Was Gta V the best R* Game This Gen?

[AnDReJ98]

No, RDR is and here's why:

 

1. Finished game (unlike V)

2. Equal focus on SP and MP (Unlike V only on MP)

3. More detailed map (Unlike V which has many unused, less detailed areas, p.s: city feels plastic in some areas)

4. Far better story (No words needed)

5. Better animals (Obviously)

6. Memorable characters (Same as above)

7. Plus it's released 3 years before V.

[PG.]

Far from it. IV and RDR were better IMO.

[Geralt of Rivia]

Lol @ 1 and 2 and how stupid those points are.

 

GTA V's not a finished game? I'd love for you to explain that to me.

 

Only focus is on MP? Lol again, not true.

[Detective Phelps]

Lol @ 1 and 2 and how stupid those points are.

 

GTA V's not a finished game? I'd love for you to explain that to me.

 

Only focus is on MP? Lol again, not true.

I agree with you on 1, GTA V is a finished game, but, like all games, it does have some bugs. Bugs

that can be taken care of easily in a few patches.

 

On 2, I'll have to agree with you, but only because he said that MP is R*'s only focus.

If he said that R* are focusing on the MP more than the SP, then I would agree with him.

 

Both SP and MP are getting attention, but Online is getting far more attention than SP, unfortunately.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department

[Official Destroyer]

It would be interesting to see, how many of the "No"-Voters are frustrated PC-Only-Gamer who never played the game at all.

 

No, RDR is and here's why:

 

1. Finished game (unlike V)

2. Equal focus on SP and MP (Unlike V only on MP)

3. More detailed map (Unlike V which has many unused, less detailed areas, p.s: city feels plastic in some areas)

4. Far better story (No words needed)

5. Better animals (Obviously)

6. Memorable characters (Same as above)

7. Plus it's released 3 years before V.

 

LOL.

Thank you, that gave me a good laugh.

[Ash_735]

It would be interesting to see, how many of the "No"-Voters are frustrated PC-Only-Gamer who never played the game at all.

I voted "No" and have played most of Rockstars Games this gen on both PS3 and PC. GTAV is fun, but the story just hurts it so much, and all the effort of GTAOnline just backfired when they had a good thing with RDR. GTAV is actually one of the few Rockstar games this generation I actually have no desire to replay because the story was average, missions were fun, but now we have Mission Replay to get straight to those, where as I've replayed GTA IV/EFLC, RDR and Max Payne 3 more than twice, and even finished L.A.Noire twice.

[Zee]

Honestly, this whole generation of games has been pretty depressing. Nothing really ever lived up to the glory of the ps2 days.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Zee

[Tilemaxx]

"No" voters percentage:

- Frustrated PC gamers.
- IV fans
- People that actually haven't played the game yet.
- Trolls

Content and quality wise, GTA V is probably the finest technical achievement ever. Check the "little things you didn't know about" thread. The amount of detail they 've put into the game is just ridiculous.

Honestly, this whole generation of games has been pretty depressing. Nothing really ever lived up to the glory of the ps2 days.

I second that. But GTA V and Last of Us were high above anything we 've seen those 8 years.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Tilemaxx

[Detective Phelps]

"No" voters percentage:

I voted no, and...

- Frustrated PC gamers. - Nope. I play on the PS3.

- IV fans - I like GTA V's gameplay more than IV's, and I like IV's story more than V's. I like IV and V, and I think that both games are good in their own way.

I have to say that RDR is R*'s best game last gen (with LA Noire being second, and GTA IV and V joint 3rd).

- People that actually haven't played the game yet. - I have played the game. I got it on the 17th of September!

- Trolls - I'm not redx165.

 

Content and quality wise, GTA V is probably the finest technical achievement ever. Check the "little things you didn't know about" thread. The amount of detail they put into the game is just ridiculous.

 

There is a lot of detail in GTA V, but same goes for RDR.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department

[Tilemaxx]

I've completed RDR, and i bought Undead Nightmare. The game is great but i can't say it's the best R* game this gen, not even second. For me it's GTA V, with IV as a runner-up.

RDR had an interesting concept, but too much empty wilderness and very little interactivity with the environment broke the deal for me.

[Kampioen]

The only Rockstar games I played on PS3 were GTA IV, RDR and GTA V, and out of those I think this was the best.

[cp1dell]

No. Of course not. Red Dead Redemption was easily Rockstar's best game of the last gen.

 

GTA V is not even among the best GTAs, let alone the best Rockstar game of anything. Even the once much criticized GTA IV is considered by a significant amount of people to be better than V, including myself.

