Doc Rikowski Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These transfer sums are getting lame now. I heard Fiorentina wants 43 Million for some back I've never even heard of.. clubs should just boycot that sort of bullsh*t amounts for those kind of players. I'm sorry, but if you've never heard of Juan Cuadrado you're not that much into football, are you? He's been magnificent for Fiorentina over the last two years and is one of (if not) the best winger in the Serie A. I agree though that €43m is too much. I'm very into football. Not very into Serie A. Eredivisie/Bundesliga/La Liga/Premier League and Ligue 1 I follow, not a fan of the Serie A. As much as Serie A lost a bit of quality in the past decade it is also true that modern club football, for good or bad, has started there in the 80s when Serie A was unanimously considered the best national championship in the world. At some point by the end of the decade absolutely all top players were in Serie A. Italian teams were the first to hire top quality foreign players in the 80s and the first to pay to them very high salaries. Believe it or not the main responsible for this was nevertheless Mr Berlusconi himself as president of AC Milan. This modernization in club football lead to a 25 years long series of successes in European cups between 1980 to 2005: 6CL (11 finalists), 4 CWC (6 finalists), 7EL (13 finalists and 4 all Italian finals). At the same time the "3 foreigners" limit for players allowed many smaller clubs to win the Serie A and even European Cups, something unimaginable today: Naples, Roma, Verona, Sampdoria in the 80s — Lazio, Parma and Roma again in the 90s and beginning of the 00's. The state of Serie A today is a clear consequence of its glorious past. The big money, the big players, it all ended up collapsing. And that is going to happen sooner or later also in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Football is declining in Italy to be honest, no world class players anymore. I've seen a few Serie A matches and the atmosphere was bland and the stadiums empty. LA Liga would have collapsed by now if it wasn't for Barca or Real and (to an extent) Atletico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLand Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 €20m for a 30 year old CB. Well done Barca... I am so happy, I hope Zubizarreta and FC Barcelona's president Bartomeu stay forever! He looks like he is 50. No wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Barca sure know how to spend money. First center back in five years and he's 30 and sh*te. Edited July 23, 2014 by DarthShinobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 These transfer sums are getting lame now. I heard Fiorentina wants 43 Million for some back I've never even heard of.. clubs should just boycot that sort of bullsh*t amounts for those kind of players. I'm sorry, but if you've never heard of Juan Cuadrado you're not that much into football, are you? He's been magnificent for Fiorentina over the last two years and is one of (if not) the best winger in the Serie A. I agree though that €43m is too much. I'm very into football. Not very into Serie A. Eredivisie/Bundesliga/La Liga/Premier League and Ligue 1 I follow, not a fan of the Serie A. As much as Serie A lost a bit of quality in the past decade it is also true that modern club football, for good or bad, has started there in the 80s when Serie A was unanimously considered the best national championship in the world. At some point by the end of the decade absolutely all top players were in Serie A. Italian teams were the first to hire top quality foreign players in the 80s and the first to pay to them very high salaries. Believe it or not the main responsible for this was nevertheless Mr Berlusconi himself as president of AC Milan. This modernization in club football lead to a 25 years long series of successes in European cups between 1980 to 2005: 6CL (11 finalists), 4 CWC (6 finalists), 7EL (13 finalists and 4 all Italian finals). At the same time the "3 foreigners" limit for players allowed many smaller clubs to win the Serie A and even European Cups, something unimaginable today: Naples, Roma, Verona, Sampdoria in the 80s — Lazio, Parma and Roma again in the 90s and beginning of the 00's. The state of Serie A today is a clear consequence of its glorious past. The big money, the big players, it all ended up collapsing. And that is going to happen sooner or later also in other countries. The times of Shevchenko and Kaka in their prime at Milan, Adriano at Inter, Van Basten and Gullit at Milan were a reason to watch Serie A. I know Italian clubs are performing well, but no true topstars play there for a long time anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Barca sure know how to spend money. First center back in five years and he's 30 and sh*te. Atleast, he isn't worth 100 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista J Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 At least Bale and Neymar have marketability. Who wants to see that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I agree, the transfer is pretty lame. We should be signing a world class defender ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Mathieu from Valencia CF signs for FC Barcelona. Cost: 20m€ €20m for a 30 year old CB. Well done Barca... He looks like he is 50. he definitely doesn't look healthy, did he really pass the medical? christ.. Der_Don and Vercetti42 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't mind him being used as a backup but judging by the price it looks as though he is going to make the first team... And if we're going to use him as a backup after paying 20 million, that is going to make things worse. Things are looking very bad for us. Edited July 23, 2014 by Vercetti42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If anything wouldn't the decline of Serie A, bring about a change in club policies of developing players rather than buying in? Also I don't think the corruption and match fixing ever helped the league either. That plus the ultras who have forced some teams to play without crowds! I think it's also a case