kansasdude Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I don't get why we do it? they (M, T, and F) don't get the score and have to give it back......so why do we do it than? Â would anyone know why? VVipeSide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeaconBosco Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Trevor thought they could simply go and take a secret weapon that belonged to the government, but Lester arrives just in time to tell them that by stealing the weapon they would be made prime targets by the US government which would locate and kill them in about a week... (actually, stealing from the federal reserves in the last heist would cause them just as much, if not more, of government attention, so yeah an other plot point.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Oso Blanco Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Sealing a super weapon and selling it to the Chinese =/= robbing the federal reserve, so I don't see how that would somehow cause more government attention. Yea, they would be pissed, but still. Anyway, I think they were more concerned with Merryweather to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I don't get why we do it? they (M, T, and F) don't get the score and have to give it back......so why do we do it than? Â would anyone know why? Â The whole Merryweather and FIB stuff was a load of boring bullsh*t. Let's not even bother to ask why it was there, we just know that it was a terrible excuse for a script. Rockstar's worst in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Skorpio Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Trevor thought they could simply go and take a secret weapon that belonged to the government, but Lester arrives just in time to tell them that by stealing the weapon they would be made prime targets by the US government which would locate and kill them in about a week... Â (actually, stealing from the federal reserves in the last heist would cause them just as much, if not more, of government attention, so yeah an other plot point.) Â The gold you steal in The Big Score is owned by the Chinese, they make a point of saying this in the Subtle approach. Â I assume that is why the US Government doesn't come after them like they would if they sold a super weapon TO the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSnails Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014   I don't get why we do it? they (M, T, and F) don't get the score and have to give it back......so why do we do it than?  would anyone know why? The whole Merryweather and FIB stuff was a load of boring bullsh*t. Let's not even bother to ask why it was there, we just know that it was a terrible excuse for a script. Rockstar's worst in the series. maybe if you payed attention and had half a brain you would understand the story instead of going on the forums and being like guyz dis no make it any sense it terrible agree with me u kno u want tooo Ai®a©ob®a and Bill Williamson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It was the reason the Chinese were pissed at Trevor, cuz he said he'd sell them the thing and then couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameralfa095 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Trevor was desperated to pull out a Heist he saw the oportunity and did it but it was to dangerous to keep it so Lester conivinced him to take it back. Actually it doesnt have to much point on the story more than getting Merryweather and Devin angrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lynx 23 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Â I don't get why we do it? they (M, T, and F) don't get the score and have to give it back......so why do we do it than? Â would anyone know why? Â The whole Merryweather and FIB stuff was a load of boring bullsh*t. Let's not even bother to ask why it was there, we just know that it was a terrible excuse for a script. Rockstar's worst in the series. Â Â Option C could've had more than just the Merryweather and FBI goons. Wei Chang's men, The Ballas, and The Lost could've also been involved in a shootout similar to Merryweather and the FIB fighting each other yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Williamson Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014  I paid more than enough attention to the story. My conclusion is that IT IS SH*T. I don't need to force people to agree with me either. Just looking at many posts on here since the game was released, it's safe to say many if not most agree that V's story is SH*T.  Keep telling yourself that you imbecile; this thread is not about the story in general so be quiet  OT: the Merryweather heist was done because Trevor was high strung when he just arrived in Los Santos and wasn t thinking straight (he didn t go through Lester like usual)+he wanted Michael back in the game...Lester finally found out and arrived just in time to tell them that they are f*cked if the weapon is shipped to the Chinese...it was a very cool mission, without a payout sure but the game gives you enough money to buy anything you want by that point (minus the properties) so it is not a big deal...  P.S. My English is not very good I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftTouch Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Â Â I paid more than enough attention to the story. My conclusion is that IT IS SH*T. I don't need to force people to agree with me either. Just looking at many posts on here since the game was released, it's safe to say many if not most agree that V's story is SH*T. Â Keep telling yourself that you imbecile; this thread is not about the story in general so be quiet Lets be honest. That part of the story was plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Trevor was desperated to pull out a Heist he saw the oportunity and did it but it was to dangerous to keep it so Lester conivinced him to take it back. Actually it doesnt have to much point on the story more than getting Merryweather and Devin angrier. That's not true. If the chinese hadn't been pissed at Trevor, they wouldn't have followed him to North Yankton. Michael would never have been kidnapped and the end of Bury the Hatchet would have played out alot differently. Edited April 10, 2014 by Cutter De Blanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 But the triads had nothing to do with Merryweather heist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Odyssey Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Idk, really. It was a lame excuse for a heist tbh. There are other missions in the game that feel more like heists than the Merryweather one. (Derailed, The Monkey Business, Threes Company) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 To be honest this is the worst part of the game. Two lame heists next to each other. .Ryan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousIsLegion Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Because it was a super weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 But the triads had nothing to do with Merryweather heist. Â Â It was the reason the Chinese were pissed at Trevor, cuz he said he'd sell them the thing and then couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Really? If you really mean that then you didn't understood the story at all. Chinese =/= Chinese. It's exactly the same case where people were saying that Ivan Bytchkov is the same Ivan the goddamned terrible mentioned by Gravelli. Â There are triads led by Wei Cheng Sr. who wanted to buy meth in LS. They came to Trevor, but since he welcomed them kind of cold, they decided to go to the competition (O'Neil brothers). Since Trevor killed most of them and blew up they lab, triads lost the suppliers and they were pissed at Trevor. The result is the kidnapping of Michael in Ludendorff and the late shootout in the meat processing plant. Â Chinese Lester was speaking about