Muslims terrorize Jewish children on Temple Mount (video)

[Melech]

 

 

 

 

More trouble in paradise?

 

When will it stop, sh*t like this has been happening for damn near 2000 years now, When will they learn?

Good question! When will those Arabs learn to accept Jewish presence and Israel's existence? Israel has accepted Arab presence and the right to a "Palestinian" state.

 

yeah seems like it

 

A house of a terrorist or an ilegally built house. Where is the problem? Tear it down!

 

well the problem is that bulldozing houses and building on occupied land is a breach of the Geneva convention. also property isn't destroyed if the owner is a criminal in most societies.

 

Which article of the Geneva Convention? You just say the same slogan, but no arguments.

 

As I said before, Judea and Samaria are NOT occupied land, it is a DISPUTED land because it had no previous sovereignty.

[Clem Fandango]

well, if we were in the cat-picture-sharing thread, I wouldn't mind.

 

did you guys resolve Middle-East peace, yet?

 

I see you are far too cool to discuss politics, and would rather get snide about religion and debate the proper way to get baked.

[Melech]

 

 

 

 

More trouble in paradise?

 

When will it stop, sh*t like this has been happening for damn near 2000 years now, When will they learn?

Good question! When will those Arabs learn to accept Jewish presence and Israel's existence? Israel has accepted Arab presence and the right to a "Palestinian" state.

 

 

 

And the crazy thing is: if you're from the West, no matter what side you're for or against, you're instantly a crazy right wing anti-semitic, or a crazy right wing islamophobe! It makes so much sense!

 

It seems that way.

 

On a related note, I recall finding a group of pictures that use Israel's treatment to Palestenians as an analogy. I think it's pretty neat and I'll post the links in the spoiler below.

 

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/We_are_all_palestinian.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Waap6.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Waap2.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Waap3.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Waap5.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Waap4.gif

 

 

Those pictures (made by an anti-Semite) are pure lies and demagogy. Is this the best you have to show?

 

 

How are they anti-semetic? Just because they oppose Israel's POLITCAL polices? That's not a very good argument, in all legitimacy.

 

The cartoonist Carlos Latuff, a well-known anti-Semite, is the guy who did those disgusting cartoons.

 

 

Read his quote (source)

 

 

My cartoons have no focus on the Jews or on Judaism. My focus is Israel as a political entity, as a government, their armed forces being a satellite of U.S. interests in the Middle East, and especially Israeli policies toward the Palestinians. It happens to be Israeli Jews that are the oppressors of Palestinians.…My detractors say that the use of the Magen David in my Israel-related cartoons is irrefutable proof of antisemitism; however, it’s not my fault if Israel chose sacred religious motifs as national symbols, such as the Knesset Menorah or the Star of David in killing-machines like F-16 jets.

 

This guy is a liar! Israel is a Jewish state on Jewish land. It is normal that the Menorah and the Magen David are national symbols.

 

 

What's there to lie about? Not many countries have RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS as POLITICAL/MILITARY SYMBOLS.

 

The great majority of Islamic countries have the half moon as symbol! Most European coutries have a cross on their flags and/or national coats of arms.

The IDF symbol is not religious, anyway.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari

[El Dildo]

As I said before, Judea and Samaria are NOT occupied land, it is a DISPUTED land because it had no previous sovereignty.

 

no land has "previous sovereignty" unless you count the mud, the fish, the sticks, and the bugs.

it's all Earth. we just decide on sh*t.

 

y'all can't decide on sh*t because religion.

 

...carry on.

 

 

I see you are far too cool to discuss politics, and would rather get snide about religion and debate the proper way to get baked.

do you hear yourself?

it's a forum. relax. I'll reply to topics how I wish.

Edited April 24, 2014 by El_Diablo

[Melech]

no land has "previous sovereignty" unless you count the mud, the fish, the sticks, and the bugs.

it's all Earth. we just decide on sh*t.

 

y'all can't decide on sh*t because religion.

 

...carry on.

Israel has not decided anything because of religion, not even the reestablishment of the state in 1948. Theodor Herlz (Z"L) was a secular Jew as most pioneers.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari

[El Dildo]

Israel has not decided anything because of religion

 

let's just cut the crap for 5 seconds and admit what we all know, eh?

[Mr. House]

Which article of the Geneva Convention? You just say the same slogan, but no arguments.

 

As I said before, Judea and Samaria are NOT occupied land, it is a DISPUTED land because it had no previous sovereignty.

 

• The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

   

• Art. 53. Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Myron

[universetwisters]

The great majority of Islamic countries have the half moon as symbol! Most European coutries have a cross on their flags and/or national coats of arms.

The IDF symbol is not religious, anyway.

 

 

Do they put their religious symbols on their war machines? Do you see their tanks with crosses on them? Look at your fighter jets.

 

 

 

 

Do you see a Star of David? I see a Star of David.

