Idea for R* - Paintings Sponsors & Race Bonus

[Djeli]

That herbie. so fly.

Sorry but i'm French.

With other words?

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

 

That herbie. so fly.

Sorry but i'm French.

With other words?

 

The Herbie (Dune Buggy) Is Very Cool. Fly Is 70's/80's slang for cool.

[Djeli]

 

 

That herbie. so fly.

Sorry but i'm French.

With other words?

 

The Herbie (Dune Buggy) Is Very Cool. Fly Is 70's/80's slang for cool.

 

Oh, Ok!

Thanks!

[HBSanta]

I love this idea and you have actually taken this great idea and made it into something tangible with those Photoshopped cars. My crew (Apex Stalkers) already does something like this, we have a weekly racing tournament called the Touring Car Championship where everyone finds a sponsor in the GTA world and resprays their car (a sedan or coupe) to match the colors of their sponsor. For example my Benefactor Schafter is a very dark brown to represent the "Ground and Pound" coffee shop. I would love it if we could actually create our own vinyl groups and make decals like you've done in the OP. Although I respect your optimism that Rockstar would implement this into GTA Online, I feel like there is little to no chance that it will come to fruition, at least not for the foreseeable future.

 

All in all, well done Djeli. I'll show this thread to my crew, I'm sure they're gonna love it.

[Heists]

I like this idea actually, sounds similar to what was in the old need for speed games where you'd win extra cash by coming first by representing a company. Would be awesome if this made it into the game.

[TheGoodSgtScooter]

The Vice City Pastry Crew Has Officially Endorsed This Idea As Awesome.

[Arya35]

I doubt that we will get bonuses for the colours, but I still want those designs available on cars, great job on them.

[Lucius Aelius]

I'll say that if I can have a sponsor in the race without having to paint their name on my car I wouldn't care so much (this is a video game after all and they're not real companies, I just don't like the way it looks to have random and often colorful words scrawled all over my car), but having a race bonus tied to an appearance option which not everyone would like is just not a good idea (sure the people who like this idea would think it's great, but there are other people in the world besides you and they deserve fair consideration, which giving yourself a bonus and leaving them out would not be doing). The livery all looks nice enough for what it is (I certainly have no criticisms for the quality of your photoshops), I just don't want it on my cars, and any game mechanic which would encourage me to use it (and punish me if I don't) isn't inclusive of everyone's aesthetic preferences, but rather it needlessly disregards them.

 

Maybe if this were a game about legitimate racers competing in sponsored vehicles then this idea would be more fitting, but that's not what this game is and is instead about criminals doing illegal activities, street racing included. Since when do illegal street racers have official corporate sponsors? And if they ever did, I for one have trouble imagining a legitimate company associating pulblicly with criminals and as such if they were going to sponsor a criminal they would do so quietly (and not by plastering their good name over some criminal's car).

[RDT33]

I'll say that if I can have a sponsor in the race without having to paint their name on my car I wouldn't care so much (this is a video game after all and they're not real companies, I just don't like the way it looks to have random and often colorful words scrawled all over my car), but having a race bonus tied to an appearance option which not everyone would like is just not a good idea (sure the people who like this idea would think it's great, but there are other people in the world besides you and they deserve fair consideration, which giving yourself a bonus and leaving them out would not be doing). The livery all looks nice enough for what it is (I certainly have no criticisms for the quality of your photoshops), I just don't want it on my cars, and any game mechanic which would encourage me to use it (and punish me if I don't) isn't inclusive of everyone's aesthetic preferences, but rather it needlessly disregards them.

 

Maybe if this were a game about legitimate racers competing in sponsored vehicles then this idea would be more fitting, but that's not what this game is and is instead about criminals doing illegal activities, street racing included. Since when do illegal street racers have official corporate sponsors? And if they ever did, I for one have trouble imagining a legitimate company associating pulblicly with criminals and as such if they were going to sponsor a criminal they would do so quietly (and not by plastering their good name over some criminal's car).

I'd rather not go into the second paragraph in your post because there are a ton of inconsistencies in that argument.

 

So the first paragraph. The people that didn't have the sponsors wouldn't be punished, they just wouldn't be rewarded. And you wouldn't be able to get paid by a sponsor if you don't actually display the sponsor on your car, because then you aren't advertising the sponsor's brand. Don't like having the liveries, don't get paid, simple as that.