of the french and german leagues getting more investment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rikowski Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 There is a huge amount of things that need to be changed in Italian football but right now there isn't the political will. Not only the politicians' will but also the will of the ones who actually run the FIGC (Italian Football Association) and the League. There are FIGC elections soon and the candidates are two: one from the usual political establishment and the other one is former player Albertini, an honest man who loves the sport. I'd love for him to win it but it will be very hard. The ultras are another huge problem. As huge as hooligans in England in the 80s. Possibly worse than that. Among the clubs the only one projected in the future is Juventus. Attention to the economical aspect, to the youth sector and Italian players. The only club in Italy, and the first one, to own a stadium. Others seem now following Juve steps: Roma, Cagliari... It's a long way to go. A J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Albertini as in the legendary AC Milan midfielder? What a player he was in the day, him and Boban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 We've just beat LA Galaxy 7-0. Pre-season game yes but you can already see the changes van Gaal is making. Ander Herrera is some player, watch out for him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoumaker Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Liverpool lost to Roma, couldn't watch the game since my net was being abysmal. Anyone here seen it? Not so happy with the pre-season results so far. Was also hoping we'd pick up some defenders too, we'll see in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der_Don Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Not so happy with the pre-season results so far. Wait until we play against you at Anfield in August. We will absolutely destroy you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLand Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 So today the new 14/15 season matches will be anounced for La Liga and Second Division. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A J Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Liverpool lost to Roma, couldn't watch the game since my net was being abysmal. Anyone here seen it? Not so happy with the pre-season results so far. Was also hoping we'd pick up some defenders too, we'll see in time. Highlights of it. Emre Can is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoumaker Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Yeah I've heard good things about him from others too, people are calling him the next Zidane and sh*t already, those people shouldn't get too excited yet. It's only the pre-season. Edited July 24, 2014 by Shoumic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rikowski Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Albertini as in the legendary AC Milan midfielder? What a player he was in the day, him and Boban Yes it's him. And be careful with Roma. They are owned by an American billionaire now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey. Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Not so happy with the pre-season results so far. Wait until we play against you at Anfield in August. We will absolutely destroy you guys You f*cking what mate And for those of you talking about pre season results and who is impressing so far...............who gives a f*ck. Edited July 24, 2014 by Hodgey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well pre-reason results can mean something, sometimes. United lost their first pre-season game under Moyes last year and ended up losing pretty much everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey. Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well pre-reason results can mean something, sometimes. United lost their first pre-season game under Moyes last year and ended up losing pretty much everything. Didn't Palace win their first pre season game this year 13 - 0? Means that they must be the favourites for the Prem this year then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti42 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I said "sometimes"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey. Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I said "sometimes"... Why cant the Palace result mean anything then? The pre season means f*ck all for every team in terms of results. Der_Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 We're not doing an Asian/American tour this year, just staying in Europe playing the likes of Werder Bremen, Real Sociedad and Vitesse Arnhem, and some other teams you've probably never heard of. I was kind of surprised really, but it could play into our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I cucked Alex Jones Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Classy Edited July 24, 2014 by Nipperkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The pre season means f*ck all for every team in terms of results. Yeah results don't mean much against the smaller teams. I like pre-season though, you get a chance to see the youngsters get a chance, new players, new formations and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyn Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) The pre season means f*ck all for every team in terms of results. Yeah results don't mean much against the smaller teams. I like pre-season though, you get a chance to see the youngsters get a chance, new players, new formations and tactics. This. Herrera was man of the match last night, can't wait to watch him play this season. And who cares if it means nothing, it's football. I needed my fix. Edited July 24, 2014 by rhyn Banks. and FranklinDeRoosevelt 2 SRS Incorporated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0X1C Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'm just glad to see passes going forward again tbh. Get Vidal and at least 1 CB and we're sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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