Official GTAV Whine and Complain Thread

[Official General]

 

 

Cockstar and Take-Poo have really let themselves go.

They definitely made GTA V SP not so mod friendly, let alone player friendly.

 

 

I don't play online mostly because it doesn't interest me, but also because of all the horror stories. But I do disagree with you about mods for V. I absolutely LOVE what the mod community has done with GTA V. It really adds a lot to the SP.

 

 

Agreed.....

 

The modders for GTA V are pure gold and deserved to be hugely applauded. Their mods have made GTA V 10 times better than Rockstar themselves could hope for. So glad I have V on PC to enjoy these mods - or else I'd have only had it on my PS4 and by now that copy of V would have been collecting dust.

Edited April 19, 2018 by Official General

[Ash_735]

And remember, we as a community had to fight Rockstar and Take-Two when they tried to shut us down and push a clause stating we have no right to modify Single Player. The previous years have been a hell of a ride and yet Take-Two are STILL sending Private Investigators out to threaten modders.

[Darealbandicoot]

And remember, we as a community had to fight Rockstar and Take-Two when they tried to shut us down and push a clause stating we have no right to modify Single Player. The previous years have been a hell of a ride and yet Take-Two are STILL sending Private Investigators out to threaten modders.

If only they used some of that money and effort on something else besides harassing modders and milking GTA V with a premium edition. Like I dunno, renew GTA 4's music licence? Give us SOME sort of story dlc like online Heists offline or something like that.

[ChiroVette]

Agreed.....

 

The modders for GTA V are pure gold and deserved to be hugely applauded. Their mods have made GTA V 10 times better than Rockstar themselves could hope for. So glad I have V on PC to enjoy these mods - or else I'd have only had it on my PS4 and by now that copy of V would have been collecting dust.

You and I may NEVER agree on whether or not GTA V is a great game without mods, but I definitely share your opinion that mods add a lot to the game. As I am sure they did to IV as well, if I had liked the game and bought it on PC.

 

 

 

And remember, we as a community had to fight Rockstar and Take-Two when they tried to shut us down and push a clause stating we have no right to modify Single Player.

This was nothing short of corporate thuggery, and I won't lie, it was incredibly heartwarming and inspiring to see the bullies get their noses bloodied by PC players. I changed my review to completely blast the game on Steam, as did so many others. It was literally the first time I have ever seen gamers actually create an effective push back against that kind of feckless thuggery. In the past, all I have ever seen was whinging and ineffectual online petitions, and complaints on official websites and unofficial game forums that amounted to nothing. This may have been the first time in all my years of gaming that I have seen a community rally in advocacy of a group like we all did for the modders and actually win the day.

 

Like I said, f*cking inspiring!

 

 

 

The previous years have been a hell of a ride and yet Take-Two are STILL sending Private Investigators out to threaten modders.

I was not aware of this. I had thought that Take2 backed off and were leaving modders alone and not bothering gamers unless they brought the modded game into Online lobbies.

[Ash_735]

I was not aware of this. I had thought that Take2 backed off and were leaving modders alone and not bothering gamers unless they brought the modded game into Online lobbies.

I think you went quiet for a bit during this time, but someone in this community and a friend got a hold of a PS3 Devkit which once belonged to Rockstar North (it was a Q&A Unit), and the hard drive was erased but using long winded recovery, they were able to recover chunks and parts of an earlier build of Grand Theft Auto V which contained mission audio for the cut missions (Sharmoota Job, Mrs Bell, etc) as well as earlier versions of the Radio Stations, etc. Sadly one of these files leaked outside of this forum and gained Rockstar's attention, who got Take-Two involved and tracked down these two individuals to threaten them with court orders if anymore files get out, before them "reclaiming" the devkit they purchased. This was just a few weeks ago.

[ATP2555]

lol You honestly think that these devs on Rockstar's A-team, arguably the best devs in gaming today, simply and blindly screwed up this bad and there was no conscious choice on their part to make that weapon behave precisely as it does?

 

Of course. They just got someone to copy and paste the values for each explosion(except tear gas) because they were in a hurry. Why else do you think all the gangs only carry pistols? Because they copied and pasted everything.

[ChiroVette]

 

I was not aware of this. I had thought that Take2 backed off and were leaving modders alone and not bothering gamers unless they brought the modded game into Online lobbies.

