What exactly counts as griefing?

[theNGclan]

A couple of mingebags keep killing me while I'm in passive. I'm only in the session because I'm playing with another friend. Would repeatedly blowing me up/running me over count as griefing? I'm considering reporting them.

 

Any help?

[Shadow_Titan17]

I'd consider it griefing.

[Deadly Aviator]

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

Edited May 5, 2014 by Deadly Aviator

[Brock Elvis]

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

[Darth_Rob]

Borderline griefing, but not quite.

 

Oh, and climb up on a roof when you're in passive/AFK.

[Deadly Aviator]

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Griefing does not have an official definition so don't bother trying to give one.

 

Bottom line is R* will not punish those people if you report them because they are not doing anything wrong, only use report if people are being racist, glitching, hacking, griefing in missions etc, otherwise you are liable to be sanctioned for misusing the report feature.

Edited May 5, 2014 by Deadly Aviator

[theNGclan]

Aaaaand now he's purposely destroying PVs.

[senormidget]

 

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Griefing does not have an official definition so don't bother trying to give one.

 

Bottom line is R* will not punish those people if you report them because they are not doing anything wrong, only use report if people are being racist, glitching, hacking, griefing in missions etc, otherwise you are liable to be sanctioned for misusing the report feature.

Incorrect, you get thrown into BS after so many reports whether you did anything or not.

 

You really think somebody is sat there investigating every report?

[Darth_Rob]

Irritating, yes. Griefing, no.

[Two gun]

That would be. I had a whole team of griefers chasing me across the map. I was in passive mode and loving every minute of it.

[freedomna]

There is already a thread for this. Search Bar is your friend.

 

 

I'm just waiting for the amateur psychologist descriptions from certain members

Let that be me then.

 

As someone pointed out, griefing is defined as "A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game, using aspects of the game in unintended ways." (Wikipedia) so let us break down what this means.

 

The first part states that to be a griefer, you must -deliberately- irritate and harass people. That is obvious. The second part "Using aspects of the game in unintended ways" is I believe the most important part.

 

For example: In Call of Duty the aim of the game is to kill people, so if someone keeps killing you and you do not like it, well that is not grieifing as it is using aspects of the game in intended ways.

 

When people here say they are being griefed because they keep getting killed, one says "Well this is GTA, of course they should expect to be killed" which at first glance makes logical sense and would put this game under the same list as Call of Duty. However let us look back at the second part of the definition again: "Using aspects of the game in unintended ways". I bolded a part of the definition that I wanted to stand out. What does unintended me, as in who does it relate to? Do the players define what is unintended? Well if that was the case if you asked 10 people the intended way of playing GTA you would have 11 answers.

 

I prefer to go by what the developers intended and to find out what they wanted GTA to be let us look no further than the GTA Online trailer. In the trailer you had a focus on cooperative aspects and PvP was rarely used and only in justifiable circumstances. That is what the GTA devs wanted, not this slaughter fest.

 

So if a player is deliberately irritating and harassing you by spawn camping you, well that would be grieifing.

 

I must be an a short essay mood, this is my second one today

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/702925-define-griefer/?do=findComment&comment=1065227215

[Schweppez]

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Griefing does not have an official definition so don't bother trying to give one.

 

Bottom line is R* will not punish those people if you report them because they are not doing anything wrong, only use report if people are being racist, glitching, hacking etc, otherwise you are liable to be sanctioned for misusing the report feature.

 

Glitching/Hacking is its own category. Griefing is deliberately being a nuisance like spawn killing, destroying PVs constantly, etc. So technically that definition is correct.

[freedomna]

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Griefing does not have an official definition so don't bother trying to give one.

 

 

It doesn't have an official definition, but it does have a logical one. Much like the word Art, which variate between person to person; as long as one can logically explain their definition and defend their definition from other views, then it is a valid definition.

[GTAMYBABIES]

You will know once you hear squeaking coming from other players microphones.

