Mafia II and Gta V

[Giles Flaggot 1]

I just ordered Mafia 2 Platinum version from Amazon a couple days ago. Should get it soon. I did a lot of YouTube research on it and it looks good. But something I noticed in reading all these forum replies is that I don't see anyone saying that they still play the game. Si I take it that after the campaign is over the free roam and replay value is low. Is that an accurate assessment ?. I'm big on free roam play so I was hoping it would be a game that would last for awhile. Does anyone who played it still go back to it for any reason?

I played it weekly whilst waiting for V, incredible game really, hoping they make a third.

The campaign is short, so short in fact that my save file got corrupted but I was able to complete it again in 2 days. I know people hate Mafia 2 but I really believe it's a classic.

 

My favorite thing to do is cruise around in one of those fine convertibles and robbing the gas and gun stores

[cartman_101]

The snow effect atmosphere and effect at the start of the game was one of the most remarkable, memorable experiences in my entire gaming life.

[woggleman]

Is this the game that makes you clean toilets for the sake of cleaning them?

[EM_JAY_86]

 

I just ordered Mafia 2 Platinum version from Amazon a couple days ago. Should get it soon. I did a lot of YouTube research on it and it looks good. But something I noticed in reading all these forum replies is that I don't see anyone saying that they still play the game. Si I take it that after the campaign is over the free roam and replay value is low. Is that an accurate assessment ?. I'm big on free roam play so I was hoping it would be a game that would last for awhile. Does anyone who played it still go back to it for any reason?

I played it weekly whilst waiting for V, incredible game really, hoping they make a third.

The campaign is short, so short in fact that my save file got corrupted but I was able to complete it again in 2 days. I know people hate Mafia 2 but I really believe it's a classic.

 

My favorite thing to do is cruise around in one of those fine convertibles and robbing the gas and gun stores

 

It's worth a play through but if you're a fan of mafia films/history, and are looking for a similar experience, you may be disappointed. It just doesn't feel like a Mafia game a lot of the time.

 

Plus, the suits you can buy look terrible in detail compared to other characters in cut scenes. At least on PS3 anyway.

 

Just my two cents.

Edited April 15, 2014 by EM_JAY_86

[OGLuke]

 

 

I just ordered Mafia 2 Platinum version from Amazon a couple days ago. Should get it soon. I did a lot of YouTube research on it and it looks good. But something I noticed in reading all these forum replies is that I don't see anyone saying that they still play the game. Si I take it that after the campaign is over the free roam and replay value is low. Is that an accurate assessment ?. I'm big on free roam play so I was hoping it would be a game that would last for awhile. Does anyone who played it still go back to it for any reason?

I played it weekly whilst waiting for V, incredible game really, hoping they make a third.

The campaign is short, so short in fact that my save file got corrupted but I was able to complete it again in 2 days. I know people hate Mafia 2 but I really believe it's a classic.

 

My favorite thing to do is cruise around in one of those fine convertibles and robbing the gas and gun stores

 

It's worth a play through but if you're a fan of mafia films/history, and are looking for a similar experience, you may be disappointed. It just doesn't feel like a Mafia game a lot of the time.

 

Plus, the suits you can buy look terrible in detail compared to other characters in cut scenes. At least on PS3 anyway.

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

yeah just didn't live up to mafia 1 also would've been more engaging had they used the german mob as an antagonist what with vito scaleri coming back from the war where in chigago the big one is done but now the germans are seizing control of the italian mob's territory but instead 2k went with that old boring wiseguys routine of theirs.

Edited April 16, 2014 by mr. libs

[EM_JAY_86]

 

 

 

I just ordered Mafia 2 Platinum version from Amazon a couple days ago. Should get it soon. I did a lot of YouTube research on it and it looks good. But something I noticed in reading all these forum replies is that I don't see anyone saying that they still play the game. Si I take it that after the campaign is over the free roam and replay value is low. Is that an accurate assessment ?. I'm big on free roam play so I was hoping it would be a game that would last for awhile. Does anyone who played it still go back to it for any reason?

I played it weekly whilst waiting for V, incredible game really, hoping they make a third.

The campaign is short, so short in fact that my save file got corrupted but I was able to complete it again in 2 days. I know people hate Mafia 2 but I really believe it's a classic.

