Mass Stabbing at Pennsylvania High School - 4/9/14

[Frank Brown]

Yeah, fine, forget about the guy who was supoosed to keep that from happening. That'd be grand, wouldn't it?

 

Disregard.

Edited April 9, 2014 by Vlynor

[lil weasel]

 

That cop IS payed to watch those monitors and make sure nothing happens. So if there's someone to point fingers at for 20 people getting stabbed then it's this guy.

 

No. The person you point the fingers at is the guy who stabbed twenty motherf*cking people.

 

No, No, No.

1. The employees who made the knives.

2. The Company who hired the people to make the knives.

3. The Retailer who sold the knives.

4. The person who bought the knives and made them available to the user.

5. The School security officer who allowed the knives in.

6. The School security officer who allowed the knives to be used before responding.

7. The School counselor who didn't warn anybody.

8. The School teacher who didn't notice anything to warn anybody about.

9. The Legislature for not mandating that every child be sent to a Mental Institution for 30 days each year for observation.

Lastly the poor kid who wasn't helped by society before it reached this point.

 

[Was there a warning label on the knives to alert the user that they were sharp and might pose a hazard if improperly used?]

Edited April 9, 2014 by lil weasel

[Mr. House]

You guys are so witty man. We should put you people into office and clearly you'd solve all of the endemic issues in society and the world because you have it all figured out. I don't know how this species survived without you all.

[gtamann123]

Yep and that can be extended to the lawmakers who didnt outlaw kitchen knives. And the kids parents who kept kitchen knives in the house. They are all at fault but the kid isnt. He is just an innocent victim.

 

Not surprising the kid is from a semi privileged middle class life. That seems to be a theme among nutcases who do this kind of stuff.

[lil weasel]

The idea is 'who to blame'. Should be why must we rely on 'society' to be micro-managed into 'Mass' belief that a law (paper) will protect us. That Government Police State is required to protect the individual, which our Supreme Court has said isn't so.

[gtamann123]

Please ignore the above troll.

 

And I checked on the guys facebook and it appears everything is hidden. So that won't be too good of a resource in trying to find a motive I guess.

 

He also makes a reference to TES IV in the part we can see. It will be kind of sickening if the media twists that to form some kind of motive.

 

He will be charged as an adult and hasn't been granted bail

Edited April 10, 2014 by gtamann123

[sivispacem]

Isn't this why we trade freedom for security these days? So that these sort of things wouldn't happen or at least be of smaller impact?

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

 

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

[gtamann123]

 

Isn't this why we trade freedom for security these days? So that these sort of things wouldn't happen or at least be of smaller impact?

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

 

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

 

That raises the question of why stuff like this happens so much more frequently in the US than the rest of the developed world? Is it just a culture of violence? Mental illness stigma? Extremely Competitive culture with enormous pressure on people (specifically white males) to succeed? I think it will be difficult to answer the questions of what the source of so much anti social behavior.

Edited April 10, 2014 by gtamann123

[_FRANKENSTEIN_]

Dafuq did I just read? People are getting really crazy in the other part of the world.

[Creed Bratton]

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

 

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

What do you expect from a country where every major political decision is made to benefit the corporations instead of the actual voters? You can't fix anything in the US until you fix the issue of legalized bribery. It's the root cause of all the incompetence.

[universetwisters]

I remember talking about it with some buddies of mine in shop class and one of them pulled up a picture of that Alex Hribal kid wearing a hospital gown. I then asked my economics teacher the following period what kind of last name "Hribal" was and he said it sounded like an eastern european one.

 

[Aljohnk]

Why is it the U.S gets so many attacks on school than other countries....

[ten-a-penny]

Why is it the U.S gets so many attacks on school than other countries....

come and see Libya. in my school, fighting is always happens. probably because its just the male nature (another reason why I hate being in this generation....whatever)

 

another in my old school. I was passing from my school to the store nearby. there's another school in front of the store. I saw a huge KNIFE FIGHT between an armless one and the armed one. at least the victim ran away and survived. I was gonna help but my young sister was with me.

funny as that happened in 2012. not like last year since problems had grown here in my country.

[gtamann123]

That kids eyes look freaky. Cant wait to see him get locked up for a long ass time. My like him are bad news even if he is just a kid.

