Official GTAV Whine and Complain Thread

[t-p-d-a]

4 hours ago, ATP2555 said:

I hate how you can cycle forward through weapons while in a vehicle, but not backwards. 

"enhanced gameplay"

[Ondr4H]

8 minutes ago, Rm93 said:

Sam Houser delighted with the continued success of GTA V by the third generation. We want VI!! 

 

 

https://ir.take2games.com/news-releases/news-release-details/grand-theft-auto-v-and-gta-online-now-available-playstation-5

I have what you need.

Proceeds to scam people

Thanks for the money, suckers...

Then they run away...

Edited March 17 by Ondr4H

[Thomas Cavendish]

 

[LittleJesus]

13 hours ago, ATP2555 said:

I hate how you can cycle forward through weapons while in a vehicle, but not backwards. 

You can cycle forward/backwards on PS4 with the touchpad, PS5 must have this feature too

[Guest]

16 hours ago, ATP2555 said:

I hate how you can cycle forward through weapons while in a vehicle, but not backwards. 

Which platform? On PC you could also add keys to cycle both ways IIRC, but it's been ages since I last played and E&E didn't do anything interesting so I just went back to IV/EFLC and San Andreas (OG version) instead.

[Lock n' Stock]

19 hours ago, Thomas Cavendish said:

Great video, the chapter exposing the bullsh*t that is "Seamless Character Switching" was a real eye-opener.

 

They're a bunch of dirty f*cking liars and scammers.

Edited March 18 by Lock n' Stock

[gtadrive]

On 3/16/2022 at 7:36 PM, Need For Madness Auto said:

 

Clip by @Len Lfc  

this is how reflections were done in this game since 2013, or even since gta iv i cant remember. They use realtime reflection probe on the camera position to capture low-res / lod world around.

[Badman_]

Not trying to find excuses for Rockstar, but the practice of exaggeration or even straight up lies are something that have been plaguing videogame advertising for quite some time now. I guess overhyping things to impractical levels is more profitable than making sensible promises and delivering 'em.

Edited March 18 by Badman_
English.

[Lock n' Stock]

4 minutes ago, Badman_ said:

Not trying to find excuses for Rockstar, but the practice of exaggeration or even straight up lies are something that have been plaguing videogame advertising for quite some time now. I guess overhyping things to impractical levels is more profitable than making sensible promises and delivering 'em.

Why aren't they ever held accountable for this sh*t? You'd think there would be a good case for a false advertising lawsuit, but then again I'm not a law expert.

[H-G]

On 3/17/2022 at 12:32 AM, Badman_ said:

 

They were never great guys in my point of view, but they did have a quality standard that was unbeatable. Everytime Rockstar was about to release something we had almost certainty that it was going to be top-notch. This level of trust is hard to build and yet so easy to destroy.

Well, brother, I guess this is what having no head-to-head and equally-strong competitor leads to, they never really had any other rival company to deal with that could potentially yank away their crowd, so they kinda became enemies of themselves and just... fell from grace.

 

Thanks to that and the casual gamer crowd, they know nobody can take us away from them, they know the spotlight will always be there for them to steal each and every single time, even if they intend to walk into it just to openly take a sh*t on the stage in front of the audience. I guess they are fully well-aware by now that the fans and the peers aren't going anywhere, can't say so about the pissed-off die-hard fans (myself included) because 67.5% of the fans consist of just casual gamers nowadays.

[Badman_]

26 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Why aren't they ever held accountable for this sh*t? You'd think there would be a good case for a false advertising lawsuit, but then again I'm not a law expert.

 

If I'm not mistaken some people did sue CDPR for false advertising because of Cyberpunk 2077.

Edited March 18 by Badman_
English.

[Rvfae]

53 minutes ago, Badman_ said:

Not trying to find excuses for Rockstar, but the practice of exaggeration or even straight up lies are something that have been plaguing videogame advertising for quite some time now. I guess overhyping things to impractical levels is more profitable than making sensible promises and delivering 'em.

 

31 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

Why aren't they ever held accountable for this sh*t? You'd think there would be a good case for a false advertising lawsuit, but then again I'm not a law expert.