Yeah, Red Dead Redemption was great. People know San Diego didn't think it would be well-received - but I've also heard that because of this thought process, they put a lot of work into making it "artsy" in a sort of way. It accomplished everything it set out to do.

 

I really wish GTA V would have taken the best things from IV, RDR, and MP3. That's what a lot of people were hoping for. They kind of did in a way, but half-assed it.

"No" voters percentage:

 

- Frustrated PC gamers.

- IV fans

- People that actually haven't played the game yet.

- Trolls

 

Content and quality wise, GTA V is probably the finest technical achievement ever. Check the "little things you didn't know about" thread. The amount of detail they 've put into the game is just ridiculous.

"Wahh! People can't have opinions! They suck!"

 

Jesus H Christ, man.

Edited May 9, 2014 by cp1dell

[Official Destroyer]

 

It would be interesting to see, how many of the "No"-Voters are frustrated PC-Only-Gamer who never played the game at all.

I voted "No" and have played most of Rockstars Games this gen on both PS3 and PC. GTAV is fun, but the story just hurts it so much, and all the effort of GTAOnline just backfired when they had a good thing with RDR. GTAV is actually one of the few Rockstar games this generation I actually have no desire to replay because the story was average, missions were fun, but now we have Mission Replay to get straight to those, where as I've replayed GTA IV/EFLC, RDR and Max Payne 3 more than twice, and even finished L.A.Noire twice.

 

That's Okay. Everyone has his own experience with this game and his own opinion. I have no problem with that.

 

But one point I do not understand: where does GTA IV or RDR have more replay value than V? In fact, you have actually more replay value in V thanks to the individual methods on/at (?) the heists, for example. Apart from the story missions you also have individual possibilities on random events like bringing people to the altruist cult or not (which I discovered just in my 2nd playthrough). You have much more variable playing style options than in any other of the mentioned games, I think.

 

"No" voters percentage:

 

- Frustrated PC gamers.

- IV fans

- People that actually haven't played the game yet.

- Trolls

 

Content and quality wise, GTA V is probably the finest technical achievement ever. Check the "little things you didn't know about" thread. The amount of detail they put into the game is just ridiculous.

 

 

 

True, It's sad to see some guys aren't able to appreciate the whole work Rockstar actually puts in those details.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Official Destroyer

[gbrown100]

RDR is slightly better IMO, and it's multiplayer is waaaaaaayyyy more balanced also (or at least it was before hackers took it down).

[VIPΣR]

Nah never!

In my opinion Red Dead Redemption was Rockstar's best game of last gen, it had a special feeling to it when I first played it, I can't explain it, John Marston's journey was, oh dear...

and his death was very emotional

, I almost cried like a baby.

GTA IV deserves the second place, because it was a huge improvement to the series. The story was very enjoyable and very good, the characters were very credible specially Niko, oh man I miss IV, in the other hand GTA V's story sucked. Atleast we had Trevor.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Undertaker13

[cp1dell]

But one point I do not understand: where does GTA IV or RDR have more replay value than V? In fact, you have actually more replay value in V thanks to the individual methods on/at (?) the heists, for example. Apart from the story missions you also have individual possibilities on random events like bringing people to the altruist cult or not (which I discovered just in my 2nd playthrough). You have much more variable playing style options than in any other of the mentioned games, I think.

IV+EFLC and RDR have a lot more repayable activities. The vigilante/gang wars/drug wars in IV+EFLC could be repeated again and again, always at a randomized location, the enemies getting tougher the more you complete - along with RDR's bounty hunter missions. Whereas in V the bounty hunter missions are limited to six. The random events in RDR also happened at randomized locations, with actual random events. In V, there are too many "special" random events that are basically missions with no cutscenes - or the occasional "random event" that happens at the same location, with the same ped, with the same event, every time.

 

Yeah, V is a great game and it has a lot of nice detail. I love it. But there's so much in V that came from IV, RDR, and MP3 that was half-assed for some reason.

[sash2k4plus]

I'd choose GTA IV or RDR over GTA V any day. Not because of nostalgia, but because of the better story lines and environment imo.

[Official General]

Lol @ 1 and 2 and how stupid those points are.

GTA V's not a finished game? I'd love for you to explain that to me.

Only focus is on MP? Lol again, not true.

You have just insulted Andre's opinions by clearly labelling them as "stupid", and at the same time you moan about me doing the same thing, saying I'm always insulting others opinions. Yet it's ok when you do it ? I can't stand big, blatant hypocrites like you.

