Mafia III

[einjzmolf]

What exactly are you wanting from it? Does it need the ability to ride ponies or something to be unique?

 

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are these things called genres. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.

 

They're not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just making an action/shooting/driving game to cash in on the GTA style cash cow. It's business. It's generic for a reason. It will sell. Be negative all you want, that's the way the video game industry works.

[Misunderstood]

I was watching a video and apparently, there is an x-ray vision mode in this game that lets you see enemies through walls? I know most likely you will be able to disable it or just not use it but why would they put that type of sh*t in this game at all? The newest trailer put the game in a more positive light but I'm still worried that it'll be a very disappointing title. Nothing to do with the main character, story or sh*t. I could give a sh*t less if our main guy is an Italian or not. The gameplay is what worries me the most.

[Curtis]

 

Now I just hope they go bananas in an 80s drug miami setting in Mafia IV.

Nah I hope they do Vegas next and give us something like Casino

 

Yeah, a mob casino story.

Damn, that's actually pretty damn genius.

[The Made Man]

You do realize Bumpy Johnson and Frank Lucas both worked for the Italians right.

Wrong. Maybe during his early days Frank Lucas worked FOR the Italian Mafia, but definitely not during his prime. Why the heck would Frank be dependent on the Italian mafia when he was making as much as the Italian Mafia or MORE due to Golden Tringle Drug trade where he got his heroin DIRECTLY from the source. Thus cutting off the Italians. So again why would Frank need to work for them?

 

As for Bump Johnson. Again where is proof that he worked FOR THEM. The only thing Bumpy did for the Italian mob was cut deals especially those for Lucky Luciano. Also Bumpy Johnson himself and another mobster actually waged a war against another mobster named Dutch Shultz iirc.

 

 

Also the New Orleans Mafia died out within the last 15 yrs, they were still a powerhouse in the 60s.

Who are you referring to? Black criminal groups in New Orleans or the Italian mob?

 

 

But a lot of those black gangsters you mentioned worked for the Italians, not worked with. thats a big difference. Frank Matthews was one thing but what he tried to build didnt work out even the other "black mafias" tried to kill him and killed some of his guys.

You have no proof but just guess work and I definitely deflated the idea of Frank Lucas working for them. Fetch me a source saying the Black Mafia of Philadelphia working for the Italian Mafia. Fetch me a source stating Nicky Barnes was dependent on the Italian mafia. By the 60s the Italian mafia influence in black neighborhoods was non-existent. And Frank Matthews plan of cutting of the Italians worked since as of today black criminal groups still don't depend on the Italian Mob.

 

And some black mobs tried to kill Frank Matthews, doesn't mean Frank Matthews still wasn't afraid of the Italian Mob and was the largest black criminal organization of his time.

 

^^^ You don't obviously have to watch all of the video but the keypoints. They say the same thing I said with Matthews wanting to cut out the Italian Mafia.

 

You need to watch a Rick Ross interview and he will explain to you why the whole black mafia concept doesnt work

Okay end??? They don't work and yet there were still many of them after Rick Ross days. Black Mafia Family aka BMF of Detroit/Atlanta anyone? They don't work and yet they are still created?

 

Hell come even think their are some black criminal organizations in the Hip Hop industry like J Prince or Baby/Birdman...

Edited April 21, 2016 by The Made Man

[The Made Man]

 

 

Is it just me or doesn't the concept add anything new, besides the setting?

 

Taking over city piece by piece: AC games, GTA:SA, Saints Row etc.

 

Lieutenants: Saints Row 2 (even returning ones, like Vito in this game

 

The activities: GTA, SR

 

The story itself seems very generic so far to me. If the story won't be nearly as impressive as the previous Mafias, I'll pass for the coming years or so, or forever.

 

I'm negative about this one. Now I just hope they go bananas in an 80s drug miami setting in Mafia IV.

Wait so you claim the Mafia 3 story, setting and game play is generic and yet you want the next Mafia to take place in one of the most overused, cliche and generic settings in not just video games but entertainment as a whole and that setting being Scarface era Miami? Yeah no thanks.

 

For the next Mafia game I would like story around the Irish mob(since they are hardly giving their tale) or back to the Italian Mafia but this time early-mid 2000s something Sopranos esqus in New Jersey especially the suburbs.

Edited April 21, 2016 by The Made Man

[dudclub55]

Uuuummm... did anybody else think they were watching Watch Dogs footage for a good minute there?

That HUD is disgusting and doesn't fit in a 1960s themed game in any way...

[luisniko]

I'm negative about this one. Now I just hope they go bananas in an 80s drug miami setting in Mafia IV.

 

In Mafia IV, we will be playing an old, whining Vito and Joe, accompanied by a new weak whiny tough guy.