I think you went quiet for a bit during this time, but someone in this community and a friend got a hold of a PS3 Devkit which once belonged to Rockstar North (it was a Q&A Unit), and the hard drive was erased but using long winded recovery, they were able to recover chunks and parts of an earlier build of Grand Theft Auto V which contained mission audio for the cut missions (Sharmoota Job, Mrs Bell, etc) as well as earlier versions of the Radio Stations, etc. Sadly one of these files leaked outside of this forum and gained Rockstar's attention, who got Take-Two involved and tracked down these two individuals to threaten them with court orders if anymore files get out, before them "reclaiming" the devkit they purchased. This was just a few weeks ago.

 

 

 

Wow, I had no idea about all of this! Of course, the obvious question is, was anyone able to get ahold of the files and add gameplay to the SP game? And if so, how would one get them? Seriously, if you or anyone who wants to cannot answer in public, feel free to send me an email or PM.

 

As to the other point, I wouldn't necessarily consider Rockstar or Take2 to be in the wrong for hunting down a person who had proprietary information because they cleverly restored lost or erased drive content. I think we can agree that, while a lot of Take2's actions with this game are pure thuggery and unscrupulous, freemium double-dealing, particularly where Online is concerned, they have the right to protect copyrighted material. That said, I am making a legal argument. As a gamer and longtime GTA customer, I find it disgraceful and scummy that they wouldn't release content like this, even adding a nominal charge to it, in order to enhance the SP experience. They are obviously trying to bully people to go online by not adding to SP. Its a distasteful tactic on their part, for sure.

 

 

 

lol You honestly think that these devs on Rockstar's A-team, arguably the best devs in gaming today, simply and blindly screwed up this bad and there was no conscious choice on their part to make that weapon behave precisely as it does?

 

Of course. They just got someone to copy and paste the values for each explosion(except tear gas) because they were in a hurry. Why else do you think all the gangs only carry pistols? Because they copied and pasted everything.

 

 

Okay, but my only point is that I actually would be inclined to agree with you that an overpowered shotgun like that is a little cringeworthy, AND your complaint is valid, as this is after all a complaint thread, right? But when you say things like "Cockstar," "Lazy coding," and lol "some moron" I am just saying that I disagree with those insults not with the viable point you are making about an issue you have with the game itself. I am not sure that cutting and pasting explosions is entirely accurate. I also thought the gangs carried more advanced weapons, at least in SP, but I may be wrong about that.

 

Look, clearly, Rockstar abandoned SP support and upgrades to focus on their Online cash cow, and nobody hates that more than me. And if you want to call them names, that's fine by me. I was just saying I don't agree with the insults, NOT that you shouldn't say them.

[ATP2555]

 

 

lol You honestly think that these devs on Rockstar's A-team, arguably the best devs in gaming today, simply and blindly screwed up this bad and there was no conscious choice on their part to make that weapon behave precisely as it does?

 

Of course. They just got someone to copy and paste the values for each explosion(except tear gas) because they were in a hurry. Why else do you think all the gangs only carry pistols? Because they copied and pasted everything.

 

 

Okay, but my only point is that I actually would be inclined to agree with you that an overpowered shotgun like that is a little cringeworthy, AND your complaint is valid, as this is after all a complaint thread, right? But when you say things like "Cockstar," "Lazy coding," and lol "some moron" I am just saying that I disagree with those insults not with the viable point you are making about an issue you have with the game itself. I am not sure that cutting and pasting explosions is entirely accurate. I also thought the gangs carried more advanced weapons, at least in SP, but I may be wrong about that.

 

Look, clearly, Rockstar abandoned SP support and upgrades to focus on their Online cash cow, and nobody hates that more than me. And if you want to call them names, that's fine by me. I was just saying I don't agree with the insults, NOT that you shouldn't say them.

 

So other people get to say "Cockstar" all they want, but not me? Or are you just holding me to a higher standard like when I made the complaint about the lack of doggy breeds?

Edited April 20, 2018 by ATP2555

[ChiroVette]

So other people get to say "Cockstar" all they want, but not me? Or are you just holding me to a higher standard like when I made the complaint about the lack of doggy breeds?

 

No, first off, yours was the first I saw the day I responded, not the first time I saw it ever. But I was also disagreeing with all the other disparaging statements you were saying about the devs. Which brings me to the second point, which is I never said you shouldn't say those things, I simply disagreed with you. Here, look at my last line in my previous post:

 

 

 

And if you want to call them names, that's fine by me. I was just saying I don't agree with the insults, NOT that you shouldn't say them.