 

 

It would be interesting to see, how many of the "No"-Voters are frustrated PC-Only-Gamer who never played the game at all.

 

I voted "No" and have played most of Rockstars Games this gen on both PS3 and PC. GTAV is fun, but the story just hurts it so much, and all the effort of GTAOnline just backfired when they had a good thing with RDR. GTAV is actually one of the few Rockstar games this generation I actually have no desire to replay because the story was average, missions were fun, but now we have Mission Replay to get straight to those, where as I've replayed GTA IV/EFLC, RDR and Max Payne 3 more than twice, and even finished L.A.Noire twice.

 

That's Okay. Everyone has his own experience with this game and his own opinion. I have no problem with that.

 

But one point I do not understand: where does GTA IV or RDR have more replay value than V? In fact, you have actually more replay value in V thanks to the individual methods on/at (?) the heists, for example. Apart from the story missions you also have individual possibilities on random events like bringing people to the altruist cult or not (which I discovered just in my 2nd playthrough). You have much more variable playing style options than in any other of the mentioned games, I think.

 

"No" voters percentage:

- Frustrated PC gamers.

- IV fans

- People that actually haven't played the game yet.

- Trolls

Content and quality wise, GTA V is probably the finest technical achievement ever. Check the "little things you didn't know about" thread. The amount of detail they put into the game is just ridiculous.

 

True, It's sad to see some guys aren't able to appreciate the whole work Rockstar actually puts in those details.

@ Official Destroyer

 

Why can't you just accept that a significant amount of people don't V is that great ? Why do you need to grill people who prefer IV and RDR over V. I don't know how clearer this can be, but V indeed was quite a letdown for many GTA fans. It's nothing to do with nostalgia, hate, or fanboyism, it's purely down to the fact this game did not meet it's expectations for many. Is it really that hard to accept?

[Geralt of Rivia]

No, I tell you to not insult people. Remember in the IV vs. V debate, where you said Biohazard wasn't intelligent enough to understand what you were saying? Exactly.

 

I never mentioned you insulting opinions. You do that way too much for me to say anything about it.

 

Anyway, stop going off-topic. If you want to say anything, PM me.

 

OT: I still think it is, although I can definitely see why people think RDR is better.

[Official Destroyer]

 

But one point I do not understand: where does GTA IV or RDR have more replay value than V? In fact, you have actually more replay value in V thanks to the individual methods on/at (?) the heists, for example. Apart from the story missions you also have individual possibilities on random events like bringing people to the altruist cult or not (which I discovered just in my 2nd playthrough). You have much more variable playing style options than in any other of the mentioned games, I think.

IV+EFLC and RDR have a lot more repayable activities. The vigilante/gang wars/drug wars in IV+EFLC could be repeated again and again, always at a randomized location, the enemies getting tougher the more you complete - along with RDR's bounty hunter missions. Whereas in V the bounty hunter missions are limited to six. The random events in RDR also happened at randomized locations, with actual random events. In V, there are too many "special" random events that are basically missions with no cutscenes - or the occasional "random event" that happens at the same location, with the same ped, with the same event, every time.

 

 

To be fair, I haven't played EFLC yet (shame on me) so I can't really judge those games. But don't you think it's a bit unfair to compare IV+EFLC together with one single game? Correct me, if I'm misunderstanding something. Anyway, I'm hoping for the SP DLC to have more assassination missions and lots of other stuff...

 

Btw. while we're on it... can someone help me with a problem? I'm at a point where I can't find the last E-mail from Maude with a picture of the location of my next victim on Trevors smartphone. What do I have to do now?

[cp1dell]

Regardless of EFLC, IV still had replayable activities - and a lot more expanded activities. All the stuff that was always in GTA like stealing unique cars is gone, or only in the game for a couple missions.

 

About the E-Mail, if it automatically got deleted you're going to have to look up bounty locations online and visit each of those until you find the one active in your game.

[Sunrise Driver]

No, RDR is and here's why:

 

1. Finished game (unlike V)

2. Equal focus on SP and MP (Unlike V only on MP)

3. More detailed map (Unlike V which has many unused, less detailed areas, p.s: city feels plastic in some areas)

4. Far better story (No words needed)

5. Better animals (Obviously)

6. Memorable characters (Same as above)

7. Plus it's released 3 years before V.

1. Elaborate.

2. V's SP is pretty solid.

3. Troll? RDR's map is less detailed than GTASA terrain.

4. No.

5. No.

6. V's characters are memorable unlike RDR ones.

7. Yep, it was a tech demo for V's Blaine County.

[Official Destroyer]

@ Official Destroyer

 

Why can't you just accept that a significant amount of people don't V is that great ? Why do you need to grill people who prefer IV and RDR over V. I don't know how clearer this can be, but V indeed was quite a letdown for many GTA fans. It's nothing to do with nostalgia, hate, or fanboyism, it's purely down to the fact this game did not meet it's expectations for many. Is it really that hard to accept?