 

Then we will have Mafia Online where you do life-n-death works for peanuts to buy clothes and car paint.

[Zello]

back to the Italian Mafia but this time early-mid 2000s something Sopranos esqus in New Jersey especially the suburbs.

As much as I'd like to see a game like that I can't see them going to the late 90's early 00's it's too modern and would feel more like GTA and by that point the Mafia was pretty much dying. Most of the game would be talking with some action here and there

Edited April 22, 2016 by Zello

[The Made Man]

 

back to the Italian Mafia but this time early-mid 2000s something Sopranos esqus in New Jersey especially the suburbs.

As much as I'd like to see a game like that I can't see them going to the late 90's early 00's it's too modern and would feel more like GTA and by that point the Mafia was pretty much dying. Most of the game would be talking with some action here and there

 

Matter fact I got a good one! Maybe they should do a Mafia game in the roaring twenties in Atlantic city. To me that would be PERFECT. It would be Boardwalk Empire esque. And I loved that show. The game would basically be about the rise of the Italian mafia in the USA.

[chronic lumbago]

What exactly are you wanting from it? Does it need the ability to ride ponies or something to be unique?

 

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are these things called genres. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.

 

They're not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just making an action/shooting/driving game to cash in on the GTA style cash cow. It's business. It's generic for a reason. It will sell. Be negative all you want, that's the way the video game industry works.

All I want is a story that's going to be immersive, deep and interesting. That's all I nees from a mafia game. If they go for gameplay here, then add something new to the genre at least. Im not judging that it's gonna be a bad game, I'm just afraid I wont like it.

 

I'm on phone right now, I'll explain it when I'm home.

Edited April 22, 2016 by fashion

[thafablifee46]

 

 

Is it just me or doesn't the concept add anything new, besides the setting?

 

Taking over city piece by piece: AC games, GTA:SA, Saints Row etc.

 

Lieutenants: Saints Row 2 (even returning ones, like Vito in this game

 

The activities: GTA, SR

 

The story itself seems very generic so far to me. If the story won't be nearly as impressive as the previous Mafias, I'll pass for the coming years or so, or forever.

 

I'm negative about this one. Now I just hope they go bananas in an 80s drug miami setting in Mafia IV.

Wait so you claim the Mafia 3 story, setting and game play is generic and yet you want the next Mafia to take place in one of the most overused, cliche and generic settings in not just video games but entertainment as a whole and that setting being Scarface era Miami? Yeah no thanks.

 

For the next Mafia game I would like story around the Irish mob(since they are hardly giving their tale) or back to the Italian Mafia but this time early-mid 2000s something Sopranos esqus in New Jersey especially the suburbs.

It wouldnt be right to do the irish mob in any city besides boston lol

 

 

back to the Italian Mafia but this time early-mid 2000s something Sopranos esqus in New Jersey especially the suburbs.

As much as I'd like to see a game like that I can't see them going to the late 90's early 00's it's too modern and would feel more like GTA and by that point the Mafia was pretty much dying. Most of the game would be talking with some action here and there

Matter fact I got a good one! Maybe they should do a Mafia game in the roaring twenties in Atlantic city. To me that would be PERFECT. It would be Boardwalk Empire esque. And I loved that show. The game would basically be about the rise of the Italian mafia in the USA.

Yeah but if they go back to 1920s, they should add new york and new jersey. Atleast a replica of manhattan and new jersey. Like the great gatsby

[Mister Pink]

I was watching a video and apparently, there is an x-ray vision mode in this game that lets you see enemies through walls? I know most likely you will be able to disable it or just not use it but why would they put that type of sh*t in this game at all? The newest trailer put the game in a more positive light but I'm still worried that it'll be a very disappointing title. Nothing to do with the main character, story or sh*t. I could give a sh*t less if our main guy is an Italian or not. The gameplay is what worries me the most.

 

It's wire-tapping and it's called Intel-Vision, an idicator that you as a player sees because you can't actually be in the game yourself, they give a visual reference of what the protag understands based on the intelligence he has extracted via wiretap. Think if it as a visual representation of the protags "minds eye" based on intelligence gathering from wiretaps you can place.

 

Don't think of it like the player has magic X-Ray vision. It's not that.

 

For me, this looks like it's going to be the best Mafia game yet. I'm very impressed.

 

@The Made Man: I love Boardwalk Empire & The Sopranos and would love a game based them or those eras. Also, a game in Baltimore based on the gangs there and drugs trade with inspiration from The Wire.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Mister Pink

[einjzmolf]

So in some gamestop video they said something along the lines of.. if you steal a vehicle you can't keep it?

 

I'm sorry but if that's the case I won't even consider buying the game.

 

I loved finding sweet ass cars in some backlot in mafia 2 and picking the lock on it. Cruising it to a shop to change the plates then riding them back to the garage.