[Djeli]

I'll say that if I can have a sponsor in the race without having to paint their name on my car I wouldn't care so much (this is a video game after all and they're not real companies, I just don't like the way it looks to have random and often colorful words scrawled all over my car), but having a race bonus tied to an appearance option which not everyone would like is just not a good idea (sure the people who like this idea would think it's great, but there are other people in the world besides you and they deserve fair consideration, which giving yourself a bonus and leaving them out would not be doing). The livery all looks nice enough for what it is (I certainly have no criticisms for the quality of your photoshops), I just don't want it on my cars, and any game mechanic which would encourage me to use it (and punish me if I don't) isn't inclusive of everyone's aesthetic preferences, but rather it needlessly disregards them.

 

Maybe if this were a game about legitimate racers competing in sponsored vehicles then this idea would be more fitting, but that's not what this game is and is instead about criminals doing illegal activities, street racing included. Since when do illegal street racers have official corporate sponsors? And if they ever did, I for one have trouble imagining a legitimate company associating pulblicly with criminals and as such if they were going to sponsor a criminal they would do so quietly (and not by plastering their good name over some criminal's car).

Be sure than if I opened this topic it was to have more than just peolpe who likes it.

I always prefer critics than cheers (professionaly and personnaly). It's more helpful to go in the good way.

 

For sure, I take your advice and not all the compliment I receive.

 

Before to send this to R*, I'll change the speech to be greatful for everyone.

 

What I want clarify, that's in GTA V we can make street racing.

Cars like Elegy, Penumbra and others deserve a part of tuning and paints adequate for their fans.

Yes, it's clearly an aspect of the game.

Just stay AFK in the game and by night, you can hear the sound of street racers.

 

In an other way, Rockstar implement modified cars like Feltzer, Massacro (for sure), Coquette, Jester and others) who looks more like DTM modification.

Feltzer was a simple car in GTA IV and before. But not now. Then it deserve to have the real look of an DTM car.

Not an obligation but a choice.

 

I'm alright when you say it's not fair.

So give me a way (or I'll find one) to be fair for everyone.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Djeli

[sash2k4plus]

Great idea right here.

[Djeli]

The Vice City Pastry Crew Has Officially Endorsed This Idea As Awesome.

Haha!

Thanks man!

 

And thanks to all who likes this idea.

Don't forget to give your suggestion and critics and if you want to share a paints, that's more better.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Djeli

[Ezza.]

It'd be awesome if we could make a crew Livery. (Or the Crew leader could make a crew livery)

 

Great idea, I love the princess Robot Bubblegum Comet.

 

You reckon you could do a rally type Sultan Livery?

[Djeli]

It'd be awesome if we could make a crew Livery. (Or the Crew leader could make a crew livery)

 

Great idea, I love the princess Robot Bubblegum Comet.

 

You reckon you could do a rally type Sultan Livery?

Crew livery will be good too but maybe all wants his own livery so too much Crew create just to make one.

Give for everybody is more simple or made by R*.

 

Sultan is clearly a model to make in rallye style.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Djeli

[manicmechanic71]

I think this is a marvellous idea, and really respect the work you put in.

Like it or not appearance options DO give bonuses - you can't have the performance of the advanced rifle with the looks of the assault rifle no matter how much you prefer the ak, and you can't have a bulletproof butt on many cars without fitting rear louvres whether you like the look of them or not.

I'd perhaps have you losing your "sponsorship " if you lost too many races over a certain time period.

[JiNX77]

Nice work OP. I'd like to see some more manufacturer sponsored ones. Atomic Tires, 24/7 and Beeker's Garage could be on some as well.

 

Sorry if some of these are repeats, I am short on time and only got to skim this...for now.

[Djeli]

I think this is a marvellous idea, and really respect the work you put in.

Like it or not appearance options DO give bonuses - you can't have the performance of the advanced rifle with the looks of the assault rifle no matter how much you prefer the ak, and you can't have a bulletproof butt on many cars without fitting rear louvres whether you like the look of them or not.

I'd perhaps have you losing your "sponsorship " if you lost too many races over a certain time period.