 

 

What is your problem exactly? I never said that I don't accept people who don't like the game. I said that I, personally, find it sad that some people don't have such a good experience with that game like other people. And that's all. What's so hard to understand that?

Anyway, it's nothing new that there are people who like a game and those who don't - so what? This happens to every video game. There is NO game out there in this world which pleases every single one. Except something like Tetris maybe, idk.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Official Destroyer

[SingularSoul]

No. Of course not. Red Dead Redemption was easily Rockstar's best game of the last gen.

 

GTA V is not even among the best GTAs, let alone the best Rockstar game of anything. Even the once much criticized GTA IV is considered by a significant amount of people to be better than V, including myself.

This.

RDR, LA. Noire, Max Payne 3 and to some extent GTA IV were all superior R* titles this Gen.

Edited May 10, 2014 by SingularSoul

[Official General]

 

@ Official Destroyer

 

Why can't you just accept that a significant amount of people don't V is that great ? Why do you need to grill people who prefer IV and RDR over V. I don't know how clearer this can be, but V indeed was quite a letdown for many GTA fans. It's nothing to do with nostalgia, hate, or fanboyism, it's purely down to the fact this game did not meet it's expectations for many. Is it really that hard to accept?

 

 

What is your problem exactly? I never said that I don't accept people who don't like the game. I said that I, personally, find it sad that some people don't have such a good experience with that game like other people. And that's all. What's so hard to understand that?

Anyway, it's nothing new that there are people who like a game and those who don't - so what? This happens to every video game. There is NO game out there in this world which pleases every single one. Except something like Tetris maybe, idk.

 

 

You never put it across like that. You said you found it so hard to understand why quite a number of people felt IV and RDR had more replay value over V. To me, that indicated that you appeared to have some kind of a problem accepting this. Not everyone has to give a detailed reason, but you have been on here long enough to see the many reasons why some people felt that IV and RDR had more replay value. It's not always about quantity (which V has a lot of), it's about quality, and that probably answers your original question. I personally did not care about how many ways there were to complete heists, because most of the heists were not that exciting, and the planning part of it actually quite basic and nothing special. As for random events linked to mini-missions, they exist in both IV and RDR, so V having them is nothing groundbreaking to add to the gameplay. IV offers much more replay value since it has a better range of crime related side missions that are either infinite or replayable many times using a variety of methods - dealing and delivering drugs for Little Jacob, stealing cars for import/export for Brucie, and the Police database vigilante missions. On top of that, you could call armed back up to follow you around while doing all of these side missions. V hardly had any crime side missions and no armed back up feature, and the few that were there with Trevor were very short-lived. RDR had the amazing wildlife with it's animal hunting, the beautiful wilderness to explore, infinite varied random events, numerous bounty missions, gold treasure hunts, card games, side missions etc. There are many reasons to see why many felt IV and RDR had more replay value than V.

[theGTAking101]

No.

 

GTA IV will always be my favorite. I also loved RDR & L.A. Noire.

[Trevorphilipjfry]

I really don't understand how people keep saying IV Is the best Rockstar game this gen.

It was so poor, and a massive step back from SA, I'm glad they went back to their roots with V.

 

And when people say IV, do they mean EFLC, which is what I think people are suggesting. EFLC can only be compared with V, once the SP DLC comes out

[Algonquin Assassin]

I really don't understand how people keep saying IV Is the best Rockstar game this gen.

It was so poor, and a massive step back from SA, I'm glad they went back to their roots with V.

And when people say IV, do they mean EFLC, which is what I think people are suggesting. EFLC can only be compared with V, once the SP DLC comes out

Well I don't understand why people keep saying GTA V, RDR etc are R*s best games. Damn people and their opinions. Oh..

 

Personally speaking I never factor in EFLC. GTA IV is great enough on its own.

[ThaBirdCoot]

No.

[Tycek]

I just love how people are saying that V went back to GTA roots, when they personally don't have an idea what that even means. Another empty slogan making the V defenders even more "sophisticated" and better.