 

My favorite thing to do is cruise around in one of those fine convertibles and robbing the gas and gun stores

 

It's worth a play through but if you're a fan of mafia films/history, and are looking for a similar experience, you may be disappointed. It just doesn't feel like a Mafia game a lot of the time.

 

Plus, the suits you can buy look terrible in detail compared to other characters in cut scenes. At least on PS3 anyway.

 

Just my two cents.

 

 

yeah just didn't live up to mafia 1 also would've been more engaging had they used the german mob as an antagonist what with vito scaleri coming back from the war where in chigago the big one is done but now the germans are seizing control of the italian mob's territory but instead 2k went with that old boring wiseguys routine of theirs.

 

IMO it needed more of a 'climbing the ladder' aspect to it. Vito should have had to join an actual crew of other soldiers, and feel that we were under pressure to make money (truck heists, extortion). Then we should have climbed up the ranks, maybe run a crew in our own area, strive to become a better earner than other mobsters. Not just do a few hits, then suddenly Vito gets to sit down and talk with a boss, that was bullsh*t. We got more of a romanticized crime drama, rather than a gritty, mafia style story IMHO.

Edited April 16, 2014 by EM_JAY_86

[ViceCityStalker]

I don`t think these two games should be in the same sentence ever.Mafia 1 was awesome back in the day when it was released so I had much anticipation for Mafia II which IMO turned out to be very bland and mediocre.

[EM_JAY_86]

I don`t think these two games should be in the same sentence ever.Mafia 1 was awesome back in the day when it was released so I had much anticipation for Mafia II which IMO turned out to be very bland and mediocre.

I agree!

[Zwenkwiel]

notice the graphics of gtav they are really similar to mafia2 too . i notices this right after finishing the prolog that this game looks alot different than gtta4 or Red dead redemption.looks like they used a new graphics engine made by 2k

 

it's amazing what google can do for you (though to be honest I knew most of this allready)

 

some tidbits for ya

 

Mafia 2:

 

Developer(s) 2K Czech
Massive Bear Studios (optimisation)^[1]
Feral Interactive (Mac OS X)^[2]

 

Engine Illusion Engine with PhysX

 

GTA 5:

 

Developer(s) Rockstar North

 

Engine RAGE, with Euphoria andBullet Physics

 

so yeah, there's that.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_II

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gta_5

 

also I agree with people saying mafia 2 was a letdown, they had a nice engine and a pretty cool city with different seasons and everything

but they just did so little with all the good they had, I remember just facepalming upon seeing the compilation about halfway trough the game, that has to be some of the worst storywriting in videogame history.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[carmisa]

Well, I am a couple hours into Mafia 2 and I am really enjoying it. The most criticism I am hearing about M 2 are from people who played the first installment. I have never played that game so I can't compare them, but if it is better than M 2, it must be a really good game. I love the driving in M 2. Might have to check out the first game after this.

[Zwenkwiel]

Well, I am a couple hours into Mafia 2 and I am really enjoying it. The most criticism I am hearing about M 2 are from people who played the first installment. I have never played that game so I can't compare them, but if it is better than M 2, it must be a really good game. I love the driving in M 2. Might have to check out the first game after this.

 

the first game was really good

still think it's one of the best stories told in any videogame

a word of warning though, it's going to feel really dated.

and I don't just mean the game engine or visuals, most of the cars are really really crappy.

but if you can see past all that it's still a great game I think.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Zwenkwiel

[Coral_City]

Never played the first one. The second was not good at all.

 

- No character development; Vito is a piece of cardboard throughout the game

- Missions that are basically "drive from point x to point z" - YAY, CHAPTER COMPLETE

- There were a lot missions that were intended for the main game, but cut and made into terrible DLC

- The DLC have a few cutscenes, and most of the missions are given through large text screens (LAME)

- All DLC missions have a time limit -- if you don't finish it within the time limit, you fail -- how anyone at 2K thought this was a good idea is beyond me

- The main game does not feature a freeroam, that's not a problem -- the problem is how big and empty the city is

- The story features a few notable moments, but it's a cliche story

- Numerous moments where you have everything then lose, then start again - it's annoying fast

[EM_JAY_86]

Never played the first one. The second was not good at all.

