...::[The Footy Desk]::... (Part 1)

[SouthLand]

Tamudo saved our ass once again. TAMUDAZO!

 

 

[Hodgey.]

 

I did quite thoroughly enjoy Jose Mourinho's post match take down of Jamie Redknapp though.

 

Has anyone got a link to this? I missed it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYx1g048_C4

 

 

 

So last night Suarez won the PFA Player Of The Year and Haard ended up winning the PFA Young Player Of The Year award.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[GTA_stu]

PFA and PFA young player went to the right players imo.

 

Also another thing to bear in mind about our tactics and game plan yesterday is we have a huge game on wednesday. Sure they obviously helped defensively and we'd have probably set up quite similarly whatever the situation, but the tactics also massively helped in terms of not wearing ourselves out and allowing our players to conserve their energy. Getting in a slugging match, a game of high intensity football really wasn't to our advantage at all. Our squad is already stretched, quite a few of the players that played against Liverpool will have to play a massive 90 minute, maybe more, game only 3 days later. So saving our energy was a big part of yesterday.

[SouthLand]

What team do you guys want to see in the Final?

 

[Banks.]

Chelsea done well yesterday, f*ck all that 'but Chelsea didn't deserve it because they parked the bus and Liverpool deserved to win because they were playing the better football' bullsh*t. It's not about playing good football it's about getting results on the table. Yes it's nice to see a team playing pretty football but Mourinho knew he couldn't match them since he played a weakened side. He knew Liverpool would get frustrated if Chelsea played more defensive and Liverpool would be vulnerable on the counter attack. Of course Mourinho will get zero credit and get blasted in the media for it but I don't think he cares much since Chelsea won.

[Hodgey.]

Mourinho criticisied by the media? It's a bloddy wank fest from Townsend and some of the Sky Sports pundits at the minute.

One of the few reasons I think certain people have been critical of Chelsea and Mourinho the last couple of games is becuase when he does it it's classed as a stroke of genius and being a tatical mastermind. However when Tony Pulis etc does it he was ruining the game. I've seen numerous posts by people in this topic criticising the way Tony Pulis etc played while he was at Stoke. Mourinho has also complained about other teams in the past about how they weren't playing and where just parking the bus e.g West Ham and Spurs games come to mind.

PFA and PFA young player went to the right players imo.

 

I would of given the PFA Young Player award to Sturridge, however I cant say that Hazard doesn't deserve it either has he has had a great season also.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[Der_Don]

What team do you guys want to see in the Final?

 

Real Madrid please.

[SouthLand]

 

What team do you guys want to see in the Final?

 

Real Madrid please.

 

 

Bro, every time I see your Avatar I remember this song:

 

 

Edited April 28, 2014 by SouthLand

[I cucked Alex Jones]

A Madrid derby final would be interesting to watch. (if the referee in the match can control the pricks and the divers)

[SouthLand]

A Madrid derby final would be interesting to watch. (if the referee in the match can control the pricks and the divers)

 

No, FC Barcelona is not playing.

[Banks.]

Mourinho criticisied by the media? It's a bloddy wank fest from Townsend and some of the Sky Sports pundits at the minute.

 

One of the few reasons I think certain people have been critical of Chelsea and Mourinho the last couple of games is becuase when he does it it's classed as a stroke of genius and being a tatical mastermind. However when Tony Pulis etc does it he was ruining the game. I've seen numerous posts by people in this topic criticising the way Tony Pulis etc played while he was at Stoke. Mourinho has also complained about other teams in the past about how they weren't playing and where just parking the bus e.g West Ham and Spurs games come to mind.

Tony Pulis at Stoke City didn't really get the results in the end. He did have a couple of good seasons but then Stoke started to do crap under him. He's doing an excellent job at Palace and getting the credit he deserves, I would put him up as a contender for manager of the year.

 

At the end of the day, the difference between Mourinho and Pulis is Mourinho has won two European cups and numerous league titles across Europe. Mourinho also has a past of playing attacking football while Pulis has always been known for playing defensive and direct.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Tommy.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

All the Palace matches I've watched, Palace played some good football. Strong defensively, deadly on the break. They have some good attacking players though.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Nipperkins

[Hodgey.]

 

Mourinho criticisied by the media? It's a bloddy wank fest from Townsend and some of the Sky Sports pundits at the minute.