 

You even included that part in your quote, by the way. So as I have told a great many people in this forum, please don't assume that because I disagree with something you say it means you shouldn't or can't say it. I am not a moderator here, and I am not the thought police. Say what you want. But when you post something in public forum, I reserve the right to respond with my own opinions.

[gtafaninwest]

 

 

 

Cockstar and Take-Poo have really let themselves go.

They definitely made GTA V SP not so mod friendly, let alone player friendly.

 

I don't play online mostly because it doesn't interest me, but also because of all the horror stories. But I do disagree with you about mods for V. I absolutely LOVE what the mod community has done with GTA V. It really adds a lot to the SP.

 

Agreed.....

 

The modders for GTA V are pure gold and deserved to be hugely applauded. Their mods have made GTA V 10 times better than Rockstar themselves could hope for. So glad I have V on PC to enjoy these mods - or else I'd have only had it on my PS4 and by now that copy of V would have been collecting dust.

Cockstar sure did make GTA V not so now friendly though, let alone player friendly. In so many missions I tried making trips short with the teleport, mission failed.

[ATP2555]

 

So other people get to say "Cockstar" all they want, but not me? Or are you just holding me to a higher standard like when I made the complaint about the lack of doggy breeds?

 

No, first off, yours was the first I saw the day I responded, not the first time I saw it ever. But I was also disagreeing with all the other disparaging statements you were saying about the devs. Which brings me to the second point, which is I never said you shouldn't say those things, I simply disagreed with you. Here, look at my last line in my previous post:

 

 

 

And if you want to call them names, that's fine by me. I was just saying I don't agree with the insults, NOT that you shouldn't say them.

 

You even included that part in your quote, by the way. So as I have told a great many people in this forum, please don't assume that because I disagree with something you say it means you shouldn't or can't say it. I am not a moderator here, and I am not the thought police. Say what you want. But when you post something in public forum, I reserve the right to respond with my own opinions.

 

All I'm doing is expressing my dislike about GTA V's coding(like the thread title implies). I may have called the coder(s) a moron(s), but I'm really just venting. You disagree with me, I understand that, but you don't have to shove that down my throat.

[ChiroVette]

All I'm doing is expressing my dislike about GTA V's coding(like the thread title implies). I may have called the coder(s) a moron(s), but I'm really just venting. You disagree with me, I understand that, but you don't have to shove that down my throat.

 

Well, first off, I wasn't shoving anything down your throat. This is a discussion forum. I was discussing the topic with you. Sometimes people agree when they discuss, sometimes they disagree. This was one of those times I was disagreeing with you.

 

Had I said something like, "YO LOSER!! Why don't you just STFU and stop trashing the game and Rockstar?!!" and added a few angry emoticons for good reason, then yeah, in that case, I would be shoving it down your throat. But saying I acknowledge your right to say anything you please while simply asserting my position on the issue is just having a civil discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.

[JimFitzgeraldBiker]

Graphics ain't good enough!

[Ash_735]

As to the other point, I wouldn't necessarily consider Rockstar or Take2 to be in the wrong for hunting down a person who had proprietary information because they cleverly restored lost or erased drive content. I think we can agree that, while a lot of Take2's actions with this game are pure thuggery and unscrupulous, freemium double-dealing, particularly where Online is concerned, they have the right to protect copyrighted material.

Whilst LEGALLY yes that's the point, they didn't have to use such harsh methods, tracking down and threatening to ruin peoples lives, etc, over a damn devkit, even other developers in the past have offered something nice in return to people who returned devkits, Take-Two though, nope, better threaten, possibly C&D under bullsh*t lies that they can't fight because we have more money and we will drag this case out until they're bankrupt!

 

Even better still, want to know the reason they claimed? They stated that if the information and files found were made public, IT COULD DAMAGE SALES OF GRAND THEFT AUTO V, a game that has been in the Top 10 sellers for five years, and game that has made insane amounts of profit, and yet us having beta files and seeing what was in the game would ruin all of that.

[AlexanderPierce]

Can someone explain to me why in the world Cockstar didn't make cheat codes saved on the mobile phone like GTA IV?

[Ash_735]

Can someone explain to me why in the world Cockstar didn't make cheat codes saved on the mobile phone like GTA IV?

Because people complained about GTA IV Cheats and how you can't use cheats when you're in a pinch, so Rockstar just reverted back to code method from older games.

[Copcaller]

No single player dlc

Don Percival or Madrozo would have made better villains

Should have included more heists instead of working for Weston and Haines.