 

- No character development; Vito is a piece of cardboard throughout the game

- Missions that are basically "drive from point x to point z" - YAY, CHAPTER COMPLETE

- There were a lot missions that were intended for the main game, but cut and made into terrible DLC

- The DLC have a few cutscenes, and most of the missions are given through large text screens (LAME)

- All DLC missions have a time limit -- if you don't finish it within the time limit, you fail -- how anyone at 2K thought this was a good idea is beyond me

- The main game does not feature a freeroam, that's not a problem -- the problem is how big and empty the city is

- The story features a few notable moments, but it's a cliche story

- Numerous moments where you have everything then lose, then start again - it's annoying fast

Plus the ending is a f*ckin disaster IMO.

[carmisa]

Well it's clear to see that it's really a matter of personal preference, although I think most will agree that Mafia 2, and GTA5 shouldn't be compared. I am 50% thru Mafia 2 right now and I'm really enjoying the story even more than GTA5. And I also like the gameplay especially the driving more than I did in GTA5. But when the game story is done, I can see that the free roam will in no way compare to GTA5. Mafia 2 was still a great find for me personally though since I totally ignored it on it's release. If you haven't played it I would surely recommend the game. Now I am also going to play Godfather2 since I also ignored it on it's release.

[OGLuke]

Never played the first one. The second was not good at all.

 

- No character development; Vito is a piece of cardboard throughout the game

- Missions that are basically "drive from point x to point z" - YAY, CHAPTER COMPLETE

- There were a lot missions that were intended for the main game, but cut and made into terrible DLC

- The DLC have a few cutscenes, and most of the missions are given through large text screens (LAME)

- All DLC missions have a time limit -- if you don't finish it within the time limit, you fail -- how anyone at 2K thought this was a good idea is beyond me

- The main game does not feature a freeroam, that's not a problem -- the problem is how big and empty the city is

- The story features a few notable moments, but it's a cliche story

- Numerous moments where you have everything then lose, then start again - it's annoying fast

 

that irked me so bad I was once a part of the 2k forums and I can tell you now they caught hell from the members lotta cut content and dlc was some of the worst f*cking content ever created but those damn timed missions oh my boy it sucked donkey dick!

[daliakiller]

I dont know where tha f*ck you guys have seen this "GTA clone" genre or labor or wherever the f*ck you call it. I have NEVER seen it anywhere in my life, and if you think open world games are all "GTA clones", than games like Arkham City, Lego Island, Skate and even Forza Horizon are "GTA clones". Please, for who insist to say GTA CLONE: stop being ridiculous.

[INF3RN040]

i love the realism,physics,story on mafia 2

[VIZlO]

Mafia II was fun in its own right. I really liked the fuel, speedometer and speed limiter. One of the DLCs had a nice drifting score system. I didn't like how all the story's were kinda short and map was very small. Similar to GTAV, Mafia II also had mod shops offering engine and body upgrades along with custom plates.

[carmisa]

I am 65% through the story and don't have many complaints. The story is good, the graphics are good, The physics are good. But the police chases aren't very realistic and my biggest complaint is that they made Vito too pretty. It doesn't fit his character. It's hard for me to see him as a tough guy when He looks so boyish. Other than that I really enjoy the game and it's detailed content.

[BLOOD]

I dont know where tha f*ck you guys have seen this "GTA clone" genre or labor or wherever the f*ck you call it. I have NEVER seen it anywhere in my life, and if you think open world games are all "GTA clones", than games like Arkham City, Lego Island, Skate and even Forza Horizon are "GTA clones". Please, for who insist to say GTA CLONE: stop being ridiculous.

Here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_clone

 

and

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTA_clone

[daliakiller]

 

I dont know where tha f*ck you guys have seen this "GTA clone" genre or labor or wherever the f*ck you call it. I have NEVER seen it anywhere in my life, and if you think open world games are all "GTA clones", than games like Arkham City, Lego Island, Skate and even Forza Horizon are "GTA clones". Please, for who insist to say GTA CLONE: stop being ridiculous.

