Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Some two dozen or so Jewish children ascended with their fathers to the Temple Mount. Children, not even teenagers. Haredim. They were surrounded by adult Muslim men and women who chanted, screamed, yelled, pushed, threatened and otherwise acted with verbal and even some physical violence. And surely psychological violence. There is a simple reason why the Muslims became so unhinged. Because proud Jewish children threaten them more than the police or the IDF. Muslims know that this is a long-term conflict. They see the IDF the way they think about Crusaders - outsiders who came for a while but who were eventually and inevitably going to be pushed out. All that is needed is patience. But religious Jewish children show clearly that there is a people whose claim to the Land is older and far more authentic than theirs. Secular Israeli Jews they can handle. They think that human rights groups and Western governments and terrorism can wear them down and force many of them to make concessions, and then more concessions, until the Muslims win. They look at Gaza and Lebanon and see nothing but Jewish weakness. But children who are identifiable as Jews are a force that they cannot counter. The children represent a world where Jews are tenacious and dedicated, filled with love for the land and the inner strength to hold onto it. These children and their descendants are not about to give up their holy sites for mere promises and more lies. The children represent the future, and Muslims don't like what they see there. Just watch the video and decide - who respects their holy sites and who desecrates them? Sources: Yisrael Meldad's Jerusalem Post blog / Elder of Ziyon WHY HAVE I POSTED THIS VIDEO? ISRAEL HATERS WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE "PROPAGANDA". NO! I POSTED IT BECAUSE WESTERN MEDIA WOULD NEVER SHOW THIS VIDEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) don't worry man, just shell some Palestinian schools and hospitals and you will all feel better. western media is very pro israel by the way Edited April 24, 2014 by Myron Clem Fandango, universetwisters and Majestic81 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) western media is very pro israel by the way Hahaha! Keep that jokes for April Fools' Day. Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari Abel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) western media is very pro israel by the way Hahaha! Keep that jokes of April Fool's Day. yeah the BBC's refusal to cover the obliteration of the gaza strip in 2008 was f*cking hilarious. a real carnival Edited April 24, 2014 by Myron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GHETTO JEZUS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Why can't you guys just get along ? universetwisters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 yeah the BBC's refusal to cover the obliteration of the gaza strip in 2008 was f*cking hilarious. a real carnival The BBC is anti-Israel, and The Guardian even more. Most Western media is anti-Israel. Visit this website: http://www.camera.org/index.asp Why can't you guys just get along ? Most Israelis want to get along with the Arabs; the Arabs don't accept Jewish presence on Israel. As Golda Meir (Z"L) said: "Peace will come when the arabs will love their children more than they hate us." Abel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Why can't you guys just get along ? Some long story about the Jewish people thinking they own a piece of land that's already part of another country because they owned it in their bible/torah, all the surrounding countries get mad at Israel for it, and Israel plays the race card whenever it's brought up in my experience. I remember I was talking to some Jewish kid last year about how they treated the Palestinians and I compared it to Apartheid and he called me a racist for it. But back to the point. it makes as much sense as me walking into your house and kicking you guys out because I have a "deed" to it in my back pocket that I scribbled on the back of a McDonalds napkin. Edited April 24, 2014 by universetwisters gtamann123, Niobium, Clem Fandango and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a20characterusername Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) western media is very pro israel by the way Hahaha! Keep that jokes for April Fools' Day. Are you seriously arguing that it isn't? I can't speak for Europe, but in the U.S., even so much as a mild criticism of anything related to Israel results in a conga line of media pundits, politicans, and lobbyists screaming "antisemite" at the top of their lungs. Edited April 24, 2014 by gtarelatedusername2 Killerdude, universetwisters and Detective Phelps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Some long story about the Jewish people thinking they own a piece of land that's already part of another country because they owned it in their bible/torah, all the surrounding countries get mad at Israel for it, and Israel plays the race card whenever it's brought up in my experience. I remember I was talking to some Jewish kid last year about how they treated the Palestinians and I compared it to Apartheid and he called me a racist for it. But back to the point. it makes as much sense as me walking into your house and kicking you guys out because I have a "deed" to it in my back pocket that I scribbled on the back of a McDonalds napkin. Eretz Yisrael was not part of any country before 1948. Do you know what a history book is? If so, use it. Israel is not an apartheid