Annoying peds who love to call the cops

Trevor should have had TLAD style gangwars

No female skins for families and ballas

[DirtCheap]

I always wondered why Michael let his wife off the hook for cheating. I think it makes no sense why he'd go so ballistic that he topples over the house his wife's lover was in, only to then forget about it the second the mission is over.

[Cheatz/Trickz]

I always wondered why Michael let his wife off the hook for cheating. I think it makes no sense why he'd go so ballistic that he topples over the house his wife's lover was in, only to then forget about it the second the mission is over.

It's called crappy writing.

[ChiroVette]

I always wondered why Michael let his wife off the hook for cheating. I think it makes no sense why he'd go so ballistic that he topples over the house his wife's lover was in, only to then forget about it the second the mission is over.

Several reasons. First, Michael knows that he is a criminal, sociopath who emotionally abandoned his family in favor of self-loathing and daytime drinking the moment they took their new identities and arrived in Los Santos. He made promises to his wife right before making the deal with the FIB about how great he would make their lives in California. Promises he never kept. He obviously had his own dalliances with strippers and hookers, though this is never really confirmed. Still, he certainly while does I play as him! lol

 

Also, Michael is usually a calculating, smart, pragmatic man, despite his sometimes lapsing into rage. He realizes that with Amanda taking the kids that if he goes ballistic, he would just further demonstrate what a hypocrite he is, and that behavior would have probably lost him his family. Since it is clear from the narrative that Michael's family, despite his criminality, is the most important thing in his life, I believe he sacrificed his need to rage about it in order to get Amanda and the kids back, and again, realizing that he was at least indirectly responsible for Amanda's loneliness and her seeking out another man's company.

 

Just shows how AWESOME Rockstar writers are.

 

 

Whilst LEGALLY yes that's the point, they didn't have to use such harsh methods, tracking down and threatening to ruin peoples lives, etc, over a damn devkit, even other developers in the past have offered something nice in return to people who returned devkits, Take-Two though, nope, better threaten, possibly C&D under bullsh*t lies that they can't fight because we have more money and we will drag this case out until they're bankrupt!

 

Even better still, want to know the reason they claimed? They stated that if the information and files found were made public, IT COULD DAMAGE SALES OF GRAND THEFT AUTO V, a game that has been in the Top 10 sellers for five years, and game that has made insane amounts of profit, and yet us having beta files and seeing what was in the game would ruin all of that.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you just said. I was not saying Rockstar was morally or ethically right. I was only talking about the law. What they are doing with V, as I have said many times, is nothing short of Freemium thuggery, and their declaration of war on modders due to minor copyright infractions is atrocious. You won't get any argument from me. Particularly since the ONLY reason that they backed off of some mod tools is because players crushed them in our reviews on Steam.

Edited April 25, 2018 by ChiroVette

[Ash_735]

Several reasons. First, Michael knows that he is a criminal, sociopath who emotionally abandoned his family in favor of self-loathing and daytime drinking the moment they took their new identities and arrived in Los Santos. He made promises to his wife right before making the deal with the FIB about how great he would make their lives in California. Promises he never kept. He obviously had his own dalliances with strippers and hookers, though this is never really confirmed. Still, he certainly while does I play as him! lol

 

Also, Michael is usually a calculating, smart, pragmatic man, despite his sometimes lapsing into rage. He realizes that with Amanda taking the kids that if he goes ballistic, he would just further demonstrate what a hypocrite he is, and that behavior would have probably lost him his family. Since it is clear from the narrative that Michael's family, despite his criminality, is the most important thing in his life, I believe he sacrificed his need to rage about it in order to get Amanda and the kids back, and again, realizing that he was at least indirectly responsible for Amanda's loneliness and her seeking out another man's company.

 

Just shows how AWESOME Rockstar writers are.

You should also point out that BOTH Michael and Amanda are "cheating" on each other on a regular basis, they both have profiles on the in-game dating/sex websites (ironically so does Trevor, to think if he just looked for Men he would've found Michael years ago) and it's implied that they're really in a sort of open relationship of sorts, they know they both f*ck around with other people but the rule is to never do it in their house, that's why Michael flips, he even shouts during the mission "NOT IN OUR BED!".

[ChiroVette]

You should also point out that BOTH Michael and Amanda are "cheating" on each other on a regular basis, they both have profiles on the in-game dating/sex websites (ironically so does Trevor, to think if he just looked for Men he would've found Michael years ago) and it's implied that they're really in a sort of open relationship of sorts, they know they both f*ck around with other people but the rule is to never do it in their house, that's why Michael flips, he even shouts during the mission "NOT IN OUR BED!".

