MyDog Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Can't win, can you? First place Barcelona being 25 points ahead of third place Valencia apparently shows how weak La Liga is. A close Premier League season with so few points between the top 3 means it's been a "poor season"... No it means that FC Barcelona is much better than every other team in La Liga, and it's getting boring because every year it is a Barcelona and Real Madrid race to the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Can't win, can you? First place Barcelona being 25 points ahead of third place Valencia apparently shows how weak La Liga is. A close Premier League season with so few points between the top 3 means it's been a "poor season"... No it means that FC Barcelona is much better than every other team in La Liga, and it's getting boring because every year it is a Barcelona and Real Madrid race to the title. But that doesn't make La Liga "weak" in any way, shape or form. They have the two best teams in the world right now playing there. If anything that makes it a stronger league by your definition. I'm assuming taht you got the wrong end of the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus. Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 La Liga is undoubtedly one of the best leagues in the world, but the disparity between Barcelona/Madrid and everyone else grows greater with each passing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 La Liga is undoubtedly one of the best leagues in the world, but the disparity between Barcelona/Madrid and everyone else grows greater with each passing season. I'm not so sure really. Valencia, Villarreal, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla have all had fairly terrible seasons this year (Villar did okay in Europa though) for some reason. They lost alot and gained little but it's only been lately that they have started winning again and showing some signs of stength. I think it could be better next year for La Liga that being said Barcelona/Real Madrid are the best teams in the world, they will walk over almost any league including EPL. That's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Monra Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 YAAAY!!! It's not winning the league, but it's a start. If chelsea wins against manu next week, and if arsenal wins against stoke. It'll be manu 73. chelsea 73 and arsenal 70. and all 3 having played 36 games. So on paper, arsenal can still win it. But I doubt it. I would say now Arsenal's season Is over but well done for beating us, Arsenal played some good football and Wenger can take positives from that game. The only ones who can stop us winning our 19th League title Is Chelsea and I do fear Chelsea. They are desperate to retain their title so It Is going to be hard game next week at Old Trafford. I would definitely take a draw because that would put us 3 points ahead with three games to go but I would feel way better with a win. I got a feeling Arsenal are going to slip up against Stoke... I agree, obviously man utd will probably win the league anyway. but with arsenal having beaten both chelsea and man utd this season, the players now know that they are beatable, this is something to take forward for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Wow. Man United leads the table on 73 pts and 3 games left. They can only (hypothetically) win on 82 pts. How long ago has someone won the Premier League on such few points? Its been a while, i just checked and United won the league with 83 points in the 2002/03 season. A bloody long time ago. Since then 86 has been the lowest total in the 07/08 season and 90 or above for any other season. I have to say it's been a poor season. How does the winner having fewer points make it a poor season? It's arguably a better season because there is no one team dominating and other teams are beating the bigger names with more regularity. I have to say it's been a poor season. Poor? I'd say it's been a competitive season. I say it's poor because it has not been competitive. Only in the last few weeks has it turned into something competitive since United lost a few and the others gained some ground. United have been at the top of the league all season and have had it in control. Chelsea have not been anywhere near their normal form, Arsenal are Arsenal and United have not been on form either. Uniteds away form is horrible, a big reason for them being at the top is their home form, not losing a single game. In fact the away form of the top 4 has been horrendous beyond belief. It has not been a competitive season, it's been one where the majority of teams have not been up to their usual standard and now that we are in the close season, dropping points is making the league competitive again. I still think United won the league months ago and their home form is the biggest reason. Chelsea will have no chance there unless they really go for it. Possbily dropping Torres to the bench, they always seem to score when he leaves the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Monra Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Wow. Man United leads the table on 73 pts and 3 games left. They can only (hypothetically) win on 82 pts. How long ago has someone won the Premier League on such few points? Its been a while, i just checked and United won the league with 83 points in the 2002/03 season. A bloody long time ago. Since then 86 has been the lowest total in the 07/08 season and 90 or above for any other season. I have to say it's been a poor season. How does the winner having fewer points make it a poor season? It's arguably a better season because there is no one team dominating and other teams are beating the bigger names with more regularity. I have to say it's been a poor season. Poor? I'd say it's been a competitive season. I say it's poor because it has not been competitive. Only in the last few weeks has it turned into something competitive since United lost a few and the others gained some ground. United have been at the top of the league all season and have had it in control. Chelsea have not been anywhere near their normal form, Arsenal are Arsenal and United have not been on form either. Uniteds away form is horrible, a big reason for them being at the top is their home form, not losing a single game. In fact the away form of the top 4 has been horrendous beyond belief. It has not been a competitive season, it's been one where the majority of teams have not been up to their usual standard and now that we are in the close season, dropping points is making the league competitive again. I still think United won the league months ago and their home form is the biggest reason. Chelsea will have no chance there unless they really go for it. Possbily dropping Torres to the bench, they