Here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_clone

 

and

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTA_clone

 

ive got to agree that you are somewhat right. not all of sandbox games are gta clones tho... i cant see Batman's Arkham series being a GTA clone, but they have open world gameplay aswell.. do you get my point? Lego Adventures, The Elder Scrolls series, Skate, a few Tony Hawk's games.. how in the world are they GTA clones? you are saying that every single one sandbox game that offers an open world gameplay with little to no restrictions are GTA games? if so, i am truly sorry, but no wikipedia article will change my mind. GTA CLONE isn't a correct term.

[Racecarlock]

The problem with mafia II being labeled a GTA clone is GTA clones are usually fun.

 

 

Is this the game that makes you clean toilets for the sake of cleaning them?

Yep. I guess it's supposed to make the prison feel threatening or something. To me, it just made the thing feel more boring and tedious. Yes, somehow, they made walking through linear hallways with fights that make a boxing game's combo system feel varied more tedious. You weren't hiding bombs, you weren't searching for tools to break out, you just had to clean toilets because it was your turn. This was the point where mafia II became one of the worst linear-with-an-open-world games I have ever played.

 

And then it was followed by cigarette tycoon. Or should I say the worst example of a color matching game since... no, I can't think of any. Puzzle bobble was a great color matching game. So was uo poko, a japanese arcade game. For some absurd reason, someone thought that being told which color of cigarettes to pick, walking to a box, and then pressing X to pick the color was somehow engaging. So I guess we can also add worst puzzle game to mafia II's failings on my list.

 

Then, and then. Oh if only it had ended. Alas, no. f*ck no, you think you're done? Of course not. There's a chapter where you transport this dead body in the trunk, and of course your best friend and your apparent superior in the mafia organization are both drunk. Because they're both drunk, the game just DECIDES, out of nowhere, that you should lose the ability to change radio stations. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse. I honest to god felt like a mom taking her kids home from soccer practice. I had to commit suicide in the game just to keep myself from going completely insane.

 

AND THEN! Piece of ass tedious f*ck game! The next level, joe calls you. He's too drunk to drive home. So, of course, you have to pick him up from the bar and drive him home. For what reason?! None. They just felt like it. Also the bartender gets shot by accident, but there's no police chase. Nothing to keep your adrenaline up. You just drive him home with no conflicting obstacles in your way. SOUND FUN YET?!

 

There's also all the levels before then. One has you life a crate into a truck. You can lift more if you want. Aren't we pushing the envelope of gameplay possibilities here? And no, you can't choose to not lift the one crate. Chapter 3. You just have to. Mafia II loves busy work.

 

There's also the gas stamp chapter, where you first have that stealth level, which is alright. What do you do next? Tediously drive around to every gas station in the city and sell those stamps. There is a time limit, but it's mostly just there. You don't want to go too fast anyways, don't want to violate any speeding laws in a f*ckin' video game, do we? You just drive to a station, press X, repeat until done.

 

This is why I am glad GTA V never took any advice from this game. There was that one yoga level, but f*ck it, one yoga level. Even then, you got to take drugs and fly over a rainbow city while trippy music plays in the background. There was the FIB raid, but I can't get mad there either. One, I chose the plan. Two, while I am mopping, I am also hiding bombs in the toilets and lockers as part of a heist scheme, so it's actually tense and exciting rather than busywork. I guess friend request is kind of boring too, all you do is deal with some popups and put a thing in a thing and call someone. Even then, you get to kill someone. Unlike in mafia II where the tedious busywork doesn't earn you jack sh*t. Besides which, GTA V has planes and base jumping and fun vehicles and a giant map and a fun beach and fairground rides. Mafia II has tedious driving across the city with no side activities whatsoever unless you count car customization.

[woggleman]

The problem with mafia II being labeled a GTA clone is GTA clones are usually fun.

 

 

Is this the game that makes you clean toilets for the sake of cleaning them?

Yep. I guess it's supposed to make the prison feel threatening or something. To me, it just made the thing feel more boring and tedious. Yes, somehow, they made walking through linear hallways with fights that make a boxing game's combo system feel varied more tedious. You weren't hiding bombs, you weren't searching for tools to break out, you just had to clean toilets because it was your turn. This was the point where mafia II became one of the worst linear-with-an-open-world games I have ever played.