Good point.

[Piggsy pls]

I always wondered why Michael let his wife off the hook for cheating. I think it makes no sense why he'd go so ballistic that he topples over the house his wife's lover was in, only to then forget about it the second the mission is over.

He doesn't care about her cheating, they both cheat on each other regularly, he's just mad apparently that it happened in his bed and with a guy he's paying to teach her tennis, not screw her behind his back.

 

One of the things he might say to Franklin during the mission is something like "If I have to go to a motel, so does she."

 

But yeah, looking back, his over the top reaction to it was weird.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Piggsy pls

[Rafae]

Cops are wayyyyy too OP wow Jesus f*ck

[ATP2555]

 

All I'm doing is expressing my dislike about GTA V's coding(like the thread title implies). I may have called the coder(s) a moron(s), but I'm really just venting. You disagree with me, I understand that, but you don't have to shove that down my throat.

 

Well, first off, I wasn't shoving anything down your throat. This is a discussion forum. I was discussing the topic with you. Sometimes people agree when they discuss, sometimes they disagree. This was one of those times I was disagreeing with you.

 

Had I said something like, "YO LOSER!! Why don't you just STFU and stop trashing the game and Rockstar?!!" and added a few angry emoticons for good reason, then yeah, in that case, I would be shoving it down your throat. But saying I acknowledge your right to say anything you please while simply asserting my position on the issue is just having a civil discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Well, I don't agree with your signature(GTA Snore: Crapisodes of Puberty City) because I like the GTA IV-era, though I find it very amusing, as with most derogatory nicknames for video games(Gaylo, Call of Dookie, and some others).

[Bratva Assassin]

Another problem I have with GTA V that I believe I’ve addressed before, but I’ll address again anyway, is that it seems as if it appeals more to dumb blonde, valley girl, or bimbo lovers whereas 3, Vice City, San Andreas, 4, TLAD, and TBOGT all seem to appeal more to brunette lovers such as myself. And for the most part that is. Additionally, lovers of the dumb blondes, valley girls, and bimbos have ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be offended by what I just said because A. I respect their opinion, and B. I say it all as a blond haired and blue eyed man.

[B Dawg]

Redheads master hair color race #Fact

Edited May 3, 2018 by B Dawg

[Darealbandicoot]

The fact that the FREE double action revolver(and more RDR2 weapons to come according to the newswire) are locked to GTA Online with NO WAY to get them in GTA V.

[Alexlecj]

Why is almost every character in this game behaving like complete douches?

 

That was already a trend in TBoGT, by the way.

[scorpioxdragon]

I really like this game but, the online focus kills it for me.

 

I would've paid for Story Mode DLC gladly.

 

Couple things I wish they would've changed though.

 

-interiors, it'd be nice to be able to re-enter at least all the buildings that had interiors during missions

-safehouse upgrades, there is very little to do at your safehouse, it's almost pointless having them.

-clothes, why is the Discount Store and Binco the same? also, the clothing options are pretty limited. like there's a whole lot of uninteresting clothing. a million glasses and shoes... why?

-dates, only Michael has them? and he can only go on dates with Amanda?... it's a shame there are so many NPC's but they're all just background.

-property missions, these are almost the dumbest things in the game. picking up a truck of alcohol and driving it to your club... really? defending your bar from 4-6 random ballers. why can't we have like... Franklin call Michael, saying he's getting attacked by ballers, that'd be more fun then running out and defending your bar. There should be a ton more of them too and cops should show up after you take them out.

-mini-games, it's a shame they built some pool tables and arcade games you can't do anything with. Also all of the vendors on Vespuci that you can't buy anything from.

-TV, Movies, etc, I wish there was some better shows and movies. It'd be nice if the shows updated every once in a while.

-more parking and garage space, yea it's not a car game but still, there are a lot of nice cars it'd be nice to upgrade and keep.

-weapons, there's too many different ones, and I only really like a few of them. Wish there were more interesting weapons, or at least iconic knockoffs. Ammunation should also show ALL your weapon skins when you enter.

 

I know this isn't supposed to be SIMS GTA Edition.... but why not? That's pretty much what it's set up for after they story is done. The only problem is, there is very little to do after you complete the story. And I started playing this game only a few months ago. Jesus, if I bought this when it came out, I would be super pissed at this point.

 

...At least I have State of Decay 2 to look forward to.