I'm agree with that.

Or/and maybe this sponsor could be a licence period.

 

At my first idea, I was thinking than if you lost races, you could receive a malus.

And if their is a team, that could give others a 10% bonus from team sponsor.

 

Exemple :

1. Race win 5000$ (sponsor egochaser : +20% on 5000$) = 6000$

2. Race lost 4000$ (sponsor : sprunk : -10% on 4000$) = 3600$

3. Race lost 3500$ (sponsor : no sponsor) = 3500$

4. Race lost 3000$ (sponsor egochaser : +10% on 3000$) = 3300$

 

Also for luscius who complains about sponsor bonus. That's not 10% or 20% who really change the deal.

[Lucius Aelius]

 

I'll say that if I can have a sponsor in the race without having to paint their name on my car I wouldn't care so much (this is a video game after all and they're not real companies, I just don't like the way it looks to have random and often colorful words scrawled all over my car), but having a race bonus tied to an appearance option which not everyone would like is just not a good idea (sure the people who like this idea would think it's great, but there are other people in the world besides you and they deserve fair consideration, which giving yourself a bonus and leaving them out would not be doing). The livery all looks nice enough for what it is (I certainly have no criticisms for the quality of your photoshops), I just don't want it on my cars, and any game mechanic which would encourage me to use it (and punish me if I don't) isn't inclusive of everyone's aesthetic preferences, but rather it needlessly disregards them.

Maybe if this were a game about legitimate racers competing in sponsored vehicles then this idea would be more fitting, but that's not what this game is and is instead about criminals doing illegal activities, street racing included. Since when do illegal street racers have official corporate sponsors? And if they ever did, I for one have trouble imagining a legitimate company associating pulblicly with criminals and as such if they were going to sponsor a criminal they would do so quietly (and not by plastering their good name over some criminal's car).

 

I'd rather not go into the second paragraph in your post because there are a ton of inconsistencies in that argument.

 

So the first paragraph. The people that didn't have the sponsors wouldn't be punished, they just wouldn't be rewarded. And you wouldn't be able to get paid by a sponsor if you don't actually display the sponsor on your car, because then you aren't advertising the sponsor's brand. Don't like having the liveries, don't get paid, simple as that.

Lol, inconsistencies? Name a single street racer who's ever been sponsored by a legitimate company and get back to me. Also yes I would be effectively punished by not using liveries because I would want the extra money but wouldn't want to make my car look like it belongs at a gay pride parade in the process (no offense to gay pride parades, I actually marched in one with some friends once to show my support, doesn't mean I want my car looking like a damn rainbow). Having bonuses for sponsors would make sense of we were role playing as pro racers, but that's not who we're roll playing as and it would make no sense for us to race with sponsors in the context of this game (as well as being needlessly unfair to those with different aesthetic preferences).

[RDT33]

 

 

I'll say that if I can have a sponsor in the race without having to paint their name on my car I wouldn't care so much (this is a video game after all and they're not real companies, I just don't like the way it looks to have random and often colorful words scrawled all over my car), but having a race bonus tied to an appearance option which not everyone would like is just not a good idea (sure the people who like this idea would think it's great, but there are other people in the world besides you and they deserve fair consideration, which giving yourself a bonus and leaving them out would not be doing). The livery all looks nice enough for what it is (I certainly have no criticisms for the quality of your photoshops), I just don't want it on my cars, and any game mechanic which would encourage me to use it (and punish me if I don't) isn't inclusive of everyone's aesthetic preferences, but rather it needlessly disregards them.

Maybe if this were a game about legitimate racers competing in sponsored vehicles then this idea would be more fitting, but that's not what this game is and is instead about criminals doing illegal activities, street racing included. Since when do illegal street racers have official corporate sponsors? And if they ever did, I for one have trouble imagining a legitimate company associating pulblicly with criminals and as such if they were going to sponsor a criminal they would do so quietly (and not by plastering their good name over some criminal's car).

I'd rather not go into the second paragraph in your post because there are a ton of inconsistencies in that argument.

 

So the first paragraph. The people that didn't have the sponsors wouldn't be punished, they just wouldn't be rewarded. And you wouldn't be able to get paid by a sponsor if you don't actually display the sponsor on your car, because then you aren't advertising the sponsor's brand. Don't like having the liveries, don't get paid, simple as that.

