UnsayableAxis71 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hey readers, I have a firm theory of the GTA V DLC. I know it a long read but it is worth it, I need opinions and you guys will get information. Although, this is a THEORY and it is not confirmed, but it has evidences. I watched a video where the player shoots Johnny Klebitz and the sceen flashes (kill confirmed). It is this video - So then I experimented with this and then started messing about in GTA V and then I noticed something. When a pedestrian is killed, ambulance arrives and the people inside get out but an ambulance never stops for Johnny K or Ashley (if you have killed her). But an ambulance drives past them, so the game doesn't treat Johnny dead. Now I know that it is a bit vague but something else popped up and I should thank Terrell8967 for shedding some light onto this. I made a comment on the aforementioned video and he replied to help me on this. Apparently, he was Franklin and he met Trevor (before unlocking him!) and killed him. Just like what happened to Johnny, the ambulance just drove past Trevor. Even if we didn't unlock Trevor, we could kill him. And just like that, we can kill Johnny without unlocking him (in the DLC). The ambulance didn't stop for both of them so it could be possible. And after that, I watched this video. Forget the first bit, the main subject is what is important. DJ Whoo Kid is "about to be in the next Grand Theft Auto Game taking place in New York again". Liberty city is based on New York and we know from EFLC that GTA DLCs are very big so it could be considered as an entirely separate game. He was also in previous GTA VC doing ped voices. Maybe he has a bigger role in this. The main point is that it will take place in LC so it might be about Johnny K. returning to LC or him leaving LC to LS. Rockstar went wild in creating Undead Nightmare so the may even create a Ghost DLC with us playing as Johnny or us escaping him as he scares everyone with his anger. Drunken Cowboy and theGTAking101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny-Vain Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I do hope not, going back to grey boring Liberty City? As DLC? sure why not, as GTA 6? No way. and to be honest even if Johnny is still alive, I hope hes just an NPC if he does appear in any DLC. Nightrage, Sussus Amongus and Big Danny K 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRkL3AD3R Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not to be a dick, but I'm pretty sure you're just looking too hard at something that was meant to be simple. He's dead. He ain't coming back. All those little details about shooting him and ambulances not showing up, those are just game mechanics not functioning right because Rockstar didn't build them to work under these conditions. When a character dies in a cutscene you can bet your ass he's dead for good. Argon, GroundZero, donnits and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnsayableAxis71 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not to be a dick, but I'm pretty sure you're just looking too hard at something that was meant to be simple. He's dead. He ain't coming back. All those little details about shooting him and ambulances not showing up, those are just game mechanics not functioning right because Rockstar didn't build them to work under these conditions. When a character dies in a cutscene you can bet your ass he's dead for good. You are correct. It may be just simple but Rockstar was never straight forward, they always have something up their sleeve. Who knows, they might make you like him. I hated Trevor for killing Johnny K. but the I liked him in the future. Just like EFLC, they may have planned it already or they will show something else or maybe a straight up GTA 6. theGTAking101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not to be a dick, but I'm pretty sure you're just looking too hard at something that was meant to be simple. He's dead. He ain't coming back. All those little details about shooting him and ambulances not showing up, those are just game mechanics not functioning right because Rockstar didn't build them to work under these conditions. When a character dies in a cutscene you can bet your ass he's dead for good. Not only that, but the fact his body is still there in free-mode means you can, if you choose, fire in extra bullets or blow it up with an rpg etc, putting it beyond doubt. R* always respect player choice and don't introduce stuff that make one canonical and the other not. Much in the same way we won't see the ULPC guy again. You don't have to kill him in "The Wrap Up" but he can be killed. I thought JK was a great character, but I wouldn't get your hopes up about him coming back, unless they do some kind of prequel to the story (prior to "Mr Phillips", anyway). donnits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderNotThisAgain Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 You need to let go of Johnny. ADropInTheOcean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detective Phelps Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Johnny is dead. He isn't coming back. Unless R* made a zombie DLC. OP, you have to move on. A piece of Johnny's brain was on Trevor's shoes, so he is definitely dead! lizardman563 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deji Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Yeah, don't just arrive in the middle of