Edited April 11, 2014 by gtamann123

[universetwisters]

That kids eyes look freaky. Cant wait to see him get locked up for a long ass time.

 

His eyes look creepy? Look at his nose.

 

[S5L3T0]

 

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

 

What do you expect from a country where every major political decision is made to benefit the corporations instead of the actual voters? You can't fix anything in the US until you fix the issue of legalized bribery. It's the root cause of all the incompetence.Don't you spit that hippie nonsense at us boy. We're American so of course my vote matters. If I don't agree ill just switch parties. f*ck you and your 'learn from mistakes' lifestyle

[ten-a-penny]

 

 

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

What do you expect from a country where every major political decision is made to benefit the corporations instead of the actual voters? You can't fix anything in the US until you fix the issue of legalized bribery. It's the root cause of all the incompetence.

Don't you spit that hippie nonsense at us boy. We're American so of course my vote matters. If I don't agree ill just switch parties. f*ck you and your 'learn from mistakes' lifestyle

 

without mistakes, we never learn.

if I didn't fall off the bike while learning how to ride it with no help, I'll never learn. if none of the problems we got happened, when it does happens, we'll never know what to do.

 

we need mistakes to happen in order to improve. something peeps like you had totally forgot about it.

Edited April 12, 2014 by ten-a-penny

[lil weasel]

Piffle, with mistakes some never learn.

I think it is more likely that News Reports are stifled in other countries, where as the freedom of the media in the U.S. have a need to print whatever they can find to sell 'papers'.

To Not scare tourists away is much more important in other countries by Not reporting the knife, machete, and razor attacks.

Edited April 12, 2014 by lil weasel

[S5L3T0]

 

 

 

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

 

What do you expect from a country where every major political decision is made to benefit the corporations instead of the actual voters? You can't fix anything in the US until you fix the issue of legalized bribery. It's the root cause of all the incompetence.

Don't you spit that hippie nonsense at us boy. We're American so of course my vote matters. If I don't agree ill just switch parties. f*ck you and your 'learn from mistakes' lifestyle

 

without mistakes, we never learn.

if I didn't fall off the bike while learning how to ride it with no help, I'll never learn. if none of the problems we got happened, when it does happens, we'll never know what to do.

 

we need mistakes to happen in order to improve. something peeps like you had totally forgot about it.

 

 

 

I dunno, it's a fundamental issue with US society IMO. The obvious culprit is the perpetrator but there's a good reason events like this are proportionally so much more common in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

Rather than blaming the first responders, pointing fingers at security and lamenting the lack of concealed carry in schools shouldn't we be discussing getting America's educational, social support and healthcare systems in order so we can mitigate the problem at the source?

 

What do you expect from a country where every major political decision is made to benefit the corporations instead of the actual voters? You can't fix anything in the US until you fix the issue of legalized bribery. It's the root cause of all the incompetence.

Don't you spit that hippie nonsense at us boy. We're American so of course my vote matters. If I don't agree ill just switch parties. f*ck you and your 'learn from mistakes' lifestyle

 

without mistakes, we never learn.

if I didn't fall off the bike while learning how to ride it with no help, I'll never learn. if none of the problems we got happened, when it does happens, we'll never know what to do.

 

we need mistakes to happen in order to improve. something peeps like you had totally forgot about it.

Dude the sarcasm in my post was so blatant. Cmon now.

[ten-a-penny]

do I even sound serious there?

[ArcadeWilliamz]

I think Americas are more violet than Australians.

[Panz]

I know a few people who live in this town. It's quite a shame.

 

I think part of the reason is that parents just aren't taking action when their children are a little bit "off". I know that might sound rude, but mental illness is a serious problem and a lot of parents either ignore it or give up getting help for their child too soon. Look at the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter. She tried to get her son treatment for years, but she ended up giving up, and he slowly spiraled out of control for months without her even batting an eyelash. Obviously it's frustrating and exhausting, but such strange behavior should never go ignored, no matter how used to it the parent may become.

 

Now, I don't know the background of the kid who committed the stabbing acts, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that there's something off with him. I don't think anyone is mentally right in the head if he/she commits an act like this. You can punish criminals and make them suffer, or you can punish them and offer them mental help. I think we focus just a bit too much on the prior, and I really hope this young kid gets some help while his mind is still impressionable.