are government of China. Since they stole an experimental weapon from one global super power the best way to sell it is to try the other global super power. Since they stole it from US then only possible buyer is China. Â Is that really so hard to understand? Triads buying experimental weapons? Edited April 12, 2014 by Tycek Dr. Robotnik and Haha365 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) They didn't do a good job of explaining that. Yes, I assumed they were all the same group. They made it unnecessarily complicated with two completely different groups of chinese people both of whom Trevor manages to screw over in his business dealings with them. Doesn't help that those two situations occur fairly close to eachother in the story with little to no explanation of how Trevor still has chinese business contacts after pissing off the first group. Edited April 12, 2014 by Cutter De Blanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard1997jones Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It's annoying but I if we had millions midway through the game it would have made "the big one" less appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeaconBosco Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Really? If you really mean that then you didn't understood the story at all. Chinese =/= Chinese. It's exactly the same case where people were saying that Ivan Bytchkov is the same Ivan the goddamned terrible mentioned by Gravelli. Â There are triads led by Wei Cheng Sr. who wanted to buy meth in LS. They came to Trevor, but since he welcomed them kind of cold, they decided to go to the competition (O'Neil brothers). Since Trevor killed most of them and blew up they lab, triads lost the suppliers and they were pissed at Trevor. The result is the kidnapping of Michael in Ludendorff and the late shootout in the meat processing plant. Â Chinese Lester was speaking about are government of China. Since they stole an experimental weapon from one global super power the best way to sell it is to try the other global super power. Since they stole it from US then only possible buyer is China. Â Is that really so hard to understand? Triads buying experimental weapons? Â I agree with you but, Trevor explicitly states that after Frank kills Wei Chang that they won't have anyone to sell super weapons too... Then again, I don't think Trevor really is a reference when it comes to geo-politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyEsquire Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 As dumb as the story may be a common theme I noticed was "Obey and Survive" think about it... The fact that some just can't wrap their heads around the gta universe is why some people HATE star wars or star trek, sorry to mention those two. It's entertainment. Every GTA embellished a tugboat load (Never got to drive one in IV)... What keeps me entertained is how they try to tie it together, but I'm not emotional about any of it... The first time I meet someone in game SP wise I always try to axe 'em. Like the rapper in that one mission, I knew to plug him off rip, Now that I'm playing through again and not being as malicious, the game is still great, and I still find myself laughing at more things that I prolly should. Maybe I'm trite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemecide Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Actually I'm doing this mission for the 2nd time but instead of doing it offshore I'm blowing the boat up. Now I planted the bombs and sniped everyone I needed to and when Michael tells Franklin to blow it up I do it however once the ship is blown up I can't switch to Michael or trevor I just see Barring at the bottom of my screen all the time is this method of the heist screwed? I just wanted to play it from a different perspective and seems like it's bugged or glitched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haha365 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Really? If you really mean that then you didn't understood the story at all. Chinese =/= Chinese. It's exactly the same case where people were saying that Ivan Bytchkov is the same Ivan the goddamned terrible mentioned by Gravelli. Â There are triads led by Wei Cheng Sr. who wanted to buy meth in LS. They came to Trevor, but since he welcomed them kind of cold, they decided to go to the competition (O'Neil brothers). Since Trevor killed most of them and blew up they lab, triads lost the suppliers and they were pissed at Trevor. The result is the kidnapping of Michael in Ludendorff and the late shootout in the meat processing plant. Â Chinese Lester was speaking about are government of China. Since they stole an experimental weapon from one global super power the best way to sell it is to try the other global super power. Since they stole it from US then only possible buyer is China. Â Is that really so hard to understand? Triads buying experimental weapons? Bingo. This was made pretty clear to me, on the first playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicboh0413 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It was the reason the Chinese were pissed at Trevor, cuz he said he'd sell them the thing and then couldn't. No, It was cause trevor beat up Tao Cheng and killed their business partners then destroyed the business. Then later he killes the last of the O neal brothers. Easier description: CHINISE DID A DEAL WITH O NEAL BROTHERS THEN TREVOR RUINED IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc_404 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) It was the reason the Chinese were pissed at Trevor, cuz he said he'd sell them the thing and then couldn't. Actually, the chinese are pissed at Trevor because he's preventing them from making inroads into Blaine County, as per the phone call after Bury the hatchet. They want him to disband his enterprise and they'll give him M back... which he politely refused. Edited May 8, 2015 by thc_404 Haha365 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Someguy Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (actually, stealing from the federal reserves in the last heist would cause them just as much, if not more, of government attention, so yeah an other plot point.) Â No, stealing a WMD from the US Government is considerably worse than robbing a bank. Plus Lester tells Trevor that the device can be tracked, which is exactly how Trevor located it in the first place. By keeping it, he would just be inviting the full force of Merryweather and the US Government straight to his airstrip. Trevor isn't exactly a mastermind, he just does what he wants to do. StormEye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormEye Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (actually, stealing from the federal reserves in the last heist would cause them just as much, if not more, of government attention, so yeah an other plot point.) Â No, stealing a WMD from the US Government is considerably worse than robbing a bank. Plus Lester tells Trevor that the device can be tracked, which is exactly how Trevor located it in the first place. By keeping it, he would just be inviting the full force of Merryweather and the US Government straight to his airstrip. Trevor isn't exactly a mastermind, he just does what he wants to do. If it wasnt for his 'Rage' ability, he would had been dead a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fac316 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I loved that one of the choices resembles "Bomb da base" from III, but i get why they had you give it back, it would defeat the purpose of the game if we got rich that fast. I just hate how R* made T, M, and F like pussies about for half the game. Even when Niko was the IAA's lapdog it was for about a 1/6 of the missions, and UL Paper wasn't a dickhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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