always seem to score when he leaves the pitch. chelsea was on top the start of the season, everyone thought that they would win it, cause they were doing so extremly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Wow. Man United leads the table on 73 pts and 3 games left. They can only (hypothetically) win on 82 pts. How long ago has someone won the Premier League on such few points? Its been a while, i just checked and United won the league with 83 points in the 2002/03 season. A bloody long time ago. Since then 86 has been the lowest total in the 07/08 season and 90 or above for any other season. I have to say it's been a poor season. How does the winner having fewer points make it a poor season? It's arguably a better season because there is no one team dominating and other teams are beating the bigger names with more regularity. I have to say it's been a poor season. Poor? I'd say it's been a competitive season. I say it's poor because it has not been competitive. Only in the last few weeks has it turned into something competitive since United lost a few and the others gained some ground. United have been at the top of the league all season and have had it in control. Chelsea have not been anywhere near their normal form, Arsenal are Arsenal and United have not been on form either. Uniteds away form is horrible, a big reason for them being at the top is their home form, not losing a single game. In fact the away form of the top 4 has been horrendous beyond belief. It has not been a competitive season, it's been one where the majority of teams have not been up to their usual standard and now that we are in the close season, dropping points is making the league competitive again. I still think United won the league months ago and their home form is the biggest reason. Chelsea will have no chance there unless they really go for it. Possbily dropping Torres to the bench, they always seem to score when he leaves the pitch. chelsea was on top the start of the season, everyone thought that they would win it, cause they were doing so extremly good. They had a good start (where they didn't lose a single game IIRC) but then so did Arsenal and ultimately they both fell out of the race soon enough. United had no competition. They were top of the league by December and have stayed there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 To be honest, United played terrible whole season and is on top because other teams played terrible as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus. Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Personally, I'd give United a little more credit see how they went unbeaten until, when, February? And a lot of their away points came from draws in which they were losing but came back to tie in the end. Good character, that. Predictions for tonight? I'm going to be unreasonably optimistic and say 4-4. Barca are Barca, and they're going to score goals at home, Madrid have to attack and they sure as hell have the talent to do so (but whether Mourinho decides to field this talent is another question..) so I'm really hoping for a somewhat of a goal fest. And there will be two red cards in the last 10 minutes. Edited May 3, 2011 by TheCacti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 It's funny how Maureen goes what 9 years unbeaten in the league at home and then ends up losing two in a month with the weekends defeat against Zaragoza. Tonight Mardid needs goals and can't be playing that sitting back boring Barca to death game, they're going to have to completey do the opposite to what Maureen would ussualy set up which will allow Barca plenty of space and there may be another drubbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDog Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I think Barcelona is gonna win 4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 To be honest, United played terrible whole season and is on top because other teams played terrible as well The thing that United are good at Is when we play bad we can still score that vital goal. That Is one of the reasons why we are top of the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 It's funny how Maureen goes what 9 years unbeaten in the league at home and then ends up losing two in a month with the weekends defeat against Zaragoza. Tonight Mardid needs goals and can't be playing that sitting back boring Barca to death game, they're going to have to completey do the opposite to what Maureen would ussualy set up which will allow Barca plenty of space and there may be another drubbing. Its the mentality . Once his players realise they aren't invincible they start to question mourinho's tactics. Also- Maureen? wtf And I would quite like Madrid to win and go through , it would really stir it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDog Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Sporting Gijon and Real Zaragoza are good clubs fyi you know nothing of spanish football if you think otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDog Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Sporting Gijon and Real Zaragoza are good clubs fyi you know nothing of spanish football if you think otherwise 15th and 14th place in La Liga last season. This season, Gijon is 11th and Zaragoza 15th. That isn't very good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canoxa Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Sporting Gijon and Real Zaragoza are good clubs fyi you know nothing of spanish football if you think otherwise 15th and 14th place in La Liga last season. This season, Gijon is 11th and Zaragoza 15th. That isn't very good to me. It's just the most competitive league in Europe, if not in the world. Real got utterly f*cked by Platini. Edited May 3, 2011 by Canoxa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 To be honest, United played terrible whole season and is on top because other teams played terrible as well Summed up nicely, agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceVanceDance07 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Barca book their spot in the final, but to be honest, I thought they got a lot more calls going their way than Madrid did. Oh, and Mascherano's play acting was despicable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIKKS66 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Barca book their spot in the final, but to be honest, I thought they got a lot more calls going their way than Madrid did. Oh, and Mascherano's play acting was despicable today. If that Higuain goal hadn't been cancelled out because of Mascherano, the game woulda taken a different route I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Sporting Gijon and Real Zaragoza are good clubs fyi you know nothing of spanish football if you think otherwise 