Lol, inconsistencies? Name a single street racer who's ever been sponsored by a legitimate company and get back to me. Also yes I would be effectively punished by not using liveries because I would want the extra money but wouldn't want to make my car look like it belongs at a gay pride parade in the process (no offense to gay pride parades, I actually marched in one with some friends once to show my support, doesn't mean I want my car looking like a damn rainbow). Having bonuses for sponsors would make sense of we were role playing as pro racers, but that's not who we're roll playing as and it would make no sense for us to race with sponsors in the context of this game (as well as being needlessly unfair to those with different aesthetic preferences).

 

Name a single street racer that has access to tanks and military jets. The game isn't about realism bud. We are already able to have sponsors on the Sanchez? Plus look at it like this; Everyone gets paid the same base amount of money if they win a race, right? Well if the liveries were present, an extra $1000 or $2000 would just be placed on top of that base payment. It's like in Forza where you get paid more for increasing the difficulty of the races. It isn't a punishment, it's a reward for the people that are ok with having their cars "look like rainbows."

[Lucius Aelius]

^Dirt bikes and stunt planes are often painted with livery without the company whose logo is displayed sponsoring that vehicle in a race, and the idea that you'd think those are like that because those vehicles are sponsored is hilarious. Also lol at reward for people who don't mind looking like rainbows, so how about people who look like rainbows get extra good sport points too and extra pay after jobs? It's all equally random and senseless.

 

As for street racers stealing jets and tanks, NO ONE in real life actually steals those things, but if anyone were going to it would be criminals and we are role playing as criminals so that fits. We aren't role playing as pro racers so racing with sponsors just doesn't fit no matter how much you like the idea, this is GTA not Forza. Go play an actual racing game if you want to have your car look ridiculous and get paid for it, leave GTA to the people who want to role play as criminals and have their cars look badass while they do it.

 

And please come back with a proper retort if you want me to respond, your reasoning is seriously lacking and as funny as it is to laugh at I have better things to do.

[Vehicles]

@RDT33 Gta is not only build for racing,racing is only a part of the game.As you can see when you reach level 100 your member title switches to kingpin.It's not impossible for a kingpin to own a tank.

 

OT:I support the racing livery idea but i think the racing liveries may need to be unlocked.But the sponsorship bonus should not be available since no company will openly support a street racer.

[RDT33]

Wow, the idiocy is mind blowing.

[Lucius Aelius]

And @OP: it's a fine enough idea you got there if this weren't GTA, but it is GTA and with all due respect I'll say again this idea just doesn't fit, criminals street racing don't have sponsors and as happy as I would be for people to have variety in their choice of paint job they shouldn't get a bonus for any one kind of paint job over another. If this were a game about pro racers your idea would be great and entirely appropriate, that simply isn't what this game is about though and I can't respond to your idea with anything besides saying that the bonus for using livery is a bad idea (or at least bonus money is a bad idea, like I said bonus RP is something no one would care about losing out on).

 

Wow, the idiocy is mind blowing.

lol, that's all you've got huh? Nice thing about using logic to argue is that you leave people with nothing better to say in response than sh*t like that.

[RDT33]

And @OP: it's a fine enough idea you got there if this weren't GTA, but it is GTA and with all due respect I'll say again this idea just doesn't fit, criminals street racing don't have sponsors and as happy as I would be for people to have variety in their choice of paint job they shouldn't get a bonus for any one kind of paint job over another. If this were a game about pro racers your idea would be great and entirely appropriate, that simply isn't what this game is about though and I can't respond to your idea with anything besides saying that the bonus for using livery is a bad idea (or at least bonus money is a bad idea, like I said bonus RP is something no one would care about losing out on).

Wow, the idiocy is mind blowing.

lol, that's all you've got huh? Nice thing about using logic to argue is that you leave people with nothing better to say in response than sh*t like that.

 

No, I provided several logical arguments in support of OP's idea, and you just went back to your flimsy, "This is GTA, not Forza, blah blah blah" argument. Short term memory loss must be an awful thing to have.

[Djeli]

Name a single street racer who's ever been sponsored by a legitimate company and get back to me.

