evd Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) Something that came into my mind a while ago. What would you say when all missions would actually have place in the lobby?There are some activities, like for instance car delivering, which can everybody interrupt and take the price for himself The whole LS would literally live. You could pass someone delivering a car for Simeon , while escorting friend to the Madrazo. Another person could distract police or help another group of players fight back the Lost Gang (which could obviously ask someone for a help by messages) The price for such experience would be probably mass douche interrupting etc, but would'nt be this great in a way? there is always private sessions, but the emptyness kills the vibe and adrenaline. Also there is still an option of raporting annoying players. And there would be heists where probably everyone would like to put their dirty hands on a pile of cash. Obviously players would'nt have known that there is a bank robbery excepot those who drive a police car and can hear the raports. what do you think about this idea? I consider this as a perfect formula, but mayby I'm wrong. Edited January 1, 2015 by evd MrCamo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly Aviator Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 They would have to redesign GTAO from scratch pretty much to be able to get this to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 mayby, Im not saying that this should be implemented in a next patch, but rather in GTA O v2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly Aviator Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) Well that could be possible on next gen for GTA VI, but not for a long time. In the meantime there's a MMOs and also a new game called the crew coming out which is similar to what you described, where the world is consistent and doesn't use instancing. Edited April 11, 2014 by Deadly Aviator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnails Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 As great as that sounds they should fix the freezing and get dedicated servers to host sessions first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guelah Papyrus Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Most likely not possible on the last version of consoles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCamo Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Awesome idea, but the game would crash horribly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean007 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The game itself is realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) The game itself is realistic well not that realistic since there are no missions in the lobby and either you shoot somebody, or pointlessly race. or doing mayheam. The whole idea of city as a living organism is to bring missions to the free roam. The only problem here can be difference between such mechanics on next generation, and the oprevious one, where the mehcanics would be comparable obsolete. The ps3 owners would must stick to this crap. but is this a real problem? does anyone complain about simplicity of SA or even IV nowadays? Times goes by and everyone want to play the new, polished versions. So now it would be a primary objective to remodel whole online. I can wait for this a year or even two, but this must be done, this way or another, sticking to current sollution is not an option in my opinion. Edited April 11, 2014 by evd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean007 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The game itself is realistic well not that realistic since there are no missions in the lobby and either you shoot somebody, or pointlessly race. or doing mayheam. The whole idea of city as a living organism is to bring missions to the free roam. The only problem here can be difference between such mechanics on next generation, and the oprevious one, where the mehcanics would be comparable obsolete. The ps3 owners would must stick to this crap. but is this a real problem? does anyone complain about simplicity of SA or even IV nowadays? Times goes by and everyone want to play the new, polished versions. So now it would be a primary objective to remodel whole online. I can wait for this a year or even two, but this must be done, this way or another, sticking to current sollution is not an option in my opinion. Are you talking about science, biology, math and sh*t? Im talking about the gameLol organism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean007 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) yes. This isnt educationzzzforumzz lol , thiis is gta forumzz Edited April 11, 2014 by McBean007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfalon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 The game itself is realistic well not that realistic since there are no missions in the lobby and either you shoot somebody, or pointlessly race. or doing mayheam. The whole idea of city as a living organism is to bring missions to the free roam. The only problem here can be difference between such mechanics on next generation, and the oprevious one, where the mehcanics would be comparable obsolete. The ps3 owners would must stick to this crap. but is this a real problem? does anyone complain about simplicity of SA or even IV nowadays? Times goes by and everyone want to play the new, polished versions. So now it would be a primary objective to remodel whole online. I can wait for this a year or even two, but this must be done, this way or another, sticking to current sollution is not an option in my opinion. Are you talking about science, biology, math and sh*t? Im talking about the gameLol organism yes. This isnt educationzzzforumzz lol , thiis is gta