Bulletproof Rear Vehicles Unbalanced and Illogical

[K-ROSE]

Bulletproof-backed vehicles have really ruined the concept of free roam. They either need to be nerfed or every vehicle given the option to have a bulletproof rear window to compensate.

 

Everyone drives around in a Zentorno or an Entity (or, in the 4x4 days, a Sandking with the double roll bars) which makes for a boring and unrealistic game devoid of any type of real personalization. Collecting cool cars is pointless when 99% of them are simply not practical in free roam with trigger happy 6 year olds, and Terminatoresque Mercenaries and police around. There is simply no incentive to driving the car you like when an Entity can pass you, stop, and blast you with an AP Pistol while you have no recourse of action.

 

I understand the idea R* had in mind. Make it through the long grind up to $1mil and you too will have the protection afforded to players who were loyal to the game and put in hours of playtime. But, 6 months later (especially with all the $2bil bounties and car dupe glitches), the Entities and Zentornos are no longer special. No one’s impressed by them. Owning one doesn’t represent style or hard work. Just because I choose to drive a Felon does not mean I’m poor and need to work harder for a bulletproof rear car like the Entity. I have millions in the bank, lvl 130+, and I simply like driving the Felon. And the game punishes me for being unique and realistic.

 

tl;dr: bulletproof rear cars are unbalanced and furthermore, illogical. Stop appealing to little kids in an 18+ game and end the stupidity.

[Biff73]

It makes no difference to me if a car has bullet proof rear windows cause I always greet aggressive incoming with explosives

[Kracus]

Oh yeah cause it's so f*cking enjoyable to be shot out of your car by an autoaim bitch who can't f*cking miss. Yeah great logic there pal.

[Vehicles]

I used JB700 in a mission,I died.

 

Ot:I drive a Monroe.Simple looks and good protection.

 

Did you realise that the whole Pegassi family have bulletproof backs?(Except the Bati). The Zentorno,Monroe,Infernus and Vacca are all bulletproof.

[Soran Is On]

Oh yeah cause it's so f*cking enjoyable to be shot out of your car by an autoaim bitch who can't f*cking miss. Yeah great logic there pal.

 

switching over to free aim takes a little getting used to but alleviates this frustration. its worth it, I can drive my convertibles around all day long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol just had to re-post these from another thread

 

I really dislike fighting entities though, just the same as I used to own fukko's with my Vacca. So use it or abuse it but theyre not going anywhere.

Edited May 16, 2014 by stonedpimpso

[Vooodu]

The OP has a point. I made a post like this back in October.

 

Eventually i embraced the bullet proof car. They are Free Roam Alphas.

 

They make all co-op jobs next to simple.. They allow players complete protection from the rear and the only way to deal with it is to blow them up.

 

Nothing more to say really.. I doubt R* will do anything now. Its been over half a year now.

[LoyalRockstarFanboy]

Another problem is the ridiculous guns. GTAO should have just had some basic weapons such as a standard pistol, smg, ak, sawn off shotgun, melees, and maybe some grenades when you get to level 120. At the very least they should remove the AP pistol and make it so you cant throw stickys while driving.

[ChrisV]

i have never seen any of them stop an rpg or grenade

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Another problem is the ridiculous guns. GTAO should have just had some basic weapons such as a standard pistol, smg, ak, sawn off shotgun, melees, and maybe some grenades when you get to level 120. At the very least they should remove the AP pistol and make it so you cant throw stickys while driving.

Nah, I think they should go one extra step; replace all guns and weapons with pillows. The streets of LS would be so much safer, amirite?

Edited May 16, 2014 by TheJackalSega

[BigBiff]

You're calling a game in which you can bang a hooker, and then kill her and get your money back, and all you need to do is hide for 35 seconds and the cops stop looking for you "illogical"?

 

Yah, no sh*t, thats the whole point.

[Vooodu]

Another problem is the ridiculous guns. GTAO should have just had some basic weapons such as a standard pistol, smg, ak, sawn off shotgun, melees, and maybe some grenades when you get to level 120. At the very least they should remove the AP pistol and make it so you cant throw stickys while driving.

 

 

They should have gave players a carry weight limit.

 

 

If they gave weapons, ammo and explosive weight. That would limit the amount of fire power one player can hold.