15th and 14th place in La Liga last season. This season, Gijon is 11th and Zaragoza 15th. That isn't very good to me. It doesn't matter. They beat big teams when it matters, I recall Zaragoza trashing Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey final and Gijon perform when it matters as do Osasuna. These clubs you dismiss without seeing are actually quite strong, not the strongest in the world obviously but i'm pretty sure they would give alot of teams out there a run for their money and what's more impressive is that they do it without alot of money or superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Barca book their spot in the final, but to be honest, I thought they got a lot more calls going their way than Madrid did. Oh, and Mascherano's play acting was despicable today. If that Higuain goal hadn't been cancelled out because of Mascherano, the game woulda taken a different route I reckon. Replays shows he was clipped when Ronaldo fell over. He just milked it when it was on the floor. Not saying he didn't dive throughout the match but that was one where he did get clipped. Some Xavi stats too: Barcelona's most frequent passing combination last night was Xavi to Messi, 25 times. Not ideal for the opposition, that... Top 6 was : Xavi to Messi 25, Xavi to Busquets 24, Alves to Xavi 23, Xavi to Iniesta 21, Busquets to Xavi 20, Messi to Xavi 19. Amazing player, he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDog Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Last season, Real at least lost to decent clubs. This year they lose at home, led by Jose Mourinho, to Sporting de Gijon and Real Zaragoza. Sporting Gijon and Real Zaragoza are good clubs fyi you know nothing of spanish football if you think otherwise 15th and 14th place in La Liga last season. This season, Gijon is 11th and Zaragoza 15th. That isn't very good to me. It doesn't matter. They beat big teams when it matters, I recall Zaragoza trashing Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey final and Gijon perform when it matters as do Osasuna. These clubs you dismiss without seeing are actually quite strong, not the strongest in the world obviously but i'm pretty sure they would give alot of teams out there a run for their money and what's more impressive is that they do it without alot of money or superstars. I admit, I don't watch La Liga, but I thought they're bad because of results: Almeria 0-8 Barcelona Real Madrid 7-0 Malaga Real Madrid 8-0 Levante Real Madrid 6-0 Zaragoza Real Madrid 6-1 Deportivo La Coruna Real Madrid 6-1 Real Sociedad Barcelona 6-1 Zaragoza Real Madrid and Barcelona are giant clubs and much stronger, but the margin of their victory over those smaller clubs just makes the latter look sh*tty and ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Barcelona did that to Real Madrid also several times in the past few years. Malaga and Almeria are the only truly weak clubs you've listed there. You should not be influenced by the results, you should actually watch the football instead. This year has been very special for Barcelona & Real Madrid, they are truly the strongest clubs in the world and the current Barcelona is looking like one of the best teams to ever exist, it shouldn't be too much of a shock that they steamroll teams. That being said Real Zaragoza beat Madrid this year, Levante (lost 8-0) won the second leg vs Madrid, Real Betis (second league team) beat Barcelona after losing the first leg 5-0, Real Sociedad San Sebastian beat Barcelona last week, Hercules beat Barcelona, Osasuna beat Madrid. The fact that these teams who are widely unknown to the majority of football fans who don't watch La Liga can put up a fight or beat the current Barca/Madrid says alot about their strength and ability when on form. Edited May 4, 2011 by flitcroft101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canoxa Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Barca book their spot in the final, but to be honest, I thought they got a lot more calls going their way than Madrid did. Oh, and Mascherano's play acting was despicable today. If that Higuain goal hadn't been cancelled out because of Mascherano, the game woulda taken a different route I reckon. Replays shows he was clipped when Ronaldo fell over. He just milked it when it was on the floor. Not saying he didn't dive throughout the match but that was one where he did get clipped. The only angle that I've seen is inconclusive, but there's a bigger chance that Ronaldo didn't even touch him. Not to mention that Mascherano was already out of the play, as he couldn't gain possession of the ball, and the foul was only called after the goal. f*ck you, Platini. f*ck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus. Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I think big clubs can never blame the referee for their defeats. We invested €450m in the last two years to build a very important and strong team, so if you lose you can't blame injuries, bad luck, the referee ... If you lose, you have to congratulate your rival. Wow, finally some sense being spoken from Madrid in the wake of their turbulent clashes with Barcelona, and coming from Roman Calderon of all people.. A few weeks ago I was so excited about 4 Clásicos in the space of such short time. But I'm glad this fiasco has ended; and it has only reminded me of why I don't watch much Spanish football in the first place. It was merely an unhealthy mix of football, theatre, and pathetic excuses and name calling. Back to what I love most: English football and this weekends title decider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Barca book their spot in the final, but to be honest, I thought they got a lot more calls going their way than Madrid did. Oh, and Mascherano's play acting was despicable today. If that Higuain goal hadn't been cancelled out because of Mascherano, the game woulda taken a different route I reckon. Replays shows he was clipped when Ronaldo fell over. He just milked it when it was on the floor. Not saying he didn't dive throughout the match but that was one where he did get clipped. The only angle that I've seen is inconclusive, but there's a bigger chance that Ronaldo didn't even touch him. Not to mention that Mascherano was already out of the play, as he couldn't gain possession of the ball, and the foul was only called after the goal. f*ck you, Platini. f*ck you. Wasn't it the same ref who denied Bojans late goal vs Inter Milan that put Barca out last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 liking the new arsenal kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banks. Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Looks OK not the best I have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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