 

Where did they once 'overhype' or exaggerate anything about this re release? For once, their marketing of a game actually matched the final product. Hell, I'd even go as far to say the marketing of this game was outright horrible and the final product itself isn't all that either but it's a decent enough upgrade.

[Lock n' Stock]

24 minutes ago, Rvfae said:

Where did they once 'overhype' or exaggerate anything about this re release? For once, their marketing of a game actually matched the final product. Hell, I'd even go as far to say the marketing of this game was outright horrible and the final product itself isn't all that either but it's a decent enough upgrade.

I mean, that trailer they released some time back was pretty much a farce, with it's claims of "Enhanced Gameplay" and Seamless Character Switching" (which as Dark Space's video above proves is a crock of sh*t). That "ray-tracing" isn't so hot either.

[Rvfae]

13 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said:

I mean, that trailer they released some time back was pretty much a farce, with it's claims of "Enhanced Gameplay" and Seamless Character Switching" (which as Dark Space's video above proves is a crock of sh*t). That "ray-tracing" isn't so hot either.

 

Literally everyone agreed that second trailer was horrible, as soon as it was revealed pretty much. No one even took those marketing buzzwords in the trailer at face value, hell there were memes made from them. Even the most casual player was smart enough to know this.

 

That second trailer pretty much told us what this game would be like aka no major improvements as we initially thought. Rockstar didn't falsely advertise this game for sh!t.

[blacklemon173]

On 3/16/2022 at 1:40 PM, kubon352 said:

I'll tell you. Having those in SP would not make you go into Online and possibly buy Shark Cards to acquire those vehicles. That's the whole reason why no new vehicles are appearing in story mode.

Quick rant incoming

 

I'm so f*cking pissed about this ... as if they haven't made enough money with Shark Cards already. I have given up every tiny bit of hope that we will someday see any new changes to SP.

 

This was THE opportunity, THE GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to finally update SP with new cars, weapons, hairstyles, clothing etc. Something many players have been asking them to do after 7 years of them doing nothing with it. When this game released on the 8th gen consoles (PS4, Xbox One), they included new vehicles, a new side mission, tons of other cool new features and ways to experience the game. With this though, f*cking nothing. Nothing at all. I remember joking around on this forum that the only thing they'll add is 2 new wallpapers for your in-game phone. Well, turns out we got even less than that.

 

I have to admit, I didn't expect that much with this version. Maybe 1–2 new cars or one new weapon, that's it. I thought to myself "that's about the least they could do, so I won't expect anything more", hoping that Rockstar, yes Rockstar, would surprise me positively. Learned my lesson. Not even ONE. SINLGE. NEW. ITEM. Are you f*cking kidding me?

And it's not that it would take them months to implement it, I hear it all the time. "They should focus on new titles instead of wasting time with SP". It would take them one single day at most. Maybe even a few hours. It's not like they have to put the entire production on GTA VI on halt and drop everything they're working on to update SP. All the assets are already existing and functioning, they don't have to create anything new, they just have to put them into SP. What's the f*cking issue? They even went out of their way to patch every single glitch that would let you bring Online vehicles into SP and now even added scripts to all new items to immediately despawn if appearing in SP. They really, really don't want people to enjoy Online content outside of GTA Online. 

 

And the worst part is, they don't even acknowledge it. They ignore SP's existence completely. And the playerbase complaining about it? Doesn't exist either. It's just GTA Online this, GTA Online that. Every new statement or announcement regarding GTA is just "hey guys look at these new adversary modes, hey guys earn 3x RP and money on stunt races, hey guys 15% off of your next Legendary Motorsport purchase (but only Online lololol)". It's so disheartening to see them pumping new content into GTA Online almost daily while SP is just slowly dying right next to it. Imagine story mode having something like Benny's workshop, the ability to buy additional garages, an insurance system for your car, a casino, the same amount of cosmetic options etc. It would make story mode much more fun and interesting. Instead we still have it in the same state they left it in 2015 after the Ill Gotten Gains Part II update came out, when they decided to just sh*t on all story mode players and stopped updating it – because they realized people could just test out the new cars before buying them in GTA Online, and it would hurt their poor Shark Card sales.

