Is the theme of The High Life and Business Update too alike?

[§†range]

Really other than clothes and cars the game is seriously lacking in objectives. Level unlocks, new missions, some sort of purpose of progression. I tried some capture today, and it could just be me, but it was absolutely horrible pvp.

[LordVukodlak]

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

[luisniko]

Because Rockstar is in their own paradox again?

 

If they make a low-life theme like Gangsta Pack, it'd be contradicting than what they want you to be at first.

[JOEsAGGRESSIVE]

I'd like a grunge DLC period

with of course the music of that genre as well

[Happy_Killstick]

Tbh i don't give a damn about new vehicles.

 

All i care about is New Clothes, Hairstyles, Accesories and Tattoos

[Bongsquirrel]

absolutely.

[DBrasco]

They should bring out a "degenerate dlc". Would be more appropriate for the average GTA player.

Edited April 16, 2014 by DBrasco

[budcat]

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

 

I don't understand this attitude among gamers. This "f*ck me, plz" attitude is already destroying the industry.

[The Angel King]

 

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

 

I don't understand this attitude among gamers. This "f*ck me, plz" attitude is already destroying the industry.

 

Yep. Apparently it works for companies like Blizzard/Activision, EA, Etc. Only thing I can do is not buy their garbage.....yet they still make millions.....it also has ruined the quality of PC games. Nothing "state of the art" comes out anymore....

[iProGam3r]

Ya that's what we need....trailers instead of apartments, more rat loaders, sweatpants, plaid shirts, and chewing tobacco.

More rat loader the no bed option instead of glitching for it and a remove rust would satisfy my rat loader needs! And some grille or rear bumper mods for the picador!

[MikeyBelic]

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

[budcat]

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

 

No he's really not. Let me sell you a cheeseburger and give you the slice of cheese in six months.

[MikeyBelic]

 

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

 

No he's really not. Let me sell you a cheeseburger and give you the slice of cheese in six months.

 

If you think the amount of content GTA had when it was released isn't full game material then you're crazy. It still had more content than 90% of games released these days, and if it was like those games released these days we'd be paying $15 a pop for the updates they're giving us for free.

Edited April 16, 2014 by MikeyBelic

[The Angel King]

Not taking sides, but this is a valid point. ^^^

[budcat]

 

 

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

 

No he's really not. Let me sell you a cheeseburger and give you the slice of cheese in six months.

 

If you think the amount of content GTA had when it was released isn't full game material then you're crazy. It still had more content than 90% of games released these days, and if it was like those games released these days we'd be paying $15 a pop for the updates they're giving us for free.

 

I really don't disagree, but the amount of nickel and diming in GTAV is ridiculous. You got special items for people who paid 120 some dollars for the game, GTAO suffers from many flaws designed to drain players' money in an attempt to sell cash cards, and DLC could be additional content developed past the development stage, but more often than not is just locked content until they decide to release it.

 

The fact you can't even tell they're milking your tits is just bad. I think you just have to be over a certain age to remember when you bought a game and were entitled to the product, rather than renting a license, etc. Times have truly changed. You can't deny that, no matter how slick games have become. Don't get me wrong, GTAV is my GOTY without hesitation. Amazing game. But it still scares me to think how GTA6 will turn out with this precedent set.

Edited April 16, 2014 by budcat

[AdmiralAmmunation]

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

[The Angel King]

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

How is it made for rich people? There isn't enough content atm..... There is just no reason to be so poor you have to buy a cash card. Just my opinion though.

[budcat]

 

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

How is it made for rich people? There isn't enough content atm..... There is just no reason to be so poor you have to buy a cash card. Just my opinion though.

 

The very existence of cash cards changed the way they went about the whole thing.

[glass pipe]

I really wish rockstar would add in more "gangsta" clothing. Seriously, there is only two fitted baseball caps. I wish they would take a step back from the business suit crap.

[SoggyLuke]

 

The Dangerous Business pack was great.

I agree with this sentence. I wouldn't have my baby without it.

 

 

OT: Yeah, some variety in DLC themes would be nice, but no matter what the content of the DLC is, there's going to be someone who complains.

 

 

Don't tell me you genuinely think that looks good? f*ck me some peoples taste in cars on this game lol

[The Angel King]

 

 

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

How is it made for rich people? There isn't enough content atm..... There is just no reason to be so poor you have to buy a cash card. Just my opinion though.

 

The very existence of cash cards changed the way they went about the whole thing.

 

Perhaps. That is just how games are going. It blew my mind when I seen you could buy credits for Gran Turismo even. Thing is though(and I don't mean to defend), it is not hard to get money in GTAO. It is suppose to take time to buy things.