[Clem Fandango]

All of this talk of mental health and very little talk of violent culture. The proto-school shooters were Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, and they weren't mentally unstable outcasts. They'd received treatment, including anger management. They were also consuming and producing a plethora of violent art, which raised no eye brows.

[DMC14]

 

 

Just going to add, please don't turn this into a gun control debate.

Right, because nobody thought to bring a gun, 'cause, guns ain't allowed in a school zone.

 

 

 

I'm pro-gun, but I also don't want to hear people using this as a stepping stone for their arguments.

 

"Oh, well, see, knives can kill people too, ban them! Nyeh!"

 

Not really an appropriate time for either side.

 

 

in russia knives have serial numbers like a gun. just saying.

I think Americas are more violet than Australians.

 

you cant judge someone because of the shade of there skin.

[Panz]

Murrysville? Violent culture? I don't think so.

 

You don't need to be an unstable outcast to have an internal mental illness. Of course culture can play a role, but I highly doubt it in this case based on what I know about the area and about the people involved (a friend of mine knew the kids affected and involved). It's more likely to be some other underlying factor.

 

Of course, we publicize everything these days, so something like this is always going to be blown up. Why the offenders are taking a liking to schools baffles me, and why it's so concentrated in the U.S. baffles me even more. Maybe it's the 8 hour school days with no breaks and 25 minute lunches.

Edited April 13, 2014 by Panz

[The Odyssey]

 

When someone is running towards you with a knife

 

 

Just kick him in the balls , that should do it

 

 

 

 

How hard can that be ?

 

what if they came from behind and you don't see them? or when they were hiding the knife?

only idiots will run into you with a knife exposed and screaming AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH ILL KILL U!!!!!!!!11111

You might not think there would be dozens of 14 year olds screaming for their lives that would alarm you?

[Raavi]

The kid will be tried as an adult and he faces (and will most likely get) life in prison. His life is over. Nobody will give this obviously troubled kid the mental health care he truly needs. Just look at the manner in which they dragged him out to court, absolutely despicable. If he's lucky he'll get some third-grade psychiatrist who will prescribe him a wash list of pills that are to be force fed by some sadistic prison guard. Don't get me wrong, there is no excusing the despicable acts he committed, but locking this kid up for the remainder of his natural life, or until he (tries to) commit suicide isn't going to change any of that.

 

There really needs to be more research done into the psyche of these people, what are the red flags, what sets them off, and how can we prevent this from happening in the future.

[ArcadeWilliamz]

 

 

 

Just going to add, please don't turn this into a gun control debate.

 

Right, because nobody thought to bring a gun, 'cause, guns ain't allowed in a school zone.

 

 

I'm pro-gun, but I also don't want to hear people using this as a stepping stone for their arguments.

 

"Oh, well, see, knives can kill people too, ban them! Nyeh!"

 

Not really an appropriate time for either side.

 

in russia knives have serial numbers like a gun. just saying.

I think Americas are more violet than Australians.

 

you cant judge someone because of the shade of there skin.

I'm not judging someone over shade of there skin.

[The Odyssey]

 

 

 

 

Just going to add, please don't turn this into a gun control debate.

Right, because nobody thought to bring a gun, 'cause, guns ain't allowed in a school zone.

 

I'm pro-gun, but I also don't want to hear people using this as a stepping stone for their arguments.

 

"Oh, well, see, knives can kill people too, ban them! Nyeh!"

 

Not really an appropriate time for either side.

in russia knives have serial numbers like a gun. just saying.

I think Americas are more violet than Australians.

you cant judge someone because of the shade of there skin.

I'm not judging someone over shade of there skin.

I think you missed the joke.

[universetwisters]

The kid will be tried as an adult and he faces (and will most likely get) life in prison. His life is over. Nobody will give this obviously troubled kid the mental health care he truly needs. Just look at the manner in which they dragged him out to court, absolutely despicable. If he's lucky he'll get some third-grade psychiatrist who will prescribe him a wash list of pills that are to be force fed by some sadistic prison guard. Don't get me wrong, there is no excusing the despicable acts he committed, but locking this kid up for the remainder of his natural life, or until he (tries to) commit suicide isn't going to change any of that.

 

There really needs to be more research done into the psyche of these people, what are the red flags, what sets them off, and how can we prevent this from happening in the future.

I have a feeling they'll give him parole in 40 years and he'll write a book on how sorry he was.