 

Is it too much to ask to give SP some content too for a change? I'm not even asking for every single Online feature, just the stuff that would make sense would already cut it. Things like the CEO office, warehouses can stay in GTA Online for all I care, doesn't make much sense to have something like that in SP. 

 

I don't even know why they bothered to bring story mode to PS5 either honestly, they genuinely don't care about that game at all anymore. But hey, the one thing they do care about is the free 10 dollars from every fan that thought the "expanded"-ness would also bring anything to story mode. 

[blacklemon173]

On 3/17/2022 at 5:43 AM, ATP2555 said:

I hate how you can cycle forward through weapons while in a vehicle, but not backwards. 

I think that's only possible on PlayStation if you swipe left on the touch pad.

[H-G]

21 minutes ago, blacklemon173 said:

Quick rant incoming

 

I'm so f*cking pissed about this ... as if they haven't made enough money with Shark Cards already. I have given up every tiny bit of hope that we will someday see any new changes to SP.

 

This was THE opportunity, THE GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to finally update SP with new cars, weapons, hairstyles, clothing etc. Something many players have been asking them to do after 7 years of them doing nothing with it. When this game released on the 8th gen consoles (PS4, Xbox One), they included new vehicles, a new side mission, tons of other cool new features and ways to experience the game. With this though, f*cking nothing. Nothing at all. I remember joking around on this forum that the only thing they'll add is 2 new wallpapers for your in-game phone. Well, turns out we got even less than that.

 

I have to admit, I didn't expect that much with this version. Maybe 1–2 new cars or one new weapon, that's it. I thought to myself "that's about the least they could do, so I won't expect anything more", hoping that Rockstar, yes Rockstar, would surprise me positively. Learned my lesson. Not even ONE. SINLGE. NEW. ITEM. Are you f*cking kidding me?

And it's not that it would take them months to implement it, I hear it all the time. "They should focus on new titles instead of wasting time with SP". It would take them one single day at most. Maybe even a few hours. It's not like they have to put the entire production on GTA VI on halt and drop everything they're working on to update SP. All the assets are already existing and functioning, they don't have to create anything new, they just have to put them into SP. What's the f*cking issue? They even went out of their way to patch every single glitch that would let you bring Online vehicles into SP and now even added scripts to all new items to immediately despawn if appearing in SP. They really, really don't want people to enjoy Online content outside of GTA Online. 

 

And the worst part is, they don't even acknowledge it. They ignore SP's existence completely. And the playerbase complaining about it? Doesn't exist either. It's just GTA Online this, GTA Online that. Every new statement or announcement regarding GTA is just "hey guys look at these new adversary modes, hey guys earn 3x RP and money on stunt races, hey guys 15% off of your next Legendary Motorsport purchase (but only Online lololol)". It's so disheartening to see them pumping new content into GTA Online almost daily while SP is just slowly dying right next to it. Imagine story mode having something like Benny's workshop, the ability to buy additional garages, an insurance system for your car, a casino, the same amount of cosmetic options etc. It would make story mode much more fun and interesting. Instead we still have it in the same state they left it in 2015 after the Ill Gotten Gains Part II update came out, when they decided to just sh*t on all story mode players and stopped updating it – because they realized people could just test out the new cars before buying them in GTA Online, and it would hurt their poor Shark Card sales.

 

Is it too much to ask to give SP some content too for a change? I'm not even asking for every single Online feature, just the stuff that would make sense would already cut it. Things like the CEO office, warehouses can stay in GTA Online for all I care, doesn't make much sense to have something like that in SP. 

 

I don't even know why they bothered to bring story mode to PS5 either honestly, they genuinely don't care about that game at all anymore. But hey, the one thing they do care about is the free 10 dollars from every fan that thought the "expanded"-ness would also bring anything to story mode. 

As it's becoming more and more apparent to me, I'm starting to strongly believe that E&E was just a plain pathetic excuse for R* to completely separate GTAO from GTAV once and for all so they can update their beloved cashcow separately without ever having to touch the base SP GTAV. It just goes on to show how much they put multiplayer over singleplayer because, sadly, the former gets them teh munehz.