forumzz Found the slow one! Anyway, I totally agree with you OP, having everything take place in a open-world freeroam map would be very cool but I really doubt it's even possible. There are so many so many specific perequisites for your average instanced mission that would have to be loaded for every player in the session at once, even the ones not participating in the mission per say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jizzle2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I thought it would be like that for tennis and golf before online came out but it would be super hard for them to get right for missions maybe next get gta online but it would be really hard because there would be so many factors to mess it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Anyway, I totally agree with you OP, having everything take place in a open-world freeroam map would be very cool but I really doubt it's even possible. There are so many so many specific perequisites for your average instanced mission that would have to be loaded for every player in the session at once, even the ones not participating in the mission per say. I know it would be hard, but most MMO's works in such ways. Current missions are very simple, they consists of actors, carriable objects and vehicles. Everything could load constantly in the background. Maybe its a matter of cloud gaming and stabile avarage-fast internet connection. Edited April 12, 2014 by evd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Michael Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) That would be crazy! Lol, I can imagine somebody doing Titan of a Job and a Jet troll just coming in and shooting them down. That would probably require 32-64 player lobbies for that to become a reality. That sh*t would be beyond chaotic tho! Edited April 12, 2014 by SirMichaelRocks23 Phantomspirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Yeah, that would be crazy as f--k! Anyways, such big airplane should be guarded by 2 armed buzzards Besides, noone would know that you're delivering Titan. As I wrote above, sometimes your enemies could offer other players to take you down for $ but it should be balanced somehow. any ideas? Edited April 12, 2014 by evd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Ok, I ve just figured out how this should work. The key here, is to having reputation system known from GTA 2, where the more you have done work for someone, the more they liked you. And vice versa. Every action would give negatvie and positive respect points, but the trick to not to get those negative, closing way to special featrures from someone, is to wear disguise. This would trigger a message for others players with good reputation to get help and kill masked players. And now you have the take the risk and play open cards with your opponents, and let the bar go negative, or to deal with other players. I see that this isnt to most perfect way of execution this idea, but is all I have for now, anyone would like to add something/reinvent whole concept? also please put this thread into concept's section. I think I made it when there was no concept subforum. Edited January 1, 2015 by evd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbone Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) Your idea is great but the changes needed would take a long time and R* seems to have enough challenges with what is in place now. Also R* is way overdue with heists or even adding something like a couple of new Survivals. Currently gang attacks, store robberies, crate drop,Simeon's list, armored trucks,and Lester's targets allow the entire lobby to share the experience together. With that full lobbies often lag ,glitch or freez. Adding contact missions would be great but how well would it all work if different missions were active at one time? The time of day could not be set like in some missions are now. GTA 5 off and online is old and is what it is. In my opinion R* wasted time,money,and resources on Gta 5 for the new gen and pc. I would rather have a new,built from the ground up,GTA SIX. Certainly in hopes that much was learned from Gta 5 mistakes. Gta 5 is game of the year 2013/14 imo, but it's time to move on to Gta 6. Edited December 31, 2014 by jazzbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomspirit Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 You would never be able to get to,do,or complete a Mission....silly idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) You would never be able to get to,do,or complete a Mission....silly idea... well I manage to deliver over 50 cars for simeon, get more than 40 drop crates (which, 20% of them were special ones), attack dozens of armored trucks. And Im playing usualy alone with 15 random players. my verdict is that You dont need any crew to play Online modes, and thats sad. Besides, 3-4 active missions aint that much. Sure You'ld need stable internet connection, and bugless code, but its achievable. The time goes by, so does games and the progress. Im not saying that it is needed right now. NO. For now, I want more cities to play the present recipe. And it will took respecitvely maybe few years to make that. After that Rockstar will have to change only the lobby code. few years are a lot of time for that. Edited January 1, 2015 by evd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomspirit Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 EVD,there are too many Chumps online,who will do anything to sabotage a mission.... Believe me it wouldn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evd Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 yeah I know, but already You have an option to not to play with them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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