 

I spent so much time driving around scouting out carjacking spots and hitting up diners and filling my car up.

 

It'll be a serious shame if they decided to drop all the aspects that made Mafia/II unique, in favor of quicktime 'br00tal t4k3d0wnZ'

 

Fart.

[luisniko]

Maybe there will be a way to unlock a car. Maybe by getting a 'blueprint' and a mechanic will custom build it.

 

I just hope they don't follow that Grand Trade Auto's path or even "reach this point of story and you'll unlock this vehicle" method.

[dudclub55]

Maybe there will be a way to unlock a car. Maybe by getting a 'blueprint' and a mechanic will custom build it.

 

I just hope they don't follow that Grand Trade Auto's path or even "reach this point of story and you'll unlock this vehicle" method.

 

What I DO hope is that everything doesn't unlock from the start. Side missions and content should unlock as you play the game, not from the start.

It's shocking just how much this game looks like a Ubisoft one.

[ROCKSTAR MANIC]

This Game looks promising.. Will look into it now that R* isn't probably going to announce or release any new games this year.

[ARC8_1982]

Future never looked so bright as it is now , MIII and Kingdome Come and newest Deus Ex are my biggest hopes.

[UshaB]

God damn. Clay reminds me of Netflix Punisher.

Edited April 23, 2016 by UshaB

[Niobium]

I was watching a video and apparently, there is an x-ray vision mode in this game that lets you see enemies through walls? I know most likely you will be able to disable it or just not use it but why would they put that type of sh*t in this game at all? The newest trailer put the game in a more positive light but I'm still worried that it'll be a very disappointing title. Nothing to do with the main character, story or sh*t. I could give a sh*t less if our main guy is an Italian or not. The gameplay is what worries me the most.

 

i'm pretty sick of the "see through walls" cliche in stealth games.

[alex3]

I just pray to God they wont do a ''watchdogs'' and downgrade the graphics for some reason.

[Shane_Dbns]

God damn. Clay reminds me of Netflix Punisher.

To me, he looks like Russell Wilson

[Ivan1997GTA]

 

I was watching a video and apparently, there is an x-ray vision mode in this game that lets you see enemies through walls? I know most likely you will be able to disable it or just not use it but why would they put that type of sh*t in this game at all? The newest trailer put the game in a more positive light but I'm still worried that it'll be a very disappointing title. Nothing to do with the main character, story or sh*t. I could give a sh*t less if our main guy is an Italian or not. The gameplay is what worries me the most.

 

i'm pretty sick of the "see through walls" cliche in stealth games.

 

This is supposed to be an open-world sandbox game, not Metal Gear Solid or Batman: Arkham Asylum or Batman: Arkham City!

Edited April 23, 2016 by Ivan1997GTA

[dewtech]

Don't know if it's been said, but there was an Ad on the TV today for this so it looks like we finally have a release date of 07/10/2016

 

 

It's got to be towards a year since my pre-order went in!

[luisniko]

I just pray to God they wont do a ''watchdogs'' and downgrade the graphics for some reason.

 

Graphic downgrade isn't much of a matter for me.

 

While for quality wise, I'm not sure if 2K gonna let a game released at or below WatchDoges standard. But still, I'll wait for a leak or gameplay preview before buying.

[Dutch Psycho]

Don't know if it's been said, but there was an Ad on the TV today for this so it looks like we finally have a release date of 07/10/2016

 

 

It's got to be towards a year since my pre-order went in!

Ehh...the release date was already known. The release date came with the story trailer last tuesday. Edited April 23, 2016 by Dutch Psycho

[Zello]

The panel they had at Pax East today

 

4:03

 

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Part 7

Part 8 Edited April 24, 2016 by Zello

[einjzmolf]

Having a 'fleet' of vehicles is mentioned in Part 3. My expecation is that this means you can actually keep/earn vehicles.

[HaythamKenway]

The panel they had at Pax East today

(links)

Thanks for posting this!

 

William Harms, the lead writer. He also wrote Infamous 1 and 2. I never got the chance to play these games (PS3 exclusivity), but I've heard a lot of praise for their stories, especially for 2.

 

Ton of neat talk about the story, setting, historical context, characters and generally the inspiration behind it all. I especially really like how much they stress the internal politics in both Lincoln's and Marcano's organizations and the resulting intrigue and necessary balancing. I know, again, this is a thing that should not be judged before the game comes out. Games are often hyped to have complex, intriguing stories that in reality end up as bland yarns with flat characters and unengaging conflicts Halo f*cking 5, but my impression right now is definitely that these people know that they are making a Mafia game and the expectations that come with it. So, at least when it comes to the story focus, I don't worry about that at all.