Edited May 5, 2014 by GTAMYBABIES

[YogurtStorm]

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Grief Theft Auto: online

[Brock Elvis]

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

Grief Theft Auto: online

 

Grief Troll Arseholes: Online

[rickreim]

As freedomma said, there was a long thread about this a while back and it means different things to different people. Here is the link again in case you didn't see it (skipped his tl;dr essay) in earlier post from freedomma

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/702925-define-griefer/?hl=%2Bdefine+%2Bgriefing&do=findComment&comment=1065227215

 

I think it is all up to the victim. If you feel someone is doing something specifically to cause you grief, then they are griefing you

Edited May 5, 2014 by rickreim

[Brock Elvis]

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

I think it is all up to the victim. If someone is doing something to cause you grief, then they are grieving you

 

Almost the exact same definition.

Edited May 5, 2014 by Brock Elvis

[rickreim]

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

 

I think it is all up to the victim. If someone is doing something to cause you grief, then they are grieving you

 

Almost the exact same definition.

Our definitions may be similar or the same, but not everybody agrees with us.

Click the link and read the thread if you want to get a better idea of some opinions on what greifing is

Edited May 5, 2014 by rickreim

[NomadRider]

Report the leader, of the group. You can only report 1 person for a certain amount of time. Also if you are able, kill them repeatedly until they rage quit. Dude was trying to grief us the other night playing RR. He shot out the tires on my nephews Coquette and then tried to run him over. I came in with my Turismo and picked the kid up. We Dude kept ramming us and tried to kill us repeatedly. As I drove through the gate into Madrozos driveway, I chucked a sticky bomb up into the air and detonated it just above his car. Asshole screamed into his mic at me calling me a few choice names. I got a free kill and no BS or Insurance for blowing up his ADDER. As we went back to free roam his car was a gone and we spawn killed the chump about 4 times before he rage quit. I call it griefing a griefer

[CatchMeTrolling]

Getting owned

[freedomna]

As freedomma said, there was a long thread about this a while back and it means different things to different people. Here is the link again in case you didn't see it (skipped his tl;dr essay) in earlier post from freedomma

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/702925-define-griefer/?hl=%2Bdefine+%2Bgriefing&do=findComment&comment=1065227215

 

I think it is all up to the victim. If you feel someone is doing something specifically to cause you grief, then they are griefing you

Two paragraphs is Tl;Dr? I fear for this generation of Americans. I truly do. No wonder China is creaming the US.

[Deadly Aviator]

 

 

Griefing - Act of causing grief towards another person by means that either directly or indirectly involve them.

I think it is all up to the victim. If someone is doing something to cause you grief, then they are grieving you

Almost the exact same definition.

Our definitions may be similar or the same, but not everybody agrees with us.

Click the link and read the thread if you want to get a better idea of some opinions on what greifing is

 

Rickreim your definition makes no sense, if it was up to the victim anything could be called greifing; If someone's intention is to cause grief, they are a greifer, whether they are successful or not. Someone who is killing people in GTA for fun and not with the intention of causing grief to those they are killing, is not a griefer, even if the 'victims' feel they are.

Edited May 5, 2014 by Deadly Aviator

[Brock Elvis]

I think right here and now, we need to coin a solid definition of "Griefing". Half the forums could benefit from this proposal.

[darkwar854]

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

No, that's trolling. Griefing is when someone keeps killing you till you quit.

[CatchMeTrolling]

 

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

No, that's trolling. Griefing is when someone keeps killing you till you quit.

 

A.K.A getting owned & if anyone keeps coming back its their fault.

[Two gun]

 

 

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

No, that's trolling. Griefing is when someone keeps killing you till you quit.And do you have a problem with both of those ?

[darkwar854]

 

 

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

No, that's trolling. Griefing is when someone keeps killing you till you quit.

And do you have a problem with both of those ?

 

Yep.

[theNGclan]

 

 

 

No, Greifing would be doing something not intended in the game's design, like purposely failing missions, wallbreaching, modding, killing in garage etc.

 

Killing in freeroam is something rockstar built into the game and there is nothing wrong with them doing it, passive mode sucks so if you don't like it go to a new session, or invite only session.

No, that's trolling. Griefing is when someone keeps killing you till you quit.

And do you have a problem with both of those ?

 

Yep.

 

Rightfully so. Going out of your way to troll will only cause issues. I know that first hand. *cough*northyanktondlchoax*cough*

[Is this The Guy?]

There is no such thing as griefing.