 

 

As it stands... 25 grenades? Really? Id say 1 or 2 is enough.

 

 

9000 bullets?.... 200 is enough for one gun,

 

RPG.. 1 Rocket and that should be it.

 

 

 

Infact you should only be able to carry a few explosives,, a few guns and small pile of ammo.

 

R* over killed it.. Which i turn helps players over kill each other and everything else.

Edited May 16, 2014 by Vooodu

[LoyalRockstarFanboy]

Indeed, this games like a freeroam call of duty.

[Vooodu]

i have never seen any of them stop an rpg or grenade

 

 

Unless you're smart enough to stash cash on an ALT or lucky enough to be shooing a cheaper Bullet Proof car that is just pointless.

 

 

RPGs cost money and so does insurance and their hospital bill. Paying over 10K to kill one player is usually not worth it.

[eXoSTINGNETTLE]

I have no problem with the guns or ammo. But I would like to see billet proof glass for 100,00.00. Any car.

Bullet proof windows, and also players couldn't shoot out of them.

[JC Hammer]

OP you can buy a bulletproof Rusty Rebel for $3k !

[Vooodu]

I have no problem with the guns or ammo. But I would like to see billet proof glass for 100,00.00. Any car.

Bullet proof windows, and also players couldn't shoot out of them.

 

 

Bullet proof rear windows.. That would balance it some what.

 

 

But full on bullet proof windows would be over kill

[Biff73]

Why not reactive armor to protect the car from rpg,grenades & stickies?Also add automatic fire alarm so the car dispenses fire retardent compound to prevent players from burning up your pvs?

[Vooodu]

Why not reactive armor to protect the car from rpg,grenades & stickies?Also add automatic fire alarm so the car dispenses fire retardent compound to prevent players from burning up your pvs?

 

 

IId say some anti sticky car polish would be great.

 

Stickys are really over done.. Simply because its a fling and forget tactic and people can hold 25 at a time.

 

25? Where in the hell does a player hold 25 stickys and still he able to walk straight?

Edited May 16, 2014 by Vooodu

[mochakaboom]

Lol yea, it's pretty dumb how that works.

 

Were shooting at the engine so maybe it should be alot more damage when shooting at the backside like that. In order to compensate the "bullet proof-ness''

[Vooodu]

Lol yea, it's pretty dumb how that works.

 

Were shooting at the engine so maybe it should be alot more damage when shooting at the backside like that. In order to compensate the "bullet proof-ness''

 

 

Well not all bullet proof cars have their engine in the back.

 

But that would make Infernus. Entity and Adder drivers back off faster.

[BigBiff]

 

Why not reactive armor to protect the car from rpg,grenades & stickies?Also add automatic fire alarm so the car dispenses fire retardent compound to prevent players from burning up your pvs?

 

 

IId say some anti sticky car polish would be great.

 

Stickys are really over done.. Simply because its a fling and forget tactic and people can hold 25 at a time.

 

25? Where in the hell does a player hold 25 stickys and still he able to walk straight?

 

Cargo pants.

 

Either way, 1 rpg would completely destroy any chance at continuous fighting. Boring as hell.

[sultangris]

It makes no difference to me if a car has bullet proof rear windows cause I always greet aggressive incoming with explosives

This. Rocket, grenade or sticky solves the problem quick, then spawn kill the hosers til they escape, haha!

[Vooodu]

 

 

Why not reactive armor to protect the car from rpg,grenades & stickies?Also add automatic fire alarm so the car dispenses fire retardent compound to prevent players from burning up your pvs?

 

 

IId say some anti sticky car polish would be great.

 

Stickys are really over done.. Simply because its a fling and forget tactic and people can hold 25 at a time.

 

25? Where in the hell does a player hold 25 stickys and still he able to walk straight?

 

Cargo pants.

 

Either way, 1 rpg would completely destroy any chance at continuous fighting. Boring as hell.

 

 

 

Cargo pants might hold 25 stickies...

 

Then explain the RPG...lol

 

 

EIther way... its over kill.

[Buggy2825]

This is a tough thread. Both sides have validity. But it all depends on the targeting preference. For free aim, which I play, the bullet proof cars are a bit over kill. I see the point in making them typically only the super cars that can do it, with the whole idea of I made the money and can afford the protection. But like the OP said cashocolypse and dupe glitches kinda ruined that.