Edited April 24, 2016 by HaythamKenway

[Jabalous]

 

I don't know how this game can relate to Mafia franchise. Mafia was interesting for being a mature, grounded and story-driven game, but this thing, Mafia 3, is nothing like it, and to top it all, it doesn't seems to add anything new to the genre let alone that it looks way below the standard in terms of the visuals and animations.

So far, I think the tone of the story sticks pretty close to the previous two games. They are tackling the themes of the era and retained the grounded, street level focus. You can still tell an engaging story in an open world game, those two aims don't necessarily oppose each other. We won't really know how the story turns out until the game is out anyway, but what they are saying - and what we got to see - feels right at home in the series for me. It doesn't even look like the kind and tone of story you'd see in a GTA game, post-TBoGT.

 

However, the presetation is very GTA. It's more in the traditional video game action porn territory, with overblown violence and flashy explosive gunfights, than the reserved action of previous games. But looking at the new gameplay video, I got a feeling that they toned it down a little since the reveal. Perhaps it was more in the choice of footage though, since the journalist also gushed about the brutality in the game, so who knows.

 

About the uniqueness, I think the game fills a surprisingly vacant niche, actually. In broader sense, how many crime open world games we have nowadays? Saints Row is a superhero game, Sleeping Dogs is in limbo, The Godfather is dead and GTA... well, that's a whole another dead horse beaten for the last three years, no point getting into that here. And, in more narrow sense, the Empire Building aspect of the game is something that no game really embraced since 2009's The Godfather II. So, that's another point for Mafia III.

 

 

I cannot easily adapt to the new story and the fact that it doesn't revolve around playing the adventures of a Mafioso, especially of an Italian descent. The game is taking a very different path as we're now leading the story of an African American whose main agenda is to seek revenge from the Mafia. We had enough of this cliche and it's not suitable for the world of Mafia franchise. The trailer reveals the protagonist in a Hulk-like manner with his rough voice and behavior and this is being reflected in the gameplay by filling it with meaningless explosions, shooting and running, car stunts and speeding.

 

There's no way to deny that the new game is drifting away from what the previous two titles have already established.

[The Made Man]

 

 

I don't know how this game can relate to Mafia franchise. Mafia was interesting for being a mature, grounded and story-driven game, but this thing, Mafia 3, is nothing like it, and to top it all, it doesn't seems to add anything new to the genre let alone that it looks way below the standard in terms of the visuals and animations.

So far, I think the tone of the story sticks pretty close to the previous two games. They are tackling the themes of the era and retained the grounded, street level focus. You can still tell an engaging story in an open world game, those two aims don't necessarily oppose each other. We won't really know how the story turns out until the game is out anyway, but what they are saying - and what we got to see - feels right at home in the series for me. It doesn't even look like the kind and tone of story you'd see in a GTA game, post-TBoGT.

 

However, the presetation is very GTA. It's more in the traditional video game action porn territory, with overblown violence and flashy explosive gunfights, than the reserved action of previous games. But looking at the new gameplay video, I got a feeling that they toned it down a little since the reveal. Perhaps it was more in the choice of footage though, since the journalist also gushed about the brutality in the game, so who knows.

 

About the uniqueness, I think the game fills a surprisingly vacant niche, actually. In broader sense, how many crime open world games we have nowadays? Saints Row is a superhero game, Sleeping Dogs is in limbo, The Godfather is dead and GTA... well, that's a whole another dead horse beaten for the last three years, no point getting into that here. And, in more narrow sense, the Empire Building aspect of the game is something that no game really embraced since 2009's The Godfather II. So, that's another point for Mafia III.

 

 

I cannot easily adapt to the new story and the fact that it doesn't revolve around playing the adventures of a Mafioso, especially of an Italian descent. The game is taking a very different path as we're now leading the story of an African American whose main agenda is to seek revenge from the Mafia. We had enough of this cliche and it's not suitable for the world of Mafia franchise. The trailer reveals the protagonist in a Hulk-like manner with his rough voice and behavior and this is being reflected in the gameplay by filling it with meaningless explosions, shooting and running, car stunts and speeding.

 

There's no way to deny that the new game is drifting away from what the previous two titles have already established.

 

 

 

Wait and the romance of Italian Mafia is not cliche???? Its one of the biggest cliche in Hollywood, entertainment and American culture as a whole. This storyline of a colored protagonist going against the Italian Mafia on some Punisher sh*t I find at least unique in video games. Plus adding the non and racial politics in game that is set in 60s New Orleans in the SOUTH I also find very unique and interesting as this has not been done in video games.

 

As for the bolded none of us even played the game to clarify. Just based off of one trailer. And Mafia 2(if you played the game) had a TON of explosions, car chases and speeding. What are you talking about. If anything Mafia 2 signaled the drifting away from the series...

Edited April 24, 2016 by The Made Man