 

IDK what their motivations could have been behind this, maybe they didn't want modders to able to get around the GTAO sharkcard paywalls and mod the Online-exclusive content into SP? Or they're probably just being plain greedy corporate bastards they are and wanted a new so-called "baseline" of GTAO on PS5 and XBOX Series X\S...

Edited March 18 by H-G

[Pedinhuh]

Wasn't there supposed to be some new additions to story mode with this E&E release? Where are they? 

 

So far the only new thing for single player is the updated graphics and higher framerate.

[Lock n' Stock]

1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

Wasn't there supposed to be some new additions to story mode with this E&E release? Where are they? 

 

So far the only new thing for single player is the updated graphics and higher framerate.

There's no Shark Card moneyz to be made from single-player, so they barely touched it. Hell, they didn't even bother adding Online vehicles and weapons in. That just shows how *much* they care.

Edited March 18 by Lock n' Stock

[Journey_95]

Basically no improvement at all, typical lazy Rockstar. Imagine paying money for this 

[Lock n' Stock]

What makes this version especially pathetic is how much better of a job modders did.

 

 

[blacklemon173]

10 hours ago, Lock n' Stock said:

There's no Shark Card moneyz to be made from single-player, so they barely touched it. Hell, they didn't even bother adding Online vehicles and weapons in. That just shows how *much* they care.

They didn't even bother fixing any of the "bigger" glitches that were already well known in the community either. (Planes randomly crashing near Michaels house, Monkey Business not starting etc.). I still ran into them in the "eNHaNcED" version.

[hiddenmask58]

12 hours ago, Lock n' Stock said:

What makes this version especially pathetic is how much better of a job modders did.

 

 

I'm sorry but comparing NVE with this version is very unfair. First of all, NVE is a paywalled mods that cost you around 10 bucks per month for the cheapest patron subscription and compare that to completely free GTAO standalone or full version of story mode which costs around 10-20 bucks during this time period. Second please don't bring people like Razed who made mods for greed, unlike most modders in 3D era and HD era which released their mods completely free out of love and passion for the franchise, because remember, NVE is used to be free before and easily available for everyone and he's saw opportunities to make it a paywall mods. IMO he's as much as greedy as R*/T2 right now.

[Acetaminophen]

Franklins car keeps disappearing in E&E 

[Americana]

Grand Theft Auto V looks like garbarge during daytime. This hasn't changed.

Edited March 20 by Americana

[DODI3OG]

8 hours ago, Americana said:

Grand Theft Auto V looks like garbarge during daytime. This hasn't changed.

For real. This is one of my gripes on GTA V's engine. From afar, the graphics look very realistic. But up close, especially with a large TV, the lighting and textures begin to look like puke compared to more modern Open-world titles.

 

I jsut hope GTA VI implements RTGI so we could have more pleasant daytime. It would even make night time much darker and realistic. The engine is too old, tbh. It needs a total rework. Overhauling it with new codes and features would just put it into conflict with older codes. It would overload the engine. I've had my fair share of modding back in the days. This is why most total overhaul mods would crash the game/program every now and then. There's just too many codes trying to override one another.

 

It's like writing a book throughout the years. Eventually, you will end up with more thought-out vocabulary/themes to write on it. Sometimes, it'd be better to either write off those new themes on a new book, instead of adjusting it to fit to the current flow of themes as it might just end up not fitting in.

[Lock n' Stock]

 

Nice.

[Kris194]

Yeah, nice, flashy game, now more than ever. Maybe they can impress some kids with this.

 

edit

 

Just noticed, that it's some 2d sh*t

Edited March 20 by Kris194

[Ondr4H]

I still almost after decade cannot understand purpose of ocean in this game. 

 

Seriously if they gave same love to wildlife in game as they gave into ocean and its habitants in GTA V it will be on par wildlife in Red dead redemption 2.

 

Its like somebody had dream of making its own ocean and they put this dream into gangster game where very small percentage of players actually are happy of this.

 

Imagine if this ocean will be in some scuba diving simulator game where gamers actually give a sh*t...

[Rvfae]

11 minutes ago, Ondr4H said:

I still almost after decade cannot understand purpose of ocean in this game. 

 

Crazy it took you so long, I realized at launch that it was just there as eye candy