cutscenes. The ambulance spawns are triggered the moment a random ped dies. In SA, they used to revive them and mission characters actually had a flag set so that ambulances wouldn't come and revive them if they died - not sure about others. This DJ Whoo Kid thing is odd. His involvement in GTA is hard to trace aside from some minor things. He may have produced some tracks which were featured on IV's 'Beat 102.7', but that was primarily DJ'd by Green Lantern and the other Hip Hop station by Premier. He's given a shout-out by R* for some mixtapes based around some of their games: http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/35631/because-its-friday-max-payne-the-mixtape-by-dj-whoo-kid-2002.html I gotta respect this dude, but why would he of anyone know about the next GTA? The Houser brothers are known to like Hip Hop, and DJ Pooh was very involved in GTA San Andreas and GTA V. He (DJ Pooh, not Whoo Kid) was creative consulter and a co-writer of GTA Online (so if anyone would know...?). Whoo Kid is also affiliated with Stretch Armstrong, who was DJ for one of GTA III's stations, so I really don't know. It's very possible that he will have something to do with the next GTA game, but him knowing where it's set now and his involvement in it would usually indicate quite a substantial progress on it already. Strange EDIT: Duh, it's DLC. Ok, I understand now Edited April 23, 2014 by Deji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im2akillerfish Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Like LSPD said, Trevor had part of Johnnys brain on his shoe. Later T blows up the camp where Johnnys coffin is, most likely destroying the coffin too. And people still think he is alive? Niobium, Detective Phelps and GroundZero 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectBlade Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) it would be awesome..but..Johny it's still a dick to me.. Never meant too much to gta series (my opinion). Edited April 23, 2014 by Perfect Blade xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonVegaSuarez Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Your DLC theory sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerceusSOZ Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Your DLC theory sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiizardii Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Stupid, very stupid. In my opinion that theory sucks. You cant survive getting stumped on your head with a piece of your f*ckin brain on the boot of a guy. It was just a thing R* did not see, that Johnny's model still blinked. Its nit picking that Johnny fanboys are such big cry babies. Johnny is dead, accept it. If you wanna say your final words to him, his blood stain is on the end of Trevor's shoe. Niobium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deji Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'd think that tiny thing about that DLC being set in New York would be more of an interesting line of discussion than bloody Johnny, but whatever... PineboxFiller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardman563 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I've got to be frank here. This sounds like a dlc you'd be offered at casino diners as a reward for purchasing the soup of the day. Let's face it. Johnny is dead, and he's not coming back. He has gone into the dustbin of gta history, as have the rest of the lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niobium Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Stupid, very stupid. In my opinion that theory sucks. You cant survive getting stumped on your head with a piece of your f*ckin brain on the boot of a guy. It was just a thing R* did not see, that Johnny's model still blinked. Its nit picking that Johnny fanboys are such big cry babies. Johnny is dead, accept it. If you wanna say your final words to him, his blood stain is on the end of Trevor's shoe. coming from a johnny "fanboy", i agree with this. this theory is dumb. i would prefer a DLC that shows an explanation for why johnny became a crying meth-addicted bitch who was dumb enough to get back with ashley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Stupid, very stupid. In my opinion that theory sucks. You cant survive getting stumped on your head with a piece of your f*ckin brain on the boot of a guy. It was just a thing R* did not see, that Johnny's model still blinked. Its nit picking that Johnny fanboys are such big cry babies. Johnny is dead, accept it. If you wanna say your final words to him, his blood stain is on the end of Trevor's shoe. coming from a johnny "fanboy", i agree with this. this theory is dumb. i would prefer a DLC that shows an explanation for why johnny became a crying meth-addicted bitch who was dumb enough to get back with ashley I could say that Johnny was addicted to Ashley and Ashley was addicted to crack. So crack just found the way to Johnny. Speaking of experience, it's the same way if your girlfriend drinks - she will keep offering you the glass, until you join in her drinking habit - that is, if she's kind. She will drift away from you and you will be tempted to follow her, because you love her. Because some people can't be saved, because they don't want to and you have to stop and save yourself. Also, Ghost Rider Johnny DLC. Edited April 23, 2014 by Alvarez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTechPoTaToCHIP Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 