 

Gumball 3000. Open to rich people and awesome cars in non close roads.

Clearly illegal and disaprove by European Governments.

 

Then, says me than Rayban,Adidas, HTC are not sponsors.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Djeli

[Lucius Aelius]

 

And @OP: it's a fine enough idea you got there if this weren't GTA, but it is GTA and with all due respect I'll say again this idea just doesn't fit, criminals street racing don't have sponsors and as happy as I would be for people to have variety in their choice of paint job they shouldn't get a bonus for any one kind of paint job over another. If this were a game about pro racers your idea would be great and entirely appropriate, that simply isn't what this game is about though and I can't respond to your idea with anything besides saying that the bonus for using livery is a bad idea (or at least bonus money is a bad idea, like I said bonus RP is something no one would care about losing out on).

 

Wow, the idiocy is mind blowing.

 

lol, that's all you've got huh? Nice thing about using logic to argue is that you leave people with nothing better to say in response than sh*t like that.

 

No, I provided several logical arguments in support of OP's idea, and you just went back to your flimsy, "This is GTA, not Forza, blah blah blah" argument. Short term memory loss must be an awful thing to have.Lmao, if you call those arguments logical you desperately need to go back to school.

 

And @OP I don't even know what that's a picture of and have no way of knowing whether it's applicable or not, good job trying to get a proper back and forth going though because I definitely didn't expect that response, but I'm going to need you to elaborate more on that picture (what illegal street races has it been used in, why is it the sponsors haven't been charged with funding illegal activities, etc) if you want me to take that seriously.

Edited April 27, 2014 by Lucius Aelius

[RDT33]

I'm done. You have no logical arguments yourself, and one can never convince another on the internet that they are wrong, so I'm done.

[Djeli]

And @OP I don't even know what that's a picture of and have no way of knowing whether it's applicable or not, good job trying to get a proper back and forth going though because I definitely didn't expect that response, but I'm going to need you to elaborate more on that picture (what illegal street races has it been used in, why is it the sponsors haven't been charged with funding illegal activities, etc) if you want me to take that seriously.

Gumball 3000 is a rallye in US, European and Asian roads with supercars for rich people.

You have to pay 60000$ for your first participation.

This race exist since 1999.

 

In Europe, the police and goverments join their force to stop racers from Gumball who are pushing the limitation of European roads.

Because it's dangerous for other people on the road who are not closed.

Then, this is a part of illegal racing like street race.

I don't know if sponsors pay the reward to the pound or if it's the drivers.

 

In 2007, Netherland and German cops stop the race.

The race moved to Turkey by plane and they change the track.

 

But this is on the road since 15 years.

[Lucius Aelius]

I'm done. You have no logical arguments yourself, and one can never convince another on the internet that they are wrong, so I'm done.

Lol, giving up that easily huh? And my arguments are plenty logical, especially that "This is GTA not Forza blah blah blah" bit you so pointedly chose not to even try to argue with (surprise surprise). Please come back if you think of anything else, I can always use another laugh.

[Lucius Aelius]

 

And @OP I don't even know what that's a picture of and have no way of knowing whether it's applicable or not, good job trying to get a proper back and forth going though because I definitely didn't expect that response, but I'm going to need you to elaborate more on that picture (what illegal street races has it been used in, why is it the sponsors haven't been charged with funding illegal activities, etc) if you want me to take that seriously.

 

Gumball 3000 is a rallye in US, European and Asian roads with supercars for rich people.

You have to pay 60000$ for your first participation.

This race exist since 1999.

 

In Europe, the police and goverments join their force to stop racers from Gumball who are pushing the limitation of European roads.

Because it's dangerous for other people on the road who are not closed.

Then, this is a part of illegal racing like street race.

I don't know if sponsors pay the reward to the pound or if it's the drivers.

 

In 2007, Netherland and German cops stop the race.

The race moved to Turkey by plane and they change the track.

 

But this is on the road since 15 years.

Okay so that's an illegal street race then but I can't imagine those sponsors getting away with putting their names on the cars and not getting in trouble for it, and unless you can post a link to somewhere legitimate which clearly states that the sponsors did plaster their names on those cars, did fund illegal activities and didn't get in trouble for it then it's still not an applicable point.