 

I never drive my entity, it's basically a race car. I cruise my Futo, Schafter, Akuma, Sultan, and a few others.

 

Ya, you can always just blow them up. But then what? I gotta pay 10k because some 12 year old duped an XF 4 months ago and now thinks he's really good because no one can shoot him? Idk. That seems kinda crazy too

 

But at this point what can really be done? Not much

 

R* gave us no weight and an extreme amount of ammmo and a military arsenal, they want us exploding one another and spending our money. That way we grind, or buy shark cards. Or you can just accept bad sport and kill all cars till your broke and unarmed. Then give up the game because you have no cash, ammo, or means of obtaining any

 

 

It's really lose lose at this point. I just try to out run the Reverse bullet proof cars on my Akuma. When that fails. They kill me once and run away knowing I'll blow them up. Or you can grab your tank and causally roll thru LS. Not many of them will bother you then.

 

Or they go kamikazee into you. Either way. You gotta blow em up anyways.

Edited May 16, 2014 by Buggy2825

[Mr Fyn666]

i have never seen any of them stop an rpg or grenade

 

 

 

^^^

This

 

 

 

i have never seen any of them stop an rpg or grenade

 

 

Unless you're smart enough to stash cash on an ALT or lucky enough to be shooing a cheaper Bullet Proof car that is just pointless.

 

 

RPGs cost money and so does insurance and their hospital bill. Paying over 10K to kill one player is usually not worth it.

 

 

 

 

^^

Am not bothered about the money, have enough of that. If a player tries to reverse grief me I will use what ever it takes including, mugger, mercs, air support,

 

Funny to see their reaction which in most part is to run away....... Surprise>>>>>>>>>>>>

Edited May 16, 2014 by Mr Fyn666

[petraeus]

Awe, poor kid, did I camp you in my entity? Don't feel bad you were just another road bump for me, its nothing personal.

Edited May 16, 2014 by petraeus

[sultangris]

A 5 min mission pays for it, who cares, quit crying.

[Vooodu]

Ya, you can always just blow them up. But then what? I gotta pay 10k because some 12 year old duped an XF 4 months ago and now thinks he's really good because no one can shoot him? Idk. That seems kinda crazy too

 

R* gave us no weight and an extreme amount of ammmo and a military arsenal, they want us exploding one another and spending our money. That way we grind, or buy shark cards. Or you can just accept bad sport and kill all cars till your broke and unarmed.

 

 

100% correct.. This is so obvious its funny.. Free roam PVP is basically a way for R* to keep players broke.

 

Which i why i usually stash all my cash on ALT before a night of strict free roam.

 

Now.. I don't pay insurance when blowing up expensive cars. The attacker does as they should. And i don't waste any cash hospital bills.

 

I save a TON of cash by doing this.

A 5 min mission pays for it, who cares, quit crying.

 

lol... Whos crying? People seem to be crying when they pay for their own insurance tho

 

I sure as hell am not playing that silly 'I need to pay for their mistakes games"...

Edited May 16, 2014 by Vooodu

[Crunch McThornbody]

Bulletproof rear cars unbalanced and illogical?

 

That's a stupid argument.

 

The whole game is unbalanced and illogical, and with each patch it just gets worse.

[Buggy2825]

 

 

Ya, you can always just blow them up. But then what? I gotta pay 10k because some 12 year old duped an XF 4 months ago and now thinks he's really good because no one can shoot him? Idk. That seems kinda crazy too

 

R* gave us no weight and an extreme amount of ammmo and a military arsenal, they want us exploding one another and spending our money. That way we grind, or buy shark cards. Or you can just accept bad sport and kill all cars till your broke and unarmed.

 

100% correct.. This is so obvious its funny.. Free roam PVP is basically a way for R* to keep players broke.

 

Which i why i usually stash all my cash on ALT before a night of strict free roam.

 

Now.. I don't pay insurance when blowing up expensive cars. The attacker does as they should. And i don't waste any cash hospital bills.

 

I save a TON of cash by doing this.

A 5 min mission pays for it, who cares, quit crying.

lol... Whos crying? People seem to be crying when they pay for their own insurance tho

 

I sure as hell am not playing that silly 'I need to pay for their mistakes games"...

 

BULLsh*t?!?!? That WORKS?!?!?