You cant base your theory on what is most likely a developer oversight. Besides, the lost brotherhood confirmed Johnny K. was dead in Friends Reunited (And don't say that they faked his death because these are a bunch of dead beat bikers not the fib) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Yeah, Johnny is totally Alive, bro! him and Claude and CJ and Tommy are gonna team up and take down Trevor! Niobium and Agem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Some of you really let your imaginations run wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneysLeftNut Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Horrible Thread. Jaysus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMathers3501 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yeah, no. Hey look, I like Johnny too. He was one of my favorite protags before GTAV. But, uh... Yeah, nah, he ain't comin' back... Sussus Amongus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I will pwn you newbs Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure Johnny is pretty f*cking dead. I've killed NPCs before and they were still moving their mouths and breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Valentine Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I find the people that say "This theory sucks" and Any other harshful comments rude. It's a theory, no need to get all abusive. It wont happen in my opinion, but it would be interesting to see how Johnny got himself into such a mess. By the way OP, I thought it was a smart theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deji Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Forget the first bit, the main subject is what is important. DJ Whoo Kid is "about to be in the next Grand Theft Auto Game taking place in New York again". Liberty city is based on New York and we know from EFLC that GTA DLCs are very big so it could be considered as an entirely separate game. He was also in previous GTA VC doing ped voices. Maybe he has a bigger role in this. Jesus.. Am I the only one that felt that this was the only part of the original post worth even reading and looking into? There is news about it all over the web, yet GTAForums members are oblivious because the trivial topic of an old protagonists (who we'd likely never see again anyway) death came up. If I were R*, I'd be ashamed to have you as fans Edited April 24, 2014 by Deji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shattered-minds Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Now be honest; did you come up with this theory after viewing the evidence, or come up with the theory and then try to find evidence to prove it? Because it seems like the latter. If it was the former, you clearly didn't look at all the evidence before making your conclusion. I highly doubt that Liberty City would be DLC. With all the new audio and texture files, yet alone all of the other stuff; how big would the DLC be? 8-9gb. Thats an entire new game's worth of data! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antaxi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 funny glitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnsayableAxis71 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Now be honest; did you come up with this theory after viewing the evidence, or come up with the theory and then try to find evidence to prove it? Because it seems like the latter. If it was the former, you clearly didn't look at all the evidence before making your conclusion. I highly doubt that Liberty City would be DLC. With all the new audio and texture files, yet alone all of the other stuff; how big would the DLC be? 8-9gb. Thats an entire new game's worth of data! I came up with the evidence first, the theory second. BTW EFLC was made into an entirely separate game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnsayableAxis71 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Stupid, very stupid. In my opinion that theory sucks. You cant survive getting stumped on your head with a piece of your f*ckin brain on the boot of a guy. It was just a thing R* did not see, that Johnny's model still blinked. Its nit picking that Johnny fanboys are such big cry babies. Johnny is dead, accept it. If you wanna say your final words to him, his blood stain is on the end of Trevor's shoe. It is a theory, not confirmed facts. Some people can still survive a shot to the head. But I admit, there is a very minimal chance of Johnny coming back. Yeah, no. Hey look, I like Johnny too. He was one of my favorite protags before GTAV. But, uh... Yeah, nah, he ain't comin' back... Yeah I suppose, but there are people that really like Johnny and this COULD make them happy. Yeah I doubt he'll come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deji Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) He could come back as a vegetable, of course. Kept alive by a feeding tube and not being able to do anything of his own free will, except a slight spasm whenever he tries to feel an emotion EDIT:Or give him a machine which lets him answer simple questions. I'm thinking something like this... EDIT2: Of course, there's less of Johnny to save. He'd need something more like a Dalek robot case, where he's a pot of green goo controlling it. Edited April 24, 2014 by Deji ADropInTheOcean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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