights. So much so that drive-by shootings are f*cking next to useless as somebody will just snap on to you and eviscerate you with an AR whilst you're spraying a pistol at their general area.

http://gtaforums.com/topic/726793-auto-aim-locking-on-driverpassengeretc/

[Trevor Philips Inc]

Yep, should be removed completely.

 

Even without auto-aim, it's easy to kill a driver unless for some reason you're on really uneven terrain. Apart from that you have a decent area to aim at and no matter how fast the car is, they have to stop and turn around to drive back towards you once they pass, giving you f*cking ages to attack them.

[G o d]

ops mad cause he cant snipe people while their driving minding their own business.

[JetsRLove]

What is illogical is the fact that I can pull out a minigun out my pocket and then take out a rpg from the same pocket.

[DontCallMeSurly]

Oh, thank you! I'm glad to see others are seeing the problem with this feature as well.

 

As the, as you guys call it the "OP," said, I also see why Rockstar Games allowed for the super cars to upgraded as they can be; that is, if you put enough time into the game, you should be able to buy something cool and flashy for yourself. But again, as the OP said, with all of the glitching, modding, hacking, and duplicating, I think that entire idea is ruined thanks to the small children that have made their way into this community.

 

What I think should be done, and I speak solely for Free-Aim games as that's the only type I play, is that Rockstar Games should eliminate the ability to fully upgrade these types of cars. That is, I think you should obviously still be able to upgrade the engine, customize the car with different colors and what have you, different rims, etc., etc. But, I think they should cut out the ability to upgrade the armor and or give the car bulletproof tires. That way, at the very least, that provides a little bit of balance between real players, and these cheaters and "griefers" we're talking about.

 

Now! I know a lot of people have these cars, don't grief, and still like having bulletproof tires and fully upgraded armor; in which case, eliminating this would be an issue. That's why I would argue that we should instead, allow these cars to have the armor and bulletproof tires, however, only in races where I can these accessories being almost necessary.

 

What do you guys, and gals... if there are any girls on here... think?

 

Also, I saw a few comments above me mentioning some the flawed ideas behind the weapons inventory system and being able to throw C4 from a vehicle. I just wanted to say that I agree that these features do have some absurdities to them and I think someone should start a thread on this problem, if there isn't already.

[FourTwoZero]

Its pretty logical to me.. nevertheless i would support a decision to remove the bulletproof rear aspect of certain cars if they remove AA lobbies. As it is now free aim is a ghost town and its a deathwish driving around in 98% of vehicles in AA. I can be going max speed and if get anywhere within a block of someone on foot i get auto killed unless im driving a car with a bulletproof rear then the odds of that happen reduces a little if i can manage to make it past them before they point in my direction. Yeah i know "dont get near anyone" yeah okay then wtf is the point in playing online? If they remove the bulletproof rear my time spent playing griefing in a lazer will go to 100% of the time. I have to deal with a sh*tty game mode (AA lobbies) so quit your bitching and deal with it. You can still auto lock before they pass you bec i know you play AutoAim and if you dont get the auto kill before they zoom by a rpg or minigun will quickly deter the from reverse shooting. I bet if you could auto aim with an rpg you wouldnt be bitching would you? "Omg im gonna have to actually do some work and manually aim to kill this guy in the entity,gosh!" Im guessing you failed so you ran here crying.

[sultangris]

all guns and all cars should be completely removed from the game, then this could never happen to anyone again.

[GunTotinHippie]

Just used my bulletproof rear for cover the two guyz shooting me are dead I survived dry your tears op and be a man

 

ALSO the back of my car may be bulletproof to where you can't reach me but it is where my engine is and enough bullets will blow my car up. So man up take a trip to aummunation and go to war

[TreFacTor]

If you approach me in a car with a bullet proof back you're getting blow up....its that simple. I may not even shoot you if you're in a non super.

[L0SS4NT0SK1LL3RV]

I want to see if they're bulletproof enough for a RPG and the coming very soon Hydra fighter jet.

[Senor_taco28]

Jesus Christ, this thread is just a big circle jerk for more realism in GTA

[Chloroform]

So it's unrealistic that a car is bulletproof from the back because it doesn't have a rear window BUT we can flip cars over by turning the wheels. Hmm want to think about this logic you have?

[guardianactual]

I'd like bullet resistant windows too. Just bc... I'd love a speedometer too WTF!

bullet resistant windows give unfair advantages in missions? In rooftop rumble I use my tank... How is BF windows unfair LMAO

[Godovermoney]

I myself don't mind when someone tries reversing their car to try, and kill me. I pull out my rocker, or grenade launcher and blow their car up. So what you can't shoot them through the window. Their back sides aren't invulnerable when it comes to a rocket, or even a sticky. Learn to be creative.