 

And then it was followed by cigarette tycoon. Or should I say the worst example of a color matching game since... no, I can't think of any. Puzzle bobble was a great color matching game. So was uo poko, a japanese arcade game. For some absurd reason, someone thought that being told which color of cigarettes to pick, walking to a box, and then pressing X to pick the color was somehow engaging. So I guess we can also add worst puzzle game to mafia II's failings on my list.

 

Then, and then. Oh if only it had ended. Alas, no. f*ck no, you think you're done? Of course not. There's a chapter where you transport this dead body in the trunk, and of course your best friend and your apparent superior in the mafia organization are both drunk. Because they're both drunk, the game just DECIDES, out of nowhere, that you should lose the ability to change radio stations. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse. I honest to god felt like a mom taking her kids home from soccer practice. I had to commit suicide in the game just to keep myself from going completely insane.

 

AND THEN! Piece of ass tedious f*ck game! The next level, joe calls you. He's too drunk to drive home. So, of course, you have to pick him up from the bar and drive him home. For what reason?! None. They just felt like it. Also the bartender gets shot by accident, but there's no police chase. Nothing to keep your adrenaline up. You just drive him home with no conflicting obstacles in your way. SOUND FUN YET?!

 

There's also all the levels before then. One has you life a crate into a truck. You can lift more if you want. Aren't we pushing the envelope of gameplay possibilities here? And no, you can't choose to not lift the one crate. Chapter 3. You just have to. Mafia II loves busy work.

 

There's also the gas stamp chapter, where you first have that stealth level, which is alright. What do you do next? Tediously drive around to every gas station in the city and sell those stamps. There is a time limit, but it's mostly just there. You don't want to go too fast anyways, don't want to violate any speeding laws in a f*ckin' video game, do we? You just drive to a station, press X, repeat until done.

 

This is why I am glad GTA V never took any advice from this game. There was that one yoga level, but f*ck it, one yoga level. Even then, you got to take drugs and fly over a rainbow city while trippy music plays in the background. There was the FIB raid, but I can't get mad there either. One, I chose the plan. Two, while I am mopping, I am also hiding bombs in the toilets and lockers as part of a heist scheme, so it's actually tense and exciting rather than busywork. I guess friend request is kind of boring too, all you do is deal with some popups and put a thing in a thing and call someone. Even then, you get to kill someone. Unlike in mafia II where the tedious busywork doesn't earn you jack sh*t. Besides which, GTA V has planes and base jumping and fun vehicles and a giant map and a fun beach and fairground rides. Mafia II has tedious driving across the city with no side activities whatsoever unless you count car customization.

So this is the game people say is so much better than GTA V? I understand people who think IV is better but cleaning toilets like this is better than yoga in one missions that can easily be ignored afterwards. I guess we are stupid casuals who just like explosions but fun gameplay sounds better than this.

[carmisa]

I just finished the Mafia 2 story last night.I think the game was well done. I see a lot of criticism in this thread about the game, but it is all a matter of taste. I could make valid negative statements about any game there is but it's only my opinion. and I disagree with a lot of the complaints written here. A lot of people hate the ending, but I like it because I think it opens the door for the next Mafia installment. Remember, you didn't see Joe actually get killed. He merely gets into the car, and his death is only implied. What a great opening surprise for Mafia 3. Now I am going to start free roam play and get the rest of the accomplishments. Sorry all you haters. I like this game and would buy the next one. Just remember that I can easily bash your game as much as you bash Mafia 2. Peace out.

[Racecarlock]

I just finished the Mafia 2 story last night.I think the game was well done. I see a lot of criticism in this thread about the game, but it is all a matter of taste. I could make valid negative statements about any game there is but it's only my opinion. and I disagree with a lot of the complaints written here. A lot of people hate the ending, but I like it because I think it opens the door for the next Mafia installment. Remember, you didn't see Joe actually get killed. He merely gets into the car, and his death is only implied. What a great opening surprise for Mafia 3. Now I am going to start free roam play and get the rest of the accomplishments. Sorry all you haters. I like this game and would buy the next one. Just remember that I can easily bash your game as much as you bash Mafia 2. Peace out.

Well of course it's my opinion. Never said otherwise. And yes, you can criticise any game. I never said you couldn't. Different tastes? I agree. I don't think there's a problem here, really.