Personally I think the money hacks n such, are what put a sour taste in every ones mouth. The game like most online games are meant to be a grind. Those who don't have time to grind like us adults, have the option to spend money. I don't see how that is a problem, seeing how there is no "pay to win". You can't buy an advantage in this game.

I really wish rockstar would add in more "gangsta" clothing. Seriously, there is only two fitted baseball caps. I wish they would take a step back from the business suit crap.

Perhaps you should play Saints Row. The era of "gansta" stuff is about gone from anything mainstream. It's not cool to have your pants down below your rear, talk with a lisp, throwin gangsigns, walking with a limp, starting and ending sentences with n*g*a, smokin all der ever der, slangin drugs and etc. No "normal" people take those people seriously.... Personally if this stuff was in the game it wouldn't bother me. I would just have more targets to blow up and laugh at.

Edited April 16, 2014 by The Angel King

[budcat]

 

 

 

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

How is it made for rich people? There isn't enough content atm..... There is just no reason to be so poor you have to buy a cash card. Just my opinion though.

 

The very existence of cash cards changed the way they went about the whole thing.

 

Perhaps. That is just how games are going. It blew my mind when I seen you could buy credits for Gran Turismo even. Thing is though(and I don't mean to defend), it is not hard to get money in GTAO. It is suppose to take time to buy things.

Personally I think the money hacks n such, are what put a sour taste in every ones mouth. The game like most online games are meant to be a grind. Those who don't have time to grind like us adults, have the option to spend money. I don't see how that is a problem, seeing how there is no "pay to win". You can't buy an advantage in this game.

 

People have talked at great length about how much more fun the game could be if you didn't feel so restrained by your bank roll. The prevalence of glitching and money hacks illustrates better than anything the reality of this pressure and how universally it is felt.

 

Personally I think the MMO grind is ridiculous. Why is it that diaper-wearing man-children with no jobs set the standard for online games? Why must they be a Sisyphean task? Because they were designed to be one step up from slot machines, where players feel the need to put in one more quarter, or in our case, one more hour. It's another knife in the back with very purposeful psychology.

 

The problem with the industry today is the cynical attitude. Anything for another buck, anything to keep you coming back. The whole purpose of these trickle DLCs is to keep us around until they finally get their sh*t together and develop the product they advertised.

[Gallioni]

Maybe they seperated the update to two parts so we wouldn't complain about the lack of content?

Edited April 16, 2014 by Gallioni Pepperoni

[MikeyBelic]

 

 

 

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

 

No he's really not. Let me sell you a cheeseburger and give you the slice of cheese in six months.

 

If you think the amount of content GTA had when it was released isn't full game material then you're crazy. It still had more content than 90% of games released these days, and if it was like those games released these days we'd be paying $15 a pop for the updates they're giving us for free.

 

I really don't disagree, but the amount of nickel and diming in GTAV is ridiculous. You got special items for people who paid 120 some dollars for the game, GTAO suffers from many flaws designed to drain players' money in an attempt to sell cash cards, and DLC could be additional content developed past the development stage, but more often than not is just locked content until they decide to release it.

 

The fact you can't even tell they're milking your tits is just bad. I think you just have to be over a certain age to remember when you bought a game and were entitled to the product, rather than renting a license, etc. Times have truly changed. You can't deny that, no matter how slick games have become. Don't get me wrong, GTAV is my GOTY without hesitation. Amazing game. But it still scares me to think how GTA6 will turn out with this precedent set.

 

 

No one is milking my tits. I haven't spent a cent on GTA Online and I bought the second option for pre-order, not the second. This is how games are going, with the way the economy has changed, the rising cost of production to make people happy because of how 'posh' they want things to look and a number of things that are out of the hands of both us and the developers. That's if there's a GTA 6, I don't know if R* will go that way, new consoles are fighting for life I'm sure. (No idea just a presumption)

[ChrisV]

i'm still trying to find the buisness part of the buisness update

so i'm guessing the highlife update will be the same, useless without any high.

 

should be called the life update, overpriced cars and clothing with no revenue

Edited April 16, 2014 by ChrisV

[theNGclan]

Why not add a DLC that adds a basic WHITE f*cking T-SHIRT?

[budcat]

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously the free dlc is not free don't keep on say hey it's free don't complaint.

 

They just cut the entire game in pieces and let you download piece by piece. Basically you paid the original price for a unfinished game, and then download the crap-like unfinished part which is stated as a "free dlc".

 

Don't be a fool. You always paid for any free sh*t. Free is just a marketing terms.

You are the fool sir.