state: More Israeli apartheid here: http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com.es/p/eoz-posters-for-apartheid-week.html Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GHETTO JEZUS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Why can't you guys just get along ? Some long story about the Jewish people thinking they own a piece of land that's already part of another country because they owned it in their bible/torah, all the surrounding countries get mad at Israel for it, and Israel plays the race card whenever it's brought up in my experience. I remember I was talking to some Jewish kid last year about how they treated the Palestinians and I compared it to Apartheid and he called me a racist for it. But back to the point. it makes as much sense as me walking into your house and kicking you guys out because I have a "deed" to it in my back pocket that I scribbled on the back of a McDonalds napkin. So the Israelis are pretty much claiming that, that piece of land is there's when in reality it's the Palestinians ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 yeah the BBC's refusal to cover the obliteration of the gaza strip in 2008 was f*cking hilarious. a real carnival The BBC is anti-Israel, and The Guardian even more. Most Western media is anti-Israel. Visit this website: http://www.camera.org/index.asp Anti-Israel? You kidding? I've had the urge to start a holy war in the name of Yahweh since I've started watching CNN. Clem Fandango, Mr. House, gtamann123 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Israel is not an apartheid state: Explain why you stick up a giant Berlin-esque wall to keep Palestinians out, build them separate roads, bulldoze their houses for being "alledged terrorist lairs", and set up many checkpoints for them @Ghettojezus - Pretty much Edited April 24, 2014 by universetwisters Detective Phelps and Clem Fandango 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I<3GTAV Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 the issue is not who does the land belong to. unfortunately i am not in a fit state to articulate this point, I hope someone else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GHETTO JEZUS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Why are they doing that then ? If it's not there piece of land why are they fighting for it as it is ? Damm the middle east will over anything just for media attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Israel is not an apartheid state: Explain why you stick up a giant Berlin-esque wall to keep Palestinians out, build them separate roads, bulldoze their houses for being "alledged terrorist lairs", and set up many checkpoints for them It is just a security wall that keeps Israel safe from Islamic terrorism. It doesn't separate peoples but population centers and territorial limits. The US has a wall on the US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? Edited April 24, 2014 by Palikari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Why are they doing that then ? If it's not there piece of land why are they fighting for it as it is ? Damm the middle east will over anything just for media attention. what Tyler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is doomed. No, it's not. Israel is here to stay, and as a world power. Abel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is not an apartheid state: Explain why you stick up a giant Berlin-esque wall to keep Palestinians out, build them separate roads, bulldoze their houses for being "alledged terrorist lairs", and set up many checkpoints for them It is just a security wall that keeps Israel safe from Islamic terrorism. It doesn't separate people's but population centers. "Security wall"? Do you really honestly think they're going to be stopped by a wall? If that were the case, we would've built a wall around all our major cities a LOOOONG time ago. The US has a wall on US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? The wall is there to keep illegal immigrants from coming in, not a "security wall". We also don't bulldoze down houses, shoot rockets over their borders, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 So the Israelis are pretty much claiming that, that piece of land is there's when in reality it's the Palestinians ? Well, if we're talking about the land that exists within Israel's legal borders, then no. That's Israel. But they've turned huge swaths of Palestine into a militarised buffer zone to keep violence from spilling into Israel proper. They're also occupying Palestine and treating it like it's their territory: building colonies, collecting taxes, engaging in judicial practises etc. All of this is highly illegal. They're also brutal as balls. universetwisters and Detective Phelps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Why are they doing that then ? If it's not there piece of land why are they fighting for it as it is ? Damm the middle east will over anything just for media attention. It's a cultural / clash of civilization conflict, not a political conflict. The Arabs don't want Jews. Period. They made it clear when they supported Hitler. The Arabs want to destroy Israel, and Israel defends itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is doomed. No, it's not. Israel is here to stay, and as a world power. World power? If you count taking American taxpayer's money to pay for your country's defense as powerful, then sure! universetwisters, Detective Phelps and gtamann123 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GHETTO