[Melech]

 

Which article of the Geneva Convention? You just say the same slogan, but no arguments.

 

As I said before, Judea and Samaria are NOT occupied land, it is a DISPUTED land because it had no previous sovereignty.

 

• The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

   

• Art. 53. Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

 

1 - Israel has not transferred parts of its population to the disputed territory. The settlers have gone voluntairly without being transferred.

2- That destruction is necessary by military operations. Anyway, those articles can't be applied to this conflict because Judea and Samaria are not occupied territories but DISPUTED because they had no previous sovereignty.

 

The great majority of Islamic countries have the half moon as symbol! Most European coutries have a cross on their flags and/or national coats of arms.

The IDF symbol is not religious, anyway.

 

 

Do they put their religious symbols on their war machines? Do you see their tanks with crosses on them? Look at your fighter jets.

 

 

 

 

Do you see a Star of David? I see a Star of David.

 

I said the IDF logo is not a religious symbol, altought it includes a Magen David. The IAF roundel is a Magen David yes. And? Many armies in Western countries include religious symbols as logo, thing that ALL Muslim countries do, including "Palestine".

Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari

[Clem Fandango]

The UN has called it an occupation. Their judicial perspective is a bit more important than yours.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Melchior

[Mr. House]

1 - Israel has not transferred parts of its population to the disputed territory. The settlers have gone voluntairly.

 

2- That destruction is necessary by military operations. Anyway, those articles can't be applied to this conflict because Judea and Samaria are not occupied territories but DISPUTED because they had no previous sovereignty.

 

building another house for israelis to live in is not a necessary military operation.

[universetwisters]

Thats exactly my point. If you KNOW the roundel for the IAF has a Star of David on it, then don't get pissy whenever someone makes a political cartoon against Israel. Just so we're clear here:

 

Anti Semetic - they hate all Jewish people as a whole

 

Did any of us say we hate Jewish people? No. Now just because we disagree with Israel's policies, why do you call us anti-Semetic? It's the GOVERNMENT we don't like, not the RELIGION.

[Melech]

The UN is called it an occupation. Their judicial perspective is a bit more important than yours.

The UN, the executive corrupt comitee of Arab dictatorships against Israel. I don't care what the UN says.

 

[Mr. House]

 

The UN is called it an occupation. Their judicial perspective is a bit more important than yours.

The UN, the executive corrupt comitee of Arab dictatorships against Israel. I don't care what the UN says.

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA you are a moron

[Melech]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA you are a moron

 

Avoid personal attacks. I have not attacked you. The UN is biased against Israel since more than half of their countries are anti-West dictatorships:

 

Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari

[Clem Fandango]

If you don't care what the UN says then why the f*ck are you talking about legality?

[Mr. House]

please stop, my sides they can't take it

[universetwisters]

Now what does not liking Israel have to do with being anti-Semetic? I thought "Semite" applied to Jewish people and culture, not a nation, as the address themselves as.

[Melech]

If you don't care what the UN says then why the f*ck are you talking about legality?

Nowdays, the UN doesn't follow the law. It's a corrupt institution.

 

Why should I care what Arab anti-Semitic dictatorships say?

[make total destroy]

Clearly, only an anti-Semite would be opposed to the Israeli state.

 

 

 

I think you get the idea.

Edited April 24, 2014 by ShootPeopleNotDope

[Killzone3265]

god damn, seriously, when is the world going realise all religion is, is destruction between us as human beings

it needs to stop before we end up destroying our planet more than we already have

 

i used the word god because it sounds cool

[gtamann123]

god damn, seriously, when is the world going realise all religion is, is destruction between us as human beings

it needs to stop before we end up destroying our planet more than we already have

 

i used the word god because it sounds cool

I would like your post but I have reached my quota apparently.

 

I agree completely. Religion is one of the main obstacles humanity needs to overcome in the 21st century. How we have been able to last this long with it is unimaginable to me.

[Killzone3265]

i'd say if we dont eliminate by 2050, its over

maybe an earlier date than that honestly

im not saying that there should be a one world government, but this is just stupid how we aren't banded together as a species, developing SAFE reusable energy, looking more into habitable planets, etc

we aren't going to fit on this rock for another century, the answer is obvious, we all have to become one to overcome our own evolution

 

 

im not sure if my post even makes sense, i lost my train of thought like a sentence in lol

Edited April 24, 2014 by Killzone3265

[dante財閥]

You could only very mildly make a case for The Guardian being anti-Israel, and even that is borderline slander. The vast, vast majority of the media is pro-Israel. To argue against this seems a bit unhinged.

[sivispacem]

This topic is an utter f*cking farce. Palikari, if you want to discuss Israeli sovereignty and history please do so in the "Debates and Discussion" section of the forum, improve the quality of your contributions and pay a little attention to the validity of your sources. I wrote my undergraduate thesis on Israeli use of force since 1973 and I can say quite comfortably that most of the arguments you've presented are propaganda laden bullsh*t.