 

One of the few reasons I think certain people have been critical of Chelsea and Mourinho the last couple of games is becuase when he does it it's classed as a stroke of genius and being a tatical mastermind. However when Tony Pulis etc does it he was ruining the game. I've seen numerous posts by people in this topic criticising the way Tony Pulis etc played while he was at Stoke. Mourinho has also complained about other teams in the past about how they weren't playing and where just parking the bus e.g West Ham and Spurs games come to mind.

Tony Pulis at Stoke City didn't really get the results in the end. He did have a couple of good seasons but then Stoke started to do crap under him. He's doing an excellent job at Palace and getting the credit he deserves, I would put him up as a contender for manager of the year.

 

At the end of the day, the difference between Mourinho and Pulis is Mourinho has won two European cups and numerous league titles across Europe. Mourinho also has a past of playing attacking football while Pulis has always been known for playing defensive and direct.

 

 

I understand why people never liked the way that Tony Pulis played but you cant say he didn't get them results. He took them from being a mid table Championship team to being a mid table Premiership team that didn't look like ever getting relegated, aswell as taking them to a final of the FA Cup plus they played in the Europa League due to that. Was Pulis ever going to take Stoke to the CL no and I dont think 99% of managers could do that with the budget that Stoke have to work with.

 

Granted Mourinho has won more than Pulis ever will, but then again he's managed clubs that are much bigger than Stoke with alot more money than they have. My original point wasn't that Mourinho doesn't play attacking football, as like you said he has done in the past and for part of this season.

 

The original point was (I just used Pulis as a example, I was never comparing his and Mourinho's careers) that the past two games he hasn't played attackive football at all and the media hasn't come close to criticising him for it. Mourinho himself has even criticised managers that have played the way he is doing at the moment, saying it was 20th Century football etc. Now if that was any other manager like Pulis, Allardyce etc then the media wouldn't be calling it a "masterplan" like they have for the past week or so. I'm not saying Mourinho was wrong to do so, but the media would never get on Mourinho's back for his style and give him zero credit like you said would happen. If you turn on SSN now I gurantee they'd be having a hard on for him and saying what a genius he is. It's a double standard by fans and media alike.

 

Of course Mourinho will get zero credit and get blasted in the media for it but I don't think he cares much since Chelsea won.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[Banks.]

 

 

Mourinho criticisied by the media? It's a bloddy wank fest from Townsend and some of the Sky Sports pundits at the minute.

 

One of the few reasons I think certain people have been critical of Chelsea and Mourinho the last couple of games is becuase when he does it it's classed as a stroke of genius and being a tatical mastermind. However when Tony Pulis etc does it he was ruining the game. I've seen numerous posts by people in this topic criticising the way Tony Pulis etc played while he was at Stoke. Mourinho has also complained about other teams in the past about how they weren't playing and where just parking the bus e.g West Ham and Spurs games come to mind.

Tony Pulis at Stoke City didn't really get the results in the end. He did have a couple of good seasons but then Stoke started to do crap under him. He's doing an excellent job at Palace and getting the credit he deserves, I would put him up as a contender for manager of the year.

 

At the end of the day, the difference between Mourinho and Pulis is Mourinho has won two European cups and numerous league titles across Europe. Mourinho also has a past of playing attacking football while Pulis has always been known for playing defensive and direct.

 

 

I understand why people never liked the way that Tony Pulis played but you cant say he didn't get them results. He took them from being a mid table Championship team to being a mid table Premiership team that didn't look like ever getting relegated, aswell as taking them to a final of the FA Cup plus they played in the Europa League due to that. Was Pulis ever going to take Stoke to the CL no and I dont think 99% of managers could do that with the budget that Stoke have to work with.

 

Granted Mourinho has won more than Pulis ever will, but then again he's managed clubs that are much bigger than Stoke with alot more money than they have. My original point wasn't that Mourinho doesn't play attacking football, as like you said he has done in the past and for part of this season.

 

The original point was (I just used Pulis as a example, I was never comparing his and Mourinho's careers) that the past two games he hasn't played attackive football at all and the media hasn't come close to criticising him for it. Mourinho himself has even criticised managers that have played the way he is doing at the moment, saying it was 20th Century football etc. Now if that was any other manager like Pulis, Allardyce etc then the media wouldn't be calling it a "masterplan" like they have for the past week or so. I'm not saying Mourinho was wrong to do so, but the media would never get on Mourinho's back for his style and give him zero credit like you said would happen. If you turn on SSN now I gurantee they'd be having a hard on for him and saying what a genius he is. It's a double standard by fans and media alike.

 

Of course Mourinho will get zero credit and get blasted in the media for it but I don't think he cares much since Chelsea won.