JEZUS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 But is there a such need to go out and do all this stuff ? Like can't you guys negotiate with a treaty or something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) The US has a wall on the US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? If the United States were denying Mexico's sovereignty then that might be a useful parallel. also what's with this nutjob talking about "arabs" like they're some monolithic hive mind? It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic. Edited April 24, 2014 by Melchior Detective Phelps and universetwisters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is not an apartheid state: Explain why you stick up a giant Berlin-esque wall to keep Palestinians out, build them separate roads, bulldoze their houses for being "alledged terrorist lairs", and set up many checkpoints for them It is just a security wall that keeps Israel safe from Islamic terrorism. It doesn't separate people's but population centers. "Security wall"? Do you really honestly think they're going to be stopped by a wall? If that were the case, we would've built a wall around all our major cities a LOOOONG time ago. The US has a wall on US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? The wall is there to keep illegal immigrants from coming in, not a "security wall". We also don't bulldoze down houses, shoot rockets over their borders, etc. The wall was built after the second intifada to protect Israeli civilians. It should have been built MUCH BEFORE. The US and Spain defend their security not letting those illegals get in their territory. The bulldozed houses belong to to terrorists. The UK did the same in Northern Ireland. Other bulldozed homes are ilegally built, by Arabs or by Jewish settlers. Fire rockets... That's what Hamas does from Gaza. They fire rockets to Israeli civilians evert week. Today they have fired rockets at the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) The US has a wall on the US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? If the United States were denying Mexico's sovereignty then that might be a useful parallel. That's the BIG difference right there. Mexico and the United States can exist peacefully without America shelling Mexico on a regular basis. The US and Spain defend their security not letting those illegals get in their territory. It's not a matter of security, it's a matter of controlling drug trade and smuggling. I guess that goes into "security", but as I said before - we don't shell Mexico on a regular basis. The bulldozed houses belong to to terrorists. The UK did the same in Northern Ireland. Other bulldozed homes are ilegally built, by Arabs or by Jewish settlers. Fire rockets... That's what Hamas does from Gaza. They fire rockets to Israeli civilians evert week. Today they have fired rockets at the south. Is there any proof that ALL of the houses belong to the terrorists? Very rarely do you see that happen in America. Edited April 24, 2014 by universetwisters Detective Phelps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtamann123 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 But is there a such need to go out and do all this stuff ? Like can't you guys negotiate with a treaty or something ? It's been tried many many many times and never worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Israel is doomed. No, it's not. Israel is here to stay, and as a world power. well if being a 'world power' consists of being totally subsidised by other countries then sure. It's a cultural / clash of civilization conflict, not a political conflict. The Arabs don't want Jews. Period. They made it clear when they supported Hitler. The Arabs want to destroy Israel, and Israel defends itself. and the best way to defend yourself is by blowing up the municipal buildings of your enemies! universetwisters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The US has a wall on the US-Mexico border. Is the US an apartheid state? Spain has a wall on the cities of Ceuta and Melilla. Is Spain an apartheid state? If the United States were denying Mexico's sovereignty then that might be a useful parallel. That's the BIG difference right there. Mexico and the United States can exist peacefully without America shelling Mexico on a regular basis. Maybe we should. Teach those damned illegals and coke-heads a thing or two about real patriotism. Mr. House, gtamann123, Clem Fandango and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 So the Israelis are pretty much claiming that, that piece of land is there's when in reality it's the Palestinians ? Well, if we're talking about the land that exists within Israel's legal borders, then no. That's Israel. But they've turned huge swaths of Palestine into a militarised buffer zone to keep violence from spilling into Israel proper. They're also occupying Palestine and treating it like it's their territory: building colonies, collecting taxes, engaging in judicial practises etc. All of this is highly illegal. They're also brutal as balls. Judea and Samaria are not occupied territories but disputed. Legally they can't be classified as occupied because they had no previous sovereignty. But is there a such need to go out and do all this stuff ? Like can't you guys negotiate with a treaty or something ? Israel tries to negotiate, but the Arabs don't want. They put conditions to negotiate such as asking Israel to release hundreds of Arab terrorists from Israeli prisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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