 

No he's really not. Let me sell you a cheeseburger and give you the slice of cheese in six months.

 

If you think the amount of content GTA had when it was released isn't full game material then you're crazy. It still had more content than 90% of games released these days, and if it was like those games released these days we'd be paying $15 a pop for the updates they're giving us for free.

 

I really don't disagree, but the amount of nickel and diming in GTAV is ridiculous. You got special items for people who paid 120 some dollars for the game, GTAO suffers from many flaws designed to drain players' money in an attempt to sell cash cards, and DLC could be additional content developed past the development stage, but more often than not is just locked content until they decide to release it.

 

The fact you can't even tell they're milking your tits is just bad. I think you just have to be over a certain age to remember when you bought a game and were entitled to the product, rather than renting a license, etc. Times have truly changed. You can't deny that, no matter how slick games have become. Don't get me wrong, GTAV is my GOTY without hesitation. Amazing game. But it still scares me to think how GTA6 will turn out with this precedent set.

 

 

No one is milking my tits. I haven't spent a cent on GTA Online and I bought the second option for pre-order, not the second. This is how games are going, with the way the economy has changed, the rising cost of production to make people happy because of how 'posh' they want things to look and a number of things that are out of the hands of both us and the developers. That's if there's a GTA 6, I don't know if R* will go that way, new consoles are fighting for life I'm sure. (No idea just a presumption)

 

I won't let anyone milk my tits either, and our reward is we get less game for it. Not a significantly smaller game, but we get less. That's just a fact. And as the trend continues we'll see less and less.

[Crunch McThornbody]

They do sound too similar, I got asked if my characters clothes were from The High Life and I said yes because I thought they meant the Business Update.

[The Angel King]

 

 

 

 

Yes. I'm sick of R* just releasing content for rich people, it's obviously a cash card cash grab.

 

And don't say 'It's free shut up'

I would rather pay for a good DLC than get sh*t free ones, at least payed ones would add good content.

These free ones aren't adding much.

I would be happy with that argument if they're were payed DLC updates with good content.

Free does not mean good quality.

How is it made for rich people? There isn't enough content atm..... There is just no reason to be so poor you have to buy a cash card. Just my opinion though.

 

The very existence of cash cards changed the way they went about the whole thing.

 

Perhaps. That is just how games are going. It blew my mind when I seen you could buy credits for Gran Turismo even. Thing is though(and I don't mean to defend), it is not hard to get money in GTAO. It is suppose to take time to buy things.

Personally I think the money hacks n such, are what put a sour taste in every ones mouth. The game like most online games are meant to be a grind. Those who don't have time to grind like us adults, have the option to spend money. I don't see how that is a problem, seeing how there is no "pay to win". You can't buy an advantage in this game.

 

People have talked at great length about how much more fun the game could be if you didn't feel so restrained by your bank roll. The prevalence of glitching and money hacks illustrates better than anything the reality of this pressure and how universally it is felt.

 

Personally I think the MMO grind is ridiculous. Why is it that diaper-wearing man-children with no jobs set the standard for online games? Why must they be a Sisyphean task? Because they were designed to be one step up from slot machines, where players feel the need to put in one more quarter, or in our case, one more hour. It's another knife in the back with very purposeful psychology.

 

The problem with the industry today is the cynical attitude. Anything for another buck, anything to keep you coming back. The whole purpose of these trickle DLCs is to keep us around until they finally get their sh*t together and develop the product they advertised.

 

While I do agree with you, the point of a grind is to make the game last longer. Getting a good mix of that...well that's debatable. I do think that if there is a grind, it shouldn't be grinding the same content over and over.....it should scale as you get up in levels or unlocks and at the least only unlock cosmetic things and a few other perks. There should be a reward for "some" time spent.

I really dislike how FPS games are starting to have big grinds too. I don't want to level a week straight to get an RPG to even the playing field.

[budcat]

 

While I do agree with you, the point of a grind is to make the game last longer. Getting a good mix of that...well that's debatable. I do think that if there is a grind, it shouldn't be grinding the same content over and over.....it should scale as you get up in levels or unlocks and at the least only unlock cosmetic things and a few other perks. There should be a reward for "some" time spent.

I really dislike how FPS games are starting to have big grinds too. I don't want to level a week straight to get an RPG to even the playing field.

 

Yeah I get that it's to add some longevity, I'm not against the whole concept in general, I don't need instant gratification, but I'm just the type of person to watch the barometer. I've begun to smell a stink around the game industry over these last few years. There's been some really great developments and some really sh*tty ones. I'm just disappointed in R* for adopting some of the sh*ttier ones.