 

I said 'in the end' Stoke started to drop off under Pulis. They needed a fresh manager to come in and I think Pulis needed a new team to manage and Palace are perfect for him. He did do a brilliant job at Stoke, nobody wanted to play Stoke at the Britannia. I won't be surprised if Pulis gets Palace top 10 and a trophy next season.

I know you weren't comparing their careers, my point was Mourinho has the freedom of playing defensive since he's won major trophies playing attacking football while Pulis is more of a defensive manager who likes to play direct football. Nothing wrong with it, it's tactics that are there to be used but it's definitely better when managers mix it up.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Tommy.

[Vercetti42]

What is this all about?

 

Edited April 28, 2014 by AceKingston

[I cucked Alex Jones]

Liverpool fans are the worst. Makes the media dick riding Liverpool even more annoying.

[Hodgey.]

@Tommy I think we have our wires crossed, as my point was solely about how the media has reacted. Whereas I think your talking about how he has set up his team these past couple of weeks from a football standpoint only

 

Liverpool fans are the worst. Makes the media dick riding Liverpool even more annoying.

 

Why, what the f*ck have we done now?

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[I cucked Alex Jones]

Some, not all, Liverpool supporters act like it's their God given right to be top of English Football. Not to mention reading all the YNWA sh*t

 

The comment about Arsenal was a joke btw, before anyone jumps down my throat for it.

[Josh]

I understand why people never liked the way that Tony Pulis played but you cant say he didn't get them results. He took them from being a mid table Championship team to being a mid table Premiership team that didn't look like ever getting relegated, aswell as taking them to a final of the FA Cup plus they played in the Europa League due to that. Was Pulis ever going to take Stoke to the CL no and I dont think 99% of managers could do that with the budget that Stoke have to work with.

 

Granted Mourinho has won more than Pulis ever will, but then again he's managed clubs that are much bigger than Stoke with alot more money than they have. My original point wasn't that Mourinho doesn't play attacking football, as like you said he has done in the past and for part of this season.

Over the past 5 seasons Stoke have had a higher net transfer spend than anyone but Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City (£90million or so). They may not be a club run by a tycoon but they are not at a loss by a man with a net worth of around £750million. He bought the club in 2006 with the target of Premier League football and since then has invested heavily on players.

 

Pulis did not manage the team effectively when they were in the Premier League. Following two seasons of consolidation, and a season where they reached the FA Cup final, there followed 2 seasons of stagnation where they conceded more goals than before whilst scoring the same or less. They also flirted with relegation in both of his last two seasons there before ultimately securing safety. I think that the owner and fans are pretty entitled to demand a little more in return for their investments.

 

I'm not sure where all the stuff about Stoke having a small budget comes from really. If I were a manager I would definitely be scouting around the Stoke job over jobs at places like Newcastle and Everton, which do live within their means in transfer terms.

[Hodgey.]

Some, not all, Liverpool supporters act like it's their God given right to be top of English Football. Not to mention reading all the YNWA sh*t

 

The comment about Arsenal was a joke btw, before anyone jumps down my throat for it.

 

No idea what Arsenal comment you are talking about.

 

Secondly no one has said anything about Liverpool should be top of the league or YNWA in this topic. We've had more freaky paintings of Aaron Ramsey posted in here than that.

 

 

I understand why people never liked the way that Tony Pulis played but you cant say he didn't get them results. He took them from being a mid table Championship team to being a mid table Premiership team that didn't look like ever getting relegated, aswell as taking them to a final of the FA Cup plus they played in the Europa League due to that. Was Pulis ever going to take Stoke to the CL no and I dont think 99% of managers could do that with the budget that Stoke have to work with.

 

Granted Mourinho has won more than Pulis ever will, but then again he's managed clubs that are much bigger than Stoke with alot more money than they have. My original point wasn't that Mourinho doesn't play attacking football, as like you said he has done in the past and for part of this season.

Over the past 5 seasons Stoke have had a higher net transfer spend than anyone but Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City (£90million or so). They may not be a club run by a tycoon but they are not at a loss by a man with a net worth of around £750million. He bought the club in 2006 with the target of Premier League football and since then has invested heavily on players.

 

Pulis did not manage the team effectively when they were in the Premier League. Following two seasons of consolidation, and a season where they reached the FA Cup final, there followed 2 seasons of stagnation where they conceded more goals than before whilst scoring the same or less. They also flirted with relegation in both of his last two seasons there before ultimately securing safety. I think that the owner and fans are pretty entitled to demand a little more in return for their investments.

 

I'm not sure where all the stuff about Stoke having a small budget comes from really. If I were a manager I would definitely be scouting around the Stoke job over jobs at places like Newcastle and Everton, which do live within their means in transfer ters.

 

I dont give a sh*t about Stoke. That wasn't the point to begin with so I aint going to keep talking about Stoke after this. They have a high "net spend" because they sell players for nothing. If you look at the the money they spent on players coming in they are around where they should of been, perhaps a couple of places higher would of been more suitable.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

I just need to Arsenal this place up a bit, too much United City and Liverpool.

 

I never said all Liverpool supporters are like that, just a sizable minority all around media.

[Josh]

I dont give a sh*t about Stoke. That wasn't the point to begin with so I aint going to keep talking about Stoke.

 

So what was the point then? You said that Pulis performed well given the fact that he had a small budget -- I merely said that he had a large budget to work with and actually underperformed relative to that since their budget puts them in the top half -- certainly not where Pulis ever looked like taking them. With that in mind I think my post relates directly to quite a few of the points that you made, and I don't understand why you got so worked up about it to be quite honest.

[Hodgey.]

I never said all Liverpool supporters are like that, just a sizable minority all around media.

 

I know, I just said that no Liverpool fans here have said anything like that from my recollection.

 

I dont give a sh*t about Stoke. That wasn't the point to begin with so I aint going to keep talking about Stoke.

 

 

So what was the point then? You said that Pulis performed well given the fact that he had a small budget -- I merely said that he had a large budget to work with and actually underperformed relative to that since their budget puts them in the top half -- certainly not where Pulis ever looked like taking them. With that in mind I think my post relates directly to quite a few of the points that you made, and I don't understand why you got so worked up about it to be quite honest.

 

I used Tony Pulis playing style as a example further up the page, I wasn't trying to talk about Stoke Football Club in general..

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[Mr Rabbit]

Mourinho criticisied by the media? It's a bloddy wank fest from Townsend and some of the Sky Sports pundits at the minute.

 

One of the few reasons I think certain people have been critical of Chelsea and Mourinho the last couple of games is

No it is because the media mostly want Liverpool to win more than Chelsea. Sky sports seem partial Liverpool and manchester United mostly

[Hodgey.]

Newcastle really do look terrible.

 

 

What is this all about?

 

Paddy Power put it there probably so that media outlets would run with the story and give them some free publicity.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Hodgey.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

What could have been.

[Girish]

Well, it looks like Arsenal have all but wrapped up the 4th spot. Would have actually fancied seeing Everton in the CL because, lets face it, we all know Arsenal isn't going to make it past the round of 16 anyways.

[I cucked Alex Jones]

(0-4 0-3) (0-4 0-3) (0-2 1-1) We're getting better.

 

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1779?cc=5901

 

Abhorrent. FIFA needs to be harsher with it's racism punishment.

Edited April 28, 2014 by Nipperkins

[SouthLand]

(0-4 0-3) (0-4 0-3) (0-2 1-1) We're getting better.

 

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1779?cc=5901

 

Abhorrent. FIFA needs to be harsher with it's racism punishment.

 

Life ban for Villarreal fan who threw banana

 

Villarreal have issued a lifetime ban to the fan who threw a banana at Dani Alves during Sunday night's clash against Barça at El Madrigal, having identified him using CCTV footage.

The supporter in question could yet face further punishment from Spain's Anti-Violence Commission, which is bidding to stamp out racist behaviour in sport.

The club have released the following statement outlining the decision:

"Villarreal CF would like to make it clear that the club deeply regrets and condemns the incident that happened yesterday during the match against FC Barcelona in which a fan threw an object onto the pitch at El Madrigal. Thanks to the security forces and the invaluable assistance of the Villarreal faithful, the club has already identified the culprit and has decided to withdraw his season tickets and issue a lifetime ban barring him from accessing El Madrigal.

"Once again our club would like to express its firm commitment to promoting respect, equality, sportsmanship and fair play both on and off the pitch and our absolute rejection of any act that is contrary to these principles, such as violence, discrimination, racism and xenophobia".

Read more: Life ban for Villarreal fan who threw banana - MARCA.com (English version)

 

 

http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/deportes/2014/04/28/villarreal-expulsa-vida-socio-tiro-platano-dani-alves/00031398704493395851383.htm

[Vercetti42]

Hats off to Alves for his reaction. But yes a good decision for the ban for the racist idiot.

 

Also two own goals were scored in the match by Vilarreal which (